UFC 141 Video: Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle Create Comedic Gold
by Matthew Roth on Dec 27, 2011 11:59 AM EST
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PrintYesterday I brought you the WWE television debut of Brock Lesnar. Lesnar's character was created to be an unstoppable monster who was absolutely ruthless. At the time of his debut he was kept far away from the microphone and wasn't allowed to showcase any of his personality. When the WWE finally entered him in a program with future MMA star Kurt Angle, Lesnar had firmly established himself as the company's heavyweight champion. Angle, the Olympic champion, was one of the best people on the microphone in the WWE.
This backstage segment is a personal favorite of mine. For as much as MMA fans and pro-wrestling fans hate to admit, Lesnar has some amazing solid comedic timing. At this point in his career he was no longer the ruthless monster. Lesnar and Angle worked well together inside and out of the ring. In fact, some of Brock's best matches were with Angle.
The whole bit is fantastic from Brock throwing a cookie in the air and catching it to the banter between the WWE champion and the Olympic champion. Adding the female to the segment created a dynamic between the two that allowed both to bring up their past accomplishments. Lesnar's exit and then return to slap Angle on the back is gold. It's just one of those segments that allowed Lesnar to show that he's more than a mountain of muscle. It's true. It's damn true.
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That's classic.
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Wtf is this….
"UFC is so gay, pride is awesome!"
by Hendo_One-Shot on Dec 27, 2011 12:06 PM EST reply actions
This is what I saw in my head when I read your post.
by Sqwibbs on Dec 27, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lmao
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Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
Too bad Kurt Angle had whatever issues he had at the end of his WWE run because he was great on the mic and in the ring... wish he held it together.
Seeing what’s left of him on TNA is like watching the zombie of Kurt Angle… btn the divorce and having his personal life as story lines in TNA…then the multiple DUI’s, the MMA pipe dreams and wrestling in the olympics again this guy seems like he’s just a lost soul with so many able resources he can actually attempt to do the bat shit crazy things that pop into his mind…
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Him and Chris Benoit are probably the greatest professional wrestlers of their generation.
by discoandherpes on Dec 27, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I still think that there are still a lot of good wrestlers out there, I just don’t think they’re wrestling each other. I’m only a casual fan at best, but I always love a great grappling heavy pro-wrestling match or a compelling Royal Rumble.
I actually watched WWE Raw yesterday. Brian Danielson and CM Punk are the WWE champions. I thought I was actually watching an Alternate Universe episode of Raw. It was weird.
by discoandherpes on Dec 27, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I’m a casual these days myself… I think the catch phrase Danielson & punk used was not bad for a couple of Indy Shmucks…
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That’s pretty spot on.
I’m not going to lie, as much as I like to criticize the modern WWE they are making an effort to push the more talented guys.
by discoandherpes on Dec 27, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I went from being a smark to just being a fan
It’s awesome when you can just enjoy what they’re doing.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 27, 2011 1:08 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Most definitely. Sometimes I think sports fans obsess over something so much that they lose perspective on why they enjoyed what they were watching in the first place.
by discoandherpes on Dec 27, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was really happy with CM PUnk getting the title, Finally some talented workers both in the ring and on the mic. Cena was tired old annoying and So fucking PG he was kryptonite to all the Attitude era fans.
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yep pretty much kurt had a style in the ring that only he and i think bret hart,owen hart, brock lesnar,etc guys like that who knew how to mix real actual wrestling with their wwe stuff. and chris yeah he was a beast best technical wrestler imo he came from working with guys like malenko who like knew what 100 different holds wtf. they both had a sad end honestly but it was like a lesson to guys like me who actually wanted to do that and follow in there shoes. but that also was around when i seen shogun in pride for the first time soooooo yea that wwe career was bound to fail
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Benoit was a beast
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by jack knight starman on Dec 27, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
how much would it suck to pay for a ticket to be in the audience for a WWE event
only to have a sign in front of your face the whole time?
Not as bad as paying for a UFC ticket and having the BROCKLESNAR sign in front of you for the whole main event!!
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by ANance on Dec 27, 2011 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I've thought about this
And I’d be furious.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 27, 2011 12:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I remember watching that live
almost did a spit take myself
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 27, 2011 12:18 PM EST reply actions
I guess you had to be there?
Granted, the end was funny. But “Comedic Gold” it is not. There are apparently a lot more Pro-Wrestling fans here than I had hoped.
by BKdroid on Dec 27, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Don't hate.
