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Thank You Jonathan Snowden

Just wanted to do a quick post to thank Mr. Snowden for all his many contributions to Bloody Elbow and MMA Nation over the past however many years it's been.

At his best Snowden is one of the most knowledgeable and most passionate writers covering MMA. He's also one of the fastest and smoothest writers I've ever worked with. The dude can spit out a story fast and it'll be topical, accurate and very well written.

I can definitely say I learned more from working with Jon than I have with any other writer. Some of the lessons were hard ones but they were all needed.

Let's take a moment to remember Snowden's best work and wish him the best in all his future endeavors. I look forward to following his work. He's got a couple books coming out next year that I look forward to reading very much and I'm sure he'll continue to be uniquely compelling as long as he chooses to write about MMA.

Warning: This isn't the place to bash Snowden. The ban hammer is thirsty. Tread lightly or go away.

The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.

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Seriously guys...

this isn’t the time or place to take shots at Jon and stepping over the line WILL result in a ban.

Jon did great work here and helped the site grow a lot so this is a thank you post, not a “what do you REALLY think about him?” post

Managing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 22, 2011 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously though, Snowden was a hell of a writer and no one created a discussion like him. The comments to his stories were some of the most fun things ever. I am looking forward to his new book and I am a fan. Best of luck, Mr. Snowden!

by mountaineers101 on Dec 22, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You hit on it there.

He did “create discusssion,” even if that’s a euphamism for stir the pot, which is a euphamism for piss people off. I enjoyed his contributions and am sad to see him go. He’s the kind of guy you just hate until he’s inside of you…

"Hi. I don't know you." - me

"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva

by POW on Dec 22, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

*pause*

"You couldn't tell the difference between the porn I watch and a Mike Tyson highlight reel" - Luke Thomas

by IRodC on Dec 22, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I think we can all safely say that there is a little bit of Snowden inside of all us.

by mountaineers101 on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just trying to create discussion here, fellas.

"Hi. I don't know you." - me

"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva

by POW on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You got my attention!

Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
BEEF MOE!

by RolloTomasi on Dec 26, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Word up, he could stir shit up like no other, without it seeming blatantly obvious that was his goal.

For those that weren’t as familiar as we are with his devilish style.

Much like Matt Roth tries to do but Snowden’s methods differ from those of Roth only as far as the guardsman’s cut and thrust differ from the manner in which a savage wields his club.

Keep up the good work Jonny Boy.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
"Train by day... Joe Rogan Podcast By Night... All Day!"

by Shotokanman on Dec 22, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Snowden quit for the record

and we were sorry to see him go.

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by Nate Wilcox on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Well, darn. That really is sad to hear. Still loved his work and he always defended his opinions and pieces passionately, which I can certainly appreciate. Looking forward to his book on pro wrestling shooters and other work.

by mountaineers101 on Dec 22, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this pic before

or after RUSHFIT?

When you saw only one set of footprints, it was Herb Dean who carried you -- Mike Fagan

by hardlyworking on Dec 22, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I still hope he writes the book about the history of the wrestling territories.

"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz

My twitter: @TB_Money

by Tim Burke on Dec 22, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

No, thank you Chuck Norris

Years ago someone told Polynesian DNA that everyone was surrounded by sea monsters and it believed them. It made humans that were immune to head injuries, fast enough to run on the highway, and big enough to use the carpool lane. Putting two of them in the same ring is like telling your local tectonic plates to fuck themselves.

"I said ‘let me tell you, you’re one punch away from being worth zero’ and I was wrong, he was one triangle choke away from being worth zero." - Dana on Fedor

"Guillard told the commission he used cocaine on March 30 and expected it to be out of his system by the time he stepped into the Octagon"

by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Dec 22, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

nope

just chuck testa

I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping

by Andy Anderson on Dec 23, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. Excellent, excellent book.

by mountaineers101 on Dec 22, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The Nick DIaz of MMA Journalism.

Exciting, confrontational, and inflammatory. Love him or hate him, he sure could spark a debate. Good luck.

