Bloody Elbow Radio - Episode 2: Strikeforce 'Fedor vs. Silva' Review
by Matt Bishop on Feb 13, 2011 12:11 AM EST
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Join Matt Bishop and Forrest Lynn live following the conclusion of "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Silva" at midnight ET/9 p.m. PT to review the show, which is headlined by Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix quarterfinal bouts between Fedor Emelianenko and Antonio Silva and Andrei Arlovski and Sergei Kharitonov.
Matt and Forrest also expect to be joined by Bloody Elbow's Jonathan Snowden and Mike Fagan and SB Nation's Luke Thomas will check in from IZOD Center with the inside perspective from the venue. We also are scheduled to be joined by HDNet announcer Michael Schiavello, who called the preliminary bouts on HDNet. We'll also be joined by rising heavyweight Chris "Beast Boy" Barnett, who will provide a look at the night's fights from a fighter's prospective. We'll also chat with him about his upcoming future.
We'll review all the fights that make air and talk in full about the first night of the Heavyweight Grand Prix from all perspectives.
Want to get in touch with the BE Radio crew? Here's how you can do so:
Phone: (347) 202-0934
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For those calling in, you will first be picked up by our producer who will take your information and get what you want to talk about. You will then be queued. We will try to get to everyone as soon as we can. We ask that you call in around the time of the topic you want to discuss.
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At izod waiting to get in there's a lot of ppl here that were camped out for a bit
by Papercut Elbow on Feb 12, 2011 6:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Call in after the event to share the live experience!
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 12, 2011 6:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bloody Elbow Radio
You guys are doing it big.Head to the arena now it’s going to be a great show.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Feb 12, 2011 6:41 PM EST reply actions
Won’t be able to participate as much in the comments tonight since I’ll be doing write ups and what not, but I WILL be listening. I’m expecting a fun show, should be plenty to talk about.
Kinda worried about Fedor’s fight. Would be a bummer if Silva pulled the upset, I like Bigfoot and all, but with Fedor making what appears to be his final tour of the sport, I’d like to see him at least get to fight Overeem, or Werdum again.
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by Matt Bishop on Feb 12, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
that's going to be a taped segment
Wish I could be here for this, but a) wasn’t invited :) and b) going to do a live aftershow with Ryan for Fightlinker.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 13, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Question for the radio hosts
Do you think Fedor still has it physically but his fighting spirit (his mental side) is pretty much gone?
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Yay I've been mentioned on radio!
This is 2nd to the time Eddie Mustafa Muhammad said hi to me and my family on live TV.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
The first round was thrilling, but that second round was depressing as hell.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
Awful. Tough to watch. It was like watching your Dad getting beat up!
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I was watching it with my Dad, and we just sat there in silence for the last 5 minutes of that fight.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Fedor’s accomplished great things, I hope he’s done, as weird as that sounds. No need to run your career into the dirt or beat around the bush. Bubba the caller summed that up pretty good.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 13, 2011 12:12 AM EST reply actions
Yeah.
Fedor didn’t look good at all in there. Think he’s done, if not physically then mentally.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t say all that, he fought in the first round like a man who came to throw down. But he’s been vocal about not being attached to fighting anymore, and I think that’s perfectly fine.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 13, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
He fought wild and sloppy, worse than usual.
Winging punches that missed by a mile, ground game looked rudimentary, just doesn’t seem like he trained real hard for this fight.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The way he lost both fights were concerning
He got careless with a dangerous BJJ black belt after rocking him, and against Silva he arguably lost in the stand-up and got tooled on the ground by a bigger and younger guy.
The Fedor aura just…..eroded tonight in 10 minutes of fighting.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Who is more depressed:
Scott Coker or Vadim Finkelstein
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions
Vadim.
Did you see him when Fedor was saying he wanted to retire? He wouldn’t take his hand off his face. Least they got their TV deal out of it.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Did Showtime finally sign of on that deal to put M-1 shows on?
I remember them saying it was close but last I remember is they still had a few details to work out.
Just BE.
If not, that blows for M-1.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Am i the only asshole who wanted
the fight to go on into the third round even with Fedor’s eye swollen shut?
Fedor has shown so many times his ability to come back from adversity. I just wish he had a chance to pull off something amazing once again
no, I was with ya.
I just kept saying “no worse than Koscheck,” though I’m not sure that’s a great argument…
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Not this time.
