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The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale: Tony Ferguson vs. Yves Edwards Dissection

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In main card action at Saturday night's The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale, Tony Ferguson, the winner of TUF 13, meets lightweight veteran Yves Edwards.

Tony Ferguson (12-2) has emerged as a very promising talent with devastating finishing skills. Thus far, throughout his three fights on the reality show and his two subsequent performances in UFC events, Ferguson has treated us to nothing but violent stoppages with an unruly striking arsenal. Justin Edwards was able to take him down in his opening match on the show, but Ferguson clipped Edwards with an up-kick from his back to register the first of many TKOs.

Ferguson would handle business with his precise boxing from that point forward, closing out Ryan McGillivray and Chuck O'Neil with brutal combinations to advance to the finale, where fellow finalist Ramsey Nijem crumbled under Ferguson's long and crisp punches. Having clenched the TUF crown as a welterweight, Ferguson dropped down to lightweight, where the advantages of his lanky stature became even more imperious. His power was authenticated when the venerable Aaron Riley couldn't continue past the first round due to a broken jaw in their UFC 135 clash.

Yves Edwards (41-17-1) made his Octagon debut in 2001 against Matt Serra at UFC 33. The last decade has been a roller coaster ride of ups and downs and new fight teams and weight classes in just about every promotion imaginable, but Edwards has always competed against the elite and constantly reinvented himself to remain at the sport's pinnacle. He's the type of wily veteran who can never be discounted and has the mentality and tools to unhinge any lightweight. His agility, kickboxing and grappling are top shelf and he's accrued a wealth of experience to implement his strengths with extreme efficiency.

After the darkest stage of his career in 2005-2007, Edwards has recently mounted a sturdy turnaround by winning five of his last seven, marred only by a conspicuous decision to Mike Campbell in the Moosin promotion and a picture-perfect left hook delivered by Sam Stout at UFC 131. Stout interrupted Edwards' momentum from consecutive wins (John Gunderson, Cody McKenzie) after being reinstated to the UFC, but the Thugjitsu practitioner realigned his progress with a rousing TKO over Rafaello Oliveira on the UFC on Versus 6 card in his last outing.

Gifs and analysis in the full entry.

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Free Movement Phase

Ferguson has a few traits that allow him to set the tone with his hands and make his opponent react to his pace: his height (6'0"), excessive reach (76") and wrestling background. This typically keeps the fight exactly where Ferguson is strongest. Yves will have the choice of playing the stand up game with him or trying to drag him into a different phase of combat.

Striking-wise, Edwards has diverse kickboxing with incredible accuracy, timing, footwork and speed. He's strong defensively but his confidence to stay in the pocket and throw counters has gotten him in trouble lately.

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Out of his almost sixty career showings, all four of Edwards' TKO losses have come in the last one-third of his tenure. So, even though I'd consider him the more polished striking technician, his dwindling chin resilience and lack of one-punch power make it awful risky to tackle Ferguson's boxing head on.

To put his physical advantages in perspective, Ferguson, a lightweight, has the same reach length as Nick Diaz, a spidery welterweight. In the first animation above, the depth and torsional snap of his punches are apparent and, to the left, Ferguson also fakes a level drop to keep Riley on his heels and back pedaling.

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Keeping in mind how Ferguson's dictatorial length will make closing the distance a stiff challenge, we shouldn't overlook that he's yet to encounter a striker of Edwards' caliber. When committing to combinations and seeking a knockout, Ferguson, like almost every fighter, does leave a few pathways to his chin exposed as well.

To the right we see a nice example of how Edward's timing and accuracy could find one of those pathways. This is a basic right hook counter that sails over the top and stuns Oliveira, leaving him dazed enough for Edwards to pounce mercilessly.

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To be fair, here's a scenario showing how critical Edwards' selection of strikes will be. The boxing he opens up with is solid, but when he closes the sequence with the right high kick, Oliveira is able to defend and lance a right hand through when Edwards is vulnerable.

I'm interested to see how Edwards attempts to manipulate the pace on the feet: as a patient counter striker picking and choosing his spots or by cranking up the aggression and leading attacks. While he may end up getting the better here, I'm leaning toward Ferguson for his reach and power by a slight margin.

Clinch Phase 3_medium

Most of the clinch-work we've seen from Ferguson has been nasty dirty boxing from the single collar tie position.

