Forrest Griffin's Jokes About Rape Demand UFC Action
by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST
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PrintThe UFC's Forrest Griffin recently won a Twitter bonus from the promotion for having the "Most Creative" tweets. The system of embracing the popular social media outlet and providing bonuses has always been a risky one. Fighters have had no shortage of embarrassing moments on Twitter.
Griffin hit a new low today when he made the following "joke":
@ForrestGriffin
Forrest Griffin Rape is the new missionary
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There is absolutely nothing funny about rape. And it's probably worth noting that this couldn't have come at a worse time. He actually made the same joke two hours earlier and then repeated it.
With a new audience and more attention than possibly ever before being focused on the UFC, just days before the promotion's debut on Fox, one of its most marketable stars is publicly joking about rape. This is also occurring during a time when sex crimes are front and center on the sports landscape with the Penn State University molestation story (a situation Forrest also felt it okay to use to insult someone).
If that wasn't enough, Griffin took to insulting fans who told him it was inappropriate. Such as in this exchange:
@ForrestGriffin
Forrest Griffin "@TinaMarieTXs: Yeah just unfollowed @ForrestGriffin bc he said rape is the new missionary, inappropriate"keep it to yourself nobody cares
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He then informed everyone that "following him is a privilege."
It wasn't until a woman tweeted him that she had been raped that he apologized. As though only because someone personally was raped was it truly okay to find the situation offensive. At that point Forrest sees that there is something wrong with joking about rape.
Rape is a life changing, and in many cased life ruining, thing. Dana White and the UFC can hide behind statements like the following for only so long:
Everybody makes mistakes and everybody does things that are wrong sometimes. ... We do the best we can do. How do you really think that we could possibly police 375 fighters and try to control everything they say?
Yes, if you're going to reward them for the things they say, you can also hold them accountable for the same.
If you want to play like you're on the level of the big boys like the NFL, you can do the same as they do. They manage to "police" many more than 375 people.
And don't feed me nonsense about how that would "ruin" the sport because of some sort of reduction in the individuality of fighters. If you need your fighters to be able to make jokes about homosexuals and rape to enjoy the sport, there's probably something wrong with you.
Forrest Griffin was rewarded for his use of Twitter, and now he should be punished for it.
NOTE: Fun's fun, but it's time to move along. Comments are closed. Nate
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Considering that Forrest is one of the UFC's
most recognizable faces. This is not good for a UFC on Fox right around the corner.
It will probably just get picked up by Perez Hilton, a little issue will be made of it, then it will be forgotten in a week. Not saying that is right or wrong, but it is likely that this will happen.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
The only reason the NFl polices commentS
Is that media shit stirrers jump on it for a story. Brookhouse is making his own story. It’s very convenient. If we just ignored this shit and let fighters be human beings then Forest Griffin can make all the bad jokes he wants and no one would give a shit.
I know you want your sport to “look professional” but other sports leagues don’t have to sell personalities to get people in the door. You start policing what fighters say and pretty soon every single tweet will be, “Training hard! Looking forward to a fair fight with my very respectable opponent”
by Steadiest Pink on Nov 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
So you’re saying no mainstream media outlets follow Forrest’s account or would hear about it through the grapevine, and subsequently write a negative article about it, had it not been for Bloody Elbow covering it? Huh.
I know you want your sport to "look professional" but other sports leagues don’t have to sell personalities to get people in the door. You start policing what fighters say and pretty soon every single tweet will be, "Training hard! Looking forward to a fair fight with my very respectable opponent"
There’s so much wrong with this part that I don’t even really know where to begin.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It was just wishful thinking
That ALL the media could just ignore what people say just because they are famous. It’s the snake eating itself. The story only exists because the media drums up controversy in the first place. People make horrible misogynistic and racist tweets all the time and no one cares are tries to read anything into them other than, “the person who said this is a dipshit”. It’s not a statement on the industry. It doesn’t say anything about MMA. It’s just one man’s bad joke.
As for the second part, like it or not personality sells fights. If a speech code like the NFL’s were implemented a lot of the trash talk you see would earn guys fines.
by Steadiest Pink on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
The “other sports leagues don’t have to sell personalities” threw me off, seeing as how after the huge brawl in Detroit during the NBA game, they implemented a dress code, became more active with the NBA Cares program, et cetera. It was as if they were making the players out to be better people than they were… Hmm…
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 9, 2011 3:42 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
/zakkree'd
:p - orcus
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Exactly
The NBA made all the players dress nice and hold to the same polite standard to unsell their personalities, to make them as bland as possible so they wouldn’t offend white people.
by Steadiest Pink on Nov 9, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
The uncomfortable truth is that the NBA didn’t want the aesthetic of the black culture at the time. Was that the entire reason the NBA instituted a dress code? No. But you can certainly bet it was a factor.
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Turning a blind eye to flagrantly stupid shit like this isn't the answer.
I like Forrest, but this was just bush league.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So there’s no room for personality between jokes about rape and completely bland PR tweets? Wow
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Obviously that was hyperbole and a slippery slope argument.
I just think that any attempt to control what the fighters say is going to end in an inconsistently applied policy that makes guys, many of whom make very little money, scared to open their mouths.
It’s especially problematic when you remember that any such policy would be applied behind closed doors unilaterally by the UFC. There’s no oversight. There’s no players association to negotiate fines. There might even be no appeal process.
Of course, my priorities are different since I don’t suffer physical pain when I hear bad jokes. I hope one day that science cures you and the rest of the world of this horrific genetic disorder.
by Steadiest Pink on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
So it is okay?
Doesn’t freedom of speech go both ways? Why is it PC to get offended when someone, namely Griffin, says something; but it isn’t PC when someone gets offended b/c you get offended someone got offended?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
lolz
You can tell alot about a person just by reading their sig.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Nov 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Freedom of speech is no government interference
I’m also fairly certain it was originally introduced along with freedom of the press to report on government politics without repercussion. Maybe because it used to be “Speak ill of the King, we’ll kill ya!”
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by KJ Gould on Nov 9, 2011 6:02 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You are exactly right
Freedom of Speech means the government can’t persecute for your opinions. it does NOT mean you are free from any consequences of the dumb shit you happen to say.
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by Chris Hall on Nov 9, 2011 6:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So what's making light of rape got to do with selling a fight?
I’ll save you an answer: nothing.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 9, 2011 5:59 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Griffin makes jokes on twitter so people follow him and are more interested in his next fight.
So, something. Wasn’t even my point.
by Steadiest Pink on Nov 9, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
Timing is bad… but he is a cage fighter. I’m certainly not pro-rape, but in the context of a joke not directed at anyone, is it really that bad?
Did Maggie Hendricks ghost write this :)? (Note: that was a joke.)
fine him, move on
everything Forrest says is offensive. thats why I follow him.
Tonight....
you.
Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
I only know words like good...and dog...
…and rape.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
my fav ep
Hey Carl, it’s Frylock. Look I sent Handbanana to the pound okay? I figured hell, if he is raping you, then he is a bad dog.
Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
You know, you and I...i ah, think we got a connection here.
I’m gonna rape you.
HANDBANANA NO!
