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Bobby Lashley Exclusive: Too Much, Too Soon For Former WWE Star

Bobby Lashley

In a lot of ways Bobby Lashley owes his career to Brock Lesnar. Once dubbed "Black Lesnar," the former Army wrestler has followed in the giant South Dakotan's footsteps, from the amateur wrestling world, to the theatrics and grueling road life of the WWE, right into an MMA cage.

That's both a good and a bad thing. Lesnar has paved the way, but he's also created enormous expectations. Unrealistic expectations. Few will ever be able to match Brock's rocket like rise to the top of the MMA business. He fought former champion Frank Mir in his second fight. By his fourth fight he was vanquishing the legendary Randy Couture. Lashley couldn't match that. No one could. 

"It's hard when you have your first fight. And that first fight is on TV," Lashley told Bloody Elbow Radio in an exclusive interview. "You have a lot of publicity around you. It's kind of hard. Other guys, they get a handful of fights before they ever see any competition or are even on TV or anything like that. My first fight was on a major card and I've been on TV my whole career. Everybody was like 'Who are you going to fight next? Are you going to fight Fedor?' And man, I've only got one fight under my belt!" 

After a controversial loss to Chad Griggs last August in Houston, Lashley regrouped, reevaluated, and is moving forward. Making it to the top is still the goal, but this time, he's going to take it slow. Lashley has parted ways with Strikeforce and is starting fresh March 25th in Titan Fighting Championship,  a regional powerhouse operating in his old Kansas City stomping grounds.

"I'm not giving up. I know what I'm capable of...There's going to be a lot less pressure. Because I'm not undefeated anymore," Lashley said. "That's going to alleviate a lot of pressure for me. I don't have to worry about keeping this undefeated streak or anything like that. I can just go out there and be more comfortable. I think you're going to see a much better fighter, because I think they're going to let me fight every couple of months. I'm just going to get better and better and better."

The loss to Griggs was liberating in a way, but the circumstances still trouble the former wrestler. Lashley controlled the first two rounds and was in a dominant position when the referee decided to stand him up. Struggling for breath, it was a decision that changed the fight irrevocably.

"It was kind of garbage. It was very, very poorly officiated. You can't improve from full mount. I don't think there's a better position. Taking me from the full mount position and putting us back on our feet, that was really bad," Lashley said. Exhausted after all most ten minutes of hard fighting, Griggs was able to put him away. But, according to Lashley, illness and not cardio was to blame for his diminished gas tank. "I was training really hard and feeling phenomenol. Then a couple of days before the fight I started feeling really weak. I went down to urgent care. The fight was on Saturday, I went to urgent care on Thursday. I just felt like garbage. They said I was dehydrated and they gave me some fluids and put me on an IV...I'm a heavyweight. I don't cut weight. There's no way I should be dehydrated....afterwards I was out of it. They had to give me four bags of IV fluid. Just to get me back...they sent the information back to my Doc here and that's when he said that I had mono."

Since recovering physically, Lashley has been back in the gym and improving on his skills. He plans a trip to train with Josh Barnett, a fellow pro wrestler who will be busy preparing for his upcoming quarterfinal matchup in the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix. Lashley's opponent is an unknown named James Jack. But it's less about the opponent and more about the cage time for the fallen prospect.

"This Titan organization, they have a lot of fights planned this year. I could possibly be fighting every other month. And if that opportunity is presented to me, I damn sure will be fighting every other month," Lashley said. "Experience makes a world of difference when you're in that cage. That's one of the main things. I've been improving my skills in the gym considerably, but just getting out there and getting in the cage and fighting - that's what's going to make me a better fighter. I'm trying to get out there, get active, and stay as active as possible."

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You can hear the complete Bobby Lashley interview on Bloody Elbow Radio. Join us this afternoon as special guest host Luke Thomas talks with Maximum Fighting Championship owner Mark Pavelich.

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ya can’t hate on a guy if he just wants to fight. The old school guys used to fight all the time, it turned out that if you want to be a good fighter you should probably fight a whole bunch of times…

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by rask4p on Feb 24, 2011 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Contact sports while having mono? That’s a recipe for a ruptured spleen and death.

