Miguel Torres Released From UFC for Twitter Rape Joke
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST
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Former WEC bantamweight champion and current UFC contender Miguel Torres has been released from the UFC following making a rape joke on Twitter. This is a very strong move on the UFC's part and, frankly, was quite unexpected. Given Forrest Griffin making a recent similarly ill advised joke about rape and Rashad Evans invoking the Penn State child rape scandal in fight promotion yesterday it almost seems like Torres was just the guy who took it far enough that the UFC could take action beyond Dana "having a talk" with the involved fighter.
The news came from a Dana White interview with Sports Illustrated:
SI.com: And what about Miguel Torres' tweet from yesterday?
White: This morning I'm on [Michael] Landsburg's show, up here in Canada, and he hits me with the quote of what he tweeted. Now there's no explanation for that. There's absolutely nothing I could say to make any sense of that. And the fact that he even thinks that's funny or that's a joke, it disturbs me. It bothers me. Again, you're dealing with a guy that's a smart guy, that owns his own business, that's been one of the top fighters in the world forever. And I cut him today. He's no longer with the UFC.
SI.com: Was that announced today?
White: It's being announced right now to you. You're the only one that knows. Miguel Torres has been cut from the UFC and his career with us now is over.
Dana talked some to Ariel Helwani about the subject in a recent interview where he explained that the explanation Miguel gave just wasn't as solid as the one Forrest gave for his similarly tasteless joke. That response after the jump:
From Ariel's interview with Dana:
I deal with these guys like normal human beings and go in there and ask "why'd you say something so stupid?" The bigger issue and what I'm working on right now is what I heard what Miguel Torres tweeted yesterday. When Forrest tweeted something like that and when I called him, his explanation was dead on and it made perfect sense. I haven't talked to Miguel Torres yet -- actually this morning I did an interview here with Landsberg and Landsberg read me the tweet that Miguel Torres had tweeted yesterday....I don't remember exactly what it said but it had to do with a rape van. It just uh...man, I dunno man. It's not a good one.
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I don't like this.
Punishing Torres by firing and Rashad by fine don’t make any sense. Where is the standard?
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by Ionnes on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST reply actions
Seems like a "Paul Daley" situation
Forrest and Rashad owned up to what they said, and admitted it was stupid. Torres, by the sounds of what Dana said, didn’t “get it”, though D was vague about the conversation so it’s hard to say for sure.
by The Burning Scheyer Jersey on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Or
It’s because he’s a BW and the other two are draws in the most popular weight class.
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by Neil Manich on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
or
he didn’t want to sabotage his Fox main event.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Torres is unfairly being made an example of.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anytime you put yourself in a position to be "made an example of"
you’ll have little right to claim it unfair.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Ever since he's been on Twitter, this is how Torres has always been.
The guy makes bad jokes, this is a well known fact. He is a victim of circumstance, and it really isn’t fair to do that to a veteran like Miguel without any warning.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 5:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
I think the UFC was pretty clear on its stance on rape jokes in the way it handled the Forrest situation. The fact that Torres saw that whole thing happen and then went forward to make not one but several rape jokes and then took one down just to repost it, to me seems like a time for an example to be made.
I would do something similar if it were students in a class, you just disciplined a student for an action and a few minutes later another student does the same thing, you increase the punishment because that second student had the chance to learn from the other student’s mistake.
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I don’t think that it justifies firing the guy though.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Miguel fucked up but Dana asked for this when he told all his fighters to get on twitter
Nothing productive or positive ever comes from twitter……ever.
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by doonerthesooner on Dec 9, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When you reward guys for being funny, people are going to push the line for the rewards they may reap.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
agreed, this is as much Dana's fault as it is Miguels.
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by doonerthesooner on Dec 9, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Dana said this
in one of the 3 interviews involved in this story now… i forget which one.
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by Ionnes on Dec 9, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Hard not to see Dana's position
especially considering he’s a businessman first. When Rashad made the Penn State comment. He stood there and laughed, on camera. Kind of hard to punish Rashad after that. Now being on TV with Micheal Landsburg and being told about that rape van tweet, well his hands are tied. Its stupid that it got to this point before some kind of action was taken, but maybe this will set a standard.
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by ODBasyoucansee on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
He said in his interview with Helwani he didn’t actually hear what Rashad said.
We also have no idea what the conversation was between Torres and Dana. Torres might not have been particularly remorseful about it.
by originaldude on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
making an example
of someone not as high on the food chain as Rashad or Forest?
these are not boxing gloves in which they are wearing
by Christopher Kelly on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Pretty clearly.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
or Rogan
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
He does it far more often
And was not apologetic in the slightest.
That said, it was a very brash decision to cut him, but its Dana.
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by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I'm pretty sure with PPV sales down
The first thing the UFC wants to do is immediately cut two popular fighters.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
twenty one cents more
and we can buy a bag of chips
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 8, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
What a meal! Miguel Torres makes us money, bitches!
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
we need a raise
OCCUPY UFC!
HIRE TORRES
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
in before
people say we don’t have a cohesive message
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
They don’t know the struggles of The Artist Formerly Known as KrmtDfrog and Mr. Mountaineers101. I’m with you. UNITY!
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
you guys don't have a cohesive message
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by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You gotta up your Nick Diaz game, homie.
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Can you give your Diaz impression on the GSP stuff?
I hear you do a mean Nick Diaz.
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by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll consider it...
but doing a Diaz take on GSP isn’t much fun since it’s really just compiling all the crazy shit he’s actually said about GSP.
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“If a rape van was called a surprise van more women wouldn’t mind going for rides in them. Everyone likes surprises.”
....I'm waiting for the punchline.
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I chuckled
I also laughed when Louis CK did a bit about fucking a dead kid. Laughed my ass off. Should I have been outraged instead? This whole thing is stupid – funny and tasteless are not mutually exclusive
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by Disco1Stu on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Louis CK does not represent a million dollar company, or does he?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Different folks different strokes, I guess, then.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
But in that role he is hired BECAUSE of his comedy routine. It’s a pretty big difference.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course!
It’s the Joe Rogan defense! Hey guys, I don’t have to be accountable for anything I say because I’m hilarious!
I’m so tired of people using comedians to defend non-comedians making terrible, disgusting jokes about rape of women and children. There is a huge fucking difference.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Dec 9, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Please explain the difference
Substantively and not superficially, like comedians are paid or something.
One is a sub-contrator of a company that promotes fights
the other is a self-employer performer. That performer is in the business of getting people to pay to him make jokes. Often rather tasteless ones. Such jokes often encourage more people to buy tickets to hear more.
The fighter, on the other hand, is in the business of providing contracted-for services by way of a contract that has language that basically says, “Don’t embarrass the company.” And the company gets to decide what that behavior can include.
Your position, in my estimation, is like saying I should be allowed to punch a co-worker because boxers get paid to do it.
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by duck on Dec 9, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Wow
Your position, in my estimation, is like saying I should be allowed to punch a co-worker because boxers get paid to do it.
I think this is the best analogy I have heard regarding the comedian comparison.
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No it's not
It’s more similar to me making a dead baby joke at the office and depending on my boss’ discretion whether I would get fired or not. I’d probably get fired though or at least some type of punishment…
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
If we examine the argument
it actually works well, in my view. The claim is that the two jobs are sufficiently different to warrant different treatment regarding one’s actions. I think we both agree on this.
The analogy above pushes this to an extreme limit in order to demonstrate the absurdity of the comedian argument. Does it push it too far? I think that is what is up for debate. Your analogy is certainly closer to the actual situation, but the point of contention is the following premise: “If a person in Job A can perform and action, then a person in Job B should also be able to perform this action.” If I am correct about this, the analogy above holds quite well.
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That's not what I'm saying
I’m not questioning the legality of the UFC’s dismissal of Torres. I’m questioning the moral outrage regarding the actual words. Specifically, why is it offensive coming out of a layperson rather than a pro comedian?
By the way, your analogy was a straw man.
Perhaps the best response
is that jokes about child rape are offensive across the board.
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A comedian sits down and works on his bit. He thinks about it. He looks at all the different angles. He understands what the line is and how to walk it. He puts countless hours of prep and work into his bits. Do you see the difference now?
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Louis CK comparison is especially wrong
Louis CK is not just a comedian who gets paid to make risque jokes that some people don’t care for. His jokes (of the kind you’re alluding to) are specifically aimed at highlighting moral issues. He is making jokes in a way that is also an attempt to get us to think about morally significant themes and practices. He is not some idiot trying to talk trash or make fun of somebody else by comparing them to a victim of rape or child abuse in a way the belittles the horror of such crimes (Rashad Evans).