(also my fav. ep)
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Your name, is the Enforcer
I want my name to be spaghetti…
…alright it’s spaghetti
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by flyingkneetoface on Nov 8, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it is that bad. Think about saying child molestation is the new missionary. Is that worse cause its kids? Now do you care? Rape is horrible.
by Inspectorxr5 on Nov 8, 2011 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Obviously it is worse when it is with kids.
Let’s extrapolate that a bit… Is sex with adults bad? Is sex with kids bad?
I rest my case. You may disagree… and that’s okay, but your example is mentally challenged.
Rape isn't just sex with adults though, is it?
It’s when one sexually forces themselves on the other without consent and a complete infringement of a basic human right.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 9, 2011 6:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
PS
I’m obviously not condoning rape… but it was clearly a joke.
Are you okay with jokes about murder? I hate murder, like, big time… but I am okay with a murder joke from time to time. Is that okay to joke about?
What if someone dies, but it was a sad accident… Is that okay to joke about?
What if someone just gets sick… Is that okay to joke about?
My point is, where’s the line? It’s not the first offensive topic Forrest or any other MMA (or any other, for that matter) athlete has hit upon.
I say let’s keep punishments to actions, not twitter messages.
by Diz D on Nov 8, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fine
But people have just as much right to act indignant over the whole thing as Forrest does to make shitty jokes on his twitter page.
This isn't bad for the UFC at all
People seem to forget that fans of this sport, for the most part, enjoy watching people hit one another in the head as hard as possible, get bloody, break bones, and choke one another unconscious. The fan base, by and large, doesn’t mind a sexist joke, gay joke, racist joke, or rape joke once in a while any more than the fighters themselves.
Surprise annoucement: prize fighters are sometimes rough around the edges!
Get over it.
It's bad for the UFC
As it’s every month this topic comes up. Not rape, but controversial remarks by prominent members of the organization.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice way to generalize the entire MMA community...
…as savage discriminating bigots!
You're words, not mine
Comedians joke about rape and no one calls them savages. Back when Tyson was charged with rape, for instance, Leno and Letterman were telling jokes about it. Guess what… they’re still around. Same when Jackson was charged with raping children… jokes were (and still are) flying left and right. When comedians make race jokes and gay jokes do you call them discriminating bigots?
I said that fighers (and fans of fighting) generally have a sense of humor about these sorts of things. They beat one another up for a living, or at least enjoy watching others do it. That doesn’t mean they are savage or bad people. They simply aren’t easily offended, and they tend to have a sense of humor about life. Get over it. It’s not going to change.
Try to laugh with them once in a while and you might just enjoy your life a little more… damn…
I'm pretty sure the jokes were about Tyson
Not his rape victim(s). Similarly jokes were made about Jackson, not the children. Monsters get ridiculed so they become less scary.
Griffin makes fun of rape itself.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 9, 2011 6:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You're wrong
The jokes were about both the monsters and what the “monsters” did; otherwise they wouldn’t have made sense. And guess what, society not only got over it but laughed along half the time. Nonetheless… you people act like you’ve never laughed at these sorts of jokes. I guess it makes you feel good to think Forest is “worse” than you or something. Who knows….
This isn't about moral superiority
It’s about criticizing something that’s worthy of criticism. Brushing arguments off as lazily as you are with “Jeez, it was a joke, learn to laugh a little” is weak. That’s what 10-year-olds do when they want to squirm out of being accountable.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Nov 9, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
As long as you also think every comedian should be punished or criticized
that has ever made a joke about Michael Jackson molesting little children, then you’re not a hypocrite. But chances are, you are a hypocrite. And regardless, you still need to lighten up. There is a difference between joking about something and actively encouraging it. Obviously Forest is against rape, and Letterman/Leno are against child molestation. Laughing is one way human beings deal with terrible things. Even a 10 year old knows that.
Yes it is.
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I can really care less about rape, alot of people arent to comfortable about it, and that majority is going to be the casual fans, and on the cusp of the first UFC on Fox event just days away, possibly should just forget about it.
"I can really care less about rape"
Good work!
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I have no idea what your post says, but I’m pretty sure I don’t like it.
by Sabate on Nov 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
alot of people arent to comfortable about it
No shit.
by spectaa on Nov 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Pathetic in so many ways.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can someone translate this into english?
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Sure thing
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I rarely tweet
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by woomikee on Nov 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 21 recs
You should get banned just for this
I can really care less
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by Sugel Mendoza on Nov 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
It’s pretty pathetic how weak this country has got with the political correctness BS. Look at the Tracy Morgan thing. Sensitive weaklings. Nobody better reply with, well I was raped and I’m offended. You know he didn’t mean anything by it so get off of that crap. We shouldn’t have to censor people. Free speech my ass.
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by Hank_Mardukas on Nov 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST reply actions 14 recs
You have no idea what "free speech" means.
Congratulations, you’re an idiot.
by Sabate on Nov 8, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 27 recs
“freedom of speech”
noun
the right of people to express their opinions publicly without governmental interference, subject to the laws against libel, incitement to violence or rebellion, etc.
Also called free speech.
Why was Mike Fagan fired?
I did not call for governmental interference. Hence, not a free speech issue.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 18 recs
I don’t have an issue with what Forrest wrote, but I agree this is not a freedom of speech issue, as Brent is not calling for government censorship.
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Yeah, to some people, they think free speech means they can say whatever they want whenever they want without any repercussions. They should go tell the president they want to kill them then. Or that there’s a bomb on the plane they’re boarding. And that’s only pointing out the exceptions with government influence, not all the other times in life where free speech doesn’t exist.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What Hank_Mardukas said is true. Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword: if you subscribe to the idea of freedom of speech, you have to allow people to say things that may offend you, you don’t get to pick and choose what can and cannot be said. However, people also need to be aware that there are consequences to saying certain things, and the unwritten social rules change based on how high-profile of a figure you are. To look at freedom of speech as a justification to say whatever you want and expect no one to take exception is to be woefully disconnected from society.
Why was Mike Fagan fired?
That's not what he said, and you also are an idiot.
Forrest already voiced the “joke.” He’s was not and will not be arrested. He has freedom of speech.
I, and Brent, have the freedom of speech to say that he face consequences in his job as a public figure. Nowhere in this whole scenario does the remote possibility of Forrest’s free speech rights enter into the conversation.
I teach for a living. If I go into a classroom and start making “jokes” about, say, victims of terrorist acts, I will face severe consequences at my job. People can be held accountable for saying stupid shit publicly. As long as the government is not imprisoning them or preventing them from speaking, their free speech rights are in tact.
You should have learned this in 5th grade social studies, but I’m telling you now. Know it, idiot.
by Sabate on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I was really tempted to go meta on this...
…and use incredibly poor spelling and grammar to accuse you of violating my free speech rights. But, honestly, it wouldn’t have been funny enough to risk it. FYI Forrest.
OK
From now on, we will refer to posters like Hank_Mardukas and Machiel Van as “pulling a Kid Nate”
“did you see Hank_Mardukas’ post? He totally pulled a Kid Nate. Dude should have just pressed "cancel""
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we’re calling you “banned.”
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by Kid Nate on Nov 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
!
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
He probably just steals them from Deo.
I would.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that man has seen some horrible things on the internet on gif hunts
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
yeah I feel you
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by OwMyArm on Nov 8, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This seems oddly familiar.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
yes, weird
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
I was trying to compliment your gif with one of my own
I just wanna be one of the cool kids, dammit!