Fight didn’t even look competitive honestly. No need for him to take unnecessary punishment.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Its Fedor
The guy could make it competitive at any moment. It was amazing to me that he survived the 2nd round, and since he survived that round i wanted it to continue but i completeley agree with why it was stopped.
I just wanted one more amazing moment out of fedor and i feel he could’ve pulled it off even with his eye swollen shut.
Postfight I am glad it got called because he could’ve wound up with an even more severe beating messing him up longterm
I wanted the fight to continue as well
Silva was up on two of the three judge’s scorecards so unless Fedor got the stoppage the best he could’ve hoped for was a split draw which I think would lead us to the “4th judge”.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Ted Williams is an MMA fan
Or if BE can hire him to be the BE Radio Voiceover. At that point BE can just take over the damn world.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
When the toughest guy...
who you’re sparring against in a gym with a giant mural of yourself in a wall is Guran Gugenishvili, the sports gonna pass you by. He just refused to adapt. It worked for awhile on suspect competition and his natural talent alone, but it would eventually wear out. Great run. Greates of All Time.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:20 AM EST reply actions
It’s not a matter of the sport catching up with Fedor. It has more to do with him being 34 years old and slowing down.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
yeah, but he made no efforts to train with better guys.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Think you're placing too much weight on importance of camp.
Rampage still doesn’t train with any big names and just beat Machida.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
and you were impressed with him in that fight?
Camps are pretty important- not the biggest piece, but a significant one nonetheless. You need to go against guys as good/better than you to improve. At the very least, you can’t say that it’s more desirable to train with low level partners than high.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
It matters to an extent, but I think
that you’re placing faaaaar too much weight on its impact. Fedor didn’t lose because he didn’t go to Greg Jackson’s.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
you're right...
but would it have hurt?
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
and actually, I disagree that I'm placing too much weight on camp...
Great camps and the fighters they produce are a huge part of the culture of MMA- Gracie vs. Luta Livre, Chute Box vs. BTT, Jacksons vs. AKA- I’m not saying it’s the only thing, but you can’t deny it’s important.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Now you're arguing something else entirely.
It’s important, yes. It is not the reason Fedor lost.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Fedor lost because Big Foot was better than him tonight. But why was Big Foot better tonight? Is it because Big Foot has a better training camp and put together a good game plan to beat Fedor?
Coaches that help formulate a good game plan and having good training partners to drill the game plan are important.
Just BE.
So is motivation.
Bigfoot had a ton of it. Doesn’t look like Fedor did.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
So Fedor’s camp couldn’t motivate him for the fight and Big Foot’s camp did a tremendous job of getting him motivated for the fight.
Just BE.
Motivation is very much a personal thing.
Like I said, you guys are overstating the value of a camp here. Fedor didn’t lose because of his camp.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
No I don't think we are.
We are just stating that his camps are playing a part in his losses. We aren’t stating his camps are the only reason he lost. There is probably a few reason why he lost. Number one being Big Foot was a better fighter tonight.
Just BE.
he didn't lose solely because of it...
when guys get old, they often have to train harder to mitigate as many adverse effects of their aging as possible. It helps some more than others, and it won’t help some at all, but it’s obvious that Fedor didn’t even attempt to do any of that.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Oh crap I better turn my webcam off.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Thought it might be you so I didn't want to act like an asshole.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone else think the callers sound clearer than the three hosts?
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
by Mike Fagan on Feb 13, 2011 12:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 13, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Yes.
I have no idea who the hosts are sometimes.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Snowden sounds like he’s calling from the broom closet.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, at least he didn’t come out while on the air.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Paging
R. Kelly
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry but this guy's voice is hilarious as hell
And reminds me of the stuttering lawyer from My Cousin Vinny.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Good call.
You know it’s probably a user right? Hmm…
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Best part of tonight.
I hope I never see that parasitic logo again.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 13, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Bravo for this guy having a hard core southern accent but shrugging off stereotypes and sounding quite informed and eloquent! I’m a Yankee but grew up in the south, people look at me funny when I talk at family reunions. lol
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST reply actions
I thought he was making good points.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I had a great time watching the fights with all yall!
It was sad to see Fedor get hamered like a railroad spike but Tan Dan absolutely made the right call. There is no reason Fedor should have gone out for that 3rd round and if he did it was a serious risk to his well being. I hope Fedor’s fans don’t blame this all on Dan but I am certain they will.