It’s all us older guys had before MMA!!!
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by ANance on Dec 27, 2011 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
there was real wrestling before MMA
Dan Gable, Bruce Baumgartner, Kevin Jackson, and John Smith: BADASS
Dan Severn and Don Frye: NO WORDS NEEDED
I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping
by Andy Anderson on Dec 27, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I see those...
And raise you a Ravishing Rick Rude. Haha
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by ANance on Dec 27, 2011 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wonder if he knows a lot pro wrestlers were college wrestlers
Mr Perfect? College wrestler. The Steiners? College wrestlers.
They just didn’t have the MMA option. So they went to Japan for the strong style.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 27, 2011 12:54 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh I know
I like pro wrestling actually, although it was the other way around for me. I got into WWE because of MMA
I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping
by Andy Anderson on Dec 27, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
...and how many times were they on TV?
Once every four years?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
this is true
NCAA Finals just started on ESPN a few years ago. I am not bashing Pro Wrestling. I just only got into it this past year.
I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping
by Andy Anderson on Dec 27, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Right on Attitude era 4 life. : )
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Wasn't there when they had the thong-a-thon?
Jesus christ…
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by Unabomberman on Dec 27, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
(cough)
There were a ton of shit any martial art fan could watch instead of pro wrestling.
"I don't want to sound cocky, but I do hold myself in high regard."
that involved physical theater on a weekly basis?
Please name em. I watched baseball in summer, football in fall and winter and basketball in spring. I watched pro graps year round. There was nothing on basic cable that involved any combat sport other than boxing, which I was barely interested in as a 7-year old.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 27, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Please show me a show that was on weekly during the 90's . I am waiting. tick tock tick tock.
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Than you'd hoped?
Just because there’s people here who still enjoy pro wrestling/appreciate Pro Wrestling from the past (when it was actually entertaining), that doesn’t mean they’re clueless when it comes to MMA. It is possible to enjoy both, lol.
I will happily admit that I discovered MMA only after years and years of adoring pro wrestling. When I got to about 17/18 and I just couldn’t handle the WWE anymore, I turned to MMA exclusively.
As for these pieces Roth, thoroughly enjoying them. Brock has always entertained me, whether it be in the squared circle or the octagon, keep em coming.
"Honestly, I've got nothing against Josh Koscheck personally........but the guy's just a dickhead"-Paul Daley
I was 8 years old and loved watching Hulk Hogan and Andre The Giant, so sue me. Then I found out Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny weren’t real and that pro wrestling was fake. Owen Hart was still alive when I stopped watching.
That is exactly my situation.
I can look back fondly on moments like watching in person as Hulk Hogan slammed the twin towers (I think..). I loved watching the Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, etc. But the crap has given me a headache within a minute of watching it since I was 11yrs old. It has always seemed to be a weekly/daily/whatever dose of bad acting in a d-level action movie. Saying this clip is comedic gold is sad considering how terribly unentertaining it is to me other than 5-10 seconds worth.
Never got the Hulk Hogan love. He is a pretty terrible wrestler.
by discoandherpes on Dec 27, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
He had personality and that went a long way during the 80s
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I remember reading something....
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I remember reading somewhere when Lesner and Angle were both still with WWE, they had a “friendly” wrestling/grappling match where Angle got the better of Lesnar each and every time.
I remember when I first heard of that, and I kept thinking how good Angle would have been in MMA if he ever decided to do that instead of go to into pro wrestling as he did
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by jack knight starman on Dec 27, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions
Angle ragdolled him...
whether you choose to believe that or not is up to you. fights among wrestlers happen a lot, though. Big ass Batista got his ass handed to him by Booker T, sucka.
I never said I didn't believe it....
I just don’t like quoting something I heard second hand.
Also I should point out, I just stated it would have been cool if Angle choose MMA instead of pro wrestling after his time wrestling at the Olympics.
How far he could have gotten in MMA if he choose that path
In agreement with you, there are a lot of instances of legitimate fights among wrestlers. One such story I remember clearly is small Chris Jericho choking out big bad ass Bill Goldberg after he called Jericho a vanilla midget. I found that story rather satisfying
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by jack knight starman on Dec 27, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
if I remeber right
I think it was Angle who said it so…
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
If you are craving for more, this is the follow-up from the same show (involves push-ups): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V4u5BV_vLk
by Horselover Fat on Dec 27, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions
Its great to see that BE is very biased towards lesnar. All i see is ‘’lesnar this’’ and ‘lesnar that’’ BE is a great website. But i cant (and i wont) take any of the writers seriously.