The kid thrives on pressure from a distance and his constant stalking led to more punishment at close range with Riley's back on the fence. Ferguson's fixation on unrelenting offense is his best strength, but could also be his undoing if he's too reckless against a composed tactician like Edwards.

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Yves is more of a finesse fighter, but his technique and experience gives him a strong clinch with good leverage from his base and use of underhooks.

Generally smacking of a Thai style, Edwards immediately looks to control the head and upper body to prevent takedowns, gather his balance and sting with short knees, punches and elbows.

Ferguson has been content to send missiles flying in the clinch and hasn't implemented his wrestling background very much, so I expect Yves to clinch to escape his grasp and skate free out into open space.

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Phase Shifting

This category is designated to assess which fighter should have the better control over which phase of combat the fight will actualize in. When Ferguson does invoke his takedown prowess, it's like having an ace up his sleeve and a great complement to his striking voracity.

To the right, Ferguson shoots a defensive double leg to alleviate the pressure Nijem is applying. Having the ability to fall back on takedowns gives him a secondary option to exercise that's perfect for opponents who are planting their feet and going after him with strikes.

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This typically means that Ferguson doesn't struggle with what the gif to the left depicts, which is Oliveira telegraphing a takedown from too far outside with absolutely no set up. In fact, the only takedowns we've seen Ferguson shoot have been when his opponent wades too deep while firing strikes so a simple level change and explosion has sufficed.

Edwards' footwork is imperative to his takedown defense, as evinced by the hard circle he cuts to his left to keep his hips out of reach. He whizzers Oliveira's right arm and quickly transitions to head control and starts attacking once he's stabilized.

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I imagine Ferguson's size and wrestling background will put him in the driver's seat for where the fight takes place.

Scrambling

I wouldn't normally include scrambling as a standalone category, but think it deserves mention here. Edwards is one of the craftiest scramblers in the game who would enjoy a significant advantage over most relatively inexperienced wrestlers. However, as the slick forward roll to the right shows, Ferguson has unveiled innate creativity in scrambling situations.

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Still, I see transitions like this as the perfect area for Yves to let his astounding experience shine through.

I'm not sure he can take Ferguson down, but if he can threaten with a submission in the clinch or counter a takedown by spinning to his back or initiating any kind of a scramble, Edwards could quickly turn the tide.

Being the more complete fighter who's persevered through virtually every situation of a top-level MMA fight, Edwards is deadly in transitions. He has a keen grasp of position and technique that creates opportunities to latch submissions in high paced scrambles and Ferguson's striking and size won't help him here.

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Grappling

While Ferguson should have the larger influence over the location of the contest, Edwards has incredible submission grappling and should wreak havoc if he can settle in on the ground in any position.

He has a litany of sweeps, escapes and submission attempts that I just don't think it's humanly possible for Ferguson to compete with at his existing level. If he puts Edwards on his back and makes sure to maintain good posture and not dive into Edwards' guard for any length of time, he should be able to win the shorter exchanges, but Edwards is easily the more proven beast on the ground.

I think the bundle of skills that Ferguson touts with his exceptional stature poses a tremendous obstacle. His boxing is sharp, powerful, long and relentless, and also backed by good head movement and the threat of takedowns. This leaves a wide range of things to account for from a defensive standpoint. I have a feeling that Edwards will be forced to duel standing and be left with finding an opening and doing damage.

I wouldn't rule that out by any means, especially if he tries to time Ferguson's side-to-side head movement with a roundhouse kick. Ferguson has a lot of momentum and could come in overconfident and over-aggressive. Yves is also the better pure grappler but I'm not sure he'll get the chance to show it. The question marks are how mature Ferguson will be in respecting the technical skill of Edwards' kickboxing, how good his chin is and how much he'll temper his raw aggression. Either way, even though it's his biggest test to date, I think this is Ferguson's fight to win.

My Prediction: Tony Ferguson by TKO



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Anybody else think Yves was dead

…when Stout knocked him out with his eyes open haha.

by potato623 on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

That was a little scary.

Carwin’s face after the main event that night was scary, too. A scary night of fights was that night, Joe.

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by KatGirl on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Not funny

Because … yeah, I kinda did.

It was a very scary Tank Abbot vs. Steve Nelmark type of “fuck, he’s dead?” KO.