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:27 AM EST reply actions
See
I told ya.
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I thought she had one of the best calls so far tonight.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
No.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:28 AM EST reply actions
Nononononono.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I am never going to call into this radio show. I don’t want to get roasted in the comments section.
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:28 AM EST reply actions
We can just roast you based on your typing, we don’t need to hear your lisp.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
a lisp!?!?!
Why do u suspect a lisp?
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
MothtDiobolicalHather
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
by Tim Burke on Feb 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
big LOL
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
We will never be as bad as II SMASH II
He is the best (worst) caller in mma radio history.
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me “ma’am”.
The Machiavellian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 13, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
That’s a sig.
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Chicken. Let the hatred feed you.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking of calling in using an alias...of my alias
How does Montel Fistoph sound?
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Feb 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
like a porn name
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
perfect
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Feb 13, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Antonio Silva is going to get brutally KO’ed by Alistair Overeem with a quickness. Are we all forgetting that he lost a 10-8 round to Mike Kyle 2 months ago?
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
No.
It’s been repeated about a hundred times in the past weak alone. Mostly as reasoning for Fedor winning.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
weak = week
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Montreal doctor would have let Fedor come out for the 3rd.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
by Tim Burke on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is awesome.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
This is golden…
Twitter me @kkelchner621
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 AM EST reply actions
Snowden? Too controversial? Whaaaaa?
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST reply actions
No man I have to say you have some good one-liners.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I mean my phone line? Of course my content was tremendous! :)
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You sounded muttled.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Good call on Fedor's trainer.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions
Roseanne bar threw in a maybe? Who’da thunk it?
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
by Tim Burke on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You’re on fire tonight.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Judging from her expressions on the Helwani show, she's probably thrilled he's retiring.
No more translating.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the people calling in! This is great!
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 13, 2011 12:33 AM EST reply actions
What a week. Neil is taken off the show, and Fedor retires.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
It was 7 days ago Neil. You should know this.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Leave the memories alone Neil.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Fagan is in
So I have to ask what did you think of the Showtime announcing tonight? For some reason it felt exactly like “just another broadcast”. The worst part for me beyond Gus Johnson’s terrible Fedor interview was Mauro asking Shamrock if Fedor could cut to 205, and he didn’t answer the first time but the 2nd time Frank said “I don’t know” and proceeded to look for Silva’s facial expression.
For what it’s worth, this was not a good broadcast for such an historic night in which two fighters could’ve possibly bowed out tonight.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
I thought the announcing was positively awful.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
What broadcast were you watching Jonathan?
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Are you being sarcastic?
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
by Tim Burke on Feb 13, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mauro was actually decent
Gus and Frank were beyond worthless tonight.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
I never shook my head and said “what the hell?”
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. I did when they all butchered Kharitonov. Or when Frank said that Werdum had beat 6 out of the 7 guys in the tourney??
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
Did you have it on mute Jonathan?
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, the latter made me shake my head.
I don’t expect anything from Gus, so whatever.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
The Mauro/Frank 205 question banter was cringeworthy
It wasn’t as much “what the hell” as much as Gus in particular was so subdued and let Mauro do all the talking. Not that it’s a bad thing but at that point what is Gus’ purpose in the booth?
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
dude...
you have a very personal and idiosynchratic ability not to get annoyed by anything the Strikeforce announcers say, but trust us on this, you’re very much in the minority. You didn’t shake your head at the Christina Aguilera line?!
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I enjoy Mauro’s puns just to see what he will say next.
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 13, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Shamrock was good for once.
/ducks
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
No. Just no.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
He was funny a few times.
Mauro: “Why did he do that?”
Shamrock: “Because he’s Fedor. He can do whatever he wants.”
Made me laugh.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
FS: “He’s Fedor, he can do whatever he wants” X 2, with the same inflection, delivery and timing. I think he might have genuinely forgot that he said it the 1st time.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
You ducked right into a gigantic uppercut
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
The fact that you have these songs lined up is scary.
Still a Beer Monster.
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They’re staples from the Lights Out Radio days.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
danawhite
M1 = M done! What did I tell you Vadummy!!
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions
Dana White's Twitter: M1 = M done! What did I tell you Vadummy!!
Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.
In mma guy. You’re going to tell me Hung Man Choi is skilled at mma? His inability to do anything on the ground proves otherwise.
excellent typo dude.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
His name is Hong Man Choi, not Hung Man. That’s what they’re referring to.