You seem like a pretty calm guy Roth
A friend of mine used to post on here and he was subsequently banned for asking another writer why he was trolling him…
My friend is a bit of a hot head at times but you seem like a decent guy with a good sense of humor …. thumbs up!
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by jack knight starman on Dec 27, 2011 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I bet you have not.
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It would lead me to believe that @bisping must have pissed off @danawhite something fierce. RT @drjamezkelske: @danhendo just out of curiosity, if the #ufc comes to you and asks you to fight Bisping again how do you respond?" -Dan Henderson
your getting X Pac Heat, bravo
by Thats It For you! on Dec 27, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I had to look that up on Wikipedia.
Good one, lol.
And I really hope Luke Thomas is reading this.
by Rob Young on Dec 27, 2011 2:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Overeem has his The Reem documentary posted almost all the time
He’s also been in the news a lot more because of the NSAC hearing fiasco. I think it’s pretty balanced.
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That was Overeem vs Todd Duffee.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 27, 2011 1:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
All of that invlolved combat sports.
IMO, pro-wreslting does not.
WWE/TNA are to Combat sports as Vinegaroon are to Scorpions.
Sure, they look alike from a distance, but they are completely different animals.
by BKdroid on Dec 27, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
my two goals are to generate traffic and discussion
I’m doing both. Overeem doesn’t move the needle like Lesnar.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 27, 2011 1:25 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I get it.
I recognize two things:
1. I could be conceived as (and may actually) being elitist and condescending
2. I am doing exactly what you want by by arguing my opinion.
I’m resigned to both :)
Vinegaroons
In the Vinegaroon/Scorpion analogy, MMA is the probably the Vinegaroon. WWE has been around longer and prowrestling is probably more accurately understood (which is not to say there aren’t misconceptions, but there are archconservatives that still think of MMA as a no holds barred death match type of deal).
But for casuals that aren’t familiar with Vinegaroons, it is probably easy to say it’s that scorpion looking thing except that its not quite a scorpion because it lacks a stinger at the end of its tail
I sadi combat sports. Not MMA
That’s why I used the Vinegaroon analogy… It lacks a stinger. Pro-Wrestling lacks actual combat, IMO, which is why it’s the Vinegaroon. This is also the reason I never complain about Boxing stories. I may not be a fan of Boxing, but I respect it as a combat sport and therefore relevant in small doses to a MMA website.
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it balances out the rest of MMA journalism
like say, Shitdog.
Goddamn you, Kurt Angle
And while we’re at it, goddamn mixed martial arts for taking so long to become a viable option for collegiate wrestlers after they’ve graduated. Can you imagine a UFC in which guys like Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, and Cael Sanderson among others found their way in at 21-years-old?
Amusingly, pro wrestler Davey Richards brought that up
In an interview he pretty much said “I got into pro wrestling because MMA wasn’t big when I was training.”
In many ways, it's a reverse Sonnen
Chael Sonnen between his Junior and Senior years at Oregon went down to the WCW Power Plant in Atlanta and went through their notorious 3 day tryouts and was one of only 2 people out of the tryout schedule he was a part of to get an invite. After some consideration he opted to finish school and the rest is history.
Love the guy or hate him, imagine current-day 185 had Sonnen done the same as many before him.
Yeah
Just imagine if Chael had taken some steroids….
by Mandmeisterx on Dec 27, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
He'd have even more back acne and be a even bigger dick head just less funny...
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Cael has said before
He doesn’t like getting punched in the face. He really would have unstoppable takedowns though.
I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping
by Andy Anderson on Dec 27, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Pro Wrestling on bloodyelbow?
This is a MMA website only!
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Ban this man!!!
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by Chris Hall on Dec 27, 2011 1:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ya ban the author of this article for bashing himself??? Hmmmm something seems wierd.
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It would lead me to believe that @bisping must have pissed off @danawhite something fierce. RT @drjamezkelske: @danhendo just out of curiosity, if the #ufc comes to you and asks you to fight Bisping again how do you respond?" -Dan Henderson
yes it's very weird that you did not sense that he was being sarcastic...
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I sensed that it right next to my spider sense and the trouble in the force.