For example, you might be specifically referring (although you might not) to his joke about how fewer abucted children would get murdered if we didn’t demonize child rape so much. Maybe he’s wrong about this. Or, maybe he’s right but our current practice is nevertheless the one we should stick with (because child rape really is so bad, attacking it the way we do is worth the repurcussions of murdered children). In any case, he is raising a legitimate question in way that tickles us and our sensibilities and so makes us laugh while it also makes us think. If you can’t tell, I think rather highly of Louis CK.
I don’t know if you are deliberately misconstruing his comedy or if you (and perhaps) others just aren’t mature enough to listen to it, because you misunderstand it as insensitive and then laugh anyway. His comedy is not insensitive – it is ethically poignant.
by Philosophy Pro on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nah not really funny, his one about roofies was actually kinda funny though.
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
That is some BS!
Miguel Torres repeated a dumb joke he heard on a Fox Channel on twitter and gets fired. But it’s cool for Rashad Evans making light of the Penn State situation without a hint of irony.
Not to mention Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans. What a joke!
by FacialMaker on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Huh?
You mentioned Rashad Evans and then said “Not to mention Rashad Evans.”
by sexysassytravismmafan on Dec 9, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
See, Forrest did the same thing in acting with no remorse until an actual rape victim tweeted him.
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But, could be that Dana feels that Miguel should have known the issue is one that already caused a huge to-do.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can get behind this. If you’re a UFC fighter and I’m sure you’re aware of the Griffin rape joke incident, you should be smart enough to stay far the fuck away from tastless jokes. Maybe he just didn’t know?
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
See what I said below.
People did tweet back at him saying that they were offended (and who knows, maybe one of those people was a rape victim), and his response was basically, “Fuck you for being too sensitive.”
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8/12?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
yessssssssssss!
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8 1/2?
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You and Imaginary Enemy get recs.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Still no Michael Bisping
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That's the perfect response, actually.
I don’t see anything wrong with it.
I admire the fact that he stuck to his comment and doesn't change who he is in response to others.
I just don’t think what he said was particularly funny, nor was it a good career move.
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Yeah, but Forrest did the same thing if I recall. Just a fact that Miguel should have known that this was an issue previously.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
What I meant was,
Forrest tweeted his rape joke, and then when people said, “Hey dude, not cool,” Forrest tweeted something like, “Okay, you’re right, I feel like an asshole, sorry.”
Miguel tweeted his rape joke, people told him it wasn’t cool, and he said, “Yeah, whatever. I do what I want!”
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
Actually, that’s not entirely true.
When told “not cool” he said " following me is privilege" then a girl was offended because she had been raped, THEN he apologized
Yeah, this is what I remember.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty onconsistent not to at least reprimend Forrest for that, but that does not mean Miguel should just get scott free.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the escalation:
1. Forrest- “we do not condone this behavior!”
2. Rashad- fined
3. Miguel- ETERNAL DOOM
The first two were fair enough warning for everyone. Not tomention it was a stupid joke and completely uncalled for, and all fighters, including those that did this before him, should actually think before posting.
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by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They should’ve gotten to that spot sooner with the whole money laundering and mortgage fraud of Mr. Sonnen.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he got fined…
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
How about just sending out a memo to all UFc fighters “no more rape jokes on twitter or you’re fired.” ? They don’t need to make an example out of a vet like Torres.
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by mburtoni on Dec 9, 2011 8:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, and maybe they should also send out a memo to its fighters to not kill people. I mean, fighters are too stupid to have common sense, right?
Killing people and making harmless jokes on twitter are two totally different things.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
I agree… but making harmless jokes isn’t what Torres has been doing here… he’s making jokes that are seriously hurting the credibility of the UFC in the mainstream media’s eyes. You just can’t have the media peppering Dana with questions about its fighters lauhing at rape…
No they don't.
No one listens to these fighters anyway. It’s not an issue because no one credible is on twitter.
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by doonerthesooner on Dec 9, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ultimately in the grand scheme of things, casual fans don’t really give a fuck about what fighters say, they just want to see guys fight.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Forgot about that, you're right.
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I was never a fan of him, his mullet, his tweets, or his new found boring fighting style.
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by ANance on Dec 8, 2011 9:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I put this on the fanposts, I'll put it here too.
Here’s the sequence of Tweets.
Starting on 04 December:
Your mouth says no but my roofies say yes.
— Miguel Angel Torres (@MiguelTorresMMA) December4, 2011
99 no’s and 1 yes is still a yes. #determination
— Miguel Angel Torres (@MiguelTorresMMA) December4, 2011
Then, on 07 December, he wrote:
If a rape van was called a surprise van more women wouldn’t mind going for rides in them. Everyone likes surprises.
He caught some flak from his followers, so he quickly deleted that comment and posted:
Too soon huh?
— Miguel Angel Torres (@MiguelTorresMMA) December7, 2011
Jokes on racism, pedifiles, terrorism, & other fucked up things is ok, but some are off limits. What a sensitive world we live in.
— Miguel Angel Torres (@MiguelTorresMMA) December7, 2011
And then he rewrote and reposted the “rape van” tweet to say:
If a windowless van was called a surprise van more people wouldn’t mind going for rides in them. Everyone likes surprises.
— Miguel Angel Torres (@MiguelTorresMMA) December7, 2011
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by alicks on Dec 8, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions 12 recs
so there were a number of rape related jokes then?
these are not boxing gloves in which they are wearing
by Christopher Kelly on Dec 8, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
The biggest thing that strikes me is that he made the initial "rape van" comment
and once people got offended, he didn’t backpedal or apologize, but basically told everyone complaining to screw off and stop whining.
He reposted it in a slightly less offensive manner, but the intent was still the same. The real thing is, he wasn’t apologetic about it (whether or not he should be is a different issue) after the initial backlash. I’m sure that came into play with regards to his firing.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
Forrest wasn’t apologetic either. He only deleted his comment after a rape victim told him it offended her.
But he did apologize on his own (sort of on his own - Dana didn't have to tell him to).
Plus, Forrest did it first.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
Forrest apologized and made a donation to a rape crisis center. And the fact that Miguel posted several rape jokes after what happened to Forrest says he has to go.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
His “rewording” was also a big “fuck you” that didn’t go over well.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s like putting out fires with gasoline.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
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by Chris Groves on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the reference. Good work.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll just assume my prize is in the mail
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Nor should he be apologetic.
He’s a fighter, the guy doesn’t get payed to give his opinion. He gets payed to fight, and I firmly believe in separating the man from the fighter.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Not worth a cut at all, it's just a joke.
No matter what the hyper-sensitive Castillo and Snowden will try and make you believe. Makes me sick that he was cut over something as trivial as a sentence on twitter thats less than 140 characters.
If it makes his employers look bad in a public forum, why not fire his ass?
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Because they didn't fire Chael
Or any number of people who actuallycommitted crimes.
by OldBoomBap on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Inconsistent it is. Undeserved, no.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
It is deserved.
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why is it undeserved?
The PC police would’ve jumped all over it and fuck with the UFC to no end even worse than with Rashad and Forrest.
It’s not about being morally outrage but about being pragmatic, I think.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
UFC is trying to go mainstream.
Allowing your employees to make rape jokes with impunity is not the way to impress your current and future partners.
One thing is for certain, no more rape jokes from UFC fighters. Point taken.
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Yep. Worth the boot.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Beautiful push kick
Just look at that technique. It’s just above the groin but causes him to lose his balance.
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I know exactly in Hong Kong where this picture was taken and it’s real…Ly staged. Not with wire or anything, there’s just a 10 foot ledge that you can’t see from the angle that’s below the kids.
by Cindjor on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still a rough fall
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Having seen these,
he absolutely deserved to be released. It’s multiple jokes about rape, over a span of three days. I wouldn’t want him working for me, either.
I think this is garbage
Perhaps I’m jaded for being on the internet, but that joke, while off color, isn’t really that bad. Definitely not something you fire a guy over. I think a lot of it has to do with him not being a real draw anymore and being more of a boring fighter.
I would disagree, I think there are a lot of companies who would fire employees for publicly making that type of joke.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Mine would
"Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit."
~ Joe Lewis
http://worldisart365.blogspot.com/
Yeah. I’m currently between jobs so I can make all the rape jokes I want, but most of the place I’ve worked the last couple of years that shit wouldn’t fly. I mean maybe if you’re a construction worker or something, but try making a rape joke at any ordinary office job and see where it gets you.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I work for the largest broadcaster in Canada
We have to sign off on a social media policy when we’re hired. I would lose my job if I posted something like that on Twitter and my employers found out.
"Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit."
~ Joe Lewis
http://worldisart365.blogspot.com/
Seems pretty standard and functional.
Not everyone is understanding that the actions of Zuffa may be more out of self interest than of moral outrage.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Some employers will fire you if you so much as say you work for them in public, or if you post pictures of you getting drunk..etc. That’s the way the world works now.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I should say “in public” means “on twitter/facebook”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Even private photos
If someone passes along a screenshot or saves the image. There was recently a very controversial case in which a teacher was fired for having a photo of herself drinking a glass of wine in Italy. And it was a private/protected photo.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Teachers in Florida have been forced to resign
for posting pictures in a swimsuit from a beach vacation.
And here’s the link to the teacher being fired for posting a pic from her European vacation with a beer.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Yeah I’m on facebook (yeah yeah yeah) and I’ve COMPLETELY censored myself after my boss’ wife and a few of the married women at the office added me as their “friends”, so I don’t say shit that I think would even be remotely offensive on their anymore. I’ve actually considered just dropping it all together after hearing some of these extreme stories of people getting canned. My gf’s a teacher and she has a fb, but luckily she has a bit of common sense about what to post or not to post on there. Shit’s crazy.
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Real-world example.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/nw-pub-reports-larsen-aides-booze-it-up-at-work_b58351
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
Or Wayne Gretzky.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I work for Bell Media
They run CTV, CP24, BNN, MuchMusic and all it’s affiliates, MTV Canada, Discovery Canada, E! Canada, Fashion Televions, Space, The Comedy Network, and several other properties I can’t think of off the top of my head.
"Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit."
~ Joe Lewis
http://worldisart365.blogspot.com/
Seems a lot like Televisa to me.
How many comparable companies does Canada have?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Both Canwest Global and Rogers Media
are players but my company holds the majority of the market share. There’s also the CBC but that’s our nationally mandated public broadcaster and they’re in shambles at the moment.
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They most likely do
It probably has really broad wording open to interpretation that allows them to fire guys under these circumstances.
"Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit."
~ Joe Lewis
http://worldisart365.blogspot.com/
Considering they can fire people for any reason at any time
They might not have one.
Read: Toblerone Jones
I'd bet large sums of money they do
Just for the sake of protecting their own asses, there isn’t a company worth it’s salt that doesn’t have some basic code of conduct policy.
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LOL.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT!
I even asked you to hide it the second after I posted it lol
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Wanderlei looks like a straight up gangsta right there. it’s almost like he wants a shot at banging that thing.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
"I bet you I can stomp on that harder than you can hit it with a hammer, Dana. I just have to pretend it's an undersized Japanese man's head."
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
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by pdl on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this is awesome
The Season 4 BE rec’ing CHAMPION!
The Season 1 Blow the Staff CHAMPION!
The Season 2, 3 and 4 Cat Molesting CHAMPION!
The reigning and defending Transgendered S&M CHAMPION!
And the soon to be Ugly-Ass Ben Saunders Shirt Buying CHAMPION!
Damn I miss Family Matters
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
award for most appropriate gif of the day goes to you.
Nice one!
by I_Mad on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm gonna post this before this shit gets outta hand again
Moviebob, take it away.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
A fellow Escapist?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I knew I liked you.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Haven't posted there in a while.
Cool-ass place to talk video games, though.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Zero Punctuation is the best video game review series around.
Easily my favorite critic, across any medium.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yahtzee does know his satire well.
I loved the “Revenge of the Brown Castle” line on his review of Clive Barker’s whatever the name of the game was.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Right on.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't Movie Bob also like Metroid: Other M? Cause if so..
That’s just terrible
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 5:45 AM EST up reply actions
Not saying anything about whether Miguel's comments were harmful/harmless.
Not saying I don’t get why he was released and not Rogan, Forrest, or Rashad.
But don’t expect me to ever take anything Dana White says seriously ever again.
Actually, I haven’t for a while.
BOOSH
He was more expendable than either Forrest or Rashad...
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Not to mention there was less negotiating room in the context of his jokes.
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Yeah, if you’re gonna say some wack shit, you better be damn good at hittin’ and/or breakin’ folk.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
You can get caught for steroids on multiple occasions, you can run people over with your monster truck, you can be a convicted criminal, you can call a reporter a cunt, you can make homophobic slurs in public, you can bully people…but you bet your ass you’ll get fired for a Twitter post.
Hypocrisy and Dana White are like best friends.
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by andrew861 on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions 28 recs
Addendum: Not condoning Miguel Torres’ post but seriously, what the FUCK is the standard here?
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Draws stay
Business holds itself to few morals
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
by halitosis on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
There is none
and you’re dead on. And because there is no logical structure for doling out punishments, everything is based on Dana White’s whim, and the choices seem to be:
1) ignoring and wrist-slapping wrongdoers who kiss Dana’s ass in a timely fashion, or
2) losing your shit and banning people for life for things that should probably merit a suspension or fine.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Dec 9, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the Rampage reference, but at the same time, that doesn’t mean Dana shouldn’t do anything about this. Fact is, Torres was and is unapologetic about what he said, whereas Forrest and Rashad were the exact opposite.
Yes, free speech and all that, but free speech doesn’t keep you from consequences, especially when you work for a company.
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by MicahtheCynic on Dec 9, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t remember exactly what it said but it had to do with a rape van. It just uh…man, I dunno man. It’s not a good one.
First of all, what the hell was Forrest’s explanation that was so ‘dead on’? Because I remember it being a terrible way of backtracking from a stupid comment. Secondly, ’it’s not a good one’? Please tell me Dana didn’t release Torres for being unfunny, because he could’ve done that a long time ago.
Dana's justification is pretty weak, but I understand the move
Forrest’s explanation if true, is understandable but a pretty shitty excuse anyway. Rashad was on stage, in front of the media, and wanted to win the exchange and said something stupid and apologized after and admitted it was wrong.
Miguel puts this unfunny joke on twitter, gets called out for it, deletes it, argues about it, re-tweets it in a different way, and then gets cut.
Why Miguel wanted to make such a shitty joke and defend it is beyond me. They are making an example of him because he is exponentially more expendable than Forrest or Rashad. Period.
Welcome to Bellator Miguel
Fuck.
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I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
I have no problem with Miguel Torres getting cut. Forrest’s incident set the precedent of “HEY IDIOTS, DON’T MAKE RAPE JOKES ON TWITTER”. For Torres to do this after Forrest, he should be fired simply for being so incredibly stupid.
by jpayne on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
A stupid precedence.
THEY’RE FIGHTERS. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHETHER THEY MAKE TASTELESS JOKES OR NOT, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR JOB.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+ 1 million,
Though I understand that Dana has to protect hisbusiness.
I smoke on the mic like Smokin' Joe Frazier
Dana asked for this when he started giving bonuses out for tweets.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 9, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
The entire point is that it shouldn't.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I normally don't touch these posts with a 10 foot pole.
But this is bullshit.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST reply actions
How so?
Is it inconsistent given Rashad and Forrest’s treatment? Yes. Undeserved? Doubt it.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
You're offended by it.
I get it. I respect that. Just don’t disrespect me by telling me that if I’m not offended, then I’m a shitty person. Humans don’t work that way.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m curious, what do you think WOULD justify someone’s view of you as a shitty person? I’m honestly just curious. Under what circumstances would you say “you know what? I’m totally shitty. I’m shittier then a Fogo de Chao public bathroom. I define shitty”. Please enlighten.
I think that humor's an incredibly personal thing.
We all laugh about shit, think about shit, write about shit, sing about shit, talk about shit that is fantasy. We suspend our disbelief in all corners of sport and culture. That is not action. Do you think that Torres was advocating rape, or do you think that he was trying to be funny and failed? Is there going to be a crime spree based on these deviant tweets? I don’t begrudge your right to disagree, but yours isn’t the only side of the coin.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
So humor is a personal thing…….but someone’s opinion about whether you are a shitty person is in the public forum? If someone has the opinion “I think John Danaher’s Hair is a shitty person because he wasnt remotely offended by Torres’s joke”, That seems an equally personal expression of opinion as the original joke…….right?
judgment on character....
is a different process from opining on a sport. But, point taken: we’re all entitled to our own opinions/judgments. Which was my original point.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I a ctually dont care that much and am just busting your balls LOL But I stand by my point……One of the few things George W. Bush ever said that I completely agree with is when someone asked him about the Dixie Chicks controversy. He just shrugged and said “They have the right to say anything they want……and everyone ALSO has the right to react to it however they want”
I'm perfectly calm. Though....