Let's get naked and see who's stronger.
scroll down a bit
haha but great minds and all that sir….great minds
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I actually saw a longer clip with more of this on one of those tacky “Worlds craziest videos” type of TV shows, don’t remember exactly which one. Either way it’s a festival in Mexico (or somewhere like that) where they attach dynamite to sledgehammers and pound ’em to the ground to make it explode. Really, really, fucking stupid and dangerous. But it was pretty funny to watch I guess.
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Thinking back at it and re-watching the gif, I think they probably put the explosives on the ground, and hit it with the sledgehammer. The guy in this gif took a little more explosives than most people and likely paid for it.
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
What's dangling between his legs?
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That's what she said!
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WOOOOH!
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
I know this probably won’t mean much, but I really appreciated sklart’s bjj journey entries in the fan post section. He broke rule 4, and your ban is justified, but I personally hope you reconsider and give him some lee way.
Please!
he'll have to ask nice
long time contributors get a lot of leeway.
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by Kid Nate on Nov 8, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
cough cough subo cough
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Subo gets unbanned
Because everyone enjoys banning him so much. They don’t want to take away their own fun.
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Nov 8, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He said contributors.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 9, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Oh, good point.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Wade, your posts are gold.
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by T.C. Engel on Nov 9, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
every single time they are.
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
by slapjaw ackrite on Nov 9, 2011 6:59 AM EST up reply actions
oh man
sklart I’m actually mad at you for getting yourself banned…
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e-mail Nate, Sklart
I find your posts too much fun to read to let your Rule #4 violation to stop them
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This shit has escalated quickly.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
so you want him to be fired?
I hate people that act like their shit dont stink. No one is perfect including you. dont act like you have never said or did something that if the parents of the kids you teach knew, they wouldnt be appalled. maybe you drank more than you should of and drove, maybe you told that one chick you loved her just to hook up. what about that off color joke you told one of your best friends, or the negative comment you make about that one student you hate. In my books, everyone is an asshole, some just hide it better than others.
funny
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by Kid Nate on Nov 8, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Rule #4
Don’t fuck with it
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Nov 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is entertaining to watch.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
im almost out of banhammer gifs
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don't believe you
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
you probably shouldnt but i am totally serial
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
You're a poor Deo substitute
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
who wouldnt be?
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Good Point
Deo stands alone as the GifGod
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Can we do this more often?
Banned for bad grammar.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
i'm afraid we'd end up all alone
and i’d be banned for run on sentences and misusing “its” and “it’s”
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hmm...i like..as in Broke-Back Batman
has a nice ring to it if you pronounce it correctly (long a)!!
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“I was BANED”
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by Sugel Mendoza on Nov 9, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
although I'm a lowly lurker,
I have missed you Nate. No one bans with your type of style.
Oh, and the Judo Chops were your shit, its not the same now somehow. Visit more often. Your real family would like it.
You know I’m gonna be like you
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
by slapjaw ackrite on Nov 9, 2011 7:04 AM EST up reply actions
its and it's isn't as bad as
should of. could of. or could care less.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
could care less
has become an acceptable idiom and often literally works. sometimes I say “I could care less” about something I don’t care about because I could care less, I could also care more.
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I've always felt this way
I couldn’t care less about caring less, though.
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by Blackout612 on Nov 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I hate the it's/its rule.
Every other (pro)noun uses ’s for both its possessive and plural. What makes “it” so special?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
my sentiments exactly about my B.A. in English
texting is the new ‘shorthand’
by Tatsu Maki Sen Puu Kyaku on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Holy What?
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That’s not true but I don’t think enough people like King of the Hill as much as I do in order for me to make the proper Peggy Hill joke.
Used to watch it all the time
But haven’t seen it in years
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I love king of the hill.
very underrated show.
Damn it bobby.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
There is nothing more annoying to me than people on Facebook or wherever who stick to that asinine rule from like 5th grade of not using contractions in writing.
“I could not believe when I read that. He should not have done that and I do not know what he was thinking. I will never allow someone to do that in my house”
But I do get the KotH reference.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Formal writing, contractions are usually frowned upon.
Anything less, use them, by all means.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Right. I hate conversational writing which avoids contractions. It makes you seem like a real asshole.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
It's a habit I had to learn to break.
Brought up on Chicago/Terabian style writing in high school. Fuck that.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
There’s also a certain finesse which can be used that makes it less obnoxious. It’s just that most people lack it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
This is exactly what I was about to say
I deal with a lot of corporate types who come off as tragically contrived. Tito Ortiz-esque.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
"tragically contrived"
Well put, sir. Tito is uncool on many levels, and one of them is that he is trying too hard to don the accoutrements of “cool” as seen in the Huntington Beach scene (stripper mom, chain-wallet dad). Posing.
I now have a signature statement. Behold!
Some people can spell properly and still write for shit?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Have you read McCarthy’s books?
Blood Meridian is a titan in American literature.
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InStrength dot com.
I was about to say. Blood Meridian is pretty fucking outstanding.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 9, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
One of my all-time favorites. That man knows how to capture the local dialect in written form.
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by Brian Hemminger on Nov 9, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Is it acceptable when it’s for a college essay that has to fit to so many pages? I mean they already make requisite margins, fonts, and font sizes for them. Give a guy a break.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
It’s = it is —> related to something in the state of being.
its —> related to something belonging to some entity.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
He/his, She/her, They/their
all without an apostrophe in sight.
And I didn’t even bring up you/your, I/my, we/our!
I'd blame Kid Nate for that
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start passing these out
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I still have never figured out when the proper use of "whom" is.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's a made up word
Creed Bratton
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by Chris Hall on Nov 8, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thaaats what he said. "Its a made up word to trick college students"
Thats what i was trying to say, but more retardedly
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
As a direct object.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
i figured it out and it's great.
Who did something to whom?
Who = subjective
whom = objective
ie who is the subject of a sentence, whom is the object of a sentence.
as in Who hit whom in the face.
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who = subject, whom = object
You’re welcome.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
It's when it gets applied into real life situations that I get confused.
And I think it’s because it’s became commonly accepted in dialogue to completely disregard “whom”.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Libel=Slander, Slander=Libel?
don’t know if it applies but Forrest is doing both to himself
by Tatsu Maki Sen Puu Kyaku on Nov 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Finally something useful comes out of reading this thread
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 9, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Easiest way
is to remember that it exactly tracks the use of he/him or she/her.
Banned for writing "should of" ?
YES! Make that shit mandatory from now on!
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I am going to ban so many people.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you always?
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Kinda.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Also there's been a recent resurgence of the sarcasm font
I blame your lack of vigilance…..and Kid Nate.
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Where? Show me where.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sabate is right
The number of times people incorrectly claim the violation of free speech is becoming comical. Griffin is free to make an ass out of himself, but he’s not free to be immune from the consequences, professional and otherwise.
by SteamboatWillie on Nov 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Forrest Griffin's not a professional comedian
He’s a professional sportsman.
