Bloody Elbow Radio: Mike Brown, Kevin Iole, and More

This week marked the debut of Bloody Elbow Radio, our new podcast. We plan on doing the show twice a week, on Thursdays at 4 PM EST and immediately following any event of note. Thanks for all your great feedback. Make sure you check us out Saturday after the Strikeforce show on Showtime to discuss the exciting new Heavyweight Grand Prix.
It's never too late to check out our first show either.
Direct link: episode-1-strikeforcem-
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Our first two guests, former WEC champ Mike Brown and Yahoo's Kevin Iole were both great.
Mike Brown on his relationship with the fans:
Some people are front runners. They love whoever's the champ. Whoever is just beating the hell out of everybody. But it's cool when you have a bunch of losses and you read the forums and see people going 'I don't care man, he's still one of me and my friend's favorite fighters.' And I don't even know the guys. That's cool man. I've lost four out of six and this guy still really likes me as a fighter.
...It's funny you know. Sometimes people will freak out. You see all types. Some people will kind of elbow each other and kind of look at you. 'Hey, hey, there's that guy. Mike Brown. Look.' But some people will come up and go 'Holy sh*t, oh my god, it's f*cking you, you're right here.' That's pretty neat. I've been in Wal Mart and a little kid was jumping up and down like I'm a cartoon character or something. It's pretty neat.
Kevin Iole on Yushin Okami's missed opportunity:
"I think there's more interesting fights for Anderson Silva at 205 pounds, I don't think there's any question about that. But Anderson does not want to move and he's pretty adamant that he's not going to move and given the fact he's the champion at 185 and he can make the weight, I think it's very hard for the UFC to force him to go if he doesn't want to. I'm in favor of the fight. I feel badly on a personal level for Yushin Okami, but on a professional level, I feel zero for him because Yushin Okami is not an exciting fighter, number one. I don't say that to denigrate him at all, but it's not like he's been on some sort of huge roll. He lost to Chael Sonnen not that long ago. He's had some good wins, but this is a business. Is there anybody that's going to sit there and say Yushin Okami is more of a threat to beat Anderson Silva than Georges St. Pierre? I just don't see that being the case. If it was a totally undeserved guy getting the shot ahead of him, then I'd say, 'OK, he has an argument,' or if you're bringing in someone from outside the UFC, Jorge Santiago, who's a good fighter. You bring him in and say, 'we're putting him in with Anderson Silva ahead of Yushin Okami,' then I think Yushin Okami and his fans have a complaint. But you're putting in a guy who is, at the very worst, is No. 3 pound-for-pound in the world, a guy that hasn't lost in eight consecutive fights, a guy who has won every round of those fights. It's pretty hard to make an argument unless you're a diehard Okami fan and a anti-St. Pierre fan that Okami's getting screwed. I think it's part of the business. Part of the business is making it so people want to see you. Different people do it in different ways and Yushin hasn't connected with the fans with his personality, he doesn't speak English very well if at all and his fights haven't been exciting. ... You have to, as a professional athlete, make a case for yourself. That's why some people make more money than others. In Yushin's case, he's going to have to take a backseat. The timing's bad for him."
The guys also took a look at the Strikeforce Grand Prix and we debuted the "Subo versus Snowden" segment to wild enthusiasm. We look forward to growing and getting better each week. Feel free to leave critiques in the comments.
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Coming next week. I’ve been ill.
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 11, 2011 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Okami gets treated like Jon Fitch pretty much.
Even if Jon Fitch beats BJ decisively, he still won’t get a shot next. It happens I guess
With Fitch it depends
I havent heard anything on if GSP is planning to vacate if he beats Shields and move to 185 full time. We havent really herad much from GSP regarding the GSP/Silva superfight at least not recently.
If GSP wins and vacates I’m guessing the Penn/Fitch winner gets either Condit or maybe the Sanchez/Kampmann winner for the belt. (Didnt include Shields or Koscheck because Koscheck just lost and if GSP vacates it means Shields just lost.)
I would still like to see a fight.
Anything can happen in a fight. I doubt GSP would just lay of Sanchez for five rounds. He would probably win but it would be an exciting fight.
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by pdl on Feb 11, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
A good futurama reference will always get a rec out of me.
"Who are you and how the hell did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith... and i'm a locksmith."
no i was lying
"Who are you and how the hell did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith... and i'm a locksmith."
by Goonisis on Feb 11, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he wants one for the screen name/avatar.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Acting as your unofficial agent, I’d advice you to just say “Hey Vern” and move on instead.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve just had a chance to listen to the first 20 minutes or so while I was cooking earlier today, sounded good. I appreciate the option of mp3 download in addition to streaming, good for those of us in other time zones. I will probably make a habit of listening to the shows while working my dead end zombie office job (because why the hell not).
