Tim Sylvia Talks About His Loss to Abe Wagner, Vows to Drop Back Down to Heavyweight
by Anton Tabuena on Feb 2, 2011 9:18 AM EST
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Former UFC heavyweight champion, Tim Sylvia was recently upset by TUF veteran Abe Wagner on Titan Fighting Championships. This ended his 4-fight winning streak, and more importantly, his chances for an immediate return to the big show.
Even before the fight, lots of pundits saw early warning signs as Sylvia weighed in at a whopping 311 lbs, more than 20 pounds heavier than his last bout, and the same weight as when he lost to former pro-boxer, Ray Mercer in 2009. "The Mainiac" talked to FiveOuncesOfPain about the fight, and vowed never to fight at super-heavyweight again:
"Refs need to know the fighters. Did he see my fight with Andrei Arlovski – the second one – I got dropped, got up, and KO’d him. The Randy Couture fight I got dropped and fought for twenty five minutes. It was stopped way too early… It was bullshit. The sad part is the ref told the promoter and my corner he was sorry because he knew he made a mistake and stopped it a little early."
"I went into the fight with a bum knee and it got worse somehow during the fight so I go in for a MRI sometime this week and might need surgery. We will see."
"I will never fight at super heavyweight again. I fight much better at 265 so from here on out that’s what I am going to fight at."
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Oh, I see. It’s the ref’s fault for stopping the fight too early. It had nothing to do with him being punched in the face repeatedly and then falling down.
by Patrick79x on Feb 2, 2011 8:45 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
ROFL
This is one of the best rationalizations ever. How far Tim has fallen. Who would think that being super fat, slow and totally out of shape would be a bad idea?
Tim has no fighting ambition anymore. The guy is obviously just collecting paychecks before starting his new career as a cop.
Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!
Tim doesnt realize
He insults his fans by coming in so out of shape. Not only his fans, but the people who bought tickets to see him. They paid money to see two trained fighters, not one over the hill cop who didn’t care to train and is using fights from 4 years ago to justify why the fight shouldnt have been stopped. Newsflash Tim: those were UFC title fights. This was a fight against a professional CEO. Abe Wagner is not Arlovski.
by Austin Martin on Feb 2, 2011 8:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
i feel much better at 175
but i weigh 215 and that’s not changing either. timmy is donezo.
Litrecola? Do we sell litrecola?
Texas A&M got beat so bad in the Cotton Bowl there was a 21 gun salute at the end of the 4th quarter.
Its French for gimme a fucking cola
by hexbreaker on Feb 2, 2011 9:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran
by merryprankster on Feb 2, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll take six schlitzes…… or whatever’s free.
by Snake_Pliskan on Feb 2, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Dear Tim Sylvia,
I saw the fight. You decided to go into the cage and pressure Abe Wagner. He fought back and hit you with the same shot that Randy Couture dropped you with and the same shot that Fedor used to drop you.
No comments, that is all.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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VEe is ANIMated!
I like how he talks about fighting at Superheavyweight as if he wasn’t at 311 out of laziness or disinterest or disrespect for his opponent.
Yeah Seriously
I’m going to drop down from Super Heavyweight? What did you really want the Super Heavyweight title. Were there better fights at this weight.
The damage has already been done…but if this is what he needed to get motivated to lose his fat I guess its kinda good.
I don’t see how getting blasted by Fedor (kinda embarrassing but it was Fedor) then getting blasted by Ray Mercer isn’t enough to motivate you though.
As far as fighting goes and getting in the big show again, I just don’t see how Tim Sylvia can come back from not one, but two humiliating losses-one from Ray Mercer, and another from Abe Wagner. He should really think about his MMA career, and it really seems like he wants to be a cop these days and not an MMA fighter. If he wants to take the occasional MMA fight (or professional wrestling match) here and there, good for him, but if he has any notion of going to one of the bigger MMA organizations, at this point it doesn’t seem likely.
I won't jump off the bandwagon just because you lost.
That is such a big shot. I doubt I could hit someone with a baseball bat that hard.
Did you see the size of that chicken?
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I will never fight atsuperLazy ass heavyweight again
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by xFenixKnightx on Feb 2, 2011 9:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tim Sylvia #2 p4p excuse maker
I have him just slightly behind Tito Ortiz, who is bound to go down as the all time great, p4p excuse making champion.
On a serious note, it is kind of sad to see how far Tim has fallen in a relatively short period of time.
by funkywanderer on Feb 2, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
“I will never fight at super heavyweight again. I fight much better at 265 so from here on out that’s what I am going to fight at.”
Don’t blame the referee and then reference your weight… You can’t control the referee’s incompetence, but you can control your speed and positioning. Tim, you looked sluggish at 311lbs before the referee intervened.
'No matter what your ideology may be, once you believe you are in the possession of some infallible truth, you become a combatant in a religious war."
by Yxas on Feb 2, 2011 9:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I believe him when he says he's having knee problems
Poor joints looked like they were going to buckle under his weight at the fight. Tim, please make good on getting down to 265!
"I will never fight at super heavyweight again"
That really had me cracking up. Poor Tim. The way he says it too! as if the fight was supposed to be at super hw or something, lol.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Feb 2, 2011 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Not commenting so much on this particular stoppage,
but I really think saying refs should stop fights differently based on who’s taking punches is dumb as hell. I don’t care if it’s Nick Diaz or Keith Jardine, if you’re eating unanswered punches the fight should be over.
that could be an interesting topic for conversation
that being said i feel its pretty ignorant when these fighters are complaining about the stoppages. Sure you might have still be a little conscious timmay . But it doesnt get any better from there when your half awake trying to defend yourself. It doesnt always take getting ko’d cold to justify a stoppage.
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Rory 'The Waterboy' Macdonald
Thiago 'Pitbull' Alves
Yushin 'Thunder' Okami
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua
Dominick Cruz
He's a disgrace
Retire already. Hopefully, this is the beginning of the era where ATHLETIC heavyweights are actually entering the sport. Tim Sylvia is a flashback to the dark, flabby days of the heavyweight division in MMA (more so in the UFC then elsewhere, as Pride’s was solid for a good while).
How can you expect him to retire??!!
hes something of a legend in MMA!
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