DID YOU JUST QUOTE DUBYA BUSH!!???? HOW DARE YOU?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Miguel Torres had made a whole twitter career out of trying to be funny and failing miserably.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 5:47 AM EST up reply actions
Hi, I'm offended by it.
More the sheer stupidity and unfunniness than the political incorrectness, though. I’ve always felt it puts more pressure to be actually funny if you are being offensive. Why I hate Sarah Silverman.
Just cause I’m offended though doesn’t mean you can disrespect me or call me a kitten-torturer, because I would never do that sort of thing.
Whoa, whoa, when did I call you a shitty person?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
sorry...
I didn’t mean to personalize it. You never did… I guess I’m speaking more to the judgmental “outrage!” club that says “if you don’t think [this way] than you’re an idiot/dbag”…. I HATE Torres, but unless he’d been warned before, this is a huge overreaction.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t even think it is outrageous; but I do understand that other people do, and it is damn stupid for him to do what he did—and especially so when his actions damage the company in a public forum.
It’s still damn contradictor of the UFC to fuck him up but not Rashad, or Forrest…or mr. mortgage fraud.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
So you’re premptively calling out people in case they call you a shitty person at some point in the future? WARNING: DO NOT CALL JDH A SHITTY PERSON FOR NOT BEING OFFENDED AT TORRES. HUMANS DONT WORK THAT WAY. ;-)
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by Hardy's in your face on Dec 9, 2011 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, you keep that pole out of my face. Otherwise I'll flag you
by Horselover Fat on Dec 8, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and that’s not the only thing I’m full of.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
As usual, agreed.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe its a tad harsh BUT
definatly puts the rest of the crew on notice that if your not top top you better make sure you think before you tweet
Twitter @MaZZM
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An example had to be made out of someone...
Torres just had bad timing. 6 months ago, it would have been a blip on Dana’s radar, and nothing would have come of it, but Forrest, and Rashad used up everyones freebies
I think Dana got pissed because basically so many fighters are making stupid remarks
And the ones that are aware of the predecessors aren’t learning.
Torres deserved to go.
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by SSreporters on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
so we should be expecting your fanpost...
calling for Rashad and Forrest to be cut too, right?
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Rashad, maybe.
Forrest, no.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
Forrest publicly apologized. I think Rashad was fined.
Miguel basically said the joke was okay and told people to go f*ck off and then continue to make jokes that are over-the-line.
He saw nothing wrong with it even in hindsight.
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I tell ya what
This has to be deflating news for Frank Mir.
Put all your money on Big Nog.
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by SSreporters on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
Has anyone checked on Frank Mir?
i bet he isn’t taking this too well.
by darkotto23 on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
^Just a few seconds too late.
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
SS tryna fade you man!
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
The reason he's been cut is because:
1. He’s only a middle-to-low tier fighter at this point.
2. He’s not a star.
3. How many questionable comments had Griffin made? One. How many questionable comments had Rashad made? One. How many questionable comments has Torres made? More than one. And spaced over a few days, plus the precedents of Griffin and Rashad THE DAY BEFORE, should’ve been a red light for all of UFC Twitter that the rape jokes need to stop.
How many questionable comments has Griffin made, 1 whattttt
Haha, clearly you don’t follow his twitter haha
having followed forrest's twitter for a long while
I can safely say he’s made a ton of other inappropriate jokes that possibly shouldn’t have been said.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
A series of dumb rape jokes in the wake of the Forrest situation is ridiculous
But on a selfish level, Miguel Torres not being in the UFC 
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Bullshit
I don’t yell PUNCH HIS FACE in earnest very often.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah that is why I don't really care tbh
as selfish as that is
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I get the feeling you lot are compromising
He’s not a UFC fighter anymore, so he sucks. Cool, I get it.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
never said he sucks
I was agreeing with the fact he is boring to watch now
dude is a top 10 bw… but boring as fuck
stop makign something out of nothing
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That last line was cute as a button
The Pace fight was great, homeboy. Torres was right about one thing— fight fans are all about KO KO KO KO KO.
Play Street Fighter instead.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
still making something out of nothing I see
ended it with the classic, elitist MMA zinger to boot.
maybe next you can follow it up with “go watch kickboxing!” or maybe the just bleed guy while you are at it. Go with the trifecta
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
I feel cheated
where is the gif!?
in a seriousness, I haven’t enjoyed any of torres’s fights in the UFC. Ain’t the first or last time I have bitched about it. the DJ fight was dec I suppose
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I just feel he's held to the impossible standard of the Maeda and Mizugaki fights
Only fight of his I haven’t enjoyed ever was the Banuelos fight.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
And the Banuelos fight wasn't THAT bad
It ended up being card filler, but it wasn’t go take a piss bad.
Read: Toblerone Jones
Right
I just wished he would have done more. But seriously, I loved the Mighty Mouse fight, liked the Valencia fight, loved the Pace fight. People are too hard on him for not just going for broke like he did before getting stopped by Bowles and Benavidez.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
It's like getting KO'd can damage your mental attitude and make you change how you fight!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
You keed, right?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you go dissin' my Street Fighter.
Ibuki is such a doll… … …wait, how old is she?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Dissing?
It’s a commentary on how you get a booming KO every 60 seconds.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah!
The hypocritism is astonishating. I am incredulastic at this appalistic turn of events.
by Steadiest Pink on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
It's actually exactly the opposite around here
"You're... you're crazy man. I like you, but you're crazy."
strange...
i thought it was all virtual…
'if you don't have humility as a fighter, fighting will bring humility to you...'
They are inconsistent, that much is true.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's not fair.
But it’s understandable.
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I find it hilarious how people bitch when the UFC does nothing, then bitch even more when they do something. They can’t win. No matter what they do (or don’t do), people are going to bitch about it.
by Steve4192 on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah…that’s because people have different opinions and there are a lot of people on earth.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Really?
I think it’s pretty obvious how they win. They have an acceptable use guideline with agreed upon punishments written up.
Read: Toblerone Jones
Dude you would bitch about the the guidelines they came up
And you know it
"You're... you're crazy man. I like you, but you're crazy."
lol
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
I bitch about a lot of things
It’s true. Would still be a better/fairer system.
Read: Toblerone Jones
You should start an MMA promotion
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Shit yeah
I mean, you already wrote the SOPs. You’re like 80% there.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Western Union, playboy
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s the deal. Yeah, it’s not exactly consistent…but the truth is, if these lines kept popping up it was only going to become a bigger and bigger issue. and yes, the fact that Miguel isn’t as big of a draw as Forrest or Rashad..etc. is no doubt at play here. But that’s how this shit works.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Also, two rape jokes in two days after a UFC on FOX press conference
Those two guys are going to get yelled at.
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I just don't get why people care so much.
They’re fighters, does anyone expect them to say anything insightful… EVER?
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
Insightful is not expected...
…decent and not vile is not a lot to ask for. You do not see why people care so much because you clearly lack a basic understanding of empathy and tact.
by bigstupidsmile on Dec 9, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
Still though,
they’re fighters. Should we even expect empathy or tact from them? Should they be fired for a lack of it? I don’t think so, but god forbid anyone’s feelings ever get hurt.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 5:16 AM EST up reply actions
Sure, they aren't serial killers, but that doesn't mean that empathy is a necessary quality for them.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 6:01 AM EST up reply actions
Empathy...
…is a very very basic human quality. I expect it in humans with very few exceptions. Those exceptions are individuals with developmental or neurological impairments or those with some sort of psychological disorder. Empathy is a necessary quality for humans, it’s one of the things that makes us special animals.
by bigstupidsmile on Dec 9, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Many other animals display empathy,
but that’s not the point. The point is that empathy has nothing to do with being a fighter, nor does tactful, diplomatic public speaking.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 10, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Which is fucked up b/c the only current UFC fighter who actively fucked up with people's lives, that we know of, is Chael Sonnen.
And look at him now.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Good point, sir.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
You dont know of anyone whose life was fucked with by Chael outside of the Octogon.
Your beliefs become your reality.
by Hardy's in your face on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So?
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh...
Ok??
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
You are insufferable, its a joke on twitter.
There is nothing wrong with joking about rape, ask George Carlin.
Carlin was funny, so there is no comparison.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Being funny isn't a prereq for telling jokes.
The real joke here is that Torres got fired for his sense of humor. Total bullshit.
When you represent a company bigger than yourself...
don’t make comments that negatively reflect on that company. If you do, expect to be dealt with.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
No, he got fired b/c his nonsense is a public liability for teh company.
And b/c he’s not worth as much as either Rashad or Forrest.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
So your the judge of all humor on the internet?
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 5:50 AM EST up reply actions
He's joking at the expense of rape victims. Not OK.
