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Once I Was a Champion: Official Trailer - The Evan Tanner Documentary

The press screening of the film is planned for the May 28th weekend in Vegas and is being submitting to festivals this month.
HT: onceiwasachampion.com, facebook.com

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Same here man, no shame there. Evan Tanner was perhaps one of the most liked mma fighters of all time. The dude was humble as hell, tough as nails and just a stand up guy in general. Not to mention back in the day he was considered one of the best. Years later we still think about Tanner and the legacy he left behind. I will be without a doubt watching this somehow. If you guys could find a way to post the full documentary whenever you can I would greatly appreciate it.

by budgellism on Feb 11, 2011 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think amped is the correct word, but I want to see this film. I remember what Evan’s death did to Ryan over at Fightlinker. Sad day.

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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2011 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah man, Ryan made me a huge Evan Tanner fan. I still think about the article he wrote after tanner was found dead, very moving.

And the film looks amazing.

by RoB_ex on Feb 10, 2011 9:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Proud as a fan to see this coming out

And good for Tap-Out for being part of it.

by Syncro on Feb 10, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I mishearing, or does Chael Sonnen state that Evan Tanner was not an intelligent person?

by JRN on Feb 10, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

ya I didn't get that either.

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by KingAtRock on Feb 10, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he’s referring to Evan’s writings in the time before his death.

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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought about that, and I guess that must be it. But it’s a terrible way of expressing it and a very odd choice for the trailer.

by JRN on Feb 10, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There will always be people that just see Tanner as a drunk.

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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 11, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah… Chael is probably talking about when Tanner was on Myspace – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yszYYry8bNw

by Nick Thomas on Feb 10, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he meant that he wasn’t in his right mind, or that perhaps people should have known his writings were that of someone who had it together.

I don’t know, I hope so at least. Because I’ve seen and read a lot of what Tanner has written and spoken – and it sounds a lot more useful to mankind than a lot of the sputum we get from Sonnen.

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by mason_beer on Feb 10, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

I’m fucking furious. I hope to God it’s better in context.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

From the director:

Regarding Chael, it’s not out of context.
I know a lot of people won’t enjoy certain things that are said about Evan in the film, but I tried to step away from it as a fan and makee the most unbiased product I could. I think that’s how Evan would have wanted it. The good with the bad.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 10, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh. That still doesn’t explain why they’d put it in the trailer. It would be one thing if there were a number of less flattering opinions, but instead it just clashes with the musical backdrop, disrupts the flow, distracts from the really genuine sentiments that come immediately afterward, etc.

by JRN on Feb 10, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

...

fuck that guy

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The director or Chael?

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by Tonley on Feb 10, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really not trying to be a dick at all

but just because someone passes away only kind words can be said about them.

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I'll agree...

But Even Tanner clearly was and is a very intelligent and insightful person. Chael is just being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk.

by gzl5000 on Feb 10, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe but maybe not.

Who knows. Besides it’s Chael so why should we really put any stock into it at all. He just says shit. A lot.

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not defending what he’s saying, but what Chael is saying is based on a personal relationship with the man. We didn’t know him. How I am with some people is completely different then it is with others. Maybe Evan didn’t like Chael, so he blew him off all the time and played stupid to piss him off. And that would be perfectly reasonable, because a lot of people don’t like him. I don’t like him. I think it was a very odd choice for the trailer, though.

Everyone has an opinion.

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by Amsterdaam on Feb 10, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

But Even Tanner clearly was and is a very intelligent and insightful person. Chael is just being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk.

What makes you say that?

I’m a huge Tanner fan, but let’s not forget that the people who knew him in real life had to deal with irresponsible and self-destructive alcoholic side of him. It doesn’t surprise me at all that a few people have less than fond memories of the guy. He didn’t get kicked out of Team Quest because he was a pleasure to be around. He got kicked out because he was fighting a losing battle with the bottle.

