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Video: UFC Legend Jens Pulver Brutally Knocked Out by Tim Elliot

Jens Pulver during better days.

Jens Pulver headlined the RFA card in Nebraska and faced off against Tim Elliot, an undersized bantamweight with a 6-2-1 record against not-so-stellar competition. Despite people calling for him to end his career on a high note after earning a decent win over Coty Wheeler last August, he still stepped in the cage once again last night.

Like most of the fights he's had these past few years, things didn't go well again for the former UFC champion. This time, it ended up worse than his other losses.

It was truly a sad scene as the 37-year-old Pulver clearly looked like he doesn't have much left in the tank. He survived getting dropped by a left hook during the first round, but as the 2nd round went on, Pulver got tagged repeatedly and eventually got brutally knocked out with a huge knee.

Pulver laid there motionless for an extended period of time.

The knockout loss marks his 9th defeat in his last 13 fights. It's time to stop pretending that those other losses were simply due to submission skills that he had to shore up. Let's hope Pulver finally hangs up the gloves and moves on to other things that wouldn't do serious damage to his long term health.

Watch the footage of the second round below (finish is at 2:25):

Check out video of the first round after the jump.

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He said he sucked dick for coke, and asked Chappelle if he ever sucked dick for weed

by iddqd on Dec 17, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

seen that movie too many times

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“I seen him!” – other guy

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by Clark Griswald on Dec 17, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

If you can cheer wandy getting KO’ed, you can cheer pulver getting ko’ed.

"UFC is so gay, pride is awesome!"

by Hendo_One-Shot on Dec 17, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not necessarily cheering it

it’s just what I thought, and then I confirmed when I watched the video

I got mad love for Jens since the WEC it’s just rough watching him, Severn, and Frye get KTFO’d

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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Dec 17, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Smokey!

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by RECE ROCK on Dec 17, 2011 7:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

"HEY EVERYBODY!!!

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“I won’t tell nobody else”

by Clark Griswald on Dec 17, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

everybody is supposed to be in it, even d-bo. Of course its not going be as good as the first or second, then the third was kinda ehh, but still as long as they keep making them i’ll keep watching. Even though they said its the last one.

by mikeI981j on Dec 17, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not watching it either.

It’s just gotten depressing seeing him fight.

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by Zachary Kater on Dec 17, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Idk man,

that was a pretty sweet knockout sequence.

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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 17, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Athletic commissions are not living up to their mandates.

Letting fighters fight when they can no longer be competitive against their peers is the kind of thing which can lead to death or permanent damage in the cage, which is the kind of PR disaster MMA doesn’t need.

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by IKiIIed007 on Dec 17, 2011 6:00 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah. It’s not like it was a one sided ass kicking until the knockout.

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by Hendo_One-Shot on Dec 17, 2011 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree this is pretty much on Jens alone and somewhat the team around him if they are feeding him lies about how good he looks, etc but jens mostly.He is the one who makes that choice to step in there or not.

by Shocbomb on Dec 17, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

hangem up jens

you said you werent getting ko’d in your losses , but now you are.

that was a scary ko.

I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.

by elmojo on Dec 17, 2011 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. A big punch, a front kick and a knee to the face and all they can say is “oooooohhhh”

by iddqd on Dec 17, 2011 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

they basically missed calling the biggest moment in the fight because one guy was determined to finish his sentence about something else.

by iddqd on Dec 17, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? This was better play by play then I've seen in a while at the major promotions.

Methinks people have gotten too used to the voice shouting about taps to the body or Joe Rogan screaming about every submission attempt.

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by Jim America on Dec 17, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to see Big John in there to stop it.

by Beau Dure on Dec 17, 2011 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

Looks like little eagle aint soaring again..

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by tkotom on Dec 17, 2011 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

please stop, jens

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by Earl Montclair on Dec 17, 2011 9:03 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Or the UFC could offer Pulver a job as a trainer in one of their gyms

You know, that chain of UFC gyms that also offers MMA training to people?

