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Hard to Watch: Fedor Emelianenko and the Fall of MMA's First Great Generation

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Tough year for the diehards. Tough for the old-schoolers and the true-blues. Tough for the midnighters, all of us who stay up to catch a glimpse of PRIDE's glory days, played out in evermore sparsely attended Japanese arenas. And tough for the dearly devoted who swear that the ultimate heavies still have one good ruckus in the tank. Tough for the also-rans and almost-weres we didn't love enough. Tough for those old champs, the Renaissance bruisers, who bore our sport out into the bright lights of the mainstream, and showed us what mixed martial arts could become.

Saturday night, Fedor Emelianenko, a one-man institution in the world of mixed martial arts, lost for an unprecedented second fight in a row, falling in the quarterfinals of Strikeforce's heavyweight tournament to Antonio Silva. The loss prompted him to seemingly retire before some ten thousand protesting fans. Whether or not he has, in fact, taken his final bow is largely beside the point. Should he enter the ring again, it will be as a different man, diminished in the eyes of many. The man he was, the greatest heavyweight of all time, is an artifact of what we must admit is a bygone age. This last fight of his may act as a sign of the times, a seal, fastening shut the book on his generation's exploits.

Truth be told: for those of us who rhapsodize about Chuck Liddell's rise to power, Wanderlei Silva's reign of terror, or B.J. Penn's quixotic, multi-division ambitions; for those who envisioned a UFC belt around Cro Cop's waist, kept a soft spot for Tim Sylvia, or relished the twisting of many limbs under Kazushi Sakuraba's hands, this past year merely caps off a near half-decade of disappointments and growing pains. Cruel years, wherein a whole era of heroes--the names Pulver and Arlovski, Sakurai and Silva, Franklin, Ortiz, Yamamoto, Nogueira--has been gradually rendered, not unskilled, never powerless, but suddenly old.

Some, like Pulver and Sylvia, or one-time contenders Hermes Franca and David Louiseau, have stumbled their way into irrelevance, relegated to the obscurity of regional fight promotions. Others, like Hidehiko Yoshida, were able to bow out with relative grace. Most, however, continue to work on the sport's largest stages, with all their hampered motivations, all their nagging injuries and old wounds there for everyone to see. Consider Cro Cop, whose thoughts wander more and more towards his hometown, a quiet lake, a fishing rod in his hands. Consider deposed middleweight Rich Franklin, rudderless between two weight classes. Consider Rodrigo Nogueira's softening jaw, Matt Hughes's slowing double-leg, all that tape holding Sakuraba together. Take a look at the scattered remains of Chute Boxe, the thinned ranks of Brazilian Top Team, the shuttered windows of Miletich Fighting Systems. By degrees, the old standards have relinquished their place, effaced themselves, and our efforts to hold on to the past have been undone, time and again, by the likes of Frankie Edgar and Junior dos Santos. The Strikeforce tournament, itself something of a conceptual relic, looked to be a final chance for Emelianenko, perhaps the finest specimen of his generation, to stake one last claim not only for himself, but for that crop of mixed martial artist that drew tens of thousands of fans to the Saitama Super Arena, and who served as the first coaches on The Ultimate Fighter. Yet, if there was even a sliver of hope that the old guard had one more lesson to teach the up-and-comers, it's gone now, lost somewhere under the hammer falls of Antonio Silva's fists upon Emelianenko's head.

We're on the edge of an exciting, new time for mixed martial arts. The sport receives greater media attention every year, and tremendous athletes such as Jon Jones and Cain Velasquez prove that MMA is worth all the attention. But for we sentimental knuckleheads-and surely every good fight fan has at least a touch of nostalgia in them-this period of time has been a dirge five years running. 

What can you do? Don't look for a comeback. These young bucks and new-fashioned killers are too hungry to let it happen. The new MMA order, it's here. It's been here all along. May it be glorious and violent. May it be worth the bitterness of giving up all our old heroes.

Rainer Lee
Chicago, IL

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Fantastic sir.

In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains

by Brian Mayes on Feb 14, 2011 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

Best thing I’ve read written about all of this so far. Wish I could rec it more than once.

Letting go of our heroes is a hard thing to do and it just doesn’t seem like 4-5 years is enough time for an entire generation in MMA to of changed but it has.

by who me on Feb 14, 2011 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

Well done

I should have satyed out of Cain’s strawberry patch.

by donkeypunch on Feb 14, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

You took the things I was thinking

and put them into much better words than I could have.

by Hashmo on Feb 14, 2011 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

rec'd

I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on Feb 14, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

Great post. You earned that rec:)

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 14, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you

for saying it all, i was wondering how. Logged in to rec!

by ODBasyoucansee on Feb 14, 2011 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

You, sir

are one of the consistently best writers on this here site. Bravo.