Evan was not a saint. I’m sure that, like most alcoholics, he could be a pretty evil bastard when he was on the sauce. If you didn’t know Tanner personally, you really have no reason to bash those who did. Sonnen might have very good reasons for saying the things he did.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 7:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's not it at all

A lot of people had less than favorable things to say about Evan. What Chael said was fucked up, dickish and most importantly, bullshit.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Like lying ass cheating and stealing Chael is the moral standard for any human, of course he thinks so because his head is stuck so far up his own ass to know any different.

by Modusopks on Feb 10, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Chael...Fuck You

I was a Chael Sonnen fan, even through all of his bullshit I gave him the benefit of the doubt but this guy is a piece of shit.

by Shadows and Dust on Feb 11, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I honestly hate that.

Chael was being asked his honest opinion about someone, and I’m sure whoever was asking knew the answer before it came out. It was supposed to happen that way.

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by James Brady on Feb 11, 2011 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i was just gonna say that ...

i know chael & evan were friends so it must be a weird misunderstanding in the editing. They should fix it. Idiots.

by mmart on Feb 10, 2011 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

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by ChiCubs23 on Feb 10, 2011 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah...

Editing Chael’s comments into the trailer so out of context like that is ugh.

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by Jay Bittner on Feb 10, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

I want to fighter bash so bad.

Why would these directors even air anything Chael said on this documentary. He’s no one’s friend. One day, he’s your buddy, next day he’s badmouthing you. He just did it to VItor who he said he was friends with.

by barpower on Feb 10, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

What's black, white and red?

A sad panda + /wrists

That, and me.

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by TorQus on Feb 10, 2011 9:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i will watch this

and then i will cry my fucking guts out.

RIP, Evan.

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by bobthewriter on Feb 10, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Chael's comment's were not edited

Wow, what a bunch of Chael nuthuggers you are all.

All you had to do was wait Rich Franklins interview to end, then look down at the scroll bar and click CHael Sonnen’s interview.

Here it is. Look what he says about Evan. God, I can’t stand this man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yszYYry8bNw&feature=player_embedded#at=81

by barpower on Feb 10, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

To be fair

That doesn’t put those words in context either.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The addition of Chael's

comments and a few others are to bring more credibility maybe? So it doesn’t seem like they’re just deifying Tanner the whole time. He had his demons and I think Chael is just expressing himself. Maybe we’d think a little different of his comments if we hadn’t been subjected to all his absurdity over the last year.

I can’t wait to watch this. I liked Tanner and remember being very sad when he died. He was a very interesting guy and there are some great interviews with him on youtube. I’ve been anticipating this for what feels like forever.

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by merryprankster on Feb 10, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

I get that

but Chael is the last person who should be allowed to call anyone irresponsible.

What a fucking hypocrite. EVery god damn word that comes out of his mouth is either a lie, or a contradiction.

by barpower on Feb 10, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Your personal feelings with him aside hes still right

A grown man who uses myspace only for communication, doesn’t answer his phone and doesn’t take calls/jobs to make a living is acting like a child.

by SeanyD on Feb 10, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You're also

making the mistake of believing what Chael is saying and how he described the situation. Even then, you and Chael are in no place to make that judgment.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No, they made a film for the exact reason of me making an opinion on his life. Thats the purpose of a documentary. Show the bad, show the good and I make an opinion of what to feel.

by SeanyD on Feb 10, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Oddly

That’s not at all what it’s for

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Then what is it for if not to form a viewpoint on a mans life?

by SeanyD on Feb 10, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

To show the mans life. To see what he did, stood for and what the people who knew him thought. Not so random people can judge him based on it, although that will clearly happen… apparently before people have even seen it.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That is an insane idea.

That random people aren’t supposed to have an opinion on a movie documenting a mans ups and downs in life.

For example, if a documentary is released about a serial killer, I can’t judge him? I don’t care if people form an opinion before seeing it. We do it all the time with trailers for movies.

by Crazynutts on Feb 11, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Chael is probably in a much better place to make those sorts of statements than you or I given the close community of fighters at that time as well as the fact that he trained with Tanner at Team Quest.