The best jokes involving rape that I’ve heard don’t do that.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
George Carlin is a comedian
Who makes anything funny.
These are pro athletes representing a company trying to expand their product.
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So what if he isn't funny?
The point is he was TRYING to be funny and earn followers for bonuses, it’s unjust and stupid to fire him over a tweet.
If he isn't funny, in comes the shitstorm
Imagine if I worked for Bloody Elbow and then TRIED to make a funny rape joke involving Brent, Kid Nate, and Anton. I’d get banned, fired, and possibly killed by Luke Thomas/Matt Brown.
Also, the UFC sets itself up for disaster with this Twitter bonus nonsense.
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Unless the fight hits the ground
Then you can promptly submit Luke Thomas/Matt Brown.
by dv8shun on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So as long as you're trying to be funny...
it’s ok.
How about you create a twitter account with your name and your company’s name, then make inconsiderate jokes about rape. When you get fired, try to bring that weak shit to the table and let me know how it goes.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Again, Carlin represented Carlin and was performing in a stand-up context. Torres is representing the UFC. That’s a pretty big difference
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Technically he is an independent contractor. He doesn’t have any kind of official position with the UFC.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 5:51 AM EST up reply actions
Your right...
…..as of yesterday.
You have made your point perfectly, though probably not the point you were trying to make.
by Snake_Pliskan on Dec 9, 2011 6:56 AM EST up reply actions
If it wasn’t the point I was trying to make, how did I make my point perfectly?
Like Chewbacca living on Endor, that makes no sense.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 7:01 AM EST up reply actions
So he's not an employee of the UFC?
Don’t they sign multi-fight contracts with the UFC? Have clauses that say they can’t fight for any other organization? Are protected by UFC provided insurance inside and outside of the cage?
Sounds like an employee to me.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I saw that too, haha. His 11% striking accuracy rating for his last fight would beg to disagree!
by Horselover Fat on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
It depends what the target it.
I land 100% shadowboxing.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Which is a marketing tool the UFC has embraced and through which the fighters represent the company. I mean, people get fired for shit they say on twitter from other jobs too. It’s not like this is rare.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Miguel was expendable and he should have known that. I’m pretty sure he knows that he can be easily replaced if he is relegated to a Facebook prelim, so don’t fuck that up. And he did. Although I don’t think he should have been fired.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think after what Forrest went thru, the way it went mainstream, and then Miguel doesn’t just double down, he quadruples down on what Forrest did and tells people to stop being so sensitive. What else is Dana supposed to do in the face of that kind of brazen disregard?
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Why is Forrest still a big draw
The man hasn’t convincingly won a fight since that middleweight he fought and even that wasn’t a pretty win.
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Well said. The UFC/Dana can’t have these quotes from fighters coming up every time they do interviews/shows to promote their product. Miguel should’ve been smart enough to know this, especially after the Forrest Griffin situation, and if he needed an official small piece of paper that said “don’t do this!” in order to restrain himself from making rape jokes, well that’s just sad. Obviously, common sense isn’t for everyone.
Guys, look at the positives here!
He’ll be amazing in Bellator.
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by sklart on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
HA! I was just telling people that. He’ll be a really good signing there.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
you dont think this is one of Dan's fits?
and he’ll be back in the UFC in a week?
by Ricardo Arguello on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they can right now. It’d be seen as very weak. I don’t think they’re in love with Torres anyway. His fighting style was pissing them off.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Future Bellator bantamweight champion.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
If he doesn't get trucked over there.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Miguel can contend at UFC BW anymore
Cruz, Barao, possibly Faber, and Benavidez (who already beat him) all have the skills to beat him if not dominate him.
The division got better over time so the days of beating Manny Tapia for the title are long gone.
He’d kick ass in Bellator, though.
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Yeah. All you have to do in Bellator is beat a guy like Ed West for a title shot. No problem.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Weird shit happens in MMA all the time.
Just saying.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Gus Johnson taught you well.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’d sub Warren.. god I hope he subs Warren if they ever fight.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Torres would sub Warren.
Makovsky presents an interesting style matchup, and Torres might drop a decision to him but win the real fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
He'll be a good measuring stick
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I like Torres but Zach Makovsky would give him fits.
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by RagingNoodles on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
No
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I've always thought Miguel wasnt funny
He always seemed to be trying so hard to be funny. This is a perfect example of how hard he reaches to be ‘funny’
by Ricardo Arguello on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions
If Dominic Cruz keeps winning
And Miguel wins big in Bellator (which he probably will), we’ll have a good old fashioned dream fight situation.
Read: Toblerone Jones
Man
That was the fight I wanted all along, too.
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
You spelled "Barao" wrong.
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by SSreporters on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
brilliant!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking too
and we never got Faber/Torres
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That's what I've been saying
Sigh..
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by Charles Awad on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if the UFC will take Torres back in the future. I can see him in Bellator and doing well. However, I wonder if this is something that will be forgiven and that Zuffa will take him back, or is he absolutely done with the company.
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This is a terrible reason to fire someone. If I was a fighter, I wouldn't even use Twitter after this.
Your Career is more important than anything else in your life as a fighter and messing it up outside of the cage, is just asanine.
My opinion>Your onion.
by Tairy Hesticles on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Use Twitter SMARTLY
Don’t make dumbass remarks and then no one will have a problem!
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Pretty much this ^
My opinion>Your onion.
by Tairy Hesticles on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know how you guys ddo it.
Twitter sounds like such a fucking nightmare.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I like it
I mostly use it on my phone, it’s a quick way to get MMA news
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I make dumbass remarks all the time
But I don’t represent a multi million dollar company, so there’s that.
I just started earlier in the week
I’m not a texter so I’m doing all of this on the computer. It’s kinda annoying to suppress my thoughts when they’re already brief.
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idiots with jobs shouldn't use twitter
normal people (normal idiots) have lost their normal jobs for less than what Torres did.
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by dbcb on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Facebook as well.
It’s easy to get fired, especially if you have someone at your job on your friends list. All it takes in one good rumor. I’d rather not even test it.
My opinion>Your onion.
by Tairy Hesticles on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Change your name to a nickname/change privacy settings
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A lot of people don't realize it
But it’s just as easy to not get hired because of your FB and twitter. Many employers check this before hiring.
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I should probably tone down my twitter...
…I’m part of one of the least-trusted demographics in the country…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I've never heard speculation on the trustworthiness of girl-sounding dudes.
Pretty low, huh?
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My voice isn't that high!
It’s not overly deep, but I’m not a castrato!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
true
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 9, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely agree.
This social media is a hand grenade just ready to explode, some people would sometimes be better off if they keep shit to themselves and not spouting it everywhere all the time.
by Maclovio Williams on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's rather simple.
Rashad and Forrest make money for the UFC. Torres doesn’t.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I'm hearing that Miguel wasn't cut because the tweet was offensive.
He was cut because it was such an unfunny joke.
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by pdl on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
he woulda been cut a loooong time ago...
if quality of joke was any sort of criteria….
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bazinga!
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And Derek Brunson wouldn’t even get a spot on a Challengers card if that was the case as well.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Which line are you referring to?
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Is there anyone here in the NYC area that wants to join my new band:
Twitter Rape Joke?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Don Henley.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
He wouldn't pass the audition.
Maybe if he wanted to finance us if I let him play tambourine….
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
You in the NYC area? I’m trying to move there soon. In a perfect world, I’m gonna sign up at Renzo’s Academy. You train there?
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
used to.
If you want any info on moving here let me know.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I would. Email or in front of God and everybody?
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
hit me up at....
jackietreehornstrampoline at g mail
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Done. Much appreciated, sir.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been thinking about training there as well.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 5:54 AM EST up reply actions
You gonna get raped should be a song
"Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes" Groucho Marx
by KimboLeopoldo on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
"Every Breath You Take" by the Police?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, really?
Gotta check it.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
More stalker-ish than rapey, but yeah...
“Every Breath You Take”
Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I’ll be watching you
Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I’ll be watching you
O can’t you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches with every step you take
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I’ll be watching you
Since you’ve gone I been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but it’s you I can’t replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby please
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I’ll be watching you
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
more stalking song....
than raping.
If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.
by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
It’s fucking weird how many people get married to this song.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Actually it is quite fitting...
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
It helps explains the divorce rate.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Bazinga!
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
seriously.
nutjobs.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Listening to it right now.
and it is fucking creepy.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I feel old.
