Vadim Finkelstein Calls Dana White 'A Dog on Hay' and Discusses Fedor vs. Ishii
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 19, 2011 1:01 PM EST
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In a recent interview with Vadim Finkelstein at championat.com, Fedor Emelianenko's manager has some choice things to say about UFC president Dana White. It starts out with him explaining that the only fight they were willing to take at DREAM was the fight they took against Satoshi Ishii and transitions into taking some shots at the UFC and Dana.
From the interview (transcribed on The Underground by judom):
- There is information that Fedor will get 500,000$ for the Ishii fight. This is a solid sum considering the financial problems DREAM has experienced lately.
The sum 500,000$ is incorrect. This is all nonsense. At this moment, for us, the key thing is the level of the opponent, and not how much we get paid. I can say that if we were unable to agree with Ishii, we wouldn't participate in this tournament. We had concurrent offers with other DREAM fighters, but this is not for Fedor's level, and we didn't want to have a fight with mediocre fighters, taking a step backwards. We want to be taking steps forward and we will follow this in the future.
- So, these steps forward, likely implies that next year will be rich in events. What will that be for Fedor ?
We want to have 3 fights. One in Russia, one in Europe, and one in the USA. We really want to get a rematch with Werdum, but he is locked up in the prison called UFC, and because of that arranging for him to fight Fedor would be very difficult.
Dana White is like a dog on hay -- he neither eats it himself, nor lets the others eat it. There are many other good fighters, whom we are considering. For instance, Josh Barnett. We need to wait for the StrikeForce HW's tournament to end and then we can see how likely it is that we can arrange a fight.
This is just the reality of having a heavyweight without a Zuffa contract. Ishii is about as good of an option as there is for Fedor. The only top 25 heavyweights who aren't currently signed to the UFC or Strikeforce are Fedor and Cole Konrad, and Bellator isn't letting Konrad fight anyone but other Bellator fighters any time soon.
With the Strikeforce heavyweight division being eliminated it may free up someone decent but I don't see Zuffa just dumping a high level heavyweight fighter.
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500K from Dream Mr Fink? Odds are 2 to 1 that shit either bounces or never gets sent in the mail.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Actually, with FEG out of the picture for this event and it being a Real Entertainment thing
M-1 will most likely be getting paid.
Oh it'll be sent all right,
at which point it will become “lost in the mail.”
M-1 is like a turd on top of Fedor
Because it is shit and its stink has rubbed off on Fedor
I would say M1 is more like a dingleberry.
Made mostly out of shit and clinging desperately to some poor asshole.
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by POW on Dec 19, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 27 recs
Couldn't said it better
Myself. What a bunch of idiots, ruined a man’s career and now crying about it and blaming someone else. L
This confuses me
I thought dingleberry was the frozen yogurt Dana always raves about? Now we have M-2 associated with the same frozen yogurt?!
I'm confused...
Is Vadim implying that Dana should be ingesting Werdum? And I ask you this, Finklestein: If Dana won’t let anyone eat his Werdum-made-of-hay, why would he put him in there with Roy Nelson, huh?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 19, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions
I’m just surprised that Vadim is so intimidated by dogs. Just hit the dog in the fucking head and take the hay.
Also, I love Soviet colloquialisms.
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by krcampbell on Dec 19, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
In Soviet Russia
hay eats you!
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by Avap on Dec 19, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think what the Fink is getting at is this:
Fecalstain is pissed at Dana because Dana won’t let the Fink do to the UFC fighters what the Fink is accusing Dana of doing, which seems to involve dogs and hay and not sharing and hurt feelings.
But seriously, he seems to be kind of mad that Dana is hording certain fighters, Barnett, Werdum, potential last-ditch money makers for M-1, if they weren’t tied up to Zuffa/Forza. Now he’s bitter because there are only Tim Sylvia’s and Brett Rogers left and Fecalstain knows those fights won’t mean shit and there’s always a potential for Fedor to get caught.
by Fantomasnomore on Dec 20, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Vadim must lack total self awareness. He’s the dog who comes along, sees the big pile of hay and not only wants a big pile of it but wants all the other dogs to know he’s partly responsible for it being there?
…I don’t know. This is a stupid metaphor. Since when do dogs eat hay? Is that a Russian thing?
by ihateemo on Dec 19, 2011 1:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 11 recs
i think the whole point is that dogs don't eat hay
I may be wrong but it seems like Vadim is saying that Dana has so much but doesn’t use it and doesn’t let others use it if that makes any sense.
This is it.
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ah Russia...
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by Victor Rodriguez on Dec 19, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
That is the point
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Zuffa has all of the top 10 HWs and 23 out of 25 of the top 25 HWs. Historically, there has never been a HW matchmaking pool that is even half as deep as the depth the UFC will have after the Strikeforce HWs are merged. They will actually have enough quality HW fighters that they could do a 32 man grand prix.
32 man grand prix?
Given Strikeforce’s shamozzle of a grand prix with only 8 fighters, I hope this doesn’t happen.
And I know it won’t.
Dana’s on my side.
Dogs on Hay...thats a euphemism for crack head right I could totally see that
Im sure Bellator would gladly have Fedor in their tournament just as long as he is ok with 100k for winning and all that.
Their aren’t quality HW outside of Zuffa might as well just send him to the UFC and plaster M-1 Global on every inch of his body
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Vadim is the dog eating hay
Dana is eating filet mignon.
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Josh Barnett
UFC may very well dump him and Josh vs Fedor would still be great. I hope he fights in the UFC, but with Dana…you never know.
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This
Vadim just sealed Barnett’s fate, he is 100% UFC bound now, expressly for the point of fucking with Vadim now.
