UFC and Royce Gracie Negotiating the Legend's Return at UFC Rio
by Nate Wilcox on Mar 13, 2011 12:05 PM EDT
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The UFC was originally founded by Rorion Gracie to showcase his family's jiu jitsu style. Rorion's younger brother Royce was the family's handpicked champion and he did not disappoint, winning the tournaments at UFC 1, 2, and 4 and compiling an overall UFC record of 11-1-1 in his initial run with his only loss coming by way of forfeit.
Ever since the UFC announced it would return to Rio de Janeiro in August of this year, speculation has been rife that the 45 year old Royce may return to the Octagon for the first time since his loss to Matt Hughes at UFC 60 in 2006.
Now MMA Junkie talks to Royce's manager and puts some meat on those rumor bones:
Three-time UFC tournament champion and UFC Hall of Famer Royce Gracie (14-3-3 MMA, 11-1-2 UFC) is in continuing negotiations with the promotion to appear in a retirement fight at the Brazilian event, which is expected to take place Aug. 27 at HSBC Arena in Rio de Janeiro.
Mike Kogan, the U.S. representative for the Japan-based Fighting and Entertainment Group (FEG) and Gracie's longtime manager, today informed MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) of the news.
Although negotiations are far from over, Kogan said he and Gracie are talking directly with UFC president Dana White and UFC executive Lorenzo Fertitta about the prospect of bringing the 44-year-old MMA legend back into the octagon one last name against a specific - but undisclosed - opponent.
It would be fitting for the legendary Gracie to have his retirement bout in Rio in the promotion he did as much as any fighter to build. The opponent should be picked carefully, my first choice would be a rubber match against Gracie's rival Kazushi Sakuraba.
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"back into the octagon one last name against a specific - but undisclosed - opponent."
One last “time” you mean?
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by ANance on Mar 13, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just put him against maia or phalhares! NO STRIKIER!!!
I hope they put him against a legend in the sport around his age, that has to get the fight to the ground and use only a bjj game against his opponent.Plus Royce is the guy to watch that fight against in his hometown against a yound bjj phenom or a fighter with a name in the sport would be exciting to see. Hopefully they do not put him aginst a straight wrestler or striker? Hope to see him back and see his Bjj because we know were watching Royce to have a fun match, not try to compete for a title at his age. Lets hope they find a great match for him?
It don't matter where you came from, its where your going!!!
by richmma4200 on Mar 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Even a one dimensional bjj fighter at this point could beat Royce. His bjj was great but everything has evolved since. He may have great insticts but Maia and Palhares are two of the best bjj fighters at 185
by tremblay6 on Mar 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like the idea of Maia... not so much Saku
That makes sense on a lot of levels. Maia is Mr. BJJ right now in MMA, and the action would be fun. Neither of them can strike well. Respect and honor would be paramount. The symbolism of “passing the torch” would be meaningful, especially in Rio.
While I have always wanted to see Saku really compete in the UFC, his time is was up years ago. His recent fights have made me extremely sad, in some ways moreso than Ken Shamrock’s insistence on fighting.
I would only go with Saku if it were his retirement match as well.
Here’s another name… Dan Severn. They have some history…
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Unfortunately, there's no way to get Royne and Severn in the same weight class.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I want Royce against Militich or Shamrock (Frank)
you might as well get something out of them w/ the new acquisition.
Ah well…..one can dream…?
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I like that idea.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Frank would body Royce
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i don't know what bodying someone means
and I’m not trying to be dickish either.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
You couldn't just make an educated guess?
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I could guess bully or control the body via strength....
but I could also be very,very wrong and do not want to piss in anyones cheerios.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
You are correct sir.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
but Frank ain't got no knees
therefore no leverage to Push/Pull anyone around.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Royce is no better at this point.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
would this make it anti-epic
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Something along the lines of
“Put in a body bag”.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=body
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
This
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Cool...see.
I asked cause I had no f’n clue. I have been learned. Thanks and such.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Gracie/Miletich could be a fun fight. Or they could drag Ken’s broke ass out of whatever hole he’s living in for their Edgar/Maynard style rubber match. ZUFFA wouldn’t even have to pay him cause he owes them so much money.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Ony one other than Ken
for fucks sake I’d take Kimo over Ken….
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
ANY....fml
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Severn?
There’s plenty of guys that have history with Royce and/or his family, just throwing suggestions out there. Severn was one of Royce’s toughest UFC tests and Royce left before Severn could get a rematch. Could be fun.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
add that to the list.....
Militich, Frank, Saku, Severn…..what are the odds of getting big Don Frye and his epic stache?
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Frye won't fight for Zuffa and has no history with Gracie, plus he's HW.
Of course, I guess that would disqualify Ken too…and Severn…and Kimo…dammit.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Royce or Renzo vs. Wallid would be good too.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
it seems that Frank
is really persona non grata in Zuffaland. Miletich had some sort of sore spot with them too. they might get over it to make a match happen, but who knows?