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by cmons on Dec 8, 2011 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm on Fire...Bruce Springsteen
downright creepy
“Hey little girl is your daddy home
Did he go away and leave you all alone
I got a bad desire
I’m on fire
Tell me now baby is he good to you
Can he do to you the things that I do
I can take you higher
I’m on fire
Sometimes it’s like someone took a knife baby
edgy and dull and cut a six-inch valley
through the middle of my soul
At night I wake up with the sheets soaking wet
and a freight train running through the
middle of my head
Only you can cool my desire
I’m on fire"
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No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
8 Romantic Songs You Didn't Know Were About Rape
http://www.cracked.com/article_18431_8-romantic-songs-you-didnt-know-were-about-rape.html
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 9, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Rape Me?
Nirvana?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Touch Me?
Doors?
"Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes" Groucho Marx
by KimboLeopoldo on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Skip to 3:50 in this song. If you can't make out the words I can translate from METAL to English.
It’s the most awesomely brutal thing. Sorry about the Myspace link.
http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=26616551&ac=now
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...what...?
“Smell of flesh seeping through the floor”?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
1) that’s the loudest kick drum I’ve ever heard in a mix.
2) I couldn’t make out anything other than “rotting in the yard, flesh seeping through the floor….”
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXIuAz7aryo
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
It was some local nothing band me and some buddies found on Myspace years ago. Lyrics are as follows:
I broke her hymen, I broke her jaw
I left her body writhing in the attic
the smell of flesh still seeping through the floor
I hope my leg stays on.
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I thought he said, "I poked her eye out"
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
"Jesus..."
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The Dude does NOT abide
Rape jokes
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by hardlyworking on Dec 9, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Wow
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ever since the band Carcass went through medical dictionaries for song names
death metal bands have been stepping up their hilariously brutal shit. A few buddies and I used to get shithouse drunk after writing a good song and just come up with the most vile things we could get our singer to say over. Just so grotesque that you couldn’t feel bad about it anymore because you went so far over the top. It’s a lot harder with clean vocals, but when we had guys doing screams we got away with some really disturbing songs in a few church venues. I forget the exact phrasing but the second verse of a song was about cutting off some guys wife’s arm and using it to violate his high school sweetheart while he watched and she told him it felt better than anything he had ever done with her, then slapping him with said disembodied wife-arm.
Not sure anybody will believe this, but I used to drink a lot more…
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AC is the king of over-the-top shit.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I can...
Attest to that. Guys from Cannibal Corpse once talked about how they took a moment to consider if they were taking things too far.
And yes, Scott, AC is beyond anything, haha.
by Sergio Hernandez on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
The only metal bands that take it too far are the Scandinavian black metal bands...
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I never got into metal of just about any flavor, so I had little idea. Makes a lot of what people attacked my precious hip hop groups over seem fairly tame.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Irony is their friend.
I doubt anyone thinks they’re serious. Rappers, on the hand, celebrate stuff they actually do.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair... Varg Vikernes exists.
Oh yeah, and he’s out of jail now.
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Wow...
How…?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I guess 21 years is the maximum sentence for murdering a guitarist in Norway.
And somehow he got parole a few years early, despite his prison escape. I honestly think somebody in the Norwegian judicial system woke up and thought “You know what would make the world more interesting? Putting that Count Grishnackh dude back in it.”
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I BELIEVE
“Until The Light Takes Us”, a great documentary on Varg and Fenris, is streaming on Netflix, or it was a few weeks ago.
by bigstupidsmile on Dec 9, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
That’s exactly right, they don’t have any real “life-time” sentences, 21 years is the maximum.
There is some speculation that that’s the reason why Anders Behring Breivik was deemed criminally insane (they claimed paranoid schizophrenia, which doesn’t really make sense if you look at how methodical and able he’s been). Because then he’ll be sentenced to, what’s it called.. mental hospital for criminals, instead of jail. Such a sentencing doesn’t have any timelimit to how long he’ll be there. Rest assured it’s going to be a lot longer than 21 years.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 9, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cannibal Corpse is one of the more successful death metal bands for sales.
They are really talented, technical musicians. You probably remember them as the band Jim Carey jumped on stage for in Ace Ventura. At actual shows the singer also proudly announces “THIS IS A SONG ABOUT SHOOTING BLOOD FROM YOUR COCK!” before they play the song I Cum Blood. Video evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E9OW4CzaFc
And they aren’t all that bad.
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Thanks for the input. Now I understand more the origins of Anal Vomit (a band from my country that freaked me out in 1993). I was very young at that time.
by king of the dogs on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
And people say romance is dead...
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I've got dibs on cowbell
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sorry dude.
My rig has mad cowbells.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Already called dibs. Un-rig them
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The Season 2, 3 and 4 Cat Molesting CHAMPION!
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FINE!
But only because this is the only way to cure your fever….
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
The Season 4 BE rec’ing CHAMPION!
The Season 1 Blow the Staff CHAMPION!
The Season 2, 3 and 4 Cat Molesting CHAMPION!
The reigning and defending Transgendered S&M CHAMPION!
And the soon to be Ugly-Ass Ben Saunders Shirt Buying CHAMPION!
by Chris Hall on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
considering it's an all-triangle ensemble...
YES!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
...the pink triangle!!!
Hey-oh!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Are you referring to the whispering eye, sir?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
There needs to be a song written in C major called Putting Things
and a reprise where you change the key to give it a darker feel. It will have to be titled Putting Things (in A Minor).
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by pdl on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Penn State Fight Song?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
c'mon.
You know if you want to darken a feel, you have to go with Dm, the saddest of keys.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Then it would be in Fmaj for the original.
Like, I guess we could do it in D Dorian which is a minor mode and can still be called A minor.
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wait...
is it possible that you;re not fluent in Spinal Tap? I thought for sure that you were…
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Man, I draw the number 11 on my amps.
Just trying to make the initial joke Spinal Tap Compliant.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
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y'know...
since I posted the Used to Love Her link, I’ve been listening to G n’ R tunes, for the first time in a while…. can you think of any band that shot to the top of the world music scene with as brutal an album as Appetite, then came out with as different an album than Lies for their 2nd release? I just had an epiphany as to how remarkable that is, after all these years….
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Such a good band…minus The Spaghetti Incident?
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Once they kicked Steven Adler out...
and Gilby Clarke and Matt Sorum played on half of Use Your illusion, the mystique was gone. Both Use Your Illusions had their moments, but Spaghetti Incident was bunk. Except for the Manson cover. I loved that shit.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Look At Your Game Girl is such a damn awesome song. Axl sounded really good on it.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I can't express to you...
what it was like being 9 years old when Appetite came out, and just having your head split open by that music…. I created my own imaginary band whose first hit was called “Livin in Tough L.A.” I am not embarrassed at all by this fact!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I listened to that album when I was like 13 or 14…boy. Some perverse, but utterly awesome stuff on there. Like hearing the story that he actually mic’ed himself up fucking some girl on Rocket Queen?
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
IN THE STUDIO!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
And it was Adler’s girlfriend!
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
No!
I never heard that part!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yep!
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeeeeap!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Nice memories. My dad gave me that album as a birthday present when I was a kid. I wasn’t even aware of its existence.
by king of the dogs on Dec 8, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I find GnR dull.
I think they’re a right-place-right-time band. They debuted right when people were tiring of hair metal, but alt/grunge hadn’t fully changed rock music yet. Had GnR been at any other time, I doubt they would have done as well.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Blaphemer!
You can say that about every band ever! Guns was sick, and I think that Use Your Illusion shows that they could’ve adapted if Axl wasn’t such a nutbag…. but zeitgeist was a huge part of my enjoyment of them, for sure.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
"Blaphemer!" - God damn right!
Disagree. I think some bands would have hit big no matter when. GnR was radio friendly and filled just the right niche.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
LOL- blaphemer!
Have you ever heard It’s So Easy? they wrote hits, but much of their shit is not radio friendly….
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
I've heard all of AOD.
It’s stuff like Welcome to the Jungle, Sweet Child, or November Rain. Very friendly. When I was 9, it was 1996, so I came of age after Nirvana et al deflated pop-rock, so the mystique of GnR wasn’t there for me by the time I developed my musical tastes.
Though, when I was a teen, it was the height of nu-metal… shudder…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
You loved Limp Bizkit...
didn’t you? Korn?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Shut up! Don't judge me!
Though I defend the Deftones endlessly. Fucking heavy band.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
too late!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone in here see Valhalla Rising?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
That movie was fucking odd. I dug it, but still seriously askew.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
I like 60’s and 70’s R&B and funk a bit better, personally. But I think GnR is a good band. Songwriting can be really epic, as well as good music behind it.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Tell me you listen to the Meters....
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I do not, but I am on Spotify and have no plans for tonight/tomorrow. I shall check them out. I am on a James Brown, Prince, and Morris Day and The Time kick at the moment.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
add...