Download failed
On my android… Anyone know why?
by cmons on Feb 11, 2011 4:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hmm 404 error on the DL link
But embedded player now working fine.. Just wanted the mp3 so I could listen while doing other things
by cmons on Feb 11, 2011 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting. Works fine for me. I’m not quite sure what the issue is.
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Man LOLle annoys me in a special way. Who the hell at MW deserves the fight against AS if Okami does not? I mean really name a few, Chael has all his legal issues….maybe Nate M but he would prob need to win a couple in a row before the UFC would even consider it.
LOLle always seems to have opinions that not many other fans or media people do….and it’s because most times he is wrong or sounds uneducated about the sport he is covering.
Check Kevin ioles twitter
Lol I told him I didn’t like him as an mma journalist n he should stick to boxing. He replies by saying “you’re a real class act, thanks”. What a douchebag
Twitter.com/bubski27
Twitter.com/KevinI
dana white follows ME on twitter...and i flew to ufc 124 with wanderlei silva.....who the hell are you?
by bubski27 on Feb 11, 2011 8:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, what a tool
A guy in the public eye like him really should’ve dropped a racial epithet, then told you to eff off. Who does he think he is!
So, unless you a diehard Okami fan and hate St Pierre, “it’s a business” and there is no argument to be made for Okami getting his title shot. Not even the title shot he won in an official eliminator match (according to the UFC)? This is one of those instances where it seems that Kevin Iole is repeating everything Dana told him as though it was his own opinion.
I don’t think any of Okami’s fights since the Sonnen loss have been boring. The Marquardt and Munoz fights were obviously very grappling-heavy, but so are most of St. Pierre’s fights too.
Yeah I think it’s difficult to judge him based on those two fights when for one MM’s fighting style is way grapple heavy with his relentless TD’s taking up a lot of the fight, and NM just did not want to engage in their fight….so it’s difficult to put those fights on Okamis head, besides i also did not think they were all that boring particularly the MM fight.
I agree completely. The 2010/2011 Okami wants to break out of the clinch, stand at range and punch you. That’s not a boring gameplan, but he can’t help when his opposition just want to grapple with him.
Yeah ever since the Chael fight his boxing has looked really crisp….in fact so has his TD defense and imo those were the two major holes in his game. It all boils down to he was promised a shot, he has more than accomplished enough to deserve that title shot and there is no one at MW who deserves it more.
I think he will end up getting his shot though because GSP has already stated he wants time to bulk up and that would be imo at least 8-12 months maybe….idk just a guess but I do not think it will be before the UFC wants AS to fight again.
You asked… soooo….
Obviously, it was a first episode so kinks need to be worked out. The sound quality was all over the fucking map… production needs a lot of work (or at least explanation for pretaped pieces where the sound is off but the content is solid)… Even at it’s best you’ll still hit snags so I’ll let that lie.
I’ll take a decent, open interview like the Mike Brown one anyday on tape delay… but interactive and live is where it’s at. However, using questions from BE members like you did is a good fallback.
The pretaped show intro is pretty lacking… By comparison, Sherdog’s intro pieces are annoying but quite professional… Needs work.
I realize it was the first episode… and this is a critique better left said for a few episodes down the line…. but the Lights Out Radio guys were pretty entertaining and funny on their own show. I hope their personality and interplay comes out to the forefront a bit more.
The Subo vs Snowden segment needs a subject where you’re diametrically opposed and/or one where you’re quick/knowledgable enough to play devil’s advocate. Subo is a good talker who happens to write to be heard… You’re the opposite and should be better prepared. 10-9 but an almost 10-8 Subo first round. If you guys ever naturally argue like you sometimes do on the forums, I think we’d all have a weird boner/orgasm to feel guilty about later.
That said, if nothing changes i’ll still pop this on for drive tme or the gym or whatever… The content is there and it sounds like some interesting things are in the works. Good job!
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
Thanks for this...
I’ll address some of the production things since that’s my territory. The sound quality is mostly a BlogTalkRadio issue and the pretapes will sound better because they were recorded using better quality. The levels are something I’ll work on. It’s tough because you don’t know until you actually play them using this system, so I know to bring those down now.
The intro was pretty much thrown together because I felt we needed one, but I’m waiting on new voiceovers. It’s really tough when you have to find free music to use, working within copyright constraints. As for the Sherdog thing, I’m using a MacBook Pro and GarageBand for this and Sherdog has a bunch of professional equipment. I’m constantly working on and evaluating production elements, so give that some time.
