Fedor's Legacy... and Mythology.

You’re still trying to make up for fucking up in 2009. When you ABSOLUTELY 100% GUARANTEED that Fedor was gonna sign with the UFC.

Here’s logic just before the Fedor/UFC saga (this is when he was talking him up because he might be in the UFC soon):

it will be a long time before anyone can say they are the best heavyweight ever except Fedor.

When Fedor beats Barnett – He will have beaten every top heavyweight of that era (2007 and back).

He doesnt need to beat the top heavyweights of this era to stake that claim of being the best HW to date…

by mmalogic on Jun 3, 2009 3:53 PM PDT

I’m giddy because its almost guaranteed Fedor will be in the UFC.

by mmalogic on Jul 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT

I GUARANTEE FEDOR WILL BE IN THE UFC. Whether Finkie knows it or not.

Listen closely and I’ll connect the dots for you:

Zuffa Hates Affliction. Zuffa doesn’t need anymore clothing sponsors. 3 weeks prior to Josh Barnett testing positive Affliction sent notices to Trump Entertainment and Golden Boy that this will be their last show and they were done in this business… (To Trump E in particular because Affliction paid some of their fees in equity and this was a notice to a shareholder).

So now ask yourself what does Zuffa gain by this "Collaboration"? Zuffa hates Affliction, Affliction was already going to stop promoting, Zuffa doesn’t need anymore clothing sponsors, etc…

I’ll tell you what Zuffa gains: Finkie’s Balls in a vice.

I guarantee Fedor will be in the UFC.

by mmalogic on Jul 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT

Then it changed when he didn’t sign on the day you expected…then it changed when he wasn’t gonna fight Brock, but you weren’t fazed. You even wrote a fanpost.

My bloody elbow brothers probably expected an apology from me as “I guaranteed Fedor’s next fight would be in the UFC”… and rightfully so after hearing the strikeforce/fedor announcement.

But pay heed my brothers as you’ve only seen half (Zuffa’s amazing offer) of why I guaranteed it… The other half – the stick – is yet to be pulled out.

Always bet on Zuffa.

I may be wrong about Brock being Fedors first fight… But i still guarantee his next fight will be in a zuffa production.

by mmalogic on Aug 15, 2009 10:43 PM PDT

When your GUARANTEE fell through, you switched stances. You did before the Fedor/UFC saga, and you did after it. Like you do about a lot of your predictions that haven’t come true. That’s why you’re sitting here bagging on Fedor now, even though you KNOW the reasons he didn’t fight these guys. You KNOW he didn’t duck Cro Cop. You KNOW that using the UFC angle for those fights going out the window is ridiculous. This is pretty funny though.

Folks that are new to BE – mmalogic is a smart guy and knows a lot about the sport. But he has an agenda, like many other people. Take that into account before you vilify him for trying to justify his own past mistakes with this fanpost.

Wow, your writing really suffers when it expands beyond a snarky comment. More importantly, the conclusions you draw are bizarre:

Fightng Mark Hunt instead of Crocop: While Fedor was fighting Hunt, who had actually beaten Mirko the year before, Cro Cop was signing with the UFC to fight in their February show. Who was ducking whom? Or was it the economic reality of the fight game getting in the way?

Fighting Matt Lindland instead of Gonzaga: Of course, Lindland wasn’t the first choice for this bout. Jeff Monsen was lined up as the original opponent. More importantly, Gonzaga wasn’t available for this fight due to his anachronistic promotional agreement.

Fighting Hong Man Choi instead of Randy: Are you again proposing this was a “choice?” Both fighters wanted this bout. Why didn’t it take place? You would have to ask Lorenzo Fertitta.

Fighting Brett Rogers instead of Brock: A more important question: why was Brock Lesnar picking on Frank Mir and old man Couture instead of earning his crown against the rightful champion? See how easy it is to twist things?

Fighting Werdum instead of Overeem: Not sure why this is even an issue. Werdum had beaten Alistair head to head. And, of course, by June Overeem was ready to go into pure kickboxing mode through the Grand Prix. Comparable opponent, no contoversy to anyone beyond the astroturfers.

