Top-100/Weekend in Combat Sports Update
Ho ho ho, bitches! Since there won't be any YWICS this weekend (more on that in a minute), I figured I'd keep anybody who cares abreast on what to look for in the coming weeks/months.
Firstly, there won't be any YWICS this weekend, because of course it's Christmas weekend, but mostly because there's dick on TV this weekend. For fellow denizens of a broken home, you all know as well as I do, Television, sports, and televised sports can be an oasis from the dysfunction that is a family holiday. However, the TV Gods gave me goddamned nothing to work with this weekend. So we're on our own, folks. Bear down. YWICS should return the following week, however.
Secondly, a few of you have asked on TEH TWITTERZ about Top-100. Not only is it not dead, I've thrown myself into it headfirst the past couple weeks. I've graded every broadcasted/streamed/available MMA event through mid-April in the past week. I figure the grading part should be done before the new year, and the writing portion should be done by Mid-January. So come less than a month from now, you should have a hot copy of The Top-100 Best MMA Fights of 2011 on your computer screen. The fights themselves won't have as detailed of a write-up as when I first foretold, but I hope the thoroughness of me grading every single fight that was this year makes up for it.
In case you're wondering what the criteria was, and thanks to a few of you, I developed a system. Not in the Harold Howard-way of developing a system, but this is what I've been using to grade fights (if you give a shit, if not, I don't blame you, skip ahead).
I'm breaking down every fight round by round. In each round the fight gets a scale of 0-5 on:
Striking: Punches, kicks, knees, elbows. Effectiveness of strikes, frequency, and from different positions. They don't necessarily need to be varied, but it helps. (Example of a 5: Diaz vs. Cyborg Round 1)
Grappling: Effectiveness of grappling. Not just in takedowns, but in escapes, transitions, sprawl, defense, and grappling in the clinch. (Example of a 5: Lentz vs. Oliveira, Volkmann vs. Castillo, Healy vs. Beerbohm in different rounds)
Activity: WORK, GENTLEMAN, WORK! Chip Snider's favorite category. How busy are the fighters. I don't mean stand-and-bang, I mean are they working to improve position or generate strikes on the ground or in the clinch, are they counter-striking and not just running. Is pressure constantly being applied, or are fighters gassing? (Example of a 5: McDonald-Figueroa Rd1, Sanchez-Kampmann Rd3, Leben-Munoz)
Excitement: The reason we watch, at its core. Was it an exciting round? Did it leave us on our feet wanting more? Were we happy to be MMA fans after that round? Was the crowd in a frenzy? (Example of a 5: Diaz vs. Daley Rd1, Shogun vs. Henderson...any round, Edgar vs. Maynard UFC 125 Rd1)
So, I tally those up after every round. Average the rounds out at the end of the fight, add a bonus for however many rounds were fought (you have to give credit to a fight that can maintain excellence over many rounds over one or two), then add my last ingredient.
Fighting Spirit: Graded from 0-5, this is lifted from Japanese sporting culture. It is the heart of what sport has always meant in the Far East. Not wins and losses, not flashy finishes, but did you give it your all. It's the highest honor you can get in Japan. Did you leave your heart and soul in the ring and respected your opponent, yourself, and your fans. The fives in fighting spirit are the ones that really stick out.
After that, each fight gets a score. Any fight with a score under 15 isn't qualifying. I can eyeball a fight and see if it's going to qualify after watching it, so I'm not "Beautiful Mind"ing every fight's score. I haven't gone insane yet.
So anyway, enough rambling! As always, if you want to give me a break from my self-destructive obsessive madness of this grave-digging project, hit me up @BVandDietPepsi. Thanks for reading and hope you guys like what you see. Merry Christmas!
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And on a more serious note
When you first mentioned the top 100, I was really intrigued. I even offered some suggestions for the format and the whole idea seemed fantastic.
After seeing the format you’ve decided on, I’m fucking blown away. This sounds too epic to be true and it’s way, way better than anything I could’ve come up with.
I’m also confident it’ll be an excellent tool in my ongoing fight to convince my friends to watch MMA.