It seems like there’s some real venom here from people upset to hear that maybe Evan Tanner wasn’t a great hero and that people have alternate opinion’s of how he lived his life. Great biopics rarely act to purely sanctify their subjects. The fact that the director was willing to allow people a wide swath of opinions interests me more in this film then.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 10, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

What kind of statements?

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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Statements regarding his actual, real life interpretation of real life interactions he had with a now deceased individual he had regular, real life contact with for a period of time in his life.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 11, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Those kind of statements aren’t what people are having a problem with. Essentially saying Evan is dumb and they way in which he did it is the biggest issue.

He other “points”, that Evan didn’t behave like he was an adult because he used Myspace is something else. It’s really stupid, but it’s not bashing the guy.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 11, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Chael Sonnen doesn’t think getting completely blasted and posting on your myspace while trying to be deeply philosophical is terribly intelligent or the mark of a mature adult. Maybe you disagree with various aspects of his opinion, but its his to state. I tend to think that he is more than allowed his opinion, regardless of his PED test or his trash talk on Anderson Silva.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 11, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think everyones issue is that

He could have declined comment or taking part in the film. He could have said “I don’t want to be a part of an Evan Tanner film, I don’t respect him” and that would have been totally acceptable.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

… and the film would have poorer for it.

Who the hell wants to see a puff piece that does nothing but show one side of the man? Tanner was awesome during his moments of lucidity, but he was also a self-destructive alcoholic who had more than his share demons.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 7:05 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s a way to show a man’s weaknesses without having some dude call him unintelligent. There are ways to talk about that sort of stuff without shitting on a dead guy.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 11, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Really? How? Those weaknesses led to the man’s death. There’s nothing heroic about a great number of the things he did, and he was the first person to admit that.

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 11, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Who the hell wants to see a puff piece that does nothing but show one side of the man?

Apparently everyone here. People making a hero of Evan Tanner is disturbing.

by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 11, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He’s got his flaws, no doubt. He was shortsighted and self-destructive with a slipping grasp on how to navigate day-to-day life. Still, he was a fundamentally decent human being, probably better than I’ll ever be. His untimely death only fuels the Romantic aspect of it.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 11, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

...

I feel like you missed the part where I said those statements aren’t what people are up in arms about. Again, those statements are stupid, but aren’t bashing Evan.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 11, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

How do you want him and the filmmaker to portray it? If that’s how Chael feels, that’s how he feels. No one gets online and complains that the Darwin Awards make fun of the dead, do they?

by VirtualBalboa on Feb 11, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure they do, actually.

Respect for the dead and all that.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 11, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If this trailer is anything close to what the full film will be like, it will be the best MMA documentary to date.

I got physically sick when Evan died, it really hit me. I could really identify with the man, and him leaving so suddenly was a shock. It’s incredibly sad, and amazing, how his life played out almost as a theatrical tragedy.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 10, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

You took the words out of my mouth.

by pRoXiMo on Feb 10, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah.

Just human.

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by Tonley on Feb 10, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I very much look foward to seeing this doc. I was a big fan and always kept up with his blogging, his writings were always inspirational to myself. I had never been as shaken to hear of someones passing, like i was with Evan’s (especially because i did not know him personally).

RIP Evan “Believe” Tanner

by pRoXiMo on Feb 10, 2011 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

So are some crazy pics though

He looks like the guy who paints the pictures in the dark

by barpower on Feb 10, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

WAR EVAN TANNER

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by milk72 on Feb 10, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I look forward to watching this movie when it comes out.

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by Kid Khaos on Feb 10, 2011 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. I’m not sure what else to say. I want to see this so bad. But a small part of me really doesn’t, because I’m not a big fan of being sad.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2011 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

I hear you. I’ve got plenty of reasons already to drown the world in my tears. Don’t need another.