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aka
The guy who beat a karate pants clad Jose Canseco.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, lol. I didn’t even catch that. My bad. I missed the sarcasm, I missed the type, my god I’m off tonight.
It’s all good. At least you don’t have to retire. : )
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by Tim Burke on Feb 13, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hung Man Choi would be skilled at pornography
Not MMA.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I'm still trying to figure out whether Choi or Silva has a bigger chin
Somebody find me a yard stick!
Silva by a mile.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously the most pressing question:
who in the fucking Showtime makeup room let Gus Johnson go on television like that?
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Feb 13, 2011 12:40 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
PURPLE LIPSTICK
COME ON
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 13, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
he looked like he laid his face on Bob Ross' easel.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
MY EYES!
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
He looks more and more femine with every broadcast.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
He was going for this look
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Any gifs of the fights yet?
I missed them all.
The Machiavellian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST reply actions
http://ironforgesiron.com/2011/02/strikeforce-fedor-vs-silva-teh-gifs/
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Also, follow me on Twitter @DeoWade
Girlfriend wanted to do…things…
The Machiavellian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 13, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
i see
you were in the middle of someone. Sometimes these things happen in MMA
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha!
Meet me on Monsta Island. Where the girls look good and the MC's be Wildin'.
Also, follow me on Twitter @DeoWade
Fuck your sig.
The Machiavellian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 13, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
:)
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That's great.
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Bloody Elbow // "Mongo only pawn in game of life." - Mongo
by Richard Wade on Feb 13, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
Vunderbar.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 13, 2011 6:46 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
Rec’d for making me laugh and for the new sig…
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by RearNakedChoker on Feb 13, 2011 4:57 AM EST up reply actions
I was very impressed by Sam Oropeza and John Cholish on the SF Prelims tonight.
Do you see them as prospects who could make the step up in competition to be on a SF Challengers card soon?
Fedor is tougher than $2 caviar
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST reply actions
Also, Fedor looked like he had a bad back today.
Not trying to create an excuse or say he did have a bad back, since I’m sure somebody will accuse me of being a loon creating some new narrative. He fought like he had a back injury, and since I can only assume he was healthy. that means he got really fucking old really fucking fast.
Godspeed, Fyodor. Please don’t go the Shamrock/Pulver route…
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
yep.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! This Guy!
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:44 AM EST reply actions
*Slams head against wall*
Just because Fedor has pulled great comebacks from year’s past does not mean he can do it forever.
And apparently someone has been shot during the call.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Waste Fedor v. The Reem in the Quarters?!?!?!
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 12:47 AM EST reply actions
I disagree with The Voice.
I don’t like changing bookings after the fact because the favorite lost. It means that the original fight would not have been competitive. I want to see the Fedor who fought Tim Sylvia, Cro Cop, or Big Nog vs.Alistair. But if Fedor gets beaten that handily by Bigfoot Silva today, then I don’t wish he was fighting a beast like Overeem instead on the same day.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I don’t remember people being quite so impressed with Big Foot Silva before this fight. From the talk about Silva now it seems like a lot more people should have seen this coming.
Just BE.
He just put on the performance of his career. He mentioned he trained his ass off, he really earned this one and he showed a great improvement.
It just seemed like the discussion immediately became Big Foot Silva being a top fighter with great skills after the fight more so than that Fedor has slipped and isn’t a top fighter anymore.
It makes me wonder what the next HW rankings are going to look like. Is Fedor going to drop only 1 or 2 spots and Big Foot Silva jump up into the top 5 or will Fedor drop to about 10 and Big Foot Silva move up a couple spots?
Just BE.
Schiavello’s fascinating to listen to when it comes to analysis. He’s flawless.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
truf.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, I’m not really a radio-listening type person but he’s got me hooked right now. Could listen to him talk about MMA/K1 for hours.
Same here. I’ve listened to 3 of these podcast thingys ever. Luke and Nate in Nate’s living room, the first BE Radio, and this. So far so good. Having guys like Shiavello on this is fucking awesome for them. Props to them.
Did he just say he was a big fan of Fagan though? Cred. LOST.
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ASK WAND TO SAY “The Big Kabosh!!!!”
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
I was going to blow up twitter…but they already filmed it.
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Shit on a stick.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
Bizarro Phil
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
shit.....
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
I GREATLY RESPECT MY OPPONENT, HE'S ONE OF THE BEST EVAH!
