Strikeforce's Scott Coker Optimistic About New Showtime Deal, No Announcement Yet
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 6, 2011 3:00 PM EST
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Scott Coker talked today on the media call for Melendez vs. Masvidal about Strikeforce's future on Showtime. While he said that there was nothing to announce in terms of a new deal, he did seem to suggest that things were progressing well and his tone suggested that the promotion had a future on the network.
He also said that they hope to conclude the heavyweight Grand Prix in March if Daniel Cormier has fully recovered from his broken hand.
In expanding upon the Showtime situation, Coker said:
In the history of Strikeforce since the relationship with Showtime was developed, we put on, I think some of the best fights in the history of MMA.
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We've done our part to grow the sport, and that's going to continue. There's still a lot of great fighters on the roster. And we're going to keep building these fighters. We're going to continue putting on great fights. To me, that's not going to change. So everybody can tune into Showtime and watch in 2012, and we're going to put on some amazing, amazing fights.
It sounds like things are still positive with the Showtime/Strikeforce relationship even with the changes at the top of Showtime Sports, but until the deal is signed and announced it's hard to say with any certainty what the future looks like.
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Outside of using it to snipe prospects that would normally end up in Bellator, what does Zuffa gain from continuing to put on Strikeforce events?
Another distinct brand.
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Good business decision.
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by POW on Dec 6, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes!!!!!
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I remember it.
All too well. That shit was gross.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Dec 6, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
that shit was....
amazing. I felt so futuristic drinking it.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 6, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
I MISS CRYSTAL PEPSI!!!
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by Papercut Elbow on Dec 7, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
A place to build up guys the way they did with Nick, Reem, Gil etc that can eventually lead to big fights as they grow.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Dec 6, 2011 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really hope
they keep Strikeforce around and use it like a minor league/ farm team
Plus more free fights is never a bad thing.
"The fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection."
Yep.
It makes far more sense to use Strikeforce as a feeder organization than it did WEC.
by StephenDedalus on Dec 6, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
The UFC prelims could function in a similar manner if Zuffa was a little more liberal with cutting guys that have no business being in the UFC.
by discoandherpes on Dec 6, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the difference is that UFC prelims are on FaceBook, whereas Strikeforce has a deal with Showtime.
The UFC has trouble building stars. What better way than to have your feeder league aired on television.
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by POW on Dec 6, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
It’s more than that. Strikeforce allowed fighters a certain amount of freedom to do other things they wouldn’t be allowed to do in the UFC. Reem won K-1, Josh Barnett just worked a pro wrestling match. Gil, Mousasi, Kharitonov, Nick worked in Japan, all the guys who competed in ADCC or BJJ world championships, etc. Daley fighting for BAMMA. It helped all of them grow and some became stars which made it make sense for the UFC to make them offers that has them focused on the Octagon only.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Dec 6, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yet if they’re worth anything they’ll have to give all that stuff up anyway.
by discoandherpes on Dec 6, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
When the UFC is ready to make it worth their while.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Dec 6, 2011 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They keep another potential competitor off of Showtime
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by aaronb on Dec 6, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Damn
now that’s some thinking right there!
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by soilworker on Dec 6, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and a big fuck you to the M-1 team.
nothing major, but i like it.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Dec 6, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
At this point, is Showtime really good option? I hear they pay very little for their MMA programming. I doubt any small organization on Showtime is really competition for the UFC.
by discoandherpes on Dec 6, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Strikeforce used Showtime
To go from a thousand dollar start-up to being a profitable promotion that was bought out for 40 million dollars in less than 3 years.
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Does anyone take anything Scott Coker says at face value?
by JAYGK95 on Dec 6, 2011 3:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nobody should ever take anything a promotor says at face value.
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by pud333 on Dec 6, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
True, but however nice Coker is, I take what he says at half to three fourths of a grain of sand.
by JAYGK95 on Dec 6, 2011 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take it at face value. He's basically saying "I don't know what's going to happen, but here are some ideas."
It’s the same thing Coker has always said regarding decisions/situations that are out of his control.
Cormier
Why wait for Cormier and his injury while they didn’t want to wait for Overeem’s injury to heal up and cut him instead? Consistency isn’t a strong suit of Strikeforce…
Dan is in the finals. They can't end it without him.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 6, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And it was all a conspiracy
to get Overeem to the UFC.
^ This
It was such a ridiculous situation
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Don't worry, I'm sure Coker will issue a statement in a week or so...
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Or just have the Challenger Series. Barnett, Cormier, Lawal, Gergard, Woodley, Kennedy, Rockholt and JAcare would be nice additions to the UFC’s roster. All the young guys can stay until they’re ready for the UFC.
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That is a good idea
There will be more young guys to replace the current young guys when the current young guys grow in popularity and are ready for UFC caliber fights.
by Andy Anderson on Dec 6, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they should return Strikeforce to its kickboxing roots. Give stateside kickboxing another try!
by Pyrgz Krum on Dec 6, 2011 4:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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