Jonathan and I have been talking a ton since the show ended evaluating everything and tweaking things. We’re very serious about this.
Again, thanks. We appreciate it.
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Subo is a good talker who happens to write to be heard… You’re the opposite and should be better prepared. 10-9 but an almost 10-8 Subo first round.
Since I am a huge star and Derek is a nobody, we had to do it this way to get him over. I’ll be tearing him to shreds once we build him up a little, have no worries.
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 11, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, because we know how willing and thrilled established names are to put new guys over.
This is Tito-esque. Did you also have a cracked skull?
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
I read his pre-radio show interviews… He said he was in the best shape of his life.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I also hear Snowden has been working out with GSP as of late.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
I guarantee things get better as they do more and more shows together. For a first show I thought it was great to be honest and it actually exceeded my expectations. Yeah, the sound quality was off but I completely understand where Matt is coming from. I’m a Multimedia student myself so I deal with stuff like that all the time.
Their first interview was a solid choice. Mike Brown is a very popular fighter. My only problem with the show was Forest to be honest with you. He had 0 energy and was a little awkward in my opinion. Matt however went all out and was very interesting to listen to.
The Subo vs. Snowden segment will honestly only get better. After they continue to do shows together and get on each other’s nerves the sparks will fly. You’re right though, it was all Subo yesterday.
I’m going to say something that might ruffle a few feathers: generally, hardcore fans (of which the audience of Bloody Elbow is obviously 90% or so) tend to have a raging hard-on for anything Asian MMA-related, hence why everyone is shocked (SHOCKED, I tell you!!) when the latest Asian superstar belly flops against the UFC B-fighter of the week. Is there anything at all that makes anyone think that the guy who bombed against Sonnen and went life and death with Munoz and Marquardt has anything whatsoever to offer Silva? As opposed to the P4P best fighter on the planet??
We must have been watching different Okamis
So, who is Yushin Okami? He’s a Japanese mixed martial artist with a growing skillset and remains one of the few Japanese fighters to continue to thrive in the UFC, where he’s been competing since 2006. In spite of his impressive 10 – 2 record within the UFC, he has very little name-recognition and quite unfortunately he has no traction with Japanes fans either. Oh, and Yushin is a textbook example of someone who does not represent Asian MMA in any shape or form. He is a stateside mixed martial artist through and through, despite his ancestry.
He was outwrestled by Sonnen in a tough matchup, and sought to improve himself seeing the difference wrestling can make. What did he do after that fight? He hardened the fuck up and trained with Sonnen! Badass.
Your opinions on the Munoz and Marquardt fights are baffling. Yushin spent basically the entire fight agaisnt Munoz just defending takedowns over and over (Munoz got 1 of 15 takedown attempts) and Yushin would have none of that. The fact that it was a split decision was a fucking disgrace.
And the Marquardt fight Yushin made Nate the Great look tentative and defensive for the entire fight, and while Yushin wasted a lot of energy on failed takedowns he still managed to deal consistent damage to Marquardt throughout he entire fight with his effective straight-line punching. I remember the commentary being more focused on Nate but watch it with critical eyes and you’d see the truth of the fight.
So basically calm the fuck down with all the hyperbole and let’s have a proper fucking discussion.
I've heard Subo before so I wasn't too suprised by his voice
but Snowden really threw me off, I was expecting someone more…abrasive sounding.
I don't want to say he's dirty, but Forrest Griffin looks like directly after a workout his crotch might resemble a cajun swamp.
http://twitter.com/FakeEmcee
http://www.unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com/
His voice is like a gentle breeze on a sunny day.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Subo on the other hand
sounds like Jim Varney (Ernest) without the southern accent.
I don't want to say he's dirty, but Forrest Griffin looks like directly after a workout his crotch might resemble a cajun swamp.
http://twitter.com/FakeEmcee
http://www.unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com/
No whadamean?
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Is there anyway I could convince you to write “Hey Vern!” at the beginning of each of your posts?
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Pay me.
I’ll write whatever you want. I’ll write all over your face for money.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
How much for “Hey Vern!” before each and every comment you make on any forum for two months? Offer void with you not starting a post with “Hey Vern!”
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ex:
Hey Vern!
Know what bothers me about Strikeforce words words words…
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a very, very cheap date.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s change your dynamic… You’ve got an “it” factor to you… but this Sue-bow things of yours is just not going to take you to the top… I’ve done some market research and people are lying in wait for Ernest of MMA…
Let me invest you in now and we’ll both laugh our way to the bank later when you’re the “Hey Vern!” guy of MMA…
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Subo Goes To Camp
Subo Goes To Jail
Subo Scared Stupid
Slam Dunk Subo
Subo Saves Christmas
Those Varney dollars aren’t going to spend themselves. You gotta earn them.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I’m not getting into a cannon with a tarantula in it.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for CagesideSeats.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think your movies would go more like
Subo Fails his test
Subo goes to court
Subo visits P.O.