The Meters, Cymande, and Fela Kuti to that mix.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I shall. Any key songs?
And if you don’t like James Brown…I just don’t know. His music has so much soul that I feel like I have soul.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
That's why I gave you those band names...
if you can hear them without moving some part of your body, you’re autistic or souless. Especially Fela. The Meters invented New Orleans funk, Cymande is a British/American/African psychadelic funk band and Fela is an Oxford educated Nigerian who invented Afrobeat music, rebelled against the military state of Nigeria and formed his own country in the middle of Lagos that seceded from Nigeria proper, then got attacked by the Nigerian military! Listen to 3 songs buy each and I guarantee you’ll be hooked.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Fela's 'Gentleman' is awesome.
I’m glad you’re one of the few people whose posts I actually read.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
A little small, but you get the message
Just imagine it’s the kitten.
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by Rundownloser on Dec 8, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dorian is a very sweet, pretty sounding mode.
You’re prolly looking for C# harmonic minor.
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by SanFranpsycho on Dec 9, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
i still have a pair of drumsticks
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 9, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Bad move from Dana.
WHO ELSE will draw in the Hispanic markets? I’m sorry, but I’m Mexican, and Mexicans absolutely LOVE Miguel Torres. Most Mexican look like him, and he fights like a Mexican. Cain Velasquez is dull and uninteresting. So much for the Hispanic demographic.
If eating meat causes my brother to sin, I will eat vegetables forever.
No, no. Lee Van Cleef is not a Mexican.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
This is such a ridiculous remark I don't even know where to start
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
“He fights like a Mexican.”
If people start misspelling things, does that mean they are a northern Englishman?
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
But badly.
He does stupid shit like a “Mexican” ought to fight, though: With persistence.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Well, does it mean aggressively or something? Because if that is the case…Miguel is fighting awfully French-Canadian lately.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Generally it means gutsy, unafraid to be hit, pressure fighting..etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
A tear comes to my face when I remember Chavez.
He brought loads of joy to my childhood household whenever he crushed someone.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
His kid isn’t nearly as good, but he fights like hell
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ya.
No hunger. But it is kinda to be expected due to him not being born dirt poor.
Omar shows the bigger promise, I think.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like this is going to be like
mma intellegence all over again.
Wrong, bub.
I’m also mexican and I find Miguel absolutely unengaging and annoying.
He barely keeps me engaged at all. In fact, this thread is the most engaged I’ve ever been in Miguel Torres, so nope. You can’t speak for all of us.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm American and I don't like budweiser much
But I will admit it’s pretty popular here.
Read: Toblerone Jones
Well, we don't even know who Miguel Torres is, to be honest.
‘Fight fan’ means ‘boxing fan’ over here. Miguel is a speck of dust in Canelo’s shoe.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know this for a fact, so disregard
But I bet the dude’s huge in Chicago.
Read: Toblerone Jones
eeeehhhhh….kinda?
As someone who lived there for quite some time and still visits often. He’s not a huge deal.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
No mixed martial artist truly is save for a few, it could be said.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's the subtle difference
Rashad’s thing was “I am going to rape Davis in the octagon”. Torres’ thing was “I am going to drug and rape a woman”.
There’s a difference, DUCY?
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by FightingFighting on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 PM EST reply actions
I don’t condone the remarks, but the punishment is way overboard. I could understand if they were directed at a specific person or group of people, but they weren’t. Hopefully Torres is back in the UFC quickly.
by BilboMcFonzie on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
fucking twitter
this sucks, but how can someone be so dumb? He had to have known he would get in shit for not only posting it once, but multiple times.
If you read the rest of his posts
he was egging on people too. Saying that he had the right to say whatever he wants.
Like his mullet, Miguel Torres is dumb as fuck.
Torres said a terrible joke where people were offended
and instead of apologizing or whatever he decided to keep making up shitty rape jokes.
This is his fault for being fucking retarded and unfunny.
does bisping have a twitter?
Maybe we will get lucky and he’ll get cut next. Oh wait, he’s too busy being an ass in person.
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PRECISELY!
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
You are correct about that last part.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
c'mon...
you know that that myth was dispelled using our intellegence.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I don't know. 8 out of 12 people would disagree with you.
That comes out to 80%.
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by mountaineers101 on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think his usage of te word 'intellegence' was a dead giveaway.
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by Unabomberman on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about whether cutting Miguel Torres for this is the best business decision. I don’t know to what extent the jokes will have a negative impact on the UFC, and also don’t know to what extent cutting Miguel Torres as a result will have a positive impact on the UFC. One thing is for sure: this further devalues the sport aspect of the UFC, since one of the best fighters of a division is no longer employed by the UFC, and lost his job for non-sporting reasons. So, like I said, I don’t know whether overall, this is the best business decision. It’s hard to say.
What I do hate is that our society has not advanced enough to a point where Miguel’s jokes don’t matter. I hate that unimportant jokes like the ones Miguel told damage the UFC’s image due to people’s beliefs regarding “morals” and “political correctness”. Even Bloodyelbow, which, despite the terrible name, is one the smartest MMA communities on the Internet, posts ridiculous articles about how Forrest’s and Rashad’s jokes are “wrong” and also unfunny (as though “wrong” and funny are direct opposites).
I think they needed someone to make an example of
Forrest was a ‘first offense’ and his was taken out of context and he did donate to a rape crisis center and etc.
Evans was a heat of the moment where him and Phil were going back and forth…and I think when you tell Rashad that he has no chin that you really start to get him pissed. I remember when Rampage made stanky leg jokes…
Torres, if he had been the FIRST guy to do it…wouldn’t have been horrible…it also probably wouldn’t have been as bad if he seemed sorry.
But no, he made a few rape-related sort of tweets(99 nos and a yes, your eyes say no but my roofies say yes)
Didn’t seem sorry about it, didn’t seem to have any excuse for context…he just blatantly spat out a few rape jokes
Then he reposted the same one in a bit of a subdued manner…and he doesn’t seem sorry.
But all of this was AFTER attention had already been called to rape jokes on Twitter…the UFC is clearly not cool with it, everyone should have watched their Ps and Qs…and Torres didn’t
So yeah, he was repeatedly a sort of smar-ass douche about the situation, unapologetic is probably a key thing. Like when Daley was a smartass and said ‘I didn’t hear the bell’ after his sucker punch.
Being a smartass is one of the worst ways to conduct business and deal with issues when it is time to be serious.
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by Chris Groves on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
upsetting to say the least
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He said something even worse,"Your mouth says no but my GHB says yes." or something like that was way worse I thought, I'm surprised that isn't being brought up.
Fining him is what should be done with a warning that if he ever does it again he’d be fired. I mean Griffen wasn’t fired, nor Rashad. Why Torres?
The law was laid down with the Forrest incident, and Forrest apologized, donated to a crisis center, and shut the hell up.
Torres kept at it and shrugged when he should have known better.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
well
well they were looking for a reason to release Torres. he’ll be in Bellator soon
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alright this has gone WAY TOO FAR.
I dont care how UFC fighters verbally conduct themselves.
Rape is the most sadistic crime on earth, infact after murder i would list it as the worst thing a person can do, in several cases it is worse than murder because of the victims after effects.
I dont expect UFC fighters to be ambassadors of light and purity like they are supposed to be some fucking Jedis.
As much as Zuffa wants it to be this way, and i know they want to be legal in NYC and stuff, they did this to themselves. Dont give bonuses to people who tweet shit, they encouraged their own roster to ‘say anything’ for 5k bonuses.
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my god..
…the amount of shit I say to people… If i was in the UFC, Dana might physically hurt me. I think this is ridiculous. Words are different than actions. I understand the UFC’s position in keeping what fighters say in check but come on. Favoritism at it’s worst. everyone knows that all 3 of these fighters had the same thing in mind when they said what they said, it’s just a matter who can bullshit themselves out of a situation. People who make rape jokes aren’t promoting or condoning rape.
I guess Dana isn’t a fan of South Park or any show with equivalent racy comments.
Welcome to the Fox era of UFC
But with that said, Torres got what’s coming.
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What about Griffin and Evans?
Being a UFC champ is probably Torres’ dream. He sees a couple of off the cuff comments and he twitters one himself. Now his fucking dreams are shattered. Unless I see otherwise, Dana didn’t even speak with him or have anyone speak with him about the matter. If it’s a major issue then talk with the fucking guy about it and give him one more chance. I assure you Miguel would straighten that shit out real quick. Instead Dana does one of his usual “be all, end all” comments that he won’t back down on.