YEAH! I’M THE GENTLEMAN!
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Frank Baroni shakes the hand of the referee after a controversial stoppage.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Can you guys look into another system besides phones?
I love the content of the discussion, I just feel that the quality of the sound is a little lacking.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:04 AM EST reply actions
Not a whole lot else
Skype sounds great, but it flakes out often. Also, Blogtalk Radio automatically dumbs things down to save on their VOIP bandwidth, so at the end of the day, even if we had people in the same room (and sometimes we do) doing it, it wouldn’t sound too hot. It’s the trade-off between being able to take phone calls live, and having good quality.
Sergei has the best traditional-style boxing in the tournament. (not saying he’ll win, just stating that one point)
Luke is on
Please no “touching dicks” and “gay bar” discussions tonight please.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Not with a broken orbital bone
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
FFS Coker
I honestly believe you do not need Fedor to make this tournament successful.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Arlovski did look good
But so did Liddell against Franklin.
When your chin is gone it is GONE.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
You can’t train ability to absorb punishment and keep fighting. The heavy majority of people don’t have it.
Chris Leben will probably be out of the UFC soon then
Because it’s inevitable he ends up the same way.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
I disagree.
You can be conditioned to take beat downs, and keep firing. Taking knockout shots is another thing, you either have a “chin”, or you don’t.
Silva’s base was excellent tonight.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
I was thinking about this tonight, and wanted to know
who teaches the ground striking at ATT? Thiago Silva and Antonio Silva are absurdly murderous from mount and have great passes to get there. Those guys are just violent with their GNP.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I have no idea but you are right, man. They got some powerful GnP down there.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Feb 13, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Am I wrong for thinking Luke’s “hey I’ve seen him in person now, no way he’s on roids” statement is kinda…off?
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I thought Overeem looked signifigantly smaller on the broadcast. Less heavy through the chest and his biceps looked smaller as well.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
I’ve seen Chael Sonnen in person. No way dude has ever taken a steroid. He sold me some real estate. Straight up, honest guy.
by Rich Wyatt on Feb 13, 2011 1:18 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Dude, I think you actually met a Mexican.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Feb 13, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But the question is: Who here would pay money to see her box? Ziiiingg!
by Rich Wyatt on Feb 13, 2011 1:21 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
When Luke talks I feel like he resembles Dana White more than Matt Brown. What a pottymouth.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
I'm a big fan of using any vocabulary to get your point across
Bad words or not. I also think that there’s a time and place for it, although that place may or may not be on a radio show.
by -Neil- on Feb 13, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s what she said.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
by Brian Mayes on Feb 13, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
Good luck getting the real shit, Luke. I still have original Four Loko’s stashed in my fridge.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Ha!
I have 2 watermelon, 2 lemon lime, 2 grape, and one Red of the good shit.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I nearly killed myself with those bastards. Never again.
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Pro-tip:
Do not combine 3 of them with Nyquil. Even if you’re a little stuffed up and think it’s totally a good idea at the time because it will counteract the caffeine when you’re trying to sleep. Do not fucking do that at any fucking cost. Especially not if you’ve had a ton of rum too.
I cannot stress this enough…
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I had 4. And 15 Coors Lights. And a whirlpool. And a blackout. Thank god there was a girl there. Yeah.
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I was going to say, if you can get your dick even halfway working at that point...
I’ve combined Brazilian versions of 5-hour energy (but better) with vodka in a shot. If that’s legal, Four Loko should be too. Also, Illy espresso (or local roasts) with Baileys. Fuck you FDA, I will find a way to get absurdly fucked up.
I actually talked to Matt Roth when he was still thisredengine about doing a post comparing MMA to Four Loko on UD. The concept was there but, fittingly, I got too drunk and kept forgetting to write it. Shit.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Yeah, caffine and liquor is nothing new
Red Bull and vodka? How about an effing rum and Coke? It’s nothing new, and the FDA should get a clue.
LOL
They have these things in Canada called Revs. They’re super tame compared to any of that shit, just your average vodka energy drink, but they taste like candy and I fucking love them. They come in 4 packs. I buy 16 and stay up for 2 days. I don’t know if I’m trying to make up for never doing any type of drugs, but it’s still pretty stupid. And fun. And awesome.
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You’ll probably be underwhelmed. Canadian beer should be enough to get ya effed up.
Still a Beer Monster.