I really like and respect Yves too. Good guy, great fighter.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe it was a pre lim fight right

I remember watching it and being like, that dude is dead, holy shit. Glad he was alright. But at the time it was like

BOOM! Yves is out cold, eyes open, think’s he’s in omaha and then a Taco Bell comercial comes on…it’s like what the fuck, is he alright

by potato623 on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

El Cucuy takes this methinks

"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz

by Chris Groves on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Great nick name but I hope your'e wrong

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Ferguson hits way too hard and Edwards getting starched by Stout just keeps playing in my head. I don’t like Yves chances here. Ferguson by (T)KO.

Aimed at the crotch...

by Damon O. on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Stout has incredible timing and technique though

Even if he’s shockingly slow. I’m super high on Ferguson but hesitate to put him at Stout’s level technique-wise.

However, his length and power might make up for it.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not the technique that I'm worried about.

It’s the power. What he’s done so far has been terrifying. And I agree that Stout is far above Ferguson as far as technique goes but he’s about as pillow fisted as it gets at LW.

Aimed at the crotch...

by Damon O. on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Hands of Foam

But I agree with what you’re saying. That’s why I called his left hook “picture perfect” as it was ideal technique and placement that turned Yves’ lights out.

Ferg has icky power and his reach is fairly ludicrous for a LW.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yves was lighting Stout up and got caught with a perfect punch.

Yves can win this fight as long as he doesn’t get hit too many times.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d almost like to see a rematch of that fight, Yves was definitely winning until he got too comfortable in the pocket and ate that left.

by lolumad on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah as a fanboy I would too.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I too feel that this will be Ferguson’s biggest test to date, and he may be in trouble here, but I think that Ferguson will win this one. His combination of length, striking, and wrestling, and that he’s still a young up-and-comer make him dangerous for Edwards. Edwards has the experience and still a solid skillset, but he’s not young anymore.

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by chrisbboy82 on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Word

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey everybody, stop making the smart pick

stop picking ferguson because he’ll prolly win. start thinking with your heart damnit, Yves is gonna whoop dat azz.
but in all seriousness, should be a good fight, and it’ll be interesting to see just how good ferguson really is

"I will beat you into a living death" – Ken Shamrock

by mpk46 on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

I'm totally geeked for this fight

Thus the encyclopedia write up.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm dying to see what happens if Ferguson can't put Yves away in the first 8 minutes.

If experience is going to play a factor, it’ll be when that feeling of invicibility Ferguson has right now drops away and Yves is still standing right in front of him.

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by POW on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

On the experience thing

It will come into play anytime with Yves counters and sick scrambling skills too.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yves got too confident with Stout if he plays it cool I think it's his fight to lose.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

is that king diamond in your pic?

by youfailme91 on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

"He pushed her down the stairs, then she DIED, NO she Cried!"

Yes sir it is.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

very nice i love how that dude sounds like three people singing at the same time, he got some serious pipes to em

by youfailme91 on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He's top five metal vocalists of all time.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Tony's aggression will trump Yves experience early.

With young fighters who are rolling the way he is right now, I believe you have to take away some of their lightning first. Just surviving a while and returning fire can do that, especially when somebody’s been finishing all his fights early.

I don’t really believe grappling will play much of a role in this fight.

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by POW on Dec 2, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Start thinking with my heart?

I am! Orale Tony! Arriba la raza!!!!!!!! =P

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by xFenixKnightx on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Yves is def a step up in competition for Ferguson but goddamn does that kid pack a punch

by youfailme91 on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

I've missed these

Great work as always, Dallas. I wish they’d just feed Yves cans instead of a hungry, fast, powerful prospect like Ferguson. It’s almost as if they want to see another brutal KO.

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by wonderfulspam on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks man

I think I overcompensated for the void last week by making this a longwinded essay.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yves deserves the longwinded treatment

Looking forward to the rest of the dissections (and secretly hoping they’ll be even more longwinded and vocabolicious)!

Spinning with the Fishes for the 2011/2012 BE Civil War. IT'S ON!

by wonderfulspam on Dec 2, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

my first and only live fight

was in the late 90’s and Edwards dislodged someones teeth with a knee. I’ve been a fan ever since.

Video:
http://www.valleytudo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=165%3Aextreme-shootout&Itemid=90

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

His flying head kick of Thompson is one of my first UFC memories.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that awesome

so sneaky.

