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Bad Boy Presents Bloody Elbow Radio - Episode 6: UFC 127 Review

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Join Matt Bishop, Jonathan Snowden and Forrest Lynn starting at approximately 1 a.m. ET/10 p.m. PT as they review "UFC 127: Penn vs. Fitch," which is headlined by a welterweight fight between former two-division champion B.J. Penn and former No. 1 welterweight contender Jon Fitch. Also on the card, "The Ultimate Fighter 3" winner Michael Bisping battled Jorge Rivera and in lightweight action, George Sotiropoulos battled Dennis Siver.

The trio will take a look at all the fights that make air and take a look at what's next for the winners and loser of the show. We'll also take your calls, e-mails, tweets and comments during the show.

Don't forget, Bloody Elbow Radio is sponsored by Bad Boy. Bad Boy, the 2010 World MMA Awards winner for "Best Technical Clothing Brand," can be found at BadBoyMMA.com and don't forget to check out the newly-released Mauricio Rua UFC 128 walkout T-shirt. Follow them on Twitter and Facebook and tell them Bloody Elbow sent you.

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I have some real serious Michael Bisping rage right now. If we were on the air now, I’d have to restrain myself from dropping F-bombs every other word.

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 27, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

I may have to call in just to trumpet Bisping...

I love him SO much.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I publicly picked Bisping by TKO R2.

I’d love to call in and talk with you about how underrated he is and how public perception in the US makes people forget he’s a great fighter. But your pick against Gustafsson was so terrible, I can’t help but feel like your Bisping mancrush is a fluke. (=

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by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha. I don’t know why. I don’t really think too highly of Gustafsson to begin with and thought Te-Huna could overwhelm him early. He almost did!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You're definitely right that he almost did.

I saw it going sort of how it did… just taking a bit longer for Gustafsson to catch him.

by Brent Ducharme on Feb 27, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he was even close to dominating him.

That’s what the camp gameplanned for. Taking advantage of how Te Huna leaves space on the ground. That’s exactly what Gustafsson capitalized on. Then he used that to get up, stay up in the clinch, and then Alex took over.

Very excited about Gustafsson’s prospects. He can come back from a weakish start and win a fight. Big question answered there.

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by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is Te Huna getting him to the ground in the first place though? Te Huna isn’t even an imitation of an elite wrestler. If he can’t stop the shot from Te Huna, why should I believe he’s going to stop V-Mat’s shot? Brandon Vera’s? Elliot Marshall’s? Forget bringing up the elite wrestlers in the division like Davis, Rashad Evans, or Jon Jones. I just don’t see it happening.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 27, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

FYI to any would-be callers

When you get in, PLEASE hit the 1 when it prompts you to talk to the host. That way I know you want to talk to the fellas.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

even his corner was imploring him to posture and drop bombs…both in between rounds and during the 3rd.

by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 27, 2011 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

28-28 means one was 10-10

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

er..I mean one was 10-8

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

well..nevermind

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

10-9 + 10-9 + 10-10 = 29-29

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Shit. 10-9 + 9-10 + 10-10 = 29-29

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

or...

they scored round 1 penn, round 2 penn and round 3 fitch 10-8 for 28-28.

I’m done rambling

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha

It’s alright. 28-28 scores usually don’t happen, although I still am interested in seeing what judges scored what rounds. At least you are still better at math than Bryan Alvarez is!

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, This Show

I mean the pay per view, not this episode of Bloody Elbow Radio. It was up and down in terms of enjoyment. I feel the same way that Bishop does about Bisping, but I guess I can’t complain about the main event decision given how the fight turned out. Although, for the first (and maybe only) time, I was rooting for Fitch! It was more because I disliked Penn even more. What I hate about BJ the most is that sometimes it doesn’t seem like he wants to be there (see, the two Edgar fights), and that sort of thing gets my dander up. Say what you will about Jon, but I’ve never thought he has ever taken the night off in the cage.

Plus, I can’t wait until discussion gets to the Lytle fight, as I am now a big fan of Brian Ebersole. He was SO wacky and yet he was effective too, and Christ, he shaved his chest hair to an arrow pointing up to his face!

For Neil, I have to mention that Mark Hunt is now trending on Twitter; that is astounding. However, “Cindy Lauper” is, which is distressing, as of course it’s Cyndi Lauper.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:11 AM EST reply actions  

I still don't feel the trends mean much for the world at large

But I must say, Hunt getting a walk-away KO was so, SO great. It would’ve been even better if I hadn’t picked ol’ Chris there to win the fight.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Mark Hunt winning a fight in 2011 is alone a funny fact.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I strongly feel that when you’re getting walked down by Hunt in 2011, let alone getting yourself KO’d, it’s probably time to take a little time to yourself and re-evaluate your career.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But at least he can still look like a jacked-up version of Mr. Kennedy… whoops, I mean Mr. Anderson.