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Is tgere any way they screw this up? I mean make UFC Rio anything less than a massive cultural event for Brazil?
by dribblebib on Mar 13, 2011 11:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
(14-3-3 MMA, 11-1-2 UFC)
These records are so messed up. The MMA one is counting the no contest against Saku as a win for Royce, and the UFC one counts the Harold Howard forfeit as a draw I guess? But it’s a loss in his overall MMA record. What the hell.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
Let’s hope they do better than offering him as a sacrificial lamb to some young stud again.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Royce/Saku III makes the most sense and would be epic
Whether or not they can get Sakuraba is the big question though. It’s not like he has a whole lot of options for fights right now though.
by simpsycho on Mar 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
yes, i could see this
wish list just grew
Militich
Frank
Saku
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to see the fight
but I have fear in my heart every time I see Saku has a fight coming up.
I don't really want to see Royce fighting modern MMA
do we really want to see an old legend in Royce: #1 out of the gi and #2 get stomped.
If he is going to take part I’d rather the UFC take 10 minutes and do something like the Rickson/Rolyer demonstration at Pride.
No thanks.
Demos do nothing for me. I don’t want to see Royce get stomped…but that’s why you match him up with someone from the old days and not a current champion (a la the Hughes massacre).
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
so you really want to see something like the Coleman/Couture match up?
let him do the demo, keep it off the PPV broadcast, let it be for the Brazilians in the house and maybe do a tribute video or something
If it's not main-eventing...yeah.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Royce against Frank Shamrock
I mean c’mon, this could also be Frank’s swansong right?
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by Nate Wilcox on Mar 13, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Royce is listed at MW.
Frank has fought at MW, although he is supposed to be retired now.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
He's always been better suited for 170 also
Don’t know if he could still make the weight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Has he ever fought at 170?
He fought Hughes at 175.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a good point.
And I doubt Royce is still trim enough to make 170.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
with the weight restrictions who makes sense?
Saku would be my best guess but I’m ignorant to a lot of Royces’ fight histories.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
And too good with his hands. I dont want to see an over the top farce but I also don’t want to see the biggest legand in the UFC get his face and ribs pummled. A bunch of thought needs to go in to this match up.
Root for the home team jack ass
If Royce can't beat Frank
Then he can’t beat anyone. Either he fights a fellow legend, or just does a grappling match.
Frank & Miletich make as much sense as any. Who else would you propose?
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Wallid in fighting shape?
He is the Gracie Killer.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not
But he’s not a big guy, I bet he weights close to the 170 limit. Or they could make a catch weight at 180.
Fair enough
that would be a good fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i get what you mean
but it’s not a BJJ exhibition. it’s an MMA match. having a straight grappling rules match isn’t something UFC would want.
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
They could if they want to.
There’s really nothing stopping them from having sub grappling/ kickboxing matches whenever they want to.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Please, make this happen
My favorite fighter of all time.
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What’s Shannon Ritch up to in August?
Seriously though, Wallid Ismail might be the best idea.
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Wallid said he would only rematch Royce after beating him in BJJ for 100 thousand dollars
I think the UFC can pay him that.
Interesting, I wasn’t aware that he said that.
I selfishly want to see Ismail on UFC TV going on the type of rant that only Ismail can do.
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by RagingNoodles on Mar 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
unfortunately he no longer does those types of rants though
they had a special on him on SporTV Sensei and he apologized for how he acted during those days, and that he grew a lot since then.
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As much as I appreciate what’s been done in mma by the Gracie family I have no desire to see Royce fight again. He’s old and as Hughes demonstrated he’s no longer relevant. Do a tribute to the family or whatever but there are many more brazilian fighters who would be better fits for the card and a relevant fight.
by tremblay6 on Mar 13, 2011 11:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's a retirement fight
And unlike a lot of fighters who say they’ll retire, I think the UFC in Brazil would serve as a fitting end of a legendary fighting career that would satisfy Royce – providing he won of course.
well
Hughes was the champion though, and many people got outclassed in fights and were able to keep on fighting for the UFC. But since Royce was one dimensional and older people are writing him off, I think he can still handle a small chunk of fighters out there and be competitive.
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
Look how Hughes seems at this point though, he’s contemplated retirement and he easilt beat Royce, any modern day fighter could beat Royce easily if you ask me. There was an article on here I believe about how easily someone like Brian Foster could beat Royce
by tremblay6 on Mar 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ken Shamrock
In a perfect world Ken vs Royce would be an epic event. Too bad Ken has burnt every bridge he has ever crossed and also been exposed a punching bag these days.
Root for the home team jack ass
Watching Ken in any context is not pleasant viewing
Even if he PROMISED to retire, I’d be dubious. Plus he’s such an inherently bitter dude nowadays.