"All noble things are as difficult as they are rare."
- Baruch Spinoza

The most classless fan in college football since 1984.

by Avap on Dec 22, 2011 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

I figured he would.

It’s an apt comparison I think. I don’t know of any other writer on this site who was as polarizing as Snowden.

"All noble things are as difficult as they are rare."
- Baruch Spinoza

The most classless fan in college football since 1984.

by Avap on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I got Total MMA for review while working at Maxim.

Snowden was instrumental in helping me find my voice (I’m still finding it) and a big part of why I’m with the SBNation family. Along with Nate, Luke, Brent, and Fagan he supported me this year.

He and I sometimes didn’t see eye to eye but I’d like to think he was just doing it to make me better. Stoked on his new book and wish him well.

by Matthew Roth on Dec 22, 2011 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

You worked for Maxim Magazine?

Seems like that would be a great fit for you. What happened?

The Machiavellian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 22, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Holy crap.

IF you wake up in a train yard, how the hell does one get home?

The Machiavellian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 22, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry to hear that

But I am honestly loling right now. That is some funny shit. I mean, totally NOT funny, which is what makes it so funny… I hope you can understand.

When you saw only one set of footprints, it was Herb Dean who carried you -- Mike Fagan

by hardlyworking on Dec 22, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say, that’s the best thing I’ve read since I woke up. And seriously, how DID you get home? Did you call someone to pick you up at a random train yard

by crazybones on Dec 22, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

and that’s why we celebrate Mother’s Day…among other things of course. I once had to call my mom to pick me up in Santa Cruz (3 hours away) after going to see Camper Van Beethoven & the car broke down. Moms rule

Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown

by tigerlee on Dec 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My parents always told me "we don't care where you are, if you need a ride just call"

I’m not sure that picking me up at 3am was what they were talking about. But they’re the best because they do that for me when I’m home.

by Matthew Roth on Dec 22, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't you have a driver?

Or couldn’t you call Tony Bourdain or some shit?

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

So you've been lying to me this whole time??

I felt so comfortable with you.

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean I'm baller status

but like having Tony Bourdain pick you up? That’s a whole nother level of baller. We’re talking Luke Thomas – Denim Blinds kinda baller status.

by Matthew Roth on Dec 22, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My fantasy basketball team is called Baller Status

And I met Tony Bourdain when he ate at the restaurant below my business. Where do I land? Matt Brown level?

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he as dickish as he comes off on tv

"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."

by dedstrk316 on Dec 22, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He's awesome

On camera and off.

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He's awesome for sure

but he’s dickish too but that’s what makes him awesome. I used to watch No Reservations every day after work. Now it’s Layover. Super cool show.

"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."

by dedstrk316 on Dec 22, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I still hate him.

"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Dec 23, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

You hate a lot of things

The real asshole is Andrew Zimmern.

Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters

by SSreporters on Dec 23, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe it. Never have trusted public transit of any kind.

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Better than a dumpster

I had that bad habit for a while in my youth.

"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."

by dedstrk316 on Dec 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

how?

I mean I grew up in Flint Michigan and my youth was not nearly this awesome…

I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping

by Andy Anderson on Dec 23, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Flint is a bad bad place

I would just get drunk and high out of my mind and somehow I’d end up there. Walk home in the morning and take a shower and do it again.

"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."

by dedstrk316 on Dec 25, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Surprisingly it was not until I was 7 and had moved to Fenton, and then went to a Tigers game with my dad in Detroit that I found out what crack heads are. I also learned what a Colt .38 is that day too.

I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping

by Andy Anderson on Dec 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Please do

I was here for this one!!

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Use it after devastating knockouts

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Dec 22, 2011 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That was the thought.

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Brock’s gonna wake up in a train yard after he fights Overeem.

by crazybones on Dec 22, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You, my good man, are wrong.

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

TOO SOON JON JONES IS AN ASSHOLE HENDO IS GONNA KO HIM FOR SURE

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuckin' totally.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
"Train by day... Joe Rogan Podcast By Night... All Day!"

by Shotokanman on Dec 22, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Really though, what is Hendo gonna do when he is under that monster?