Sorry for the pro wrestling reference, but it’s true.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanx

But I’ve heard other people make that comparison too.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

When was the last time someone used the term “till the cows come home”?

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

Wish you guys waited til after the post fight press conference to do this. :(

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:19 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, tell me about it

But you’ve gotta be hard and fast with news. Besides, gotta start shows on the hour or half hour, so better a little early than a little late.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather listen to this and read about the press conference afterwards. They always seem so awkward to me. I love all of your analysis way more :)

by sam98597 on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who scored it 28-28 too? I thought Round 1 was BJ, without much argument. Round 2, I valued the takedown, dominant position, sub attempt, and broken nose by BJ over the takedown and fence control by Fitch. The 3rd round is definitely a 10-8. Penn didn’t land a punch.
28-28 sounds good to me.

by xDieseLx on Feb 27, 2011 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

It’s not a horrible score by any means.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

GSP vs Fitch at 130 whattt

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:24 AM EST reply actions  

Oh

We all knew what that caller meant.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah sorry just heard tail end of it and thought it was news or something

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh No

It’s understandable if Shields got injured or something, but that hasn’t happened… not that it means it couldn’t happen.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

My question: What do you guys think is next for Siver? Mac danzig?

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

Damn, Matt! I don’t think I’ve ever heard you this angry.

by Lucas2 on Feb 27, 2011 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

And I’ve listened to Bishop on the radio since June of ’09.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, people hate Bisping?

"If it's undisputed, what's all the fighting about?"

by Ephemeral Artery on Feb 27, 2011 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

its easy

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on Feb 27, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i meant to say its easy to hate the guy

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Rivera talked shit and he got his ass beat. Seems about right to me.

"If it's undisputed, what's all the fighting about?"

by Ephemeral Artery on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Is “go home loser” that big of a deal? Tito Ortiz made a career out of inappropriate post-fight celebrations. It’s refreshing to not have a fun hugfest after a “grudge match”

And I just don’t see the big deal about the knee.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

Hmm.. maybe that's why I feel so similarly about them

Although Bisping is winning fights, so I guess that’s good. Or something.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see the problem with the knee, either. It was obviously illegal, but I can’t believe that he threw it for any other reason than he was amped up and it was ill-timed. Why would he throw it knowing full well that he could get an L off of it?

"If it's undisputed, what's all the fighting about?"

by Ephemeral Artery on Feb 27, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll timed?

The guy wasn’t on a knee on his way up, he was on two knees and was chilling. Come on.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So your opinion is that he was willing to take a DQ loss?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah

I think he figured he’d hurt the man that called him names, and if it got called it’s a 50/50 it was a DQ vs a NC.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

By the rules...

that’s a DQ

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Throwing that knee took a fraction of a second. It was a horrendous decision, but I can’t believe that a guy like Bisping who has such a high fight IQ would intentionally throw an illegal knee.

Either way, it’s perfect for his heel persona.

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by Ephemeral Artery on Feb 27, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

He was busting him up before the knee…

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST reply actions  

He's a dirty cheater! A rotten cheater

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he was dominating

He had landed some ground and pound, but it didn’t seem like he was doing THAT much.

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by Loot on Feb 27, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Bisping claims his hero is Randy Couture; well, Randy would never have acted like that.

by Tj Babinski on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Question:

Can the commission suspend Mike for his antics. In particular the knee. That was dangerous. In my opinion, that was Wes Simpson stomping Frank Mir territory.

by castleeb on Feb 27, 2011 1:32 AM EST reply actions  

Does the CSAC care about an Australian athletic comission?

They’ll honor the NSAC and NJ, but I dunno about a different continent.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Wes Simpson was always one of my favorite fighters. Too bad about his fight with Bob Lashman.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point about the lack of a commission. Sorry for the Sims misspell.

by castleeb on Feb 27, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Matt Bishop is sounding very Paul Heyman-esque during this rant… I’m hoping for a New Jack run-in.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

I AM directly behind him

And may have a crutch or two I can smack him with. Just sayin’.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Go with the cheese grater… or the stapler. The classics.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me while I run upstairs to the kitchen

Otherwise, I’ve got a 20% off at Bed Bath and Beyond somewhere.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You know… forget about use of illegal objects in a wrestling ring… Let’s talk about home decor instead.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

almost

makes you fly off the handle?

by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 27, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

You hold the clinch and wait for the guy to try to stand. He got antsy and threw the knee. He deserved the point deduction and a loss should Jorge decided not to continue. But these things honest to god do happen.