You can read my work over @ http://www.headkicklegend.com/

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 14, 2011 2:59 AM EST reply actions  

What Elliot said

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by Neil Manich on Feb 14, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, dudes!

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 14, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true...

…and very sad for someone who has followed the game a couple of years. I think that a lot of fans don’t really have the emotional bonds that some of us tied during the Pride-years. I’m not saying things were better in the past or something, it’s just that nowadays I never get those goose-bumps I used to have.

by kaptenstofil on Feb 14, 2011 3:12 AM EST reply actions  

Was I the only one

who got a lump in my throat watching what could’ve been the last time we see Fedor leave the cage? even my girlfriend, who isn’t a real involved fan by any means – never even seen a Fedor fight – teared up a bit when she saw how intense everything was. I wish everyone would appreciate the guy for the absolute machine that he was. Fedor, thank you for everything, I only wish I became a fan sooner.

"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman

by dgonz on Feb 14, 2011 3:30 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hardest fight I've ever watched

Beautiful tribute, especially this:

What can you do? Don’t look for a comeback. These young bucks and new-fashioned killers are too hungry to let it happen. The new MMA order, it’s here. It’s been here all along. May it be glorious and violent. May it be worth the bitterness of giving up all our old heroes.

I’m nostalgic by nature, so after having faith in Vitor and watching him fall, then watching Fedor fall…I’ll say it was probably the hardest week I’ve ever had being a fan.

I love the sport, but it’s the fighters I become attached to. It’s their lives, their stories, their spirit, and their style that I become invested in. No one else made me such a fan as did Fedor.

One of my friends was having trouble understanding the emotional toll that Fedor’s loss was taking on me. I sent her this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVVrNOQtlzY, and when she’d watched it she told me “I get it. I can only imagine what it must have been like to have followed him as a fan while during all these fights.”

That’s why we love these athletes. What moments and what memories they’ve given us. Let them pass into legend.

by Hollywood19 on Feb 14, 2011 4:18 AM EST reply actions  

Man, exactly.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 14, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I will say-

Fedor could do well in Strikeforce’s 205 lb. division. Fights with Hendo, King Mo, & Feijao all are very intriguing to me still.

You can read my work over @ http://www.headkicklegend.com/

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 14, 2011 4:40 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe this is just the romantic in me

But I don’t want to see Fedor fight at 205. Sure he’d be successful, but he wouldn’t be Fedor.

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by Neil Manich on Feb 14, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

Well, there is a certain appeal to Fedor in that he was the small, chubby guy beating up huge HW’s.

The Fedor fan in me wants to see how he looks at LHW.

You can read my work over @ http://www.headkicklegend.com/

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 15, 2011 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I just want to see Fedor get a decent camp to work with. The jokers he is training with now have got to go.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Feb 18, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I don’t see it happening, though. Maybe if all the talent in Russia consolidated to Stary Oskol, or St. Petersburg, and guys like Fedor, Aleks, Shlemenko, Olenik, etc were to train together, then he would be alright.

I think Fedor would benefit greatly from training at a place like Xtreme Couture. His clinch game, punching, and top game have always been his strengths anyway. And I have confidence that sparring with Randy, Forrest, etc, as well as training under Martinez/ Frazier for boxing and Melansen for grappling, Fedor would be a fighter reborn.

He also would have no problem making 205, which I think is the best option for him. Fuck, I should know- just sit inside a car with the windows closed and you’ll sweat out 20 lbs in a half hour.

You can read my work over @ http://www.headkicklegend.com/

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 19, 2011 3:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Possibly like this. Thar be muscle beneath that flab.

by M.Sphinx on Feb 18, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to go back on the Mega Mass 2000

Reminds me of southpark…

“ARE YOU TIRED OF BEING A 90 LB. WEAKLING!?”