I agree… no strikers… no young lions… this is all about symbolism.
I sort of thought they’d do more symbolic stuff at UFC 100. Surprised there weren’t more rituals. Guess that’s not so much an American MMA thing.
Slightly off topic but someone mentioned demo… I think it would be kind of cool if in between matches they had demos of various fighting styles to educate the masses. “here’s what pure Muay Thai looks like…” vs. “here’s Dutch kickboxing” vs.. "this is Sambo…vs “here’s Judo” etc.
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royce vs renzo
tell me that wouldnt be interesting
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Only in a grappling match
They wouldn’t want to fight eachother.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
of course they wouldnt
now imagine if they did
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I imagine
Renzo taking Royce down and dominating from top.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Renzo via infectious enthusiasm
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by Damon O. on Mar 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sakuraba is still 1-0 against Royce as far as I'm concerned
Popping for roids at a level something like 20 times higher then Sean Sherk makes their last match a no contest in my eyes. Not to mention the ‘fight’ was a non-event as well.
How about Bas Rutten!
He already started his comeback against “Lights” Leary on FX.
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Bas would kill Royce
and he fights 3 weight classes above,
This is not UFC 1, people.
Bas' arm is completely fucked right now
And his knees are gone. No cartilage.
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What about Frank Trigg?
I think Royce could take him.
Well
Trigg can always get choked, but I think he’d beat the hell out of Royce too.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Its either got to be Severn or Sakuraba.
However Severn would kill Royce so I think Sakuraba is the best choice.
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Royce vs Minowaman!
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by Orcus on Mar 13, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
For the Super Hluck belt!
That would be awesome.
Minowa would beat Royce up too.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
As much as I like that suggestion, Royce would have to blow up like a Thanksgiving day balloon to be in the same weight class as Toney.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
being listed on the active UFC fighter list (not just HOF list) just adds fuel to all the speculations.
Here’s his current UFC profile pics:
I like it...
if it’s against another legend. Every fight isn’t about determining a champion or who is, or isn’t, relevant. There have been several guys mentioned above that I could see as good opponents for Royce.
No Judo
Why was there no judo fighters back in the old ufc’s considering the history between the two martial arts
There were lots of judo guys that got handled by the gracies.
Blue belts tap out judo black belts on the ground.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 13, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not going to complety disagree
but a top flight Olympic Judoka could have possibly beaten a Gracie, in a format and tournament they intended to show the superiority of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Imagine if Yoshida choking out Royce had happened at UFC 1 and how perception of BJJ would be different in the US.
The UFC brought in Christophe Leinenger, an olympic level Judoka. He got mauled by a roided up Ken Shamrock.
Karo was doing pretty well before he... well, you know the rest
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The only fight we want to see is
Royce Gracie vs. Ken Shamrock
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I want to see Gracie stay retired!! The man is too old to compete at this level and this looks like a publicity stunt to try and drum up more interest for this particular show in Rio.
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I'm wagering
that it’s more of a nod to the origin of the UFC, i.e., a way to broadcast Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to the masses. It’s not like anybody at Zuffa wants or needs Royce to fight again, but even Dana White knows when some pomp and circumstance must be included with his profit margin.
This is a horrible idea.
See Dynamite!! USA
by Rob Young on Mar 13, 2011 3:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If this isn't Hughes/Gracie 2
then I have no idea what it will be.
Not that I want it to be this. Hughes, even in his current aged state, is still enough of a beast to chase Gracie back out of the UFC again.
I don’t see Dana White or Joe Silva letting a powerful rookie take Royce apart either, so it has to be someone with either a history with the Gracies’ or a legend in particular. But who?
I thought as hard as I could and then decided I’d be better off getting a Hamm’s then trying to think up who is going to trounce Royce.
Good suggestions so far
- Miletich
- Frank Shammy
- Wallid Ismail (who beat Royce in straight BJJ)
- Saku rubber match
All good options IMO
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 13, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They're my favorites too
Henrique was saying that Wallid Ismail/ Royce would be a huge draw in Brazil, but I would definitely love seeing Frank or Pat in there as well. Miletich is seriously underrated IMO, top 5 all time welterweight if you ask me.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 14, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone interested in Almeida or Serra?
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They would both pulverize Royce
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 14, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not convinced we need to give Royce a win here. That’s crap and takes away the competition in MMA. I’d rather see Royce lose than see him twist Peyton Manning into a pretzel just because it’s a winnable fight.
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I think they want to give him a fight he can win
That being said I don’t know there are many.
Wallid Ismail as far as I know is not the same crazy eyed guy he was back in pride. I saw an interview with him lately where he looks very mellow and business oriented since he is doing Jungle Fights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_qvKaY5Ry0
What are the chances they can get Saku in the UFC now a days?
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