White, Njokuani, Rogan…about 100 fighters have dropped the “faggot” bomb so I can’t treat him any more differently than them. I’m just similarly disappointed about that as I am with anyone else.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

He threw an uberknee! That shit is so goddamn illegal.

Michael Bisping is shit!

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 27, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s illegal in the rules. Just like low blows..etc.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You're saying it was unintentional

Dudes a dickhead for it man. That’s not unintentional.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 27, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I honest to god think he just got antsy and threw it. it was stupid but I really don’t think he was going "well, I am going to take a loss here and try to hurt him.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno Brent. I can live with his antics. If he wants to make a fool of himself fine. But that knee had bad intentions. That didn’t look like a Melvin Guillard knee.. He threw it WAY early.

by castleeb on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m posting way too many comments but I just can’t say enough that I’m SO fucking sick of every grudge match ending with a hug and a burying of the hatchet and a “what a great show of sportmanship”

Give me some guys that are just flat dickheads.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

I’m totally fine with dickheads, trash talking is one thing, but spitting on the corner was too far.

by sam98597 on Feb 27, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s gross and disappointing. But guys do get amped up at the end of fights and that’s the moment that a lot of guys lose their shit and do really stupid things.

The spitting is the only thing I’m upset about at all

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

True

and I suppose spitting is better than a sucker punch, or brawl…

by sam98597 on Feb 27, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I Hate To Say It

But I agree with that. Maybe it’s because I’ll always be a pro wrestling fan, but that’s how I think. Still, Bisping just acted stupid throughout, from getting so MAD at Rivera to spitting to going for a hug but then starting more trash talk. You don’t have to do that to be a consistent heel.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

At least we can all still laugh at Bisping’s Twitter page (twitter.com/bisping if you’ve never seen it before). He’s doing it wrong, to borrow a quote.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

God willing

I recall someone mentioning burying a certain someone where they stand. I’ll get some MAD lulz out of Bisping crying and carrying on about getting Sonnen’d.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Right now

I’d love nothing more than for Chael to get his shit together and wreck havoc all over “Queen Elizabeth” Bisping. Plus, I would enjoy the trash talk!

by Tj Babinski on Feb 27, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

Bisping will get Sonnen’d for 15 minutes and then think he was ripped off in the decision.

by Tj Babinski on Feb 27, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Judge's Scores

Courtesy of the Figure Four Online site, the scores for the main event:

Barry Foley 29-28 giving Fitch rounds two and three

Sal D’Amato and Chris Lee 28-28 giving Penn rounds one and two, Fitch a 10-8 round three

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

Robbie Alomar spit in an umps face. He was fined and may have been suspended (I don’t rmeember) if that happened to Bisping…whatever, that’s fair. But no one else has gotten fined for the “homophobic slurs” ..etc.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

Hmm… anyone want to test if you can get banned over it?

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Alomar was suspended for the first five regular season games in 1997 and donated $50,000 to ALD research.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel the urge to kick dirt on your shoes repeatedly while arguing a call now.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh Boy

A troll call! What a FAIL this is.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:45 AM EST reply actions  

No

I could barely understand what that guy was even babbling about. It was just mumbling to me, and he added nothing of note. And, I say that as someone who went out to Buffalo Wild Wings tonight to see the show and of course had a few beers there.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Bishop, I'm drunk too and just spoke with you.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 27, 2011 1:46 AM EST reply actions  

Well, when you’re an alcoholic… people only get weirded out when they talk to a sober you.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm calling back in

I got beef with Brent Brookhouse saying Bisping wasn’t wrong!

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 27, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Careful

The phone guy might screen you. Or not.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

That phone guy is an asshole. If I could just figure out who he is… I’d internet kick his ass in the cyber playground at 3 o’clock dot com.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Glad we’re united against the tyranny of that piece of shit… that guy… man, don’t get me started.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You’ve caught a touch of Hispanic Chael Sonnen… It becomes you.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Alchemist saying that the stoppage was quick is the most absurd thing this evening.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:47 AM EST reply actions  

Besides the Fukuda robbery....

yup….

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by Tonley on Feb 27, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

A side note about Bisping...

he was grunting with each punch. He had plans to finish that fight.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

I have another question: what do you guys think of Siver fighting the winner of Maynard/Edgar?