NO WAY that fight happens.
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by hardlyworking on Dec 19, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see Barnett in the UFC...
lots of fun fights for him, and you have a division with more than 2 fighters, so if he pisses hot again you can shuttle a replacement in quickly.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 19, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Or he might just amp up the price a bit by showing interest
Then let Vadim have his hay.Or not give a shit at all.
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Aren't you paying attention!?
Dana will keep Barnett, only to lay on him and not let him fight, nor let Vadim eat him…. wait, what?
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by John Danaher's Hair on Dec 19, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
arrite lets do a couple lines here
didn’t want to have a fight with mediocre fighters, taking a step backwards
Ishii isn’t a step back? From Werdum and Hendo? ……………………………………………………… Yea, ok.
Dana White is like a dog on hay
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
He's coming off of the Monson fight
So a step-up / sideways is debatable.
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which was a monumental step down the mountain itself
and I like the snowman
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 19, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely true
Still, right now, Ishi is not a step further down anymore.
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If you think about the second line long enough
one of two things will happen.
1) You will understand and appreciate Vadim’s prowess at creating magnificent analogies.
2) You will have a seizure.
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by Avap on Dec 19, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I did not know anything fedor has done as of late could be considered forward progression?
This guys worried about taking steps backwards??
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IShii just made his 205 debut, why is he going back to HW and how is this a step up for Fedor?
Also if you google “vadim m1” in the link for “www.m-1global.com/tag/vadim-finkelstein/” it says ‘free live streaming porn – Vadim Finkelstein | M-1Global.com’ in the title of the link.
I guess they’ll do anything to trick people into watching them.
It's just a world, it's just a life.
Why doesn’t M1 have Fedor fight Guram Gugenishvili their own M-1 HW Champion?
I know he probably ducked Maxim Grishin because they are both Red Devil, but there is no excuse for him not to fight Guram other than Guram is a sambo master and 25 years old and undefeated.
I wash my hands of Vadim and his hay-laying.
It's just a world, it's just a life.
by DirtyML on Dec 19, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I am willing to miss out on some good matchups with Fedor
just to see M1 suffer. Fucking shitheads.
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by IKiIIed007 on Dec 19, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
A dog on hay.....
Silly Russians thinking the world is familiar with goofy Russian aphorisms.
by MostDiabolicalCasanova on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Vadim, gambled and won/lost. He won big pay days for Fedor at the cost of Fedor’s reputation.
Before I thought Zuffa buying SF and keeping them around made no sense. But now I see Zuffa has effectively cornered the HW market for the next 2-3 years. Which, lets be honest, only hurts M1/Fedor.
The whole M-1 "organization" is delusional
I have no idea where they got the idea that they matter… There’s a reason Gegard Mousasi dumped these fools, because he realized he would never get anywhere with them. There’s no advantage to being represented by them.
My biggest gripe with M-1 global is they’re trying to make MMA like boxing. They demand that they be allowed to co-promote events, and put their name on shows, like with Affliction, Strikeforce and even going so far as to make the same demands of UFC. They’re all just a bunch of hangers-on to a fighter who just isn’t relevant in this new age of MMA.
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Looks like you beat me to the punch on the Yakov Smirnoff reference. Side note: Wikipedia says he is a professor Missouri State University.
"All noble things are as difficult as they are rare."
- Baruch Spinoza
The most classless fan in college football since 1984.
he's been living in Branson forever.
i’m not surprised by that. but i still find shit hilarious.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Dec 19, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he's also apparently at Drury
teaching the “business of laughter.” This has to be made up.
"All noble things are as difficult as they are rare."
- Baruch Spinoza
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we still talking about Missouri?
then the answer is no. i will take this as a claim that is entirely serious in nature. how could you not take this man seriously?
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by Victor Rodriguez on Dec 19, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well when you put it like that
I just feel silly. That is the most scholarly gentleman I have ever seen.
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by Avap on Dec 19, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At this moment, for us, the key thing is the level of the opponent, and not how much we get paid.
Yes, they want a mediocre opponent with a semi recognizable name. Also, I’m sorry Fedor but if you want another shot at Werdum you have to earn your way there. You can’t get fights on name alone anymore.
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He mean the opposite of everything he says.
- Money is not important = money is important
- We want to fight the top guys = looking for the most dented cans on the shelf
- Championships are not important to us = Sure wish I hadn’t sold that WAMMA belt on eBay
- Dana White is a slave-master to his fighters = Sure wish I could get a piece of that action
- M-1 Is a legit MMA promotion = Bellator and BAMMA trip us in the hallway and steal our lunch money
- Fedor is the greatest fight on the planet = Where did I leave my time machine?
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by jackbox on Dec 19, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think he is implying that Dana has an ass-ton of money, and Vadim wants to play with it.
Did you see the size of that chicken?
Dana will let him dive in the Money pit on Tuesday, from 2 to3 pm, only on the shallow side.
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by dandeman on Dec 19, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You'd have to be strong as shit
to be able to literally “swim” through solid coins.
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by SentientAndroid on Dec 19, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
There is no reason
to even report on M-1 anymore.
Vadim ruined Fedor's
legacy and cash castle as well.He could have fought Brock and won ,then the UFC marketing would have made him a famous icon of tremendous proportions.Imagine the millions of dollars of endorsement deals he could have garnered from big money corporations that would have made his paychecks a pocket change in comparison.
A non-entity (Vadim) discussing an irrelevancy (Fedor)
Barnett in the UFC (again) would be very fun. I think he’d make a great TUF coach (at least personality-wise) with Frank Mir the opposing coach. Who will stand with me on this???
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by jackbox on Dec 19, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No I think they said "ho".
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