Judo Chop: Carlo Prater Uses a Novel Finish to the Anaconda Choke
As is often the case with the less-heralded events, Friday's Strikeforce Challengers show saw a great night of fights. The main event between Pat Healy and the previously undefeated Lyle Beerbohm was an epic bout filled with sweet transitions and great grappling from both men. It was also fun to see the veteran Healy successfully spoil Beerbohm's rise. I'm sure Beerbohm will be back but there's a reason fans love a hard-nosed spoiler like Healy.
But it was veteran Carlo Prater who really dazzled with his BJJ technique against Bryan Travers, unleashing a very novel finish to the anaconda choke that I'd never seen before.
Here's Steve Cofield talking about the fight:
Carlo Prater wanted to turn the page from an awful 2010. He didn't waste much time doing so. The 29-year-old veteran, who lost 3-of-4 fights last year, put Bryan Travers to sleep with a modified anaconda choke just 38 seconds into their fight at Strikeforce Challengers in Cedar Park, Tx.
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Prater lost 2-of-3 fights last September in Shine's lightweight tournament. He was one of the favorites coming in, but fell to both Rich Crunkilton and Drew Fickett. He was just 2-6 since the middle of 2008. Keep in mind, this was a guy who started off his career with an 11-1-1 record, including wins over Carlos Condit and Spencer Fisher.The Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt charged forward from the start, landing an inside leg lick, a left hand and when Travers (15-3) tried to work the clinch, Prater scored an easy trip takedown just 16 seconds into the fight. Within three seconds, he secured the choke. Travers was out pretty quickly. Referee Jon Schorle was a little slow in stopping the fight (0:58 mark).
Prater called it a 'sucuri' roll after the fight. Sucuri means snake in Portuguese. Here's an example of Renato "Babalu" Sobral using aD'arce/Brabo choke and here's Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira attempting to finish an anaconda choke with a gator roll.
In the full entry we'll hear from K.J. Gould and look at some animated gifs of the action as well as seeing a couple of videos of similar moves in training and grappling competition.
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Here's K.J. Gould of Cage Side Seats breaking down the action:
After a bit of striking Travers tries to get in close and they end up pummeling to over-under control but Prater is first to react with an inside trip. On the ground Travers tries to lock up a Half-Guard but Prater moves his leg out of the way and now they're on their knees head-to-head and Prater briefly controls with a Front-Headlock before going for an Anaconda grip (Figure Fouring the arms). Whenever a fight ends up grappling and pummeling while head-to-head on the knees it's sometimes known as the Short Offensive in wrestling.
I just have to jump in and comment on what sweet inside trip Prater uses to take Travers down. He takes his right foot and kicks it to the back of Travers' left knee then applies force to pull him down to the ground. Back to K.J. Gould:
The beauty of setting up either an Anaconda Choke or a Brabo / D'arce choke is it can be relatively easily transitioned to from the Front Headlock (arm-in) which is a staple of control in the Short Offensive in wrestling generally. Luta Livre has a bit of a Catch Wrestling influence anyway as well as BJJ and Judo and it was interesting to see Prater strategically choose to sprawl back with the head control rather then pull guard and attempt an arm-in guillotine. But also you're not going to pull guard to setup an Anaconda or Brabo choke anyway and it seems fairly clear the Anaconda is what Prater had in mind all along.
Both Brabo and Anaconda chokes are a form of arm-triangle or head&arm choke if you prefer. The easiest way to tell the difference between the two is remembering that the Brabo choke is a near-arm choke (the arm of the opponent you trap is nearest to your body) where as the Anaconda choke is a far-arm choke (the arm of the opponent you trap is farthest from your body). They are applied slightly differently and people have different levels of success with each depending on their knowledge of positioning, base and leverage - as with most submissions and as is the case with the classic triangle choke with your legs and the reverse triangle choke where the leg position is switched around (also known as a Bolt Lock).
With this in mind it's clear Prater locks up the grip for an Anaconda. Also interestingly instead of attempting a gator roll he tripods momentarily before he sprawls back which can add more pressure (especially if the opponent tries to posture up increasing the pressure on his own neck) and does a sit-out before hooking with his outside leg and sliding his inside leg in for a modified single-elevator sweep (or modified Half Butterfly sweep in BJJ) taking Travers over. This is a variation that can be used in BJJ as well so it's not exclusive to Luta Livre or anything. In BJJ even if you do the gator roll it's typical you'd rotate yourself in and trap a leg for optimum pressure collapsing the opponent's head inwards. As you could see Travers head was beet-red by this point with the choke well and truly on.
As an extra treat here's the whole move in one gif.
Here's a video of Karel Pravec (Renzo Gracie Black Belt) from Silver Fox Brazilian Jiu Jitsu demonstrating a transitions from the guillotine to an anaconda choke.