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

Well

You got to have Pettis fight that winner first. After that, I don’t know about Siver. If they schedule him in a fight against a “big name” in the division and he wins, then maybe so.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Siver/Guillard…book it

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

that’s a great fight, i could see melvin ironically wrestling it out

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I see the same outcome happening again. I’m actually horrified at the idea that Melvin could get a title shot beating Evan Dunham and Dennis Siver. Apparently everyone forgot Siver’s entire career except this fight.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 27, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

2008 was a while ago and both are much better than they used to be.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Melvin was always the better and more whole talent. Now he’s with a better camp and has a better trainer too. I don’t see Siver’s striking being so much different that it makes a huge difference.

And still. Dennis Siver got pretty well dominated by Pearson 11 months ago. Now Siver has magically drifted into title contention and Pearson is sitting around in the prelims killing time. Why not give Pearson some rub back by letting him beat someone he already beat once before? At least then you have the upside of a title contender the UK fans might buy into.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 27, 2011 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Pearson deserves some elevation. Siver as a title contender is absurd. I just think he’s a good fight for Guillard if you can’t find something better. I mean, I’d take Pearson/Melvin also

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Really, the problem is that these guys are all interchangeable. No one is really separating themselves from the pack. You can take all the lightweight names in the UFC who aren’t fighting for the title in a couple months, put them in a hat, and get this sort of matchmaking and random result. Someone really needs to step forward soon.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 27, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Heel vs. Heel never sells.

…i’ve watched way too much pro wrestling.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

Good point. Can’t root against two guys.

by xDieseLx on Feb 27, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Like hell you can't

There’s always a chance that the scoreboard falls mid-match.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

However, it does sell in fashion contests…

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Chael vs Anderson did pretty well. Lots of people hated either way

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I say we put Bisping up against the winner of Jon Jones vs Shogun Rua. Please?

by castleeb on Feb 27, 2011 1:54 AM EST reply actions  

Wrong weight class

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha

True. However, I would enjoy Bisping getting WRECKED against The Spider. I don’t really like either guy, to say the least, but in this one case I’ll root for Anderson.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I know what I did there.

by castleeb on Feb 27, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

And the only reason I semi-seriously brought it up is because he did compete at 205 at one time. Mainly I was just insinuating that I wanted to see him get wrecked though.

by castleeb on Feb 27, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what happens when you insinuate… it makes a “sin” out of “in” and “u”.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, if I had to blow one part of you… that would be the one least likely to make me cry in the morning.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Whoa now

Lte me check the SBNation terms of service real quick…

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Why did you ban me? I had to hack the entire system to post this… I also changed all mention of “Mark Hunt” to “Mike Hunt” in the archives… You’re welcome.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent

That’s a change that will benefit everyone, and in a big way!

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s the first of many changes you’ll see in the ensuing days… I’m working on the code to change Brent Brookhouse’s name to Brock Brockhouse… all of the names used in his posts will be changed to Brock Lesnar… rendering his posts nonsensical… but infinitely more readable.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

ball peen hammer

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll try to hack around this… where’s my beginner’s html book…

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You mess with the Llama… you get the spit.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm… I’ve looked at my dotcommatrix server… and I’m working the insulated routes… but I still haven’t figured out how to make every sentence Snowden writes end in a smiley face just yet…. Let me open a new interface to the converter and see what happens.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

G-Sot's takedowns were way off point tonight.

Wasn’t running the pipe or turning corners at all. Really weak.

That said, Siver looked hilariously better than I ever expected from him.

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-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

155 is crazy. So many guys can win big fights on any given night.

by xDieseLx on Feb 27, 2011 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

damn

I tweeted to Matt that he should watch the Bisping-Henderson fight to calm down… now I look like a thief.

by Tj Babinski on Feb 27, 2011 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

Mess with the Llama…you get the spit

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

What do you have against Tibet exactly?

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

ha!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I love Daniel Powter.

Awesome, sir.

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-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

He’s old and his wrestling sucks. The top end of the division is a bad place to have iffy striking and shitty wrestling. He’s Aussie Aoki

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

With a way wackier chest build.

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by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

Re Sotiropoulos

He did have a little hype behind him, and even though I picked him to win, I wasn’t surprised when Siver won. I mean really, there aren’t that many shining stars at 155, and who has Sotiropoulos even really beat? Yeah, Pellegrino is a good fighter, but not great, and he’s probably the best name in the bunch.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 2:06 AM EST reply actions  

Speaking off 155, I can honestly see Pearson as a contender in another year or two.

"If it's undisputed, what's all the fighting about?"

by Ephemeral Artery on Feb 27, 2011 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

The Bonuses

Fight of the Night: Ebersole vs. Lytle, of course
Knockout: Mark Hunt (lol)
Submission: Kyle Noke

I got that from Wikipedia but I’ll presume it’s correct. I bet everyone is SHOCKED that Lytle got a bonus.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

All-American Bash

Sonnen vs. Bisping, July 4th!