As it is, the sport of MMA as a major sport is still in an embryonic level. While MMA has been around for 18 years (or more if you include early Shooto), in the United States it has only been a major sport for a little over 5. Outside of the Big Four sports (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL), only the PGA has a pension plan, and none of them have a pension where one can collect before the age of 50. NASCAR, with an estimated value of $50+ billion, still does not have a pension plan. The NFL, despite being the league with the most annual revenue in all of sports globally, has a pension that for many players is still below the poverty line, at about $200-300 per month per season played, with a minimum of 3 seasons played as the starting point.

Right now, any sort of pension is frankly premature. Fighters do not even get a monthly per diem (yes I know that technically translates to “per day” but as UFC fighters are technically independent contractors and not employees, they would not be paid a “salary”) should really come before a pension plan. And Jens Pulver is 37, he is not an old man. What he needs is another career. He is just higher profile than most UFC burnouts because he was so great at one point.

I would start with small signing bonuses (negotiated individually but starting at maybe $2000 as a base) plus a very small monthly per diem for fighters at about $1000 a month to supplement purse income. I think that’s something that should be done very near term.

If the UFC completes its first seven-year Fox contract and comes back with an even more lucrative one to follow it, and if they manage to move their business model away from being so heavily PPV-centric so it can be a bit more stable (even the WWE at their peak never relied on PPV as heavily as the UFC does, as they’ve always had a much more even mix of revenue from merchandising, tv rights, and live gates (including house shows)), then we can talk about very low-level pensions to start, maybe starting with a threshold of fighters who have had at least six fights under the Zuffa banner, collectable when fighters turn 55 (this is in line with the NBA and NFL and when NHL players receive the bulk of their pensions; MLB, despite being the most generous of the Big Four with their pensions and also the most proactive, do not pay them until a player reaches 62), with payouts based on the number of fights they’ve had with Zuffa. Pensions could maybe become retroactive at that point anyway. Also, I would add a clause where any fighter convicted of violent felony after Zuffa hires them invalidates their right to a pension. Because fuck that shit, I don’t care if you fight ten times in the UFC and become a title contender, you beat your wife or rob a bank or whatever, no pension for you. As the UFC reaches absolute fiscal stability and also cultural maturity as a major sport (and no, they are not there yet even if they’re getting there) then we can talk more about making those initial low-level pensions larger.

The Fertitas as far as I know haven’t even paid off their debt on Station Casinos, although it looks like the UFC may enable that to happen, so let’s hold off on stuff that would be way down the line.

tl;dr: Pulver is 37. Dude needs another job not a pension right now.

by Chromium on Dec 17, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure a number of people have come forth in various pieces over the last few years and said that this is unequivocally not true. He was never offered a position with the WEC.

by VirtualBalboa on Dec 17, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no desire to watch this vid.

Time to hang em up, Jens. You’re were a great fighter, and you’ve still got talent as a commentator. Time to switch paths..

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by Chris Hall on Dec 17, 2011 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

fuck

i thought he could be back in ufc after i watched wheeler fight but now i just dont wanna see him getting ko’ed like that again.

hes a legend and hes one of the reasons why i started watching mma. this is really hard to watch.

please hang up the gloves pulver.

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by DK_Monster on Dec 17, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

Echoing the sentiments of those above me

Please hang ‘em up Jens. You’re one of my all time favorites and it’s painful to watch what your career has become.

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by Worldisart on Dec 17, 2011 9:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Does Pulver need the $$ or just love the sport?

Sad to see him getting such a brutal lose. I’m sure if it’s the $$ he can do something mma related without getting in the cage.

by mmachiro on Dec 17, 2011 10:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

both i would imagine….but he doesn’t have it anymore.

by Taiter on Dec 17, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Not only that...

On his twitter, Jens said, “Sorry to all who support me, I half assed the training and got wrecked deservedly so.”
How does Team Curran even let him compete if he’s not training all the way. Haven’t Jeff and his brother been in the game long enough to know when a fighter is ready or not?
It’s not only just the fighter who needs to hang it up, it’s the leeches like trainers, managers, and coaches who are trying to make a quick dollar.