Subo loves Cerrone (this isn’t a movie, just a statement of fact)
I don't want to say he's dirty, but Forrest Griffin looks like directly after a workout his crotch might resemble a cajun swamp.
http://twitter.com/FakeEmcee
http://www.unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com/
by Fake Emcee on Feb 11, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never say never… Acting as your unofficial agent, I believe I’ll now make the decisions for you. Decisions lined with endless Varney bucks… the kind you can spend nowhere but look great when you make it rain at that “other” strip club in the forgotten part of town.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
I always read his posts in a Gilbert Gottfried voice.
by CaptnAmerca on Feb 11, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If only there were an app for that…
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Feb 11, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I also want to add
I’m on the same train as everybody else, I don’t give a damn how he pronounces it, it will continue to be Sue-Bow to me.
I don't want to say he's dirty, but Forrest Griffin looks like directly after a workout his crotch might resemble a cajun swamp.
http://twitter.com/FakeEmcee
http://www.unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com/
This is fucking bullshit

Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for CagesideSeats.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly over here
I’m a big fan of you and your wacky anti-Strikeforce mentality (except when you did it in that one Strikeforce thread, can you say unnecessary), and Snowden is quite the pill himself.
I thought it was unexpected for you and Snowden to have such a civil and well mannered argument, but even more surprising was you being the aggressor and soft-voiced Snowden (dare I say) being reserved.
I don't want to say he's dirty, but Forrest Griffin looks like directly after a workout his crotch might resemble a cajun swamp.
http://twitter.com/FakeEmcee
http://www.unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com/
Sorry buddy
You don’t get to choose your nickname. Suboticki I will pronounce properly, but Sue-Bow is the short version.
Guillotine.
Would love to subscribe
Can we get a direct link to the RSS feed so as to subscribe via our phones that won’t work with the “blogtalkradio” Flash widget?
Let me know if this works..
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Almost
I had to replace “feed” with “http” and copy-paste instead of just click a link, but it works. It would be great to see every podcast episode announcement on BE have subscription links for the various devices, e.g. plain RSS, iTunes, Zune.
Check out NPR for a good example: http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=94411890
by Bob Culligan on Feb 11, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a novice
When it comes to listening to podcasts. Is there a way to listen through iTunes on my iPhone? How do I listen to my iPhone?
Appreciate all responses…and expect some shots for not bein up to speed on this whole Internet thing
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Yep, on your computer, just click on the iTunes link on our show player above. It should load up our podcast in your iTunes. Then sync your iPhone with your iTunes podcasts.
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How about
Just directly from the iTunes app on my iPhone? If possible, what would I write in the search bubble?
Thanks for the timely response.
by cubsin2010 on Feb 11, 2011 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Misunderstood your response initially, I get it
Thanks
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I’m a little late to the party, but this was really, great, guys, really.
I’m a bit surprised how personable Brown is. He was really great during the interview.
Oh, and I can’t get over 1. SUB-OWE?! I’ve been saying it as “Sue-Bo” in my mind this entire time and 2. Subo’s voice — reminds me of Lewis Black’s voice a bit
I can’t wait for next ones to come.
So great you put a superfluous comma between “really” and “great”. I must have been something.
Also, what happened to your sig? I can only assume you’re still correct, and I definitely still suck.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for CagesideSeats.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, hey, don’t get cocky now. You were in the second half, the first half was great. The two halves together were really great.
The Snowden v. Subo surprised me a bit — you seemed to be the aggressor, while Snowden seemed more laid back and nicer — also, thankfully, you guys had more of a conversational back and forth and no yelling like most back-and-forth segments. Please keep it that way.
The cherry on the show for me was Snowden’s “Fuck you, Derek!” and your “Well, fuck you Jon!” I cackled when I heard that.
I removed the sig because I had it up for long enough. I could always put it back up, if you’d like.
Don’t do me any favors. Let the muse move you as it does. I’ll try to inspire again.
Snowden’s suggestions for topics this week indicate that he’s interested in evening the score. I’ll have a post up tomorrow that has our suggestions for topics, and then we’ll have a poll. What sucks is if he says something is true or leaks something undisclosed, I can’t be like “you’re full of shit.”
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for CagesideSeats.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I intend it to be conversational. I hope it isn’t ever ugly.
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 11, 2011 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

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