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
"Train by day... Joe Rogan Podcast By Night... All Day!"

by Shotokanman on Dec 22, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as I hate to say it because I love Hendo

He is going to eat ellbow after elbow.

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Dec 22, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I have given up picking against Jones.

He is the Albatross of Death, and his shadow falls upon us all.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
"Train by day... Joe Rogan Podcast By Night... All Day!"

by Shotokanman on Dec 22, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Clinch

Hashad

"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang

by Bolshevik on Dec 22, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely fucking nothing except tap.

I hope he taps anyways, otherwise we’re going to have to weather another JONJONESISACHILDKILLINGMONSTER storm.

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

"OH MY GOD

Look at what he did to that OLD MAN!"

Man, if Hendo’s skin actually cuts, what s going to happen?

There will be a vag of Beastman Eastman proportions!

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
"Train by day... Joe Rogan Podcast By Night... All Day!"

by Shotokanman on Dec 22, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Even though I love him

Putting a collage of Wandy after hes been KO’d with this line would be amazing.

by DCJon. on Dec 22, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Machida too

This moment stirred me. But it had to be done.

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Better woken by the ref than by someone else...

The Internets: Where there are no girls and men become children.

by Unabomberman on Dec 22, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I just deleted a hilarious retort

Due to recent sensitivities. But I’m having a good laugh to myself.

Mike Massenzio's left MCL, ACL and PCL
11/01/1982-01/14/2012

by Charles Awad on Dec 22, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I loled!

I rarely do but damn that solidified the meme.

Bloodyelbow is my facebook

by soilworker on Dec 22, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s not worse. even more hilarious but not worse.

Your beliefs become your reality.

by Hardy's in your face on Dec 23, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Why'd those bums roll you? You tell 'em ketchup was garbage?

They hate that…

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
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by Snatchl on Dec 22, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, we were cool 'cause I gave them lots of Del Scorcho and Arby's Sauce.

They wigged when I told them Snowden was going to Josh Gross’ boss

by Skoobs on Dec 22, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

LOVE IT.

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats actually in Queens. The train you see in the background is the 7 train pulling into Queensboro Plaza.

Dont confuse NY for Jersey please. That is all.

I can't figure out how to add the twiiter follow button so here's a link -____-

by Papercut Elbow on Dec 29, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You need to quit drinking.

Actually, no, nevermind…

Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
BEEF MOE!

by RolloTomasi on Dec 26, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Snowden.

I wish him well in whatever he does. I always enjoyed what he wrote, whether I agreed with it or not, and reading the comments sections on his stories was a guilty pleasure. I also enjoyed betting on the over/under for the number of comments on a Snowden story. I don’t know why anyone ever took the under.

Everybody has a heart. Except some people. - Bette Davis

I'm at Gal's Guide to MMA!

by KatGirl on Dec 22, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah. Over’s the way to go on that bet, without exception.

by Subbevil on Dec 22, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't stand his stuff at first

Then I came to understand him a bit and his point of view and he became my favorite writer. Have both of his books and will buy any book he ever writes about combat sports.

"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."

by dedstrk316 on Dec 22, 2011 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

One of my favourite MMA writers

Sad to see him go. Any idea what he’s going to do next? Keep writing MMA/wrestling books?

by wonderfulspam on Dec 22, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

GREEN

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If anything, I suspect Subo is his Sith apprentice.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Dec 22, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

this is true

I actually was mistaken into thinking that Subo had an official position here up until 3 months ago…

I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping

by Andy Anderson on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I really liked Snowden’s articles. Even if I didn’t agree with some of his opinion pieces I was always intrigued to see how Jon could spin his angle. Jon didn’t always pick the popular opinion, but he always backed it up. Good luck Jon. I hope this will allow you to post in the comment section at BE a little more.

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!

by DayGeaux on Dec 22, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

At first I thought he was just trolling the readers with his at time contratian views

And than I realized he was probably one of the smartest writers on BE/MMA Nation and could really make me think about things in a different point of view.

I’ll certainly miss him.

Twitter @MaZZM
http://www.mazzznet.com/

by MaZZacare on Dec 22, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't always agree with Snowden, but where is the fun if everyone agreed all the time?