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Yea, he kind of is
That’s the entire premise of his books.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He's a part-time author
If he wants to be a comedian so much, quit the fight game.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's just silly
There is no reason he can’t do both. He’s a very successfully comedic author and fighter and there is no reasonable reason why he shouldn’t be allowed to do both. What an insane suggestion.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've got to say
I used to be a big Forrest Griffin fan, but this whole dark, bitter-because-he’s-famous-and-has-to-deal-with-people attitude really puts me off. He used to be a joker with an unbreakable fighting spirit; now he seems old, bitter, and has no drive to keep fighting. He’s just riding out the rest of his career trying to make more money, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but the Forrest that I used to root for is gone. Why he made this “joke” I’ll never know. What was the point, to get his name in the media? Mission accomplished I guess.
Why was Mike Fagan fired?
Not 100% with you on this
but I am working my way that direction.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My sentiments
Exactly
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by cmons on Nov 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree. I’m not really a fan of his anymore. He has his funny moments, but he comes across as very bitter sometimes.
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 6:41 AM EST up reply actions
Surely you have to realise how ridiculous your statement is.
You’re the BE Grappling Editor and nothing else?
by originaldude on Nov 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This isn't my profession.
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You aren’t making any sense. Do you have a problem with every comedian that makes a movie? because they’re just comedians after all, they aren’t allowed to be actors by your standards
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The original comment made no sense
Comparing Forrest Griffin to Tracy Morgan. Even if some choose to dismiss Morgan because he’s seen as a comedian, Griffin isn’t seen as one.
If he or other people don’t think he should be held to a standard of professionalism as a widely recognised pro sportsman who works for the top organisation in his field because he wants to be ‘funny’, maybe he needs to make a career choice.
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No
he is allowed to do and be both. That’s how this works.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
no
he’s heading down a road of being an unfunny unemployed comedian and not the face of a sporting organization on the verge of mainstream popularity.
Think he can go on Good Morning America or Oprah and get a nice round of applause after this?
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by Kid Nate on Nov 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Honestly
I don’t watch those shows so I have no idea what kind of people they have as guests. Would they have Dave Chapelle?
His potential unemployment would be a result of losing fights, not telling jokes. In fact, if he keeps losing fights he probably needs to tell me jokes and write another book.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Is Oprah still on TV?
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
She OWNs TV.
See what I did there?
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
...
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
So if you want to be the BE Grappling Editor, quit your profession, come back to us and only then you can appropriately call yourself the BE Grappling Editor.
I mean, the logic behind that is absolutely absurd right?
Who said I quit my profession?
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He's telling you to quit.
So you wouldn’t have already done so.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'd only have to quit my profession if for some reason
Writing here exposed a deep character flaw that would make me an embarrassment to my profession. Since that isn’t the case, my situation isn’t comparable with Griffin’s.
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I don't care about the argument anyways.
I was just trying to mediate.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
has he made money on a book that was comedic?
why yes he has. that would make him a comedian. he profited off of a satircal book. thats the definition of a comedian.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from people getting offended by what you say.
I’m not saying he can’t say it, but that he shouldn’t say it. Difference.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Freedom of speech
is not freedom of consequence.
There is no law against what Forrest did, but no Freedoms are infringed by calling a stupid comment stupid.
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Free speech my ass.
He does have the right of free speech to write stupid things on Twitter and I have the right to believe he is an ignorant, redneck douche for making the joke and then doubling down on it in further posts.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
It's not a matter of political correctness
It’s a matter of “Rape is the new Missionary” is a FUCKING STUPID thing to say. Incredibly fucking stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, that's just dumb right there
I’m all for Forrest doing his “look how smart I am by acting this crazy” schtick, but this is just in awful, awful taste. Sad to see a genuinely clever guys stoop to this level of baseness.
While I do not think in any way, shape or form that Forrest is condoning sexual assault, I do feel that this is unacceptable, and the UFC cannot allow itself to be seen as underwriting what, at the end, is essentually hateful speech.
by PackMMA on Nov 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Um...really?
There is nothing funny about rape, the act should not be taken lightly
But come on, Forrest was making a joke. I’ve seen loads of comedians make jokes about rape and plenty of other things.
Forrest was making a joke…some people have vastly different senses of humor.
This is a non-issue. Come the f’ck on…I mean sure, his joke wasn’t that funny, not really funny at all…but it was joke…and I would sure as hell laugh at it before I were offended by it.
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by Chris Groves on Nov 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
Can’t be any worse than people who love Tyler the Creator.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
OFWGKTA!
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by Thats It For you! on Nov 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Basically agree
was it in poor taste? Without a doubt.
Was it funny? Not really.
Should he have said it? Probably not.
Is this article a massive over-reaction? Absolutely!
by jhf884 on Nov 8, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
Are you accusing BE of sensationalist journalism?
Why was Mike Fagan fired?
by Machiel Van on Nov 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
.
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
DUDE
You must have had a backload of these ready to launch. Haha
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
He does
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Dana will never
“punish” Forrest. He as much as said so when talking about his ultimate fighter win.
My brother jumped in front of a bus, you’re not going to see me demanding punishment for any suicide jokes anytime soon. Was it tasteless? yeah. But this is way too sensitive and “demanding” punishment is ridiculous.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Nov 8, 2011 6:27 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
unfollow forrest. Problem solved.
"UFC is so gay, pride is awesome!"
by Hendo_One-Shot on Nov 8, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
This is a great point. Forrest shouldn’t have said following him on Twitter was a privilege, he should’ve said it was a choice. No one is forcing you to read fighters’ tweets.
Why was Mike Fagan fired?
No one is forcing you to wake up to a rape joke on twitter when you are following a fucking mma fighter
if it was Louis CK or something than maybe no one should be shocked but it is Forrest.
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
if you listed to his interviews or, especially read his books, you wouldn’t be shocked either. The dude wrote a chapter about slicing Fenris’ taint.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I have read his last book kinda
but Twitter is the bane of our existence. The epitome of this me me me stupid ass world we live in where people only give a fuck about themselves so much that they really think society needs to know they just went to jamba juice
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
ps i fuckin love jamba juice
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
It’s kind of useful for following journalists like Ariel Helwani for example. In other words, a glorified RSS feed.
Real journalists dont get in petty Twitter spats, in my eyes
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by bcpjkell on Nov 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST reply actions 25 recs
I completely agree with this
I have found many jokes about rape hilarious but the problem is the venue in which in he chose to make the joke. You have to recognize the context in which your joke is going to land. I DO make rape jokes when it’s me and friends watching the tv. I DON’T make rape jokes at my girlfriend’s family dinner. Putting this out on twitter is just monumentally stupid.
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Forrest shouldn't be punished at all.
If you disagree then you’re part of the real problem… that being how weak and sensitive our nation has become. It’s not like he said anything bad. mentioning the word rape isn’t God awful. lol It’s the intent and clearly he was joking. If people get that upset over it then stay off the internet and perhaps away from people in general cause you’re feeling must always get hurt.
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by Hank_Mardukas on Nov 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
According to many companies EEO policy it is all about the impact and not necessarily the intent.
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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This sounds like a great way to excuse many other crappy and offensive language.
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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
OMG
“WANTING RESPECT FOR VICTIMS OF RAPE HAS CAUSED THE GREAT RECESSION AND A DECLINE IN THE QUALITY OF OUR NATION’S PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!!”
this is why our nation has weakened??? now who’s overreacting?
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Nov 8, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah I agree.
I don’t know how he can be punished. I definitely don’t see Dana White punishing Griffin.
I recall when he told Bisping “Trust me, they don’t get it” when Bisping made his fag comment.