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Dec 2, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Flying Panther Kick

FTW

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

"Flying Panther Kick" Never heard that before but I love it.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Either Yves or one of his training partners

Coined that on the UG after the fight.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way

I always think of that kick as the bastard son of Faber vs. Brown 1 and Njokuani vs. Horodecki. If … like, those fight outcomes mated and had a baby.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yes

the Njokuani one is very similar right?

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Dec 2, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Dec 2, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He deserved a kick in the head for that

oh, wait…

"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz

by Chris Groves on Dec 2, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Notice how he taps Thompson on the shoulder before he throws it?

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by MicahtheCynic on Dec 2, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

"excuse me sir"

“huh”
“WHAM”

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Dec 2, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I would say that these are good as usual, Dallas, but this may have been the best breakdown yet, I read it twice just to try and devour it all. Awesome, awesome work man. I’m sure I can speak on behalf of the community and say that we appreciate the hours you pour into these far more than we could ever say.

KEMvP

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by T.C. Engel on Dec 2, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ferguson’s striking is arrogantly overbearing or domineering?
You couldn’t just say his advantage is magnified? Sorry to be an annoying picky pants, but really, simple is often better.

by McEwen on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a fan of the snooty language, make me forget I'm reading stuff on the internet.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Dec 2, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

if you don't like fight breakdowns with pedantic hermeneutics...

I say good day, sir. I will say that the colorful descriptors can make the praise overbearing and affected at times, but no one else is doing breakdowns close to this in-depth and meticulous, anywhere.

If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.

by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 2, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad post

I hate people who use big words and gaudy descriptions.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

then in my expert opinion...

you sir, are a self-loathing masochist.

If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.

by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 2, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much love you

In the most masculine and socially acceptable way possible.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is magnified any better?

It’s just another description. And simple equals repetition when you’re analyzing a pile of finite details per fight in so many fights per week.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I can totally relate.

I always say that words are used to convey thoughts and the more words you know, the more detailed ideas you can communicate; which is kinda the whole idea behind language. Vocabulary is like takedown defense- don’t blame the wrestler, learn how to stop the takedown.

If your wife owes money to Jackie Treehorn... that means you owe money to Jackie Treehorn.

by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Magnified may not be the greatest choice ever, but at least it would have been used correctly. Saying his striking is “imperious”, which means “arrogantly overbearing or domineering” and is meant to refer to a person’s personality or behaviour, is, at best, awkwardly worded.

by McEwen on Dec 2, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

No offense

But I’m really sick of people whining about the stupid shit, especially when they’re wrong and telling me I’m wrong at the same time.

Imperious is NOT meant to only apply to a person’s behavior, and even if it was, Ferguson’s behavior when he’s punching the shit out of people is indeed “arrogantly overbearing or domineering” and that’s exactly how I fucking meant it.

Imperious comes from the Latin words “imperiosus” meaning “mighty, powerful” and “imperium” meaning “command, authority, power”. So please get your shit figured out so you can at least whine correctly instead of incorrectly.

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Now THAT’s imperious.

by McEwen on Dec 3, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Dictatorial length was an awesome phrase

Sometimes simpler is better, but sometimes 1 outstanding word can describe better than a dozen unimaginative ones.

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Dec 2, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.
However, I prefer them to be used properly. Imperious (which is the word I was complaining about) wasn’t.

Oh Jebus……I sound like such a dick. But anytime I see big words used incorrectly, I keep thinking of the Omar Epps character from The Program who tried to use the word of the day to sound smarter but sounded like a dumbass instead.

by McEwen on Dec 2, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

See the definition of imperious above

Thanks.

-Omar Epps

"Release man from the shackles of flesh and flesh misery and then he's no longer a poor, petty little man afraid to dream because he knows his frail body stands between him and the fulfillment of dreams, then he's ready to wage war, the only war worth waging-- the conflict of man reborn and the whole confounded universe!"

by Dallas Winston on Dec 2, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough

looks like you got your chance to hash it all out. I agree with you in principle, it’s annoying to see big words used in sort-of-but-not-quite-right ways.

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Dec 3, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm

"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him that a year ago. I pulled it out of him and beat him over the head with it. [Now] I'm going to drink a Coors Light. That's right a Coors. Bud Light don't pay me nothing. I may even get on top of my wife tonight," Brock Lesnar.

by IcyAbyss on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

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