You can read my work over @ http://www.headkicklegend.com/

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 19, 2011 3:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Shows Spider's Greatness

It was hard to watch Fedor get beat down by a fringe top-10 fighter on Saturday night. That being said, it shows how great somebody like the Spider is, that has been fighting for a long time, but is still picking up new skills and improving with every fight. Since the fall of Pride, M-1 has squandered Fedor’s chance to be great NOW not 7 years ago. Since then, Anderson has dispatched of Rich Franklin, Nate Marquardt, Demian Maia, Dan Henderson, Chael Sonnen, Forrest Griffin, and Vitor Belfort. Every fight he seems to be better. Fedor is hampered by trying to win with the same skills that made him the best 7-8 years ago.

by NO82 on Feb 14, 2011 9:20 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

He is a fringe top ten fighter but he is on the rise. His skills have increased a LOT in the last year. I think he has a legit shot at winning this tournament. I think he matches up the best against Overeem due to his size and well roundedness. Did you see him outbox Fedor? That was pretty impressive how he slipped Fedor’s punches and was counter-punching so effectively. Everyone was saying Silva is slow, he didn’t look slow to me in that fight especially for a guy weighing 280+.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Feb 18, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. And because the tournament rounds aren’t happening in such rapid-fire succession, we could expect Silva to actually improve on what he showed us last weekend. I’d definitely pick him in a rematch with Werdum, especially knowing that Silva’s decline in that fight was precipitated by a broken hand. With Overeem I’m not as sure. That guy is still something of a puzzle to me. On the one hand, he looks like a monster. On the other hand, I have no idea how strong his wrestling or sub work is.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 18, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He looked gassed at the end of the 2nd. If I recall, that was part of the reason he lost to Werdum, because he was out of gas late in the fight.

by NO82 on Feb 19, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Overeem is very strong on the ground

Don’t know how his TDD is against a wrestler’s power double, but against clinch-based takedowns he has very high level TDD.

His grappling is very good as well (19 wins via submission), and he had no problems against Werdum on the ground (Overeem took him down 5 or so times to Werdum’s 0) even as a 228 pound fighter 5 years ago, at least until he gassed around the 13 minute mark.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain

by The American Ronin on Feb 19, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I was referring to Silva, not Overeem.

by NO82 on Feb 19, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I realized that as I started replying to you, but my reply was to Squishing Machine's last couple of sentences.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain

by The American Ronin on Feb 19, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was really impressed with Silva, but that doesn’t make him fast. His striking is very effective because he has great timing.

by Hummus5989 on Feb 18, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for reading, guys.

A pleasure as always.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 14, 2011 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

fact check
Saturday night, Fedor Emelianenko, a one-man institution in the world of mixed martial arts, lost for an unprecedented second fight in a row, falling in the first round of Strikeforce’s heavyweight tournament to Antonio Silva.

No, the match was stopped after the horn ended the 2nd.

recced anyway, though.

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by some schmuck in texas on Feb 14, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, I meant that it was the first round of the tournament.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 14, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Edited to read “quarterfinals of the…tournament” to avoid any confusion. Thanks for the heads up.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

dunno why I didn't make that connection

but I appreciate the improved clarity.

http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com

by some schmuck in texas on Feb 14, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Great piece.

been extremely tough watching noguiera, Kid, cro cop, Penn, Sakuraba, Ortiz, Liddell, Wanderlei, Hughes, Franklin, Fedor fade out in the last few years.

But it was also tough seeing the legends of the first generation to fade out with Frye, Randleman, Shamrock, Royce, Miletich, Kerr, sudo retire:(

Just another stage of our sport.

Andre's Posse

by Anr on Feb 14, 2011 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

It's definitely sad

But it’s exciting, too. Guys like Bigfoot and Werdum and Cain and JdS are going to take the sport to newer and more amazing places. As fun as it was to watch Fedor be ahead of his time, now we’re getting to see a new generation of fighters who are taking the sport to an even higher level.

And you know, as much as the romantic image of Fedor was him beating up bigger guys at HW, maybe it would be just as exciting to see what he can do in the 205 division. I know it won’t happen for a number of reasons, but I think his skillset would still make for exciting fights. It’s in seeing guys tested that we really get to see them at their best, and just like when Randy fought Lesnar and realized he just couldn’t deal with the size at HW anymore, I think it’s time for Fedor to have some exciting fights with people his own size. Damn, this is really making me pine to see Randy fight Fedor… I really think now would be the perfect time for that fight.

by Confucius on Feb 18, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree it is extremely exciting time.

Fedor’s at the end of his career, he’s growing slower, timings not as good, reflexes are slowing. He stated he had feelings of retirement after the Rogers match. Now is definitely not the time to move weight classes.

Andre's Posse

by Anr on Feb 18, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Great piece of writing.

I’m sure it sums up what a lot of fans are feeling for an era that’s passed. It certainly does for me anyway. I was there when Fedor got tapped by Werdum – I was shocked for a few days.

by nochapi on Feb 18, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

I got a little misty eyed there at the end.....