If Jen’s doc. ‘Driven’ was that sad, I can’t imagine his mental state now.

by butt.bar.bandit on Dec 17, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

it is obviously the money

nobody likes getting their brains scrambled for the “love of the sport” shit

This will happen more and more as the sports grows. MMA is no different than the NFL, NBA, ect… just because they make money doens’t mean they know how to save. Doubt Jen’s as a solid retirement plan.

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by dbcb on Dec 17, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Jens nev made a lot of money in MMA

Unfortunately his hey day was well before there was much money in the sport.

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by Worldisart on Dec 17, 2011 11:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What he did make his Family spent it anyways from the way he tells it. and if that is the case thats pretty dam sad that he was the bread winner for so many and all they did was shit on him in the end.

by Shocbomb on Dec 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

happens to very well paid athletes int he other sports too

Trash is gonna be trash

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by dbcb on Dec 17, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Time to move on for Jens....

….it has been for a long time. I got tired of listening to his farewell speeches long ago.

by Taiter on Dec 17, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Jens

I mean this in the kindest possible way, but freaking hang ‘em up. The more heartache of seeing you lose, the less I want to care about you at all. Stay relevant and do some commentating or something. You can still get food on the table with the amount of name value you still have, don’t let it fade away.

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by halitosis on Dec 17, 2011 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Is Jens Pulver really a UFC legend? Sure he had a great career, but calling him a legend seems a little bit too much.

by discoandherpes on Dec 17, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

I agree 100%,yes he was a good top LW during his prime and that BJ win was Epic a underdog W that fans will talk about for years t come but his record and the impact he had on the sport for that time is no where near that of a legend

by Shocbomb on Dec 17, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Pulver was the first lightweight Champ, defended his belt twice.

Of course he’s a legend. Dude beat BJ Penn, Hallman, and Joe Stevenson among others.

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- Warden of Ashecliffe Hospital

by ElliotMatheny on Dec 17, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

he beat BJ when BJ was fighting in his fourth MMA fight. he beat Joe when Joe was fighting in his third MMA fight

his win over Hallman has some credibility as Hallman racked up a pretty good record & notable wins leading up to his fight with Pulver. sure Pulver defended his title twice but it doesn’t have much of a meaning compared to other UFC champs who have defended their belt multiple times. Pulver is not a legend. he was just an above average fighter with a couple of notable wins over well known fighters.

by daftshadow on Dec 17, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

When he beat Joe

Pulver himself was in only his 4th MMA fight. He beat BJ at 155 and only one other person can say that.

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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Dec 17, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

By that logic Matt Serra is a legend.

by discoandherpes on Dec 17, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Rough week

This, The Predator being whomped by a can, losing a couple of great personalities in Hitchens and Whitman, Brandon Roy retiring, dang.

by Dootch on Dec 17, 2011 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

still making excuses

awesome

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by dbcb on Dec 17, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, in this case he seems like he’s honestly assessing himself. Because there’s always going to be an excuse. The guy was quicker than me, I didn’t train hard. It’s when they try and blame someone from their corner or the ref or something that stinks.

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by Dooda on Dec 17, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Not going to watch this because it will depress me, but that sucks.

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by DirtyML on Dec 17, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

Jesus. Just fuckin hang em up Jens, I can't stands no mo.

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by Shotokanman on Dec 17, 2011 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

For some reason I don’t care that Jens is still fighting and getting KO’d every so often. Not sure why, I think he still has it to compete, not at the highest level, but he can still compete with certain fighters, and if he really enjoys this, than let him do what he wants to do. He doesn’t have to somehow conform his life to how we want his career to end. It’s not like he walked in there and got brutalized from the get-go. He got KO’d. It happens all the time.

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by Dooda on Dec 17, 2011 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

at least he’s makin paper

by dana_whitebelt on Dec 17, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

the little eagle

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