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by woomikee on Feb 24, 2011 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

That’s what I was thinking when I heard he had mono. I can’t believe an AC would allow him to compete if it was known that he had mono. Mono sucks. I’ve had mono and you get a sore throat, you always feel very weak, I was told not to get over heated, and to avoid any contact with my spleen.

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Feb 24, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Mono

put me in the hospital in ICU for a week. It’s not something you should fuck with.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 24, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you could pass it on that way or get over heated.

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Feb 24, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I was over mono in a week, from diagnosis to my return to work & school.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 24, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I have

legendarily awful tonsils.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 24, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

And

it didn’t help that I was misdiagnosed for a couple weeks.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 24, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought I had mono for 2 weeks

Turns out I was just really bored…

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by nicey on Feb 24, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

Yea man, it is :)

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by nicey on Mar 1, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

So did I. Sleep apnea and everything.

Then, at the age of 35, I had them removed. Overnight, I was better in pretty much every way.

Elective surgery isn’t supposed to be that helpful. It shouldn’t have had to be elective.

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by Llewdor on Feb 24, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t know he had mono until postfight.

by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 24, 2011 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Got ya

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Feb 24, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Barnett is the perfect guy for Lashley to train with

Still don’t understand why more of these wrestlers with great positional skills don’t adopt a catch wrestling game. Seems much more effective than wrestle-boxing. Lashley’s got a lot of flexibility too; it could really redefine his game.

by Trust Doesn't Rust on Feb 24, 2011 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Barnett or maybe Bas

Bas would get his striking in shape, Barnett is a more natural style fit.

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by rask4p on Feb 24, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope he doesn’t get seduced into taking anything. But learning from the Dutchman would improve his kicks a lot. Not ot mention the slick submissions he’d acquire from El Guapo. And frankly, he’s a lil more disciplined then a Kimbo Slice anyway

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by Krimson on Feb 24, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Just teach him the lost art of palm strikes.

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Feb 24, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We call those "Bitchsmacks"

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by Krimson on Feb 24, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Are we talking about Bobby Lashley?
Hope he doesn’t get seduced into taking anything.


You hope this guy doesn’t get seduced into taking something?

He wrestled at 177lbs for three years in college; in the WWE he was 275lbs.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Feb 24, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hasn’t failed a drug test yet, so it would be unfair to speculate. Until proven otherwise, I’m telling myself that he has a steady diet of horse meat.

by Ether Bunny on Feb 24, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Man I know there has been a lot of criticism lately over the "eyeball" test,

but damn…dude LOOKS like he’s been taking something based on these pics. I know it’s not a scientific fact and all, just sayin…

by SentientAndroid on Feb 24, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He started out much smaller than Overeem

and ended up much bigger.

We are talking at least 80lbs of ripped muscle gained in his 20’s. That’s virtually impossible for anyone without some serious pharmacological help.

To put in perspective, we now know that Todd Duffee is on testosterone. What are the odds of Lashley being bigger and more ripped naturally?

That said, much like Brock Lesnar, Bobby Lashley is much smaller now than when he preformed in the WWE. Not to say either guy was doing anything illegal or cheating in MMA, which I don’t believe is the case.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Feb 24, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Black Lesnar? Sounds more like Black Tito to me.

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by bcpjkell on Feb 24, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

We all know there's only one "Black Lesner"

and he doesn’t post that often anymore.

Lashley looked like he was in the brink of death and it really seemed that he was overwhelmed. You can win by positional dominance but there’s more to it. He was thrown in with people that lacked skill unlike Lesner who was baptized in the fire. I don’t know what camp Lashley belongs to but Lesner at least was able to step it up after his loss to Mir.

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by Krimson on Feb 24, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

You are totally correct.

Bobby wanted a big contract and with that comes pressure and the spotlight.