Take it easy Snowden. Thanks for the contributions.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Damn!

Snowden is my favorite MMA writer, hands down. I know a lot of people dislike him, but I usually found myself agreeing with his opinions on MMA, even his most “controversial” articles. And that’s important, I don’t have any patience to read opinion pieces and that kind of thing by writers whose opinions I despise, no matter how well written or well respected they may be.

Not only does his take on things suit me well, he’s also in general a really great writer, journalist, and author. “Total MMA” is a must buy, great summary of the history of MMA. I haven’t picked up the encyclopedia yet because I’m not as interested in that format, but I’m definitely looking forward to the next one.

Anyway, thanks for your work around here J-Snow, hope you don’t give up on MMA journalism completely.

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

whats wrong with the format?

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 22, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, what I meant is, I’m not really sold of the general idea of an “MMA Encyclopedia”, especially in this internet age. Personally I would prefer a more traditional chunk of book, read a story from beginning to end, if you get what I’m saying.

That’s just my personal opinion though, by all accounts from those who have bought it it’s supposed to be a really good product.

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

true, and I agree with you there.

its much easier to just google something then look it up in a book, in my opinion

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks man

I disagreed with so many things you’ve written but no doubt you’re a very good writer.

The banhammer also thanks you, as without your articles the comments section wouldn’t be filled with so many whacks of the ban button.

Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters

by SSreporters on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And your book is due out in the summer, correct? And do you plan on doing a wrestling territories book?

by mountaineers101 on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

For whatever reason, the decision has been made that I will not just be leaving SBNation but also the community, even as a commenter.

Why do you have to leave the community as a commentator as well? Or should I refrain from probing any further…

"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri

by andrew861 on Dec 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The Worldwide Leader has some funky policies

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."

by menckenstein on Dec 22, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that really where Snowden’s going? If so that’s awesome and congrats.

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!

by DayGeaux on Dec 22, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my guess.

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."

by menckenstein on Dec 22, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly it’s probably a response to the Fagan situation. The whole thing was a little messy but his status as a commenter made it much more so. I don’t know that Jon would make it a problem for anyone, but i wouldn’t be surprised if this was SBNation policy from here on out.

by castleeb on Dec 22, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

When you leave a company, you turn in your keys, right?

And it’s not like you drop by the office every few weeks to say “Hi” after you leave, even under good terms like Snowden’s.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Dec 22, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I say.

Old bloggers should leave the scene of the crime, and never return. Yep.

by Cannon Jacques on Dec 23, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck Jon. Will keep an eye out for you. Can’t wait for that ‘Shooters’ book, no doubt in my mind it will be as engrossing as your previous two.

by sheikybaby on Dec 22, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Best of luck Jon

With your future endeavours, which will be dripping I am sure with a delicious sense of the provocative.
BTW, its really a bit sad and unfair that you have to leave BE/Nation totally, whats that about? It always had a certain cache to see your name in the comments section here on BE, you will be missed.
This re-engineering of the site’s writing / attitudinal profile (Fagan out, Snowden out of the community) is really a bit pathetic, is it about ‘mainstreamising’ SBNation sites (post MMA fighting)…

Either way, always leave on a high, so thanks for your contributions and well done on your prolific quality output.
Take care.

R.

'if you don't have humility as a fighter, fighting will bring humility to you...'

by rohedron on Dec 22, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re gonna be missed, man.

My name isn't Todd.

by Tedd Welch on Dec 22, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

For whatever reason, the decision has been made that I will not just be leaving SBNation but also the community, even as a commenter.

This is really sad news. We’ll miss you J-Snow.

by Sqwibbs on Dec 22, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I’ve enjoyed reading your stuff since the RSPW/M days. Speaking of that, I know you can’t respond here, but does anyone else know what ever happened to Mike Naimark?

by yarky1 on Dec 26, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

MMA Writer by day

Dictator-slaying Super Hero by night.

I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Sean in Vancouver on Dec 22, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

All day

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
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K1 Level Predictions Team 2011 BE Cilvil War Champions!
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by Snatchl on Dec 23, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, that's a bummer.