With that said, I just don’t see what’s funny. Why would he go there?
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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I’m totally confused as to where this came from. Was there a comment that prompted it? Anybody?
Why was Mike Fagan fired?
he's replying to the article
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's funny!
How can people not realize something so ridiculous is clearly a joke. And if they can realize this, how can they seriously get offended at the joke?
I say grow up to the people who think policing other people’s words will help change the world for the better, and another grow up to the people who let themselves get affected negatively by the words of others. Be an adult. There are tougher things in life than funny jokes.
by Pooki on Nov 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think it's funny that people don't understand that Griffin's comment being a joke doesn't make it okay.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't know
Forrest is a funny guy, at least to a lot of people. He uses his twitter, books etc. as an extension of being is usual goofy and inappropriate self. Many comedians, especially the most successful funnymen, joke about very taboo and issues that are uncomfortable for a large segment of people. Sure people will get offended, some will laugh, and that’s kind of the point.
I’m not really sure that this should be such a big deal.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. How is this any different than what Daniel Tosh says?
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz
daniel tosh doesn’t represent a nation sports orginization. he’s a comedian. we should expect it from him. but when another guy does it, its not funny….
if i was like these other people lacking a sense of humor that^ is what i would say. Forrest can make whatever jokes he wants.
"I will beat you into a living death" – Ken Shamrock
There is not much of a difference. Both Forrest and Tosh are equally unfunny
by Krauser II on Nov 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can understand the people who don't like his show...
But I thought his Completely Serious stand-up show before he was really famous was hilarious. Obviously tons of others did because his popularity skyrocketed afterwards.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
One of the things of being an American, is that Forrest Griffin, as always, has the right to be the biggest asshole in the world.
by Rich Hansen on Nov 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
People need to lighten up
There is humor in everything. Even rape, sorry. Is rape terrible and a disgraceful act? yes. Does that mean you can’t joke about it? no. The harrasment of gay people is terrible also, but we make jokes about that right? The hundreds of years of slavery were atrocious….we can still make black jokes. The holocaust happened, but we can still make Jew jokes. Columbine happened, VT happened, but i bet you people still make the joke about the kid who looks like he’s going to shoot the school up.
Point being, America has to stop being such pusscakes.
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by mpk46 on Nov 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Go ahead on wander on down to the inner city
And make a few “black jokes” and “slavery jokes”.
Also, make sure you record the incident with a video camera. Let me know how that works out for you.
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by Dallas Winston on Nov 8, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
and have someone post the video for you.
Because you’ll be hospitalized.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I have a black joke for that...
But this isn’t the right forum for that.
SEE FORREST? HOW FUCKING HARD WAS THAT?
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Well played sir
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I don’t have to wander anywhere, i live in inner city of philadelphia. I make black jokes to my black friends all the time, and they’re very raw jokes, but my friends laugh, because they know me and know that i’m joking.
Forrest’s twitter followers know him and know that he is joking.
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"Black friends" finally make an appearance.
by Sabate on Nov 8, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
just waiting for Hitler to show up then it will be complete
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
if you scroll down, we've already discussed Stalin, Kony, Lubanga, etc.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
oh crap
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
thats a perfect analogy with no flaws whotsoever.
A complete parallel. You and your buddies vs twitter.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, it was a crappy analogy. i was too busy responding on the whole “wander down into the inner city” thing, because of how silly i found it.
to try to word everything i wanted to say. Forrest has built a persona, and his image is of a ridiculous jokester with no real limits to his jokes. People shouldn’t be surprised that he makes a joke like this(i’m not denying it as being a stupid move PR wise, etc.) its unfortunate that people get so upset over these things.
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My best friends have been raped!
So I can make fun of rape victims.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he's making fun of missionaries
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and boring sex
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
For crying out loud, if you don’t like what he has to say don’t listen to him. There is no need to punish anyone except maybe brent brookhouse… for trying to get Forest punished. Unfollow him if you don’t like what he writes.
Guess what? From time to time these guys that punch eachother in the head as hard as they can for a living are going to make inappropriate jokes and comments. I know, I know… who’da thought?
Kot ... meet pettle
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by Dallas Winston on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
For crying out loud, if you don’t like what [posters on BE] have to say don’t listen to [them].
There is no need to punish anyone except maybe [levmarcinko]… for trying to get [Brent Brookhouse] punished. [Ban] him if you don’t like what he [posts].
Guess what? From time to time these guys that [work low-paying, boring, jobs] for a living are going to make [logically consistent and reasonable] comments. I know, I know… who’da thought?
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Nov 9, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Forrest, Forrest, Forrest. Some one post a face palm for me.
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by pridedaze09 on Nov 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That was right before the greatest performance of the producers the world has ever seen. Jerry missed out.
by AusEagle on Nov 8, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Millions of people joke about 'raping' their opponents in online video games
Looks like every is just unacceptable and needs to clean up their act as a whole.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We put celebrities on some pedistool for no reason. They have to struggle to conform to the RIDICULOUS and ever-changing standards that society sets for them.
Why every celebrity needs to be a perfect christian(not in the believing in a god sense, more in the conservative morals etc.) is an unfortunate product of an ignorant society. and yes, i just called the people getting mad about this ignorant. they’re ignoring the obvious joke and instead decide to get upset about everything.
Our entire society has been brainwashed into loving drama, and creating drama out of nothing(this was done of course by the media to keep people interested so they can make more profit). Example, look at any of Snowdens old articles. the titles were always exagerations on the actual content, and it kept people reading. Forrest makes a shock value joke, emphasis on JOKE, and everybody flips.
We as a society need to step back, take a look, and say wow, let’s all calm down and laugh for once.
SERIUZ AMERICA IS SERIUZ
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by mpk46 on Nov 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pedistool
Best. Misspelling. Ever.
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by wonderfulspam on Nov 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
it is like the pedi egg but way poopier
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
The first time I saw one of those I was appalled.
It’s like a cheese grater for foot shavings.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
i have one and it is totally awesome
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Seeing a chick use it isn't exactly an aphrodisiac.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
different strokes...
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
In a thread full of random quips
This was my fave for some reason.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 9, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
“We as a society need to step back, take a look, and say wow, let’s all calm down and laugh for once.”
I think we can relax and laugh without stupid rape jokes.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A) Millions of people are idiots
B) The point is that he’s a public figure that represents a company attempting to break into the main stream.
"You should work for 15 minutes to knock your opponent out, submit him, or improve your position to give yourself the best chance of doing either." - Dan Hardy
The point is....
Whether or not you give a shit about this statement or not. It was fucking stupid to do it and the timing was horrible. Forrest knew exactly what the reaction would be.
If the timing is horrible on a rape joke, are you saying there is NEVER a right time to make a rape joke?
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I’m saying that Forrest knew this would cause a fuckin huge debate over whether it was right or wrong. Personally, it’s a joke I get it but obviously he knew what would happen. Therefore, before the first UFC on national tv…prolly not the brighest idea.
It was an offhand joke
Like dozens he posts on a consistant basis. He knew it would cause a huge debate? What huge debate exactly? 50 people on BE? You’re living in a bubble. Google Forrest and you’ll see two things, Brook’s article and something from the bleacherreport. If Brent never writes this article, you and everyone else in here doesn’t give his tweet more then 20 seconds of thought.