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It would lead me to believe that @bisping must have pissed off @danawhite something fierce. RT @drjamezkelske: @danhendo just out of curiosity, if the #ufc comes to you and asks you to fight Bisping again how do you respond?" -Dan Henderson
Yep there's absolutely no crossovers between mma and wrestling, well maybe just a few...
Dan Severn, Steve Blackman, Ken Shamrock, Bobby Lashely, Brock Lesner, Tim Sylvia, Josh Barnett, Antonio Inoki, Kazushi Sakuraba, Minowaman (newest tigermask incarnation), Satoru Sayama ( founded shooto also tigermask), Kazuyuki Fujita, Nobuhiko Takada, Dave Batista ( opened a gracie affliated mma gym)…. this can go on for a while…
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yea its pretty obvious that there’s a connection its just alot of ppl i guess really really dont like pro wrestling. its not all that bad to me, i mean it does also have softcore wwe divas as well so
like water
I like pro-wrestling and still watch it
But this seems to be a little too much imo. I mean, what is the point that is being made?
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
Of course there's a connection
It’s just that the MMA fans who like it for the sport aspect see pro wrestling as nothing more than shitty acting, shitty writing and no athletic competition.
If you like that for whatever nostalgic reasons, fine. I dislike it not because it’s fake, but because it’s disgustingly obviously fake. I love fake combat, I watch it all the time in movies. But pro wrestling writing/acting is, to me, so in-your-face bad that I can’t suspend my disbelief.
by Shaun32887 on Dec 27, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WWE
That was pretty funny. As someone who hasn’t watched any pro wrestling, I am curious about some stuff.
How dangerous is it? The stunts in the last video looked mildly painful, but is that just becasue their execution is that good or because they are just tough mofos?
Also, how “scripted” is it? Like do they just predetermine the winner, or do they rehearse all the stunts in advance?
Do guys ever ignore what the supposed outcome was supposed to be if they don’t want to lose/get beat up on television?
well
those politics usually happen back stage. As for the script, Vince has been known to change things around minutes before the live show, so the wrestlers are pretty good at winging it at last minuet.
The moves are geared to look painful, as long as the recipient sells the move good. But even if “they know how to land” your still really pushing your body 300 days a year taking hard bumps on a regular basis.
by Thats It For you! on Dec 27, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
As for your question about guys not following the script
There’s one famous example I can think of at Wrestlemania 8, where Sid Justice was supposed to lose to a Hulk Hogan leg drop, but kicked out at the last second. They freaked out backstage and sent someone out to fake-attack Hogan so he would still win by disqualification. I’m sure there have been other times this has happened, though.
by Trysdor on Dec 27, 2011 4:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
With all these Brock WWE posts it almost Seems Like
We are holding a public vigil for the dearly departed. I just feel bad if brock is über kneed back into pro-wrestling.
I am vorn the unspeakable the skulls of those who defy me bleach in the suns of hundreds of worlds...... and you are
I'm leaning towards him getting guillotined instead.
After shooting in for a takedown.
by Rob Young on Dec 27, 2011 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Brock’s gonna look real good for a minute or two, then Reem is gonna punch him really fucking hard and it’s all down hill from there (more of a product of Reem’s power than Brocks chin, I think Brock has a damn goood chin based on him staying conscious while Carwin proceeded to beat the shit out of him for about 5 minutes)
"Comedy Gold" is a bit hyperbolic
i think it’s funny for pro wrestling. That is to say, it’s funny in that 12-17 year old fanboy way. It’s not exactly 30 Rock-level writing. In fact, it is not as funny as a good Piper’s Pit.
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by Uncle Red on Dec 27, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have not done that yet...
I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping
by Andy Anderson on Dec 27, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Comedic gold is using a little person dressed like a gorilla as a projectile.
by Balrog on Dec 27, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That's kind of a staple of Lucha Libre.
Weird but true…
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by Unabomberman on Dec 27, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Then we wonder why wrestlers take pain meds & what not
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by RECE ROCK on Dec 27, 2011 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
pro wrestling is a hard job
you have to take hits. let me repeat that you have to take hits. that is why most of them are all beat up by time they hit their 40’s and 50’s. the rock is the only wrestler i could think of that has made it outside of the ring to the point. he only comes back leading up to a big ppv and bruce gives him a milli and say rock go play around on a couple shows buddy. ecw and japan showed me what wrestling was without the glitz and glamour. wwe just got to sloppy for my taste. i was watching when they stil had the f and it was still good.
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