UFC wants to be taken seriously
If any player from any major sports league did this, it would be all over ESPN and major news outlets and that player would be out of a job. Rape is serious no matter what the context. I understand it was a joke from It’s Always Sunny. But it’s 2011. It’s unacceptable, use some common sense. Rape isn’t funny and Twitter is the wrong platform for something like that.
And it’s not like Torres isn’t an unimportant fighter either. He’s obviously nowhere near as popular or as big a name as Griffin or Evans, but it’s not like he’s some nobody, he’s won a couple of fights in the UFC, and is a former WEC champion. If I had to bet on it, I would guess Torres will be back in the UFC eventually. He made a mistake and he paid for it.
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next dumb tweet?
Who do you guys is next to make a dumb rape joke and get fired. Personally I can totally see Matt Mitrione doing it
by Sonnens Political Adviser on Dec 8, 2011 11:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
figure it out
you’re Sonnen’s political advisor.
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by Sonnens Political Adviser on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Torres is the only one whose jokes was about how he personally rapes people.
I think that sort of makes it worse.
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by InfamousProfessorPlum on Dec 9, 2011 1:18 AM EST reply actions
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 9, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/12/08/dana-white-discusses-why-he-released-miguel-torres-over-tweet/
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I don't know if I'm late to the party, but I need to comment before I real all of them.
Forrest did it, and it may have.not been on all the news channels but Rashad and Torres must of knew what the backlash was. I don’t find Rashad’s “joke” so offensive but Torres and Griffin are poking fun at something that destroys lives, minimizing it, as if it’s no big deal.
I’ve read every article lately about the different people joking about rape and the support of Sandusky, and it’s disgusting. I’ve seen some of you say it’s no big deal and that it’s an overreaction. I’ve not experienced rape personally or know people who have but it’s not something to be made a joke of. I think the only way these people will understand the seriousness of it is if a female in their family was raped.
Call me sensitive or what ever you want but it’s disturbing that grown men in the public eye would be so stupid to talk like that about such a serious issue. Joke with your friends in a private place but don’t make an organization and sport that has built your career and paid your career look bad. They are stupid, stupid men and whoever else in the UFC wants to joke about it should be fired, as well.
by anamal on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Oh fuck. some mistakes. *read & *paid your bills
& whatever else I messed up on. I’m sure you get the point.
by anamal on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh fuck. some mistakes. *read & *paid your bills
& whatever else I messed up on. I’m sure you get the point.
by anamal on Dec 9, 2011 2:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am OK with joking about anything and everything, but I also know there's a venue, and you shouldn't do that when you're with the UFC.
So he deserves to be cut, but again, there’s no standard here. That being said, they had to start somewhere. Right now, Dana White is a hypocrite. If someone does this shit again and he cuts them too, then he’s still a hypocrite, but for different reasons.
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Dana's double standards are straight up bullshit.
Criminals are cool and keep their jobs, ppl say much worse and keep their jobs, but
but this disgusting and ultimately failed attempt at a joke directed at no one in particular is worthy of being fired.
Miguel Torres is the UFC’s sacrificial mullet.
Another thing, the UFC encourages its fighters to tweet stuff by giving out bonuses to the guys with the most followers. If anything they bear some responsibility for these guys trying to go all out just to get followers.
He then has the gall to say “unless you’re a comedian you shouldn’t even be making jokes”. What does he want them doing on twitter then…
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You know, there’s more to twitter than rape jokes… look at Sonnen, he does it the right way. He promotes his fight, he insults his opponents, he insults Anderson Silva, he insults Brazil, but he does it in a smart and usually very funny way.
His rants regarding Brazil are borderline racist! As a matter of fact I’m sure some would consider them racist.
by Fedornuthugger on Dec 9, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
OK, his rant against Brazilians. And you you exchange the word for racist with bigoted. Basically all the same!
by Fedornuthugger on Dec 9, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
+1
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by doonerthesooner on Dec 9, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
On the topic- a guy who commits a felony while under contract with the UFC (a clearly immoral as well as illegal act), a guy who took a banned substance without proper documentation, a guy who lies, and who (jokingly or not) makes xenophobic comments retains his job and is glorified by Dana White and fans such as yourself. On the other hand Miguel Torres makes an off base “joke” in reference to a TV show (not illegal) and is fired.
Why cause his explanation was bad? Do you think Chael was able to give a good explanation for why he defrauded his customers?
ITS BULL SHIT
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this is GREAAAT for torres...
dude went from top 5 p4p, to barely cared about in the bw division in the last like 2.5 years.
let him go to bellator, go to japan, make some more money, build his brand back up (especially amongst the idiotic ufc haters who always rank guys like kid yamamato, akiyama, hansen, zaromskis, and aoki in the top 5)
if you ask me torres just made the worlds most successful stolen rape joke of all time!!!!!!
Such bullshit
Not even a Torres fan but this is just some grade A level bullshit.
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by We All Hate Caleb on Dec 9, 2011 3:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Onkel Dana
He had to make an example of someone, so he choose the undercard fighter that just had a pretty boring fight.. Smart move, you have to take to account what you win and what you lose. This cut is a win.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
These were Dana’s words verbatim in the interview. It’s sad Miguel lost his job, it sounds like he caught the brunt of Dana’s frustration over all these incidents. It was the 3rd incident Dana had to deal with, he was fed up. I must say that to fire Miguel and not even punish Rashad who also made an extremely inappropriate comment does not sound fair to me. I believe Rashad’s comment was just as bad as he was making light of real world rape, Miguel was making light of a television show. I am not blaming Dana, he is doing what he feels he has to do for the good of the company and lets be honest Miguel did a stupid thing. My only hope would be that Miguel is allowed to come back or that Rashad is also punished. I’ve got a feeling Dana is going to catch a lot of heat for this in firing one fighter and not even punishing another for very similar offenses.
Finally . . . . . . . Couldn't stand that guy.
He sucked as fighter too.
Go Dana.
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He did the right thing. Torres sucked as fighter. Its nice I don’t have to see his face again in the UFC.
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by We All Hate Caleb on Dec 9, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Your argument was invalid after the second sentence. Torres will probably be
BW champ in a year at Bellator. So when he does become one please do remember your words.
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by Tairy Hesticles on Dec 9, 2011 6:02 AM EST up reply actions
Dana was probably being his emotional self
when he decided to cut Torres on the air. A punishment should have been dished out, but expulsion is a tad too harsh. A suspension was all that would have been needed to send a message.
If you read Torres’s Twitter it’s obvious that he didn’t give a shit that people where offended by the joke. Complaining about people being too up tight and stuff. He doesn’t get it. As this sport gets bigger and bigger these fighters are going to have to start realising how despensible they are in the grand scheme of things.
He shouldn’t. If people don’t want to hear from Miguel Torres they don’t have to follow him on twitter.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 7:02 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t follow anyone, yet by coming here I hear about all their tweets, tweets don’t stay on tweeter.
You don’t have to visit this site either. Can you choose to pretty much ignore anything.
by discoandherpes on Dec 9, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
That's not how it works.
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Allow me to sum it up
1) This is bullshit, Dana is a hypocrite.
2) No he isn’t.
3) Rape jokes are okay.
4) No they aren’t.
You’re welcome.
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Ehhhh...IDK
The Forrest Griffin made sense after he explained how he came to it. At first it was like “Whoaa,” but he explained his self. The Rashad thing was a case of “too soon” but it was in the heat of the moment at a conference. This joke though…“everyone likes surprises.” To me it comes off kinda creepy lol, if that quote is from a show then he shouldn’t be kicked out I guess…but you can’t make rape jokes…unless you’re a paid raunchy comedian and it’s expected of you to say stuff like that…But there’s still always a line….Torres might of crossed it
This is bull shit. It’s a fairly common joke to talk about rape vans. Its been on Always Sunny and Workaholics. I think what Rashad and Forrest said was way more offensive than this but they aren’t bantamweights so of course it was ok. The hypocrisy of Dana here pisses me off.
by zstraub65 on Dec 9, 2011 8:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I wish I lived in a world
where fighters wouldn’t do shit to put rape jokes in the headlines two days in a row.
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Just close your eyes and ears, it’s all good.
by Fedornuthugger on Dec 9, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
There is a huge difference between...
What Torres did and what Forrest and Rashad did. Rashad made a simile saying he is going to put his hands on a grown man in the fashion of the Penn state people. Forrest said something that actually had meaning, he just said it in a vague and questionable way. Torres essentially condoned rape, and actively hinted that he will rape women and roofie them and whatnot.
You are right
Rashad literally said he was going to rape someone like a little boy; the other two just implied rape in jokes.
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by Ionnes on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Damn.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 9, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions
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