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I've got access to that, being just north of Detroit
But I can’t stand beer in general. Unfortunately, I didn’t get a chance at the 4 Loko before it was outlawed.
Heh, I had to spend a week in Port Huron a couple of years ago. Wow.
Yeah you probably have better stuff down there. Can you get Sparks there? Those are ghetto fabulous.
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Port Huron? That's unfortunate.
Maybe. I’m a fan of juice, or semi-juice (lemonaide, etc) with vodka/rum/etc. I try not to look too classless though, like the peeps double fisting double-deuces of Smirnoff Ice, or something.
Yeah you wouldn’t like Sparks then. They’re malt liquor things that taste like orange and failure. Try and grab some Revs up here though one time, you might like them. Or think I’m really strange. One or the other.
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Couldn't hurt to try
I’ll be hitting up the Duty Free shop on the way home though, FO SHO. Thanks for the suggestion!
Meh
If you thought that joke was awkward, you probably haven’t spent much time talking to real people. Either way, it certainly wasn’t bad enough to cause Matt “awful humor” Bishop to stall out.
It was fairly silent
Although it could just be my computer spazzing, which would be awkward.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Might've been
But like you said, I think the flow got interrupted. My point still stands though, Matt is generally very quick on the draw, and is rarely unsettled by anything, let alone a lame joke.
I think it's a little bit of both
Fedor is past it but Silva is living up to his potential. That dude is a badass and decline or not Fedor got dominated.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Guys,
Could it be argued that being the best Heavyweight of all time in MMA is the weakest of the divisions to be the greatest in?
No.
And I’d argue middleweight is the weakest of the MMA divisions.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
HW was prestigious
It’s a complete joke now and it’s lacking talent.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Now, but not historically. When people talk about all time greats in boxing, HWs usually come up. When talking about the greatest of all time in MMA, does heavyweight play as big a role as it does in boxing?
I would say no (essentially I agree)
But the other big thing here is when heavyweight was at its peak the majority of the best HW fighters were in Japan in PRIDE.
If all of the Fedor/CroCop and CroCop/Nog fights happened in the UFC, I think HW would be more recognized.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Yea, that makes sense. I think it is interesting when comparing across divisions. People seem to agree that Chuck Lidell is the best 205er ever. I like to compare where Fedor stands next to guys like that, maybe Matt Hughes too. The sport is so young it makes it hard to compare these guys with Anderson and GSP who are still in their prime.
Yes.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 13, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
If it's out of the top ten
It doesn’t really matter. Talking about who is #17, and who is #14 is like arguing who drinks fancier bottled water.
AA at 17 was and is way too high.
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Bloody Elbow // "Mongo only pawn in game of life." - Mongo
by Richard Wade on Feb 13, 2011 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
My rankings:
Cain Velasquez
Junior Dos Santos
Fabricio Werdum
Brock Lesnar
Bigfoot Silva
Carwin
Overeem
Fedor
Keeping Junior at 5 or lower is insane. He fairly recently KO’d the fuck out of Werdum, plus carved a trail of death through all he’s been matched up with. Not a moment of weakness in the UFC yet. I cannot fathom why people keep under-ranking him.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
But but but Werdum was overconfident and stuff
He was out-of-shape!
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
And he beat Stefan Struve, who is a gangly mofo
Then Cro-Cop and he’s past it, then Gilbert Yvel who is a can, then Gabe Gonzaga who is now retired, then Roy Nelson who is fat.
He’s beaten no one good!!!!! Obviously. ;)
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
For real, man.
Werdum is a much bigger win that Mir in my mind, and neither Brock nor Carwin have bigger wins than Mir. Unless Brock’s win over Carwin is great because Carwin’s record over Mir.
I’ll give Cain credit for totally dominating Nog and Brock. Crazy how he did that. But Junior can only be one spot behind him. The only way that they aren’t 1 and 2 in my mind is if you stick to the “beat the man to be the man” mentality and Werdum is number one with those two directly behind him.
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-Randall Munroe
Are you a Fedor fan?
That was really hard to watch tonight- you’d want to see more?
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Why can’t Fedor just retire and call it quits?
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
I disagree totally.
Werdum > Big Foot Why would Fedor want that fight? Also, I don’t know if you heard it but one of the guys on the show said that Russian speakers were saying that Fedor used more definite language than the translators. He ain’t coming back- let go.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying he should fight Overeem.