7 SF - WR AJ Green, Georgia - BPA.

by Typecast on Feb 27, 2011 2:22 AM EST reply actions  

Not listening but I saw the comments and I wanted to add my two cents about Bisping/Rivera. What offended my wasn’t Bisping’s post fight or even the obviously illegal knee – and it doesn’t matter that Rivers chose to continue, if he was injured it isn’t his chose if wants to continue it’s the officials – it was Goldberg and Rogan’s lack of any comments about it post fight. Can’t take away from a fighters win by bringing up the fact that something may have seriously altered the fight. Can’t even ask the fighter that threw it if he thought it had an impact on his opponent. That was horrible and as much as I like Rogan that reminded me how he isn’t a professional commentator by any stretch. Could you imagine Al Bernstein or the HBO boxing tram brushing that aside so easily?

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2011 2:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Brian Ebersole

This guy really entertained me. I heard on the Sherdog show that he would probably be wacky, but even I was surprised at all he did, from the chest hair arrow to coming out to Tom Petty, to the headgear, to using cartwheel-based offense… I fell in love with him. Well, maybe I shouldn’t go that far, but I so enjoyed his wackiness and yet he was effective in the fight too and showed off some nice skills (well, I thought he did; him escaping some precarious positions, for example). Of course, I wouldn’t be surprised if he loses his next two fights too, but at least on this night I enjoyed what I saw.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 2:22 AM EST reply actions  

Noke

He also made me laugh with his Motley Crue music and walking out in a gas mask that was called a “training mask”. More wackiness.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 2:28 AM EST reply actions  

: (

Well, actually I was mistaken there. It was some other dude that came out to the Crue. Of course, Noke came out to Men At Work! How could I forget? Actually, I’ll blame it on the beers I drank tonight. My bad. I guess I’ll take my roasting from Brent and Forrest, as part of it was deserved.

by Blair Russell on Feb 27, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

bah...

I didn’t remember so I’m in the wrong as well

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Gas Mask?
I thought it was supposed to be a gimp mask. What the hell does that say about me?

by Gepetto on Feb 27, 2011 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Gustafsson's scrambling has improved so much

and he’ll outstrike anybody short of Rogerio, Shogun, Lyoto, and Rampage already. He’s the best prospect in the UFC besides Phil Davis, who won’t be a prospect much longer.

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-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 2:35 AM EST reply actions  

Also, to Brent:

Gustafsson walks around 225-230lbs. He’s fucking big.

"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry for the cough...

thought I was on mute

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 2:38 AM EST reply actions  

Banned for sure

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Feb 27, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Lung cancer is a hell of a thing. I’ll pray for you, internet mma man.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re just a glass half empty kind of guy. Plenty of people who have visited Japan have won since then.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just positing things that should be recognized in this public discourse. Also, we should note that even more fighters have won since November that have eaten sushi within a recent time period of their fights. JMMA never die!

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's also remember

That the same guy that’s always yammering on about not leaving it in the hand of the judges is the same one who is bringing the judges in for the non-US shows. So yeah.

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 2:44 AM EST reply actions  

Your logic is unwelcome here. There’s the see… door your way out of it.

Man, I fucked up that blow off.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re right… because I’m potato chips and a bag of ALLLL THAAAAT!

Goddamn. I can’t get this right.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Talk to the face… because the hand don’t want none.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Nick Ring's stand up technique was super limp wristed.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 27, 2011 2:45 AM EST reply actions  

He’s a dandy of a fighter.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The people I was watching the fight with asked me who a few people were.

I told them Reinhardt is literally the worst fighter in the UFC in Zuffa history. Worse than Tiki. Worse than Kimbo. He’s probably worse at MMA than James Toney.

"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 27, 2011 2:54 AM EST reply actions  

Dude, Zuffa brought Tank Abbot back after a 5-year layoff in pro wrestling. There’s no debate..

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2011 3:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not to mention, his delightful musky odor.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He at least had some name value

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 27, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You can’t saying anything about name value when your other examples for worst fighters includes Kimbo Slice and James Toney.

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2011 4:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hunt's first win since 2006

Been a while Mark, welcome back to the winner’s circle!

by -Neil- on Feb 27, 2011 2:57 AM EST reply actions  

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

A final thought, is Snowden making a face turn through his amiable radio appearances… or is there something more insidious going? See above.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 3:24 AM EST reply actions  

Badbye to you, maam.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 27, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions  

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