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by Genki Sudo's Choreographer on Nov 9, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Note to anybody with self respect
Avoid any MMA comment section about misogyny, homophobia, or rape.
Read: Toblerone Jones
by Neil Manich on Nov 8, 2011 6:34 PM EST reply actions 18 recs
I threw out any morals when I realized the rest of the world doesn’t have any either. Oh well. I’ll just continue my asshole sociopath behavior without your internet respects.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Subject line
Be careful, my opponents - Junior "Cigano" dos Santos
by Henrique on Nov 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I will use my badassery to fight you off of your noble steed.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I run a sanctuary for rare and endangered hornless unicorns.
by Pyrgz Krum on Nov 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I lol’ed.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, just simply stating I don’t really see why people care so much about it. Poor choice of word selection. My bad. An internet brohug is due.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
See, you really accepted that brohug. I am brohugging you through this screen right now, especially because you posted cats. Beef is squashed! And not in the Rampage way.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Brohug accepted. Beef squashed.
Stay away from the internet sociopathy though. That gets you put in jail.
You’re the second person to tell me that, except a lot more kindly. That Chris Hansen fella wasn’t too kind about it though.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I got your bro hug right here!
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by T.P. Grant on Nov 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Ah, remember the days when we all fought about this instead?
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
simpler times
simpler times
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Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
~ Napoleon Bonaparte
To have a Cannae you must have a Varo
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But you do the history of jiu-jitsu. Wouldn’t you just snap my arm instead?
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
sure why not!?
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
lol
awesome
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Alright, now let's get it settled.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
gonna be honest
I looked hard for a gif of Palhares hugging Galvao at ADCCs, I know want that gif so badly.
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I though Grappo had it
On the gif-filled page he had of the event
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Wow, that dude definitely wants him some Fedor. Nothing like coming on strong.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
that dude is JCVD
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, wow. That's embarrassing.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Or you are really young... =)
Reread my post and realized i sounded like an asshole.. Felt i needed to add a smiley face…
I'm 23, so I suppose it's relative.
Although I’ve seen Dr. Strangelove, Citizen Kane, A Clockwork Orange and other classic cinematic legends.
Kung Fu movies just don’t do it for me. I’m still trying to figure out why I love MMA when I think adults fighting is stupid.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I cant say that his movies were exactly epic cinematic masterpieces in any way. But in the 90’s it felt like at least every other week there was a JCVD movie on at some point … Couldnt help runnin into one and watching when bored. I have seen a lot of his movies for the same reasons I have seen to many eps. of Oprah =) nuthin else was on at the same time…
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha, I’ve seen every TUF episode and don’t remember this at all. Herb’s smile is infectious.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
An Open Letter to Jesus
Dear Jesus,
Why are people so stupid?
Cheers,
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by Sabate on Nov 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Besides the fact that rape isn't funny
It’s the fact that the UFC is now 5 days from their network television debut and with their social media push, they’ve actually rewarded Griffin for his tweets. They can’t have their fighters making rape jokes (or any kind of inappropriate joke) now that they’re playing with big time sponsors and big time networks.
by Matthew Roth on Nov 8, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
I can agree with that. Not with everything else.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Nov 8, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
While you may be right
I’m not sure a Forrest Griffin tweet is really going to have that kind of impact.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Anybody following him at this point...
is a UFC fan and planning on watching the event. they surely aren’t going to see his tweet and refuse to watch a fight that he isn’t even in
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I don't know, man
I’m sure plenty of those people will think it’s funny. A good portion will likely not even see it. I see celebrities say really insane shit on there and it never seems to have a very negative impact.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I don't know
and I’m trying to noodle that over currently. It could be that I truly don’t understand/appreciate the impact of twitter on the media. I suppose time will tell if Forrest takes a lot of heat from this or not.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Twitter is fucking retarded.
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I'm with you
I try to use it and, as it is clear in this post, I just don’t seem to get it.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
You clearly haven’t gotten enough followers to boost your ego yet.
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he should start making "super hilarious" "jokes" on there. Pull a Gilbert Gottfried or something
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
It's actually pretty useful for breaking news.
I don’t get the whole “Social networkings is evil!” mentality people have.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
That’s just because we’re way cooler and less conformist than you are.
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Brother?
Learn JiuJitsu.
Don't believe the hyperbole, it's like a murder spree, get sniped verbally.
Brett Ratner sucks.
Whoa. Wonder how many potential viewers are going to tune out now?
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 8:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This. People will say it is Forrest being Forrest and he apologized for it. All signs point to a non-issue. I don’t agree with you often, Barton, but glad we can both wrap our heads around it.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I can agree with his employer having a huge problem with this.
But otherwise, people are free to simply hate Forrest, unfollow, yell at him, and not buy his PPV. As for me, it didn’t affect my opinion of him, as I like really offensive humor, and don’t consider this to have any relationship to the despicable crime itself. It is however, fairly ludicrous for somone who makes their living off people’s opinion of them as a fighter and a person, to not consider that jokes like this on twitter are a pretty stupid idea. Save it for your email contact list Forrest.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
hmm..
if you couldn’t get by making inappropriate jokes and having big time sponsors.. south park would’ve been off the air a long time ago.
difference being
south park is genuinely insightful
'if you don't have humility as a fighter, fighting will bring humility to you...'
Probably won't bother reading too many of the comments on this
But I have to say thanks to Brent for continually fighting the good fight when stuff like this comes up. You’re a champ.
by woooburn on Nov 8, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Awww jeah get some PAGEVIEWS
Open the faucet! Psshshhhyeahhhh
by Pyrgz Krum on Nov 8, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Also, rape jokes without any wit or cleverness or setup are dumb as heck. Gotta have a good setup.
by Pyrgz Krum on Nov 8, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
forrest shouldnt be punished at all
please this is silly
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lol yeah, that was rich
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
You must have missed his open letter.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
and everything else he ever did or said ever
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I dig it. I like my MMA writers to have dynamic personalities.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
If you are gonna make rape jokes with your buddies that’s one thing. But if you are one of the UFC’s most famous fighters on the week of the biggest fight in UFC history publicly making a rape joke, you are an idiot.
BTW, the most offensive part of the joke was that it wasn’t funny at all. Forrest needs some rape joke tips from Norm MacDonald.
by Jeffrey McCrum on Nov 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
exacly this
and if you’re gonna go for an extremely offensive joke, the bare minimum is that it has to be very funny
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to post, but this summed things up fairly well.
There is something to be said for making it worth the trouble. He’s possibly going to get fined, or at the very least given a stern talking to by the UFC brass for an inappropriate joke, but this wasn’t even a funny inappropriate joke.
I'm going to keep this page open
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by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 6:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
good article, but what should the punishment be?
Some real dopey comments in here, but i do wonder what kind of punishment would be appropriate here. I believe the NFL fines players, or the teams fine players, but the money made in the NFL is easier to depend on and track. Let’s say they do a monetary fine, and Forrest gets hurt and doesn’t fight for a year, i don’t think that would work. I also think defining a line with what is appropriate and what isn’t will be tough, easiest thing is for Dana or someone from the UFC to call Forrest and tell him he is a dope for writing that, and to not write like that again. Keep it out of the media if he can, but would that be sufficient or should there be a visible punishment attached? I don’t know what Dana punished Bisping with for the Jorge Santiago stuff, but maybe something along the same lines or something?