But maybe he could get down to LHW or something. I guess I’m just sad because I will always want more of Fedor.
Do you want more of the Fedor from tonight?
I’m a huge Fedor fan, and I have no interest in ever seeing him again, except maybe against Couture- I’d still love to see that fight, but Fedor ain’t coming back.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
My love of Fedor
Is not about him being invincible. Finally he went up against guys who were BOTH bigger than him and skilled enough not to get facerolled by his speed and technique.
Honestly, if he could (and would, and I know he won’t so I’ll preemptively rain on my own parade) make LHW I think he could have amazing fights.
if he were committed and 5 years younger he would make it...
but not now. He never cut weight-was always a heavy. It’s not like he wrestled or has any experience with cutting at any level, but he definitely has the frame of a 205’er.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
Does the legitimacy of the tourney take any hit due to 2 guys, including the odds-on favorite to win the whole thing, getting straight up retired in the 1st round? I’m not a Strikeforce hater, but that seems to be about the worst possible outcome for tonight for Strikeforce and Showtime.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:35 AM EST reply actions
I don't think so.
Not yet at least. The worst case scenario was a Werdum vs. Arlovski rematch in the final. Werdum vs. Bigfoot won’t be a great fight if he gets past Alistair, but the winner vs. Barnett or Kharitonov is a solid Showtime card. Ruins a PPV final though. As long as it isn’t Rogers vs. Werdum, I think there’s still a great semi-and finale to this.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
This hurts them
But as long as Overeem gets through Werdum and Silva, and Barnett doesn’t win the whole thing, I think the tournament will fare just fine.
Ultimately, a fight like say
Silva v. Kharitonov has an incredibly limited appeal. There are certainly some less then ideal possible outcomes to this tourney, moreso given tonight’s results.
James Toney lasted longer than 30 seconds once his back touched the matt, so there’s that.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
Good call on the RINGS reference… I was picturing the match as a grainy VHS tape. That neck crank was more ghetto than Cro Cop’s RNC of Barry.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:38 AM EST reply actions
Neil just threw out his ear peice and walked away.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
I'm a professional, and would never do that during such a prestigious show
But rest assured that I’m going to find, and kick a puppy after the show as a direct result.
Will you guys do the shows live for mid-week events
Like UFC on Versus 3 on March 3rd?
I’m fading fast and will soon be in an Andrei Arlovski for the next 10 hours. Good night all and love the show
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Andrei Arlovski state*
If I’m in an Andrei Arlovski I’ve probably lost a bet and was forced into doing it for the amusement of the devil.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Bishop-
you’re saying the name right- thanks for taking my statements.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:43 AM EST reply actions
No problem! I will continue to say that every time I say that, though. Haha.
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i cant stand ppl saying i told u so or fedor never was anything.
ppl in the states need to look up fedor’s career bc honestly ppl are hating on fedor for what? bc they dont think he is good? fedor is a average size dude who dominated the sport for yrs. and every1 is looking at his last 2 fights and saying i told u he fought no1 for yrs. he is number1 for nothing.
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by Tim Burke on Feb 13, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You sound like Rich Franklin
Why I never joined a frat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-KNVrZaN8M
"Don’t quote old fucks to me" – Brent Brookhouse
"A samurai would bite your cock off if you tried that shit on the battlefield." - Kid Nate
ABC has talked to athletic commissions advising them not to sanction Barnett fight. That’s the word I’ve been hearing.
Nothing says class and grace like a broken face.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:56 AM EST reply actions
Nothing says class and grace like a broken face and NOT QUIT
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Cigano, it is your time to avenge your master's loss!
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no doubt...
shuttling between mount and back mount and getting out of that arm triangle were incredible.
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
shuttling between mount and back mount and getting out of that arm triangle were incredible AND try to lock up an ankle lock
Official Machida Nuthugger.
Cigano, it is your time to avenge your master's loss!
Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.
It’s hard to tell. If you’re looking to end a fight quickly though, a leglock is certainly your best bet.
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 13, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
He'll go on to a lucrative Russian Orthodox singing career
by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 13, 2011 1:56 AM EST reply actions
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Official Machida Nuthugger.
Cigano, it is your time to avenge your master's loss!
Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.
This was the soundtrack to my night of post-fight wrap ups, and it was great. Schiavello and Luke were great additions. Always love Luke’s cut and dry take on things, great straightforward look at the event. Bravo on the show again, look forward to Thursday.
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