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by mburtoni on Feb 10, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep your head up bro, whatever it is that you are going through will change soon enough.

by Modusopks on Feb 10, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

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by mburtoni on Feb 11, 2011 6:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I am in the same boat kinda and MMA is my out.

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by Tokyo Sandblaster on Feb 11, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

What a special dude.

Evan did not change the world……he changed many people’s worlds.

by Modusopks on Feb 10, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Powerful quotes above from an interesting man. He did make a mark on this world, at least with me.

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I don’t know what it is that but is not Explosions in the Sky.

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by exsanguinator on Feb 11, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

The end of the trailor gives credits

Helen Patience for the piano arrangement, Dean McGinnes for the guitar arrangement, Jason Mallett for the drum programming.

by dano- on Feb 11, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

This looks amazing and I will purchase it when it becomes available. Thank you to the film’s creator and thank you for the life of Evan Tanner. And FU Chael.

by Nick Travaglini on Feb 10, 2011 10:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This movie will honestly fuck me up

I can tell right now. Driven made me a mess cause I’m a Pulver fan, but this just seems more raw with the interviews.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 10, 2011 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

I really can relate to Evan. A few years ago I was in an extremely dark place in my life. I was awake all night and I was a zombie all day. I nearly threw ALL of it away. I stumbled onto some meditation folks and it completely changed my life. Changed the way I see everything. It made things brighter and more full. I found that I was experiencing more of everything, the sadness, the happiness, felt a profound sense of love for the world, I suddenly found myself crying at what I would’ve considered ridiculous things before. I spent long amounts of time by myself, recharging my spirit. I could sit and stare at a tree for an hour, or watch something as small as a puddle of water and feel fascinated by it. I suddenly saw things more for what they were, television shows, anger, road rage, the fuel that ignited such things. It was a really interesting experience and it lasted a number of years. With marriage and kids now I’ve sort of let those things drift away, but I still remember it, and every so often I can experience it again. God bless Evan Tanner. Didn’t really know him much before he died, but his message is loud and clear.

But the most important thing I learned was how not to judge, no matter how justified it seems. I also realized that not judging is one of the hardest things most humans in our culture can do.

by Dooda on Feb 10, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

a house full of drunk college dude's are tearing up at this

god bless u evan tanner, as much as i’m something of an agnostic, there is a higher fucking power that looks over evan tanner’s amazing soul

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by milk72 on Feb 10, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Man this is so fucking sad. I can relate to Evan, I don’t have an alcohol problem but I know what its like to never really be happy or comfortable. Evan was a troubled man who accomplished a lot of things despite his shortcomings. I hope he knows how many ppls lives he touched. :(

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by ProfessorBLove on Feb 11, 2011 12:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Also, I continue to find new ways to hate Chael. I listened to part of his interview (it's out there on Youtube)...

… and he came across as a complete dick. There is a time and place for you to express your feelings. If you really felt this way about Tanner, decline the interview. I think it is the director’s job to put the feelings out there in the documentary, since he shouldn’t be hiding what others have said. But Sonnen should be man enough to not talk ill of a dead man.

To talk of things like Tanner lacking responsibility and intellect as he did is a joke (especially when you look back at Sonnen’s recent legal troubles and steroid scandal). Granted, it makes you take what the fool said with a few truckloads of salt, at least.

I have no problem with Sonnen not liking Tanner. I’m sure tons of people hated the guy, as tons of people hate anyone for various reasons. But decline the interview and don’t speak ill of a dead man. Keep it to yourself or issue something out on paper if you REALLY feel the need to get your digs in.

by Jonathan. on Feb 11, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

If you really felt this way about Tanner, decline the interview.

Why?

If you want to create a film that tells the WHOLE story, you need the opinion of both sides. As cool as Tanner was, he was also a self-destructive alcoholic. Tanner was not a saint. Having someone who talks about the ‘other side’ of Evan Tanner makes this film infinitely better. Without telling both sides, the movie would be nothing more than a puff piece. Who wants to see that?