Great post sir. Hard to believe this sport Is growing so fast, that old dogs get thrown aside so quickly. It saddened me to think of what once was.

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by lesnarhypetrain on Feb 18, 2011 12:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I wouldn’t count Fedor out yet. He hasnt had a modern MMA camp in ages. He needs to learn from a top camp in the US. If he continues to train like he is, he may as well just retire now.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Feb 18, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent Writing

Best article I’ve read on this site.

by nomomrnicekyle on Feb 18, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Great piece

But you can file me under ‘sentimental knucklehead’ as I will as be 10x more excited for a Wand or Fedor fight. Win or lose its going to be a show.

You are all UFC plants.

by beery_pbr on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Great job

The Future will be Glorious….

by Scribonius Curio on Feb 18, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

A truely inspierd piece of writing

Your piece has a cadence and poetry that I have not heard since the glory days of boxing when Ali brought out the best in sports writers. Keep your pen sharp my friend. The sport is evolving so fast that mma years and dog years would seem to be more or less the same measure.

"This fight will be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I've been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious." Randall "Tex" Cobb

by Craven Moorehead on Feb 18, 2011 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks everybody for your kind words. And thank you, Nick Thomas, for sticking this on the front page.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 18, 2011 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Bravo

My thoughts, captured in a bottle. We’re doomed to suffer these tiny deaths over and again. It’s always tougher in fighting.

"I can be friends with anybody. Man. Woman. Cat. Dog. Fish..... Alien." -Rampage

by Charles Awad on Feb 18, 2011 1:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Awesome post. Until Shogun gets knocked out, I’m never completely disconnected from the PRIDE era.

by medium seen on Feb 18, 2011 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Great read

I’ve been thinking about this over the last year or so, I’m especially attatched to the PRIDE fighters. It’s definitely been a sad couple years for me accepting the fact that my favorites are on their way out…for some reason none of these new bloods capture my attention attention like the old guard…I like Cain, JDS, and Jon Jones, but like someone above posted, I just don’t get that excited feeling with the new guys. Hopefully there’s someone on the horizon that will blow me away and get me excited again.

by ultimoshogun on Feb 18, 2011 1:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Its the same excited feeling I get when I watch Anderson fight

And I know what you mean. When Silva’s time is done I dunno if ill have the same passion for MMA as I do now. You get so enticed by one or a select few of fighters, they grow on you and you care for them and want to see them succeed like they are your own flesh and blood or family and then finally when their short stay is over you pray that their efforts and time and blood that they have given will not be lost in the annals of time. You fear the future MMA fans talking about how the stars of their time would demolish the old rickety stars of yesteryear and you want so much to just say “You little punk if you could only see what ive seen.” It happens unfortunately. I’ve never been a Fedor fan before but last Saturday when he said he thought it was time to hang it up I felt an inner voice inside of me screaming No please dont. =\

by Spider_Vemon on Feb 18, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Logged in just to give kudos.

Great read, man. Would love to see more of your stuff get bumped to the front.

by robotplague on Feb 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

You're inhumanly good at stuff like this. Kudos, Sir.

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by Damon O. on Feb 18, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks, man. And kudos to you for Da Supafriendz love.

"You son of a bitch, give me my plunger back."
- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck

by Rainer Lee on Feb 18, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Leave it to them to spill da beans

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by Damon O. on Feb 19, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I read that entire piece in the voice of Tom Brokaw, great writing.

by DirtyML on Feb 18, 2011 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

This sums up my feelings over the past

several years perfectly. Watching Sakuraba continue, Wandy lose, Chuck get KTFO and Nog lose his chin has been painful to watch. Maybe Heath knew something no one else did.

The old school fighters haven’t completely disappeared or lost relevance. Shogun is holding the LHW title, Diaz is getting better by the day (he’s only 27) and I think we might hear from Rampage one more time before it’s all said and done.

Those of us lucky enough to follow and see these fighters back in their prime have been given a great gift. And for that I thank them. And for this incredible piece, I thank you.

by Riney on Feb 18, 2011 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

Every rec you get

you deserve.

Great job Squish.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Feb 18, 2011 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

Eladir

Good article. Imo though the first great generation were fighters like Igor Vovchanchyn, Rickson Gracie, Royce Gracie, Bas Rutten, Kerr etc. Fedor is one of the last of the 2nd generation (Nogueira, Sakuraba, Wanderlei etc.)

by Eladir on Feb 19, 2011 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

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