One question – how will the results be presented? Will there be a numbers-only edition that one could import into a spreadsheet/database? It would be nice to be able to, say, list all fights that scored at least one 5 in fighting spirit.
by wonderfulspam on Dec 22, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I could do that, absolutely.
Unfortunately, I’ve already graded too many fights and tallied up the scores to break down every round. Plus, that’s a lot of goddamned numbers to digest.
Appreciate your encouragement, spammer! Gives me motivation I desperately need.
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 22, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve just tallied 714 scores from MMA Playground in order to calculate rankings ahead of the BE Civil War draft, so no amount of numbers could possibly scare me off. Shame about the round by round scores being lost but as long as the overall scores are made available in a spreadsheet-friendly format, I’m a happy camper.
I’ve been working a little bit on a database designed to list all UFC fights which would allow me to eg. find out the finishing % by division and/or by year, and I was thinking about merging it with your top 100 list. That way I could rank divisions and events by excitement … man, the possibilities are endless.
by wonderfulspam on Dec 22, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
So, I tally those up after every round. Average the rounds out at the end of the fight, add a bonus for however many rounds were fought (you have to give credit to a fight that can maintain excellence over many rounds over one or two)
Why instead of taking the average and then adding something for each round fought, why not just take the raw scores?
IE
17 points per round over a 2 round fight = 17 point average
17 points per round over a 3 round fight = 17 point average
but if you don’t take the average, you won’t have to add an arbitrary value for “however many rounds were fought”, because that will be reflected in the score:
17 points per round over a 2 round fight = 34 points
17 points per round over a 3 round fight = 51 points
Just throwing it out there…
When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON
-Joell Ortiz
by The Lethal Haze on Dec 21, 2011 8:35 PM EST reply actions
Because that gives WAAAYYY too much credit to rounds fought. Then you’re saying a transcendent one-round fight (Diaz-Daley), which gets, say, a 20, is worse than a horribly-boring three-round fight that gets a 7 each round.
See what I mean?
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 21, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely
You raise a good point. This is quite a project you have undertaken. Much props for your effort and whatever your final scoring formula works out to.
When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON
-Joell Ortiz
by The Lethal Haze on Dec 21, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks much, my friend!
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 21, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
You fucking idiot
I knew that would get you to read this: BV, I wish you the most wonderful holidays ever. You’re a fantastic asset to BE and we’re lucky to have you amongst us. You’ve earned every rec X 1,000.
War BV.
by ( . Y . ) on Dec 21, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hahahah
I always read your comments you buffoon, my man Titties! Thanks for the kind words, comrade. You’ve long been a supporter.
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 21, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Love this
I’m stoked to see your list. Awesome work, man.
"Denique nullumst iam dictum quod non dictum sit prius."-- Terence
"By doubting we come to inquiry and by inquiry we perceive the truth." -- Abelard
Thanks much! Hopefully it'll meet everyone's standards.
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 22, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
can it just be Dec 30th already?
next weekends YWICS BETTER BE BROCKLESNAR BROCKLESNAR BROCKLE SNAR
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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Dec 22, 2011 6:20 AM EST reply actions
Your Weekend in Brock Lesnar?
YWIBL?
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Now that's my idea of a Saturday afternoon.
An annoying Fitch fan. Also, captain of the inaugural BE Civil War champions, the K-1 Level Predictions Team.
BE Civil War Season 2 Sign-ups!
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by Zachary Kater on Dec 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
#BVArmy
Very much looking forward to the countdown!
Thanks buddy!
Hope it measures up! Giggity.
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by BVandDietPepsi on Dec 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
No combat sports, but the NBA is back this weekend for the 4 of you on here who care.
An annoying Fitch fan. Also, captain of the inaugural BE Civil War champions, the K-1 Level Predictions Team.
BE Civil War Season 2 Sign-ups!
Follow @zakkree
not so stoked for the return of basketball
as I am for the return of basketball highlights on ESPN
BOOMSHAKALAKA
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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Dec 23, 2011 12:58 AM EST reply actions

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