While I can understand folks having issues with that stand-up, Bobby was doing nothing.

by Lynchman on Feb 24, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he got stood up cause the ref had to check a cut

then after he checked it they just restarted instead of going back to the previous position

absolutely horrible reffing job, inexcusable to ever pull someone off of mount

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by milk72 on Feb 24, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

I actually think the stand-up was due to inactivity, then once he was up the ref decided to check the cut.

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by Jay Bittner on Feb 24, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

What? Lashley’s first four fights:

Joshua Franklin @ MFA: There Will Be Blood
Jason Guida @ SRP: March Badness
Mike Cook @ MFC 21
Bob Sapp @ Ultimate Chaos

He didn’t jump right into Strikeforce, buddy.

by Mike Fagan on Feb 24, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Weren’t three of those televised though?

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by Tim Burke on Feb 24, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

In Canada.....

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Feb 24, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

MFC’s on HDNet, isn’t it? And Ultimate Chaos was on PPV everywhere, as was March Badness I believe.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 24, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just joking

I think you’re right.

just wanted to bag on Lashley…. and Canada.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Feb 24, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, okay. And you’re just jealous you don’t live in Canada. It’s okay though.

Still a Beer Monster.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 24, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Its true

I would love to live in beautiful British Columbia.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Feb 24, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Good answer!

Still a Beer Monster.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 24, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Also look at Bobby’s quote from the article “It’s hard when you have your first fight. And that first fight is on TV,”

But you are correct he had four fights before stickeforce

by jks9202 on Feb 24, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo, Lashley: why you pullin’ my taffy?

by ProfoundTechnique on Feb 24, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Lashley vs Griggs rematch

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by RTCplayer on Feb 24, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Lashley needs to stop fighting cans

He won’t improve by fighting guy like his next opponent or Wes SIms

by Cool2010 on Feb 24, 2011 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Improvement comes in the gym.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 24, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, when he does fight cans, he can’t keep using the same technique of using a lot of energy to force a takedown and using a lot of energy doing ground n pound. Improvement happens in the gym, but he has to put together what he learned in the gym into the cage/ring, but he just reverts back to the same takedown and ground n pound. For example, if he keeps throwing hardly any strikes in an actual MMA fight, he’s never going to get comfortable doing standup in an actual MMA fight. He fought the same way that he fought these lower level fighters the same way that he fought Griggs, and it cost him.

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by chrisbboy82 on Feb 24, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Phenomenol

Best steroid on the black market.

by dribblebib on Feb 24, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm according to Titan Fighting Website..

“Lashley will be competing for the first time since a Strikeforce event on August 21, 2010. His return to the cage on March 25 will come against M-1 Challenge veteran James Jack, who is 6-2-1.”

But Sherdog has James Jack record at 5-4-1..

So I dunno who to believe. Lashley is expected to win, but if he loses it will be awful for his career.

by DirtyML on Feb 24, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Never trust a promotion’s listing of a fighter record (even the UFC’s)

A funny side note on that. I once watched a guy lost two fights in about 3 months on the local circuit and then a month later fight again and be announced as undefeated.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 24, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

*lose not lost

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 24, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I wouldn't

Interesting you should say that because, once again after watching the Rivera/Anderson fight for the first time earlier this week, Cage Rage had Rivera with a 17-3 record going into the fight against Silva. I was like wtf???

by SentientAndroid on Feb 24, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think cage experience plays a big factor most definitely.

The pressure of being on tv, bright lights, the hype etc. I’m sure takes time to get used to. I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but just look at the way Anderson Silva fought much earlier in his career (Mecca) and the way that he fought during his Cage Rage tenure. He looked MUCH more comfortable and confident on his feet/in the cage against Jorge Rivera and Fryklund for example as opposed to his much earlier fights. I mean dude was still beasting, but didn’t look as comfortable throwing strikes then in 2000 than say a few years later in 04/05. I still have to check out those few fights in beetween Chonan and Carlos Newton and rewatch a few others to gauge when I really think that he became comfortable in the cage/ring though.

by SentientAndroid on Feb 24, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

His fight was bullshit.

The standup, and then the multiple illegal strikes. That being said, I’m not a fan and probably won’t go out of my way to watch his future fights.

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by James Brady on Feb 24, 2011 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

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