Here's an even more similar finish being used in the National Sambo championships in 2010:
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Great stuff.
Looked to me like Travers was trying to tap by squeezing his hand open and shut a few times before he went out. But Schorle, as usual, was late to the party.
The Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt charged forward from the start, landing an inside leg lick
Never mind the anaconda choke, anyone have a gif of this?
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by ChicagoMarine on Feb 21, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
i didnt think the schorle stoppage was bad
Travers was moving his arm like he was still there and then Schorle stepped in. That was a hard stoppage to call do to Travers responding to Schorle with the hand movement. Definitely not perfect but excusable.
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Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
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Been waiting for the next one of these. Good work as usual
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The carotid chokes come on fast.
In Criminal Law class, I recall discussing a case in which a man took two or three minutes to choke someone else to unconsciousness and then death. This was memorable because I piped up and said “It does not take two or three minutes to choke someone out – not if you do it right.” I then proceeded to explain the difference in choking methods and how people almost always eff it up.
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by Ben Thapa on Feb 21, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think 3 minutes is how long the brain can survive without oxygen before damage
And eventual brain death.
Be careful when trying to affix an exact time to this kind of stuff. There’s been a few cases like that little girl who was stuck under ice in frigid water for something like a half hour and came back to life with no obvious brain damage.
It’s hard to pinpoint a precise moment when life is no longer possible, but having no oxygen for any extended period of time is definitely bad for the brain. This may explain Marc Stevens’s horrific performance at Strikeforce recently – too many times guillotined.
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I bet your teacher gave you some damn good grades after that!
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by RearNakedChoker on Feb 21, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 21, 2011 3:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Forgive me if I am a dumbass, but I thought chokes weren't used in Sambo?
by SilverNBlackZach! on Feb 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions
Depends whether it's sport sambo or combat sambo
And sometimes it just depends on the rules of whoever set up the match. Similar with Catch Wrestling even historically, sometimes chokes and strangles weren’t allowed, sometimes it was No Holds Barred.
as always, judo chops are my favorite article. i love funky yet effective grappling techniques.
i do want to comment though, on the awful technique used on the inside trip. i know it worked this time, but the wrestler in me cringes watching that gif.
Prater literally just flicked his overhook leg in between Travers’ legs and caught him off balance. This is a great way to fall awkwardly on your leg.
An inside trip hit from an over-under should have your tripping leg hitting the ground knee-first. you change levels first, so your head is level with the opponent’s chest, then step and pummel your head underneath your opponent’s armpit, landing your knee first behind his heel. you push forward hard with your chest and underhook arm, table-topping your opponent over your tripping leg.
about the knee, that trip was kinda judo influenced like an osoto gari where you connect your thigh to his in order to pull the opponent off base
he is bjj influenced and i thought it was good improvised technique, which is what bjj is all about, reacting to the moment
like an osoto gari
respectfuly, it didn’t look much like Osoto – Gari to me. However, my Judo experience is limited, so I may be wrong about this.
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 21, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
this is more along the lines of judo, not wrestling
he used an overhook attack that gives you an uchi mata or an o-uchi gari, depending on how the opponent reacts to the leg inside.
The technique has more to do with timing than force. Travers probably reacted by pushing his hips forward and lifting his weight off the leg—hence the o-uchi gari. Prater hooks the leg and turns into Travers to strip the foot away from the ground. He also pushes off with his left hand to throw Travers past his point of balance.
His technique is actually quite good.
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by judonerd on Feb 21, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
re: the inside trip
Looks like an ouchi-gari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFAFKQThj9U
Karo does it from a bodylock in that vid, but more or less the same thing. with the over under
On the ground Travers tries to lock up a Half-Guard but Prater moves his leg out of the way and now they’re on their knees head-to-head…
yeah an NCAA D1 wrestler is pulling guard on a bjj blackbelt, hahahahaha
i think kj is trying to make carlo sound better because in jiu jitsu, if you let the person on bottom get to their knees, then that is bad for you, carlo used his mistake of not applying his weight correctly after the takedown, which blackbelts do, they make mistakes too, and he allowed travers to get to his knees
Good thing he had the submission skills to make this mistake work in his favor
I let people come to their knees all the time so I can loop a d’arce, clock, anaconda, peruvian or japanese necktie in…
You let them come to their knees in a controlled fashion where you know how they’re going to move, a lot of jiu jitsu players will let pressure off their opponent so the opponent can come to their knees so they can take the back instead of attempting to pass guard normally…
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 21, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t this one the same choke Daniel Roberts used on Mike Guymon last year? Or very similar anyway. And actually it’s similar to Yoshida’s on War Machine too.
the choke is
but the roll is different IIRC
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