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If people really think
that this is a appropriate response for someone making a joke on twitter I have lost the plot.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
What was funny about it?
Explain to me what is funny about saying “Rape is the new missionary”?
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Look dude
just because you don’t think a joke is funny it doesn’t somehow make it not a joke.
Unless you’re now insanely suggesting that Forrest Griffin REALLY believes the rape is the new missionary…
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Saying something provocative for the sake of being provocative does not make a 'joke'
Nor does it make it funny. It’s only purpose is to draw attention. In this case it’s let people know Forrest Griffin has a character flaw, and of those people that are civilised they want accountability for such words and actions.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's his sense of humor
It’s been like that for a while. It’s a joke and it doesn’t matter if you liked the joke or not. People are and should be allowed to tell jokes without having a bunch of people being sanctimonious about it.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I can understand
why you would think a line was crossed, and punishment warranted, etc.
But, do you honestly fail to understand that it was in fact a joke?
I understand it was a fucking poor attempt at a joke
I didn’t take it at face value of literally, but then I have the benefit of knowing who Forrest Griffin is and what his intentions were. His intention may have been to be funny, but he failed spectacularly and a one liner like that is nothing but mean spirited and offensive. No joke, no humour, no irony or satire.
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I agree there
not funny at all, really. Not even a little.
Rape is never funny
I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.
by elmojo on Nov 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Ya know..
I think that’s what hell must be like..being constantly raped by dogs…now, I don’t know if I believe in a God or not..but I know he must hate me..BECAUSE HE LET YOU CREATE A DOG THAT CONSTANTLY RAPES ME!!!
Did you hit him in the bean bag? There’s no shame in attacking a criminal’s bean bag.
by RonSwanson on Nov 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
I think it was the best
Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
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Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
This comment section proves conclusively that Forrest Griffin Fans are the worst group of people in MMA.
by smoogy2 on Nov 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
I hate forrest griffin. I also hate over sensitive people. Contradictions taste good.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Nov 8, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
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by Sugel Mendoza on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Also, how many people in here would have laughed if they heard Joe Son got raped?
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It's a joke
it’s not like he actually raped somebody even though people are acting like he did.
Yeah, but it’s a matter of common sense. Would Peyton Manning or LeBron James or Sidney Crosby ever make a rape joke on Twitter? Of course not, because they aren’t stupid.
by Jeffrey McCrum on Nov 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
No, but a professional quarterback can get away with rape in Pittsburgh. I heard running backs can murder people in California, too.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
That doesn’t change my point. Professional athletes in other sports rarely say stupid stuff like this, and when they do, they have to own up to it.
by Jeffrey McCrum on Nov 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t until a woman tweeted him that she had been raped that he apologized.
Go on..
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, they REALLY have to own up to it. Make a formal public apology, get fined, donate money to charity, show actual remorse. A half-hearted apology over a Twitter message doesn’t cut it.
by Jeffrey McCrum on Nov 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Get fined?
You’re insane.
You can tell alot about a person just by reading their sig.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A fine seems completely appropriate
If they’re going to reward fighters monetarily for tweeting they can certainly punish them monetarily for the same.
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Nope, but Kobe Bryant can allegedly date rape women and get away with it
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He didn’t “get away with it” he went to court over it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Not to mention that giant ring he had to buy his wife afterwards.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
That's not punishment, that's investigation
Kobe got away with it
by Cunny on Nov 9, 2011 9:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The multi- million dollar settlement agreement he made suggests otherwise
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
and alot of people source that incident as the reason they hate Kobe
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 8, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
it's not a joke.
jokes are funny.
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by ekc on Nov 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
You must not have seen Dane Cook before.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
oh no
we have to watch that tomorrow night too
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
dude don't. that movie is fucking terrible.
Unless you’re talking about BMs. poops funny. just not in bridesmaids
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Roth forces me too
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Roth would like Bridesmaids
because he got one free in the mail and had to review it.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
fine, i'm returning the Jaco bag.
Bought it because of your review, but now I’m taking a BM in it and putting a bridesmaid DVD in it and returning it.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
oh. i get it now. BMs is not bowel movement. Its Blue Mountain State.
Is this weird now?
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
not really given the content of the show
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
BOOM!
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Bullshit
You watch BMS for the joy of seeing sparkling genitals
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Rape isn't funny.
Unless you’re raping a clown.
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by Llewdor on Nov 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
a lot of people in this thread all like "it's a joke"
so… jokes can’t be offensive and downright wrong? i’m 100% with Brent on this.
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by Jon Bois on Nov 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
They can be. This one just happens to not be overly offensive.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Nov 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Of course they can be
that’s the point of a great majority of jokes. Generally, we don’t expect the joke teller to then apologize, be fined/punished or take them to task like this, though.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yes, but sometimes we should take them to task, right?
like, when they make light of a terrible experience that is likely to occur to 10% to 20% of American women throughout their lifetimes?
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a huge difference:
cancer jokes don’t exacerbate a culture of cancer that excuses cancer growth. personally i wouldn’t make cancer jokes anyway, but hey.
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by Jon Bois on Nov 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i don't think you mean exacerbate
because rape jokes, in my opinion, don’t exacerbate any culture.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
jokes are a major component of the public discourse
and the public discourse is more powerful than almost anything when it comes to exacerbating the popularity of a given perspective.
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I don't think we should
Comedians make jokes like this all the time. When does anyone ever take them to task? If that happens, I’ll eat crow, but I don’t ever see it. We shouldn’t take them to task either, that’s their prerogative and if we don’t like the humor we don’t have to support it.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
he's not a comedian
he’s one of the UFC’s biggest stars and it’s 5 days out from the debut on Network television. This isn’t the time to explore the limits of good taste and humor.
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It was in poor taste
and bad judment.
But this is truly making a mountain out of a molehill. I could be wrong—I’m a fan, but I hardly know (or care to know) the minutiae of how media cover MMA—but this isn’t going to ruin anything at all.
let's imagine
you’re a major corporate executive at say Harley Davidson. Are you going to be thrilled that you’re sponsoring the UFC when you hear what Forrest said?
How bout you’re an exec at a company that’s never sponsored the UFC before and you just bought time on UFC on Fox 1, think you’re thrilled to tell your boss about this?
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by Kid Nate on Nov 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I can do one better.
Let’s say your a major network broadcast station that just invested in the UFC…
This is a fair point,
and thinking on the margains is important here, and maybe I am failing to do so…but what company is really gonna do that? Particularly when Forrest already apolgized—maybe in an insufficiently debasing manner for some, but did apologize.
Part of combat sports appeal will always be that they are raw, primal, and violent. That doesn’t necessarily justify Forrest, but Companies have to be aware of it. I mean, overly censoring someone like Nick Diaz or Rampage Jackson would kill a large part of their appeal.
I’m all for trying to keep fighters from being truly offensive, but I don’t think this is all that. I must admit that you do make a good point though—the marginal effect here is what the UFC should be concerned about.
Maybe I’ve just watched too much South Park to get offended by something like this …
dude
you’ve clearly never worked in corporate advertising.
let’s say you’re the exec who spent weeks convincing your conservative boss to take a chance on advertising on the UFC.
now imagine the meeting tomorrow morning when the guy who fought tooth and nail to keep their advertising money with the NFL gets a hold of this.