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I replied to another comment of yours, there’s a way to show that without having a guy bash the deceased. Throughout the film, I’m sure we’ll hear about his highs as well as his lows, in most cases, without some dude calling him “unintelligent”. Tanner’s up and down life is just one of the intriguing aspects about the man, people are taking issue with the fact that not only did Sonnen have a poor opinion of Tanner, he had no problem being classless when talking about it.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 11, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re just being odd now. Sorry the real Evan Tanner wasn’t who you wish he was.

by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 11, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry you find me odd. It’s nice to see that you’re not missing a beat though.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 11, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you know Evan? Have you talked with anyone who had to live and work with Evan? Have you had people in your life who couldn’t be counted on for anything, ever? I just don’t understand the hero worship.

by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 11, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the whole reason people are drawn to Evan is because he wasn’t a hero. I wouldn’t trust the dude to mow my lawn, let alone hold up serious agreements, or some sort of plan. Dude was a procrastinator, and had jumped ship on all sorts of things. Of course there are people who were left with poor opinions of Tanner when he passed, but there’s plenty that had positive opinions as well…I think those two extremes make for an interesting person and story.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 11, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I have spoken to people who worked with Evan

and they thought that Chael’s comments were disgusting. I’m not saying write a puff piece about how great of a man Tanner was, but Chael could have said “I had a falling out with him and don’t want to speak poorly of him” instead of giving his opinions.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So the film would have better if everyone who had a negative opinion of Tanner declined comment?

What a boring damn film that would have been.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all, but if all you have is negative I don’t see the point of taking part in the film. That’s just me though. No matter how much someone took advantage of me and my goodwill, I couldn’t speak ill of them posthumously.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Sonnen let Tanner live in his home back when Evan was a self-destructive drunk. I think he knows the man better than anyone posting in this thread. Maybe he’s got a legitimate reason for his hard feelings. Team Quest didn’t kick him out because he was a saint. They kicked him out because his self-destructive behavior was affecting the people around him.

Evan Tanner hurt a lot of people back when he was drinking. It’s only natural that some of those people don’t have a rosy opinion of him.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Evan. Tanner.

Didn’t he turn his home into a giant training facility where it housed those who wanted to train and become fighters…for FREE?

I watched a video where someone said — I think it was Matt Hume or Pat Militech — Evan would help out people who didn’t have places to sleep and offer them food and shelter, once again, for FREE.

Dude was an angel in disguise. Yet, you got other giant pieces of shit, like Chael, still alive.

For the record: Not saying Chael should (or deserves to) die, just meant that there are very sinister, vile humans on this Earth that deserve far worse.

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by Ryan Tical on Feb 11, 2011 1:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Evan is controversial in my eyes

He was selfless but had so many demons in his life that he wasn’t a good person if that makes sense. It’s up to us to remember him and there are many ways to remember the guy. I will always respect him and the way he lived his life but I can’t knock someone for not respecting him as he was a drunk with little to no focus in his life.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

To truly be human it’s important to recognize that we all have demons and do our best to forgive the demons of others and see through to how they try to fight them and the good they do to others.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 11, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I can agree with that...

Evan was a drunk and as Ryan from Fightlinker said in a post, he brought himself back from the brink of death multiple times. He did far more damage to his body with alcohol than fighting ever could and had real issues with his personality. I don’t think the guy had a life plan at all except to have the most experiences one can have before death which depending on your philosophy is either a great way to live or immature beyond belief.

In the end though, I like to look up to him. I see a lot of him in myself in how I’ve led my life and how I am as a person. I can’t ever knock him for what he did, I just wish he didn’t leave so many people behind that cared about him.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think the guy had a life plan at all except to have the most experiences one can have before death

Nah man. That is a huge part of it, but it was much more important to him to do good and help people. To love people.