Was always a huge fan of your writing, Jon. Good luck in whatever you pursue from here on out, but you probably won’t need it. You’re a talented dude.

An annoying Fitch fan. Also, captain of the inaugural BE Civil War champions, the K-1 Level Predictions Team.
BE Civil War Season 2 Sign-ups!

by Zachary Kater on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Getting fucking tired of people leaving!

Good luck Snowden, come back anytime!

The wise man has something to say; the foolish man has to say something.

by PistonHyundai on Dec 22, 2011 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

I was one of the few people who agreed with you on the Brock Lesnar/Shane Carwin post-fight article. And it was nice to see that we were both validated in the end. Good luck in the future.

"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri

by andrew861 on Dec 22, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Wait what happened to him?

I didn’t agree with many of his articles, but they were usually interesting reads.

by HaterSlayer on Dec 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Sad to see him go

Only had a few interactions with Snowden on Nation, but he was always extremely friendly towards me. I learned more from him then he probably realizes.

Good luck at your next stop man. I wish you the best.

by Shaun Al-Shatti on Dec 22, 2011 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

The rest of us will endevor to cover the last one for him, don’t you worry.

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by Tim Burke on Dec 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’d probably help if I spelled endeavor right.

"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz

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by Tim Burke on Dec 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s funny, I actually did put the u in but took it out. I have to correct myself all the time to write for you ’murcans.

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by Tim Burke on Dec 22, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good story....

“Nobody at SB Nation gave a shit about me except Jonathan Snowden.”

Honestly, I didn’t see it going that way, but, honestly I hadn’t given it any thought.

by Cannon Jacques on Dec 23, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Farewell

all i can say is really to say what others say but i will not include agreement or disagreement here. I really enjoyed your posts and wishing you all the best luck in the future.
Its always sad to see great contributors leave..

by szanpan on Dec 22, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Gracias, señor Snowden.

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by Unabomberman on Dec 22, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck this everyone leaving shit! I swear, if Brent leaves, we’re having a cutting party.

Seriously, I’m definitely gonna miss Jon. Definitely didn’t always agree, but I respected his opinion on MMA above almost all others. He knows his shit, and I’ll follow his writing wherever it is. Good luck Jon and thanks for the many hours of work you put into making BE the top MMA community out there.

KEMvP

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by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 3:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

We'll start a protest. #OccupyFanposts

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by Zachary Kater on Dec 22, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’m in.

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 22, 2011 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thats funny

Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt

by warren305 on Dec 22, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to see Mr. Snowden gone.

I’d say good luck, but for a guy with such writing ability, I doubt he’ll need it. One of the guys who got it.

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by Rundownloser on Dec 22, 2011 4:13 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not a fan of some of his opinions

Okay, I’m not a fan of a lot of them.

But the dude writes well, can’t argue against that.

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by Chris Groves on Dec 22, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

this is a comment I can endorse.

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 22, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck to you Snowden

I am finishing up Total MMA and look forward to any of your writing in the future, and I will miss your thousand comment articles.

by 19Miles on Dec 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't know Snowden left

so I thought that he hacked Kid Nate’s account until I read the last paragraph.

His articles always had the funniest comment sections.

by av1o3 on Dec 22, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Well this sucks.

by Shnak on Dec 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

I was trying to pick the best Arrested Development gif for Snowden...


It was a tough choice.

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by KatGirl on Dec 22, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Thats hilarious

Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt

by warren305 on Dec 22, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That scene is so friggin hilarious though

Way out of character for Tobias to be so pissed off and determined

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to find it on youtube

Unfortunately it has some music in the background “for copyright reasons” (what the hell?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgZtIN8qfPk

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I love it.

Tobias is awesome.

Everybody has a heart. Except some people. - Bette Davis

I'm at Gal's Guide to MMA!

by KatGirl on Dec 22, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, has to be one of the best TV characters ever, definitely my favorite of the show (with Gob as close second). Just finished rewatching AD for like the fifth time the other day, so I’m especially vulnerable to quotes and gifs right now.