Choosing to advertise on a risky new sport like MMA is something companies can easily and safely avoid doing.
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Fair enough,
and yes you are right, I’ve managed to stay away from the advertising departments!
I think you are most likely right here—but the UFC punishing to cover their ass, and the joke actually being really offensive still seem like different things to me.
I remember being shocked when the NHL suspended Sean Avery over his “sloppy seconds” comments. But really, why should the NHL take any heat over stupid remarks—even if those offended really are being too uptight and sensitive?
I'm not concerned with "why" "should" and "ought"
if you start asking that kind of shit you run aground on “why isn’t life fair?” “why do innocent children suffer and die” etc etc
that shit is over my pay grade.
I’m strictly concerned with a major star of the UFC sending out a deeply offensive tweet (or a tweet that will be universally regarded as unacceptable by the US corporate media) to 173,000 fans the week before its debut on broadcast TV.
This is a serious PR issue the UFC needs to handle ASAP. They’re in the big leagues now.
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i’ve worked in corporate advertising and this can be buried easily. In most cases I can’t see something like this reaching the person who decides the fate of the companies relationship w/ the UFC.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
ah but it could
let’s say the culinary union puts it in a press release.
let’s say a 60 something year old sports writer is pissed that he has to cover this weekend’s UFC sees it.
presto. Big stink.
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i see your point
i’m just saying that i have personally seen thing brought to peoples attention that some would say are a bigger deal than this get swept away before the big sticks were either brought out or ever used.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
you never can tell
what piece of idiotic bullshit is going to catch the interest of the media and the public. It’s totally arbitrary.
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crap shoot indeed
i was often amazed at what did “get through the cracks” in my mind i didn’t get what the big deal was but i just knew someone upstairs was not f’n happy.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
this is the most salient point yet
And I wholeheartedly agree.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
At the end of the day, Forest's "Joke" changes nothing.
If you don’t like what forest said, just unfollow him. Unless he was making death threats or said something that deeply offends the Dana and the Fertitas, we will all forget about this by UFC 139. If the UFC can let Rampage get away with this:
and this:
They are obviously not going to do a damn thing about Forest’s bad joke. You guys, the media, blew up the above situations and demanded similar things before, but nothing ever happens, nothing will happen. The UFC owners are going to run their business the way they see fit and it doesn’t look like they are going to imitate the NFL and the NBA anytime soon in this area. They will get sponsorships regardless of what Forest’s says.
I won't hold my breath, Fox knew what they were getting into when the got into bed with the UFC.
CBS has a show, 2 broke girls, that featured a rape joke just last night. Do you honestly think Fox, of all networks, is going to be complain about a controversial joke made on twitter? Get real.
A joke is joke whether you find it funny or not. He may not be a comedian, but he can tell any joke he likes on his own time.
If you didn’t find it funny, then his sense of humor is not for you, so you should just UNFOLLOW him, and ignore his dumb comments.
again
this is the week of UFC’s debut on Fox.
Forrest’s joke is not considered acceptable by the modern corporate media.
This could become part of a cascading PR fiasco if they don’t address it.
It could cost the UFC and Fox a lot of sponsors.
There are women’s organizations that boycott companies that sponsor athletes that think rape is funny.
That kind of thing is toxic to advertisers.
Period.
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I don't think you get it
If FOX is going to have a problem with Forest’s comment, they wouldn’t have signed a deal with the UFC in the first place based off a prior the situations in the pics I posted. That pic of Rampage motorboating Karyn Bryant happened back in May of this year if you didn’t remember. Once again, this CHANGES NOTHING.
well
Joe Rogan stopped using the word “faggot”. He apologized to Maggie Hendricks over the “cunty” remark.
Dana White publicly endorsed the idea of a gay fighter in the UFC and said he wishes the closeted ones would come out already.
We’ll see how pissed people get over this, that will determine the reaction.
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I wonder how many closeted high-profile fighters there are.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
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by Chris Hall on Nov 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
More like how many closeted low-profile fighters there are. Imagine how hard it’d be to get a fight in a sport in a low-level promotion where homophobia is obviously rampant.
I discussed this in the thread with Dana’s remarks, there’s not been many openly homosexual athletes in any of the major sports in America.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Rogan stopped using the F-word of his own volition.
I don’t remember Dana ever punishing him for the things he’s said on his own time. Joe Rogan is far more of a representative of the UFC than the fighters are, but when he is on his off time, he’s 100% endorses smoking weed. Somehow I don’t think sponsors, or FOX are going to be cracking down anytime soon.
I don’t care one way or another if people smoke weed in the privacy of their own homes, but I don’t think it would fly if an NFL announcer was doing the same thing
Joe Rogan stopped using faggott
after THIS BLOG spent 3 days making a crusade about it. There was no coincidence. It was a direct reaction to the shit storm.
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Yep
:p - orcus
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So what? he still made his own choice to retire the word.
Dana didn’t tell him to do anything, which was point. Forest is in the same position Rogan was, so he will either apologize and not make anymore rape jokes, or he will simply ignore the controversy he’s caused and keep trucking along. Unless he said it on camera at a UFC event, no one will do anything to him.
You and none of us for that matter
Know what transpired between Dana and Joe as a result of that.
:p - orcus
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If the UFC higher ups pressured Joe Rogan to retire the word, he probably would have mentioned when he talked about it on his podcast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duUJwgBSVNU
To be honest, I don’t even think Dana knew the incident transpired, and if he did, he probably just ignored it and let the heat passover, just like the motorboat gate.
no one is saying Dana told Joe to stop using that word
We are saying, correctly that he stopped using the word because he got sick of the controversy on this blog.
And it’s a good thing for him and for the UFC. I’m proud of it.
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You were saying that Forest needs to be punished
Why then would you bring up Rogan then? Rogan was never punished, and there was never a report of him being talked to about it from the higher ups.
Do you want Forrest to also get sick of the contraversey he’s caused and apologize/retract his statement?
I wasn't saying that
Brent said that Forrest should be punished not me.
I said it’s important for Forrest to modify his behavior.
Rogan modified his behavior because of the shit storm we stirred up.
I don’t care what it takes for Forrest to modify his behavior.
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Okay now, that I can agree with.
I apologize for mixing the two of you up. Sure if you’re saying that he should change his behavior to a certain standard for the sake of the FOX deal, I’m fine with that, but punishment is practically out of the question based off history. The UFC themselves are unlikely to do anything substantial to discipline him.
Rogan responded to public criticism
Forrest will possibly do the same or maybe the UFC or Fox will make him.
Maybe not.
But if they don’t get a handle on this sooner or later there will be a PR shitstorm that will cost them a lot of money.
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The other thing is, if it doesn’t come from THIS instance. It’s just another one in the background for when something DOES catch the attention of the mainstream. I.e. Next rape joke someone can say “part of a pattern which was not addressed by the UFC when star Forrest Griffin joked about the topic in early November”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
We don’t know what went on during the deals to get this done. There could have been assurances made by the UFC that those things won’t happen in the future..etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously that's not something they can guarantee
Tho you could be right that, they put in a stipulation of how they would handle such a situation.
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A joke is joke whether you find it funny or not. ????
Sorry what do you mean by that…
If it aint funny it aint a joke. Its:
1)A failed joke =not a joke
2) Just something you said
Yes there are different types of jokes