While you are gracious enough to concede him the title of best heavyweight in the sport’s history I find fault with your idea that he hasn’t fought the best since 2005 and seem to be implying that he was undeserving of the number ranking since that time. I agree that he hasn’t always fought worthy opposition but I think there can be little doubt that he was the best heavyweight up to 2009 and was deserving of holding the title of number one until his loss in 2010. Lets take a look at Fedor’s chronology:

- from November 2002, when he entered Pride, until December 2006 ,with his last fight with the promotion, he fought and won 15 fights and had one no contest . Now it’s true that not every fighter was of world-class (or any class in some cases) caliber but sprinkled amongst these 16 fights but 8 times he was entered the ring to find a top 10 HW facing him. And this doesn’t include the adequate journeymen, such as Fujita (who was in the top 10 only a few months earlier) or a top 10 light heavyweight in Kevin Randleman. And more importantly, while he was fighting four times a year – against the good, the great, and the bad – he didn’t lose a single match.
- And since you note Mark Hunt as negative on his resume I feel the need to point out that not only was Mark Hunt ranked number 5 at that time by MMAWeekly and Sherdog (his fall since seems to blind people of the fact that he was 5-2 at the time and had beaten Cro Cop and Wanderlei Silva), but he was also a replacement because both Cro Cop and Josh Barnett turned the fight down citing injuries (oddly enough Barnett fought on that same card feeding the rumors that he was ducking Fedor all through the Pride years). Now if fighting a replacement challenger is to be viewed as evidence of "ducking" or not facing the best than I have to take offense at your critiquing of Anderson Silva’s record, since you must be aware that neither Damian Maia, and Patric Cote lineal challengers but instead replacements for more worthy challengers.
- In 2007 Fedor fought Matt Lindland, a fighter who normally fights a MW. In fairness though we should note that Fedor was booked to fight Jeff Monson and that Lindland was brought in as a last minute replacement when Monson had visa issues. Also it’s interesting to note that Fedor outweighed Lindland (who had fought at LHW less than a year before, losing a close split decision to Rampage Jackson) by 17 pounds. Much less than the 50+ pounds Brock and Bigfoot had over Couture and Fedor.
- He followed that up with the inexcusable matchup with Hong-Man Choi. An easy paycheck explains it but doesn’t excuse it.
- In 2008 Fedor came to the states and proved his place as the number one heavyweight. Now you’re stated position is that Sylvia was not the "lineal contender" – whatever the hell that made up term means – but that doesn’t change the fact that he was serious opposition at the time. How serious? Well apparently the UFC respected him enough to have him fight Antonio Nogueria for the Interim Heavyweight Title, meaning that he was ostensibly one of the top 3 fighters in the promotion in early 2008. The only fighters ahead of him? Antonio Noguiera (who perhaps claimed the "lineal challenger" with this victory and Randy’s refusal to fight him) a fighter he’d beaten twice, and Randy Couture, a fighter that was suing to fight Fedor and being denied the chance by Zuffa not by Fedor’s camp. As for Tim Sylvia’s credentials, he was ranked #5 at the time – behind only Fedor, Big Nog, Randy, and Josh Barnett – and was 7-2 in his last 9 with his only losses to Big Nog and Randy.
- After his victory over Sylvia, Fedor cemented his place as the best fighter at that time by beating Andrei Arlovski in January 2009. Arlovski’s descent since then shades people’s memories but going into that fight their was a lot of credence to the thought that Arlovski was more than a worthy foe. Besides being #2 in the polls he was on a five-fight win streak having with victories over #6, #10, and #17 fighter. He was also 11-2 over his last 3 (9-2 in the UFC) and only one fighter had been able to beat him that entire time. Should a fighter be discarded because another top fighter has their number? If that is the case we should throw out Chuck Liddell’s run as champ in the UFC because Rampage had his number. Another interesting thing to note, since he left the UFC Arlovski has gone 2-4, with the two fighters he has beaten getting contracts with the UFC while the 4 he has lost to are all competing in the Grand Prix. Make of that about the talent level disparity as you will.

To be continued after I get some work done…

I gotta be honest, I just came here to see how BM, Snowden and nottheface will burn the BS.