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone borrowed the first disc of my Season 1 set a few years ago and never returned it. I need to replace it. I feel an AD marathon is in order :)

Everybody has a heart. Except some people. - Bette Davis

I'm at Gal's Guide to MMA!

by KatGirl on Dec 22, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Do it! Even better if you haven’t seen it for a while, always new things to spot or stuff you’ll have forgotten.

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Snowden is an Arrested Development fan.

So I felt it was appropriate. I always liked that about him :)

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by KatGirl on Dec 22, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

best post of this thread

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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 22, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably my favorite writer here, MMA Encyclopedia is great as well. Good luck!

by AHutch on Dec 22, 2011 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

Nobody has ever been as fun to disagree with as Snowden

Now that he’s gone, I miss Fagan even more.

Can someone remind me where Fagan went?

by Ari LeVaux on Dec 22, 2011 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

Nowhere yet. Find him on twitter.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 22, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know why?

I don’t remember him getting such a fond farewell

by Ari LeVaux on Dec 22, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't fond.

Don’t know much more beyond that. I am but a lowly peon.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

holy crap

I lol’d for like a minute

I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Sean in Vancouver on Dec 22, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

funny fuse blown

"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang

by Bolshevik on Dec 22, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

oh wow, that made me laugh way harder than it should have

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Dec 23, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a proud long time lurker and Snowden was one of the reasons I never gave up on BE. I wish I’ve could interacted with him in some threads but I learned english on my own and is kind of hard for me to express my ideas as quick as some fellows posters. Thank you for everything Jon!

by king of the dogs on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure if it played a factor in Jonathan’s decision or not, but being moved from BE to MMA Nation probably didn’t help. There’s just no community over at MMA Nation, most articles have 0 comments. I know Jonathan enjoyed the back and forth between him and the hundreds of commenters every one of his posts brought out. There was none of that over at MMA Nation. It’s also one of the reasons I don’t like going to that site, that and the horrible, unorganized layout. BE FOREVER!

by Shnak on Dec 22, 2011 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Does anyone know if he’ll be taking another position as an MMA writer?

Snowden’s exceptional pieces on MMA history always defined him in my mind, so I never really saw him as “the controversial guy.” I also like articles I disagree with. His writing will be sorely missed.

"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang

by Bolshevik on Dec 22, 2011 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

From the man himself in a post above: “And, of course, I hope to see you at my next stop, mid January 2012. Look forward to picking the conversation right back up.”

I would assume that means he’ll start contributing somewhere else, just that it isn’t public info yet.

by Horselover Fat on Dec 22, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Best of luck to you Snowden

Watching this place explode in the wake of the infamous Bro Hugs article is still one of my favorite BE moments. Shortly after joining BE, I got both of your books and each of them were absolutely incredible. I have no doubt you’ll succeed wherever you go.

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by Chris Hall on Dec 22, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Does Snowden's departure add to mounting eveidence BE never deserved P4P crown?

If any other enterprise lost it’s talent at the rate of BE wouldn’t that call into question it’s ability to meet it’s growth expectations? You can hear the walls of BE rumbling as their inevitable crumble commences.
I for one will follow Snowden as he emerges like a pheonix from the smoldering heap.
Vive’ Snowden!

Your beliefs become your reality.

by Hardy's in your face on Dec 22, 2011 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

I would still wear it

also wtf?? “For whatever reason, the decision has been made that I will not just be leaving SBNation but also the community, even as a commenter”

who/what/when/where/why made this decision, and on what merits?

and does this mean Snowden will lerk silently in the shadows? Maybe have a sockpuppet by the name of BEARDLESNAR?

¬_¬

by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Dec 23, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That is now a meme collectors item.

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by Snatchl on Dec 23, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

can you make other BE shirts?

LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!

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GSP is exposed

I am no Michael Bisping

Northern English is more Intellegent

so on and so forth

I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping

by Andy Anderson on Dec 23, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So wait...did Snowden resign or is he being forced out?

Why’s he not even allowed to comment? Wasn’t he just “promoted” to mma.sbnation.com? Why is SB nation getting rid of their more popular writers (Fagan and now Snowden). It was said enough when Snowden left BE the 1st time…
Is this Ariel Helwani’s fault? F’ U Ariel

Also which site gets more views/readership: BE or mma.sbnation.com? Why not let writers contribute to both?

ONE FC NEVER DIE

by Robust23 on Dec 23, 2011 1:07 AM EST reply actions  

thanks for that great input.thanks for that great input.

Read what? It’s definitely not spelled out in the article homie

ONE FC NEVER DIE

by Robust23 on Dec 23, 2011 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Snowden quit for the record
and we were sorry to see him go. -Kid Nate

by Anton Tabuena on Dec 23, 2011 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Snowden quit. The first two words…

by Shnak on Dec 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone’s sarcasm meter is perpetually broken.

"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz

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by Tim Burke on Dec 23, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that flew a mile over my head. Oh well.

by Shnak on Dec 24, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

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by Richard Wade on Dec 25, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Dat troo

KEMvP

"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."

by T.C. Engel on Dec 24, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that wasn’t in the article. I’m sorry if you expect me to comb thru near 200 comments to find that. Thanks for clarifying

ONE FC NEVER DIE

by Robust23 on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t agree with a lot of Snowden’s articles, in fact I rarely seemed to agree with anything he said, yet it seemed like I still always read what he had to say and often commented on them. Also The MMA Encyclopedia was my favourite MMA book I read this year.

Good luck in the future, Jonathan.

by Brad Ackerson on Dec 23, 2011 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

Holy Shit...look at the refs face....

Don't doubt it kids, I'm a petty little man - Kid Nate

by purplehazelett on Dec 23, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

more like ‘look at what the refisn’t looking at’

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Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown

by tigerlee on Dec 23, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, he really had no clue what was happening.

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by Kefka on Dec 24, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz

My twitter: @TB_Money

by Tim Burke on Dec 23, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, Jon, I only just finished work. Good luck

with your future endeavours. I thoroughly enjoyed your work. All of it. You will be missed.

Don't doubt it kids, I'm a petty little man - Kid Nate

by purplehazelett on Dec 23, 2011 2:51 AM EST reply actions  

Good luck in what you do in the future Jon, I didn’t always agree with you, but you were classy. Take care, merry christmas.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Dec 23, 2011 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

Snowden...

is an odd sort of writer, in that he completely infuriates you not because he’s an idiot, but because he obviously is highly intelligent yet still disagrees with you in what appear to be highly questionable ways. They say that writing that manages to provoke a response from its readers is the best possible writing, and it seems I like many others here agree. You managed to make some fairly dry subjects very readable, and take some otherwise worn out topics and take the devils advocate side convincingly even if you didn’t believe it yourself. Bravo, and best wishes.

P.S.: For those flipping out, he likely accepted a higher paying/more prestigious position elsewhere, and either their corporate policy or the higher ups of SB Nation have some weird idea of non-compete.

by Jacob Hayes on Dec 23, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

did you just copy out the dictionary definition of ‘troll’?

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by The Omaplatapus on Dec 23, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Always enjoyed your work Snowden, thanks

by Jesse36 on Dec 23, 2011 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

godamn

Snowden made me a diaz fan, his writing is the best even when i don’t agree with his points.

I’ll definitely hope he releases some published stuff I can purchase soon.

Thanks for the great insight!

I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.

by elmojo on Dec 23, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Mr. Snowden will be missed

Does this mean we have to bring back ‘blame Kid Nate’?

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Dec 23, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

No.

As per tradition; we blame Kid Nate.

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by Chris Hall on Dec 23, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ok

This is all Kid Nate’s fault

I enjoy MMA, but I am no Michael Bisping

by Andy Anderson on Dec 24, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Okay, enough of these mushy good-byes,

it’s time for the Airing of Grievances.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott

by Sugel Mendoza on Dec 25, 2011 2:16 AM EST reply actions  

Aww shit,

I just realized that this could be taken as anything negative towards Snowden, it’s just a joke.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott

by Sugel Mendoza on Dec 25, 2011 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

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