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by Chris Barton on Feb 11, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

That just it...

his experiences probably happened a 100 times a day, everybody he bumped shoulders with; at home, the gym, a grocery store, on the streets, etc. Being a good person to those around him made him happy and believed it could for others too.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 11, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Amazing Grace

Fits Evan Tanner perfectly.

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by Ryan Tical on Feb 11, 2011 1:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Didn’t he turn his home into a giant training facility where it housed those who wanted to train and become fighters…for FREE?

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Then he closed up shop and quit less than a month after starting. Evan was full of great ideas but never seemed to follow through. He’d make these huge plans and get things started then fall of the grid for months at a time.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 7:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The full story about the fighter house

He set it up and was going forward with the plan. It was for troubled and disadvantaged fighters to try and turn their lives around. The first fighter arrived and there was some sort of an issue (as far as I remember it wasn’t revealed what the issue was) and Tanner decided to close up shop and focus on his own training. It was a good idea, I just don’t think he accounted for what happens when you try and save a group of disadvantaged fighters and troubled youth.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly my point.

Great magnanimous high minded idea.

Very little planning or follow through.

In the end, his fighter house was an abject failure because Evan didn’t think it through.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that makes him a bad person though. He had his demons and tried to create something to help out those before they followed his path.

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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude was an angel in disguise

Good fucking grief.

Evan Tanner was no angel. He’d be the first to admit that.

by Steve4192 on Feb 11, 2011 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

For the record: Not saying Chael should (or deserves to) die, just meant that there are very sinister, vile humans on this Earth that deserve far worse.

…….this is just absurd at this point, the guy took testosterone, mad fun of Anderson Silva after he put on the worst championship bout in mma history and dealt some dirty money to sell a house. Let it go, to even insinuate a guy who entertains people for a living is ranked among the “vile” and “sinister” of this earth is just retarded.

by SeanyD on Feb 11, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

3 years since

2008 is the year Evan died. I can’t believe it’s been that long. It feels like only yesterday. He wore his fragility with a certain pride. Still sadly missed.

by Rug Rug on Feb 11, 2011 2:46 AM EST reply actions  

Can’t wait to see this. Evan Tanner was one of my favorite fighters. It’s going to be nice to put some closure on his life with this documentary. I most certainly will be buying.

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 11, 2011 4:59 AM EST reply actions  

The Doc looks pretty compelling…

But as someone else stated, they probably should have either cut out Chael’s comments or included more opinions that better transitioned into Chael’s beliefs. Chael’s comments kind of came out of left field in the trailer, because they didn’t appropriately connect Evan crying out for help with Chael’s comments. I didn’t know him personally, but his public persona and fights were both great. How couldn’t you like him after watching his title run? He seemed like the kind of guy who was intelligent enough to question our belief systems and the structure of the world around us. More people could benefit from these types of thought exercises.

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by Captain Beyond on Feb 11, 2011 5:26 AM EST reply actions  

UFC Hall of Fame...

…why isn’t Tanner in it? I mean, they put the creepy dude with the hat in there for whatever reason.

by kaptenstofil on Feb 11, 2011 8:12 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Are you talking about Mask

Because that’s kind of fucked up.

by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2011 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I read through this whole thread

And I agree with Steve4192 for the most part on everything. I think it’s hard for his fans to truly have an objective opinion on his life and while what chael said may’ve been distasteful, it’s necessary to understand that not everybody liked Tanner’s antics (namely his inability to commit to things for an extended period of time). I don’t understand why the up in arms (especially from Chris-did you know him personally?) When he was such a jekyll/ hyde type of person. I think that because those words are coming from Chael’s mouth that everyone has a problem with them. It’s better to acknowledge his shortcomings but still take the nuggets of awesome truth to heart and understand that if you live life the way Evan did, everyone isn’t going to have an exactly “rosey” view of your indiscretions. It makes him that much more human to me.

by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2011 9:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

This post made me very emotional

Thanks for this information and im looking forward to viewing this Documentary whenever it comes out.

RIP Evan Tanner

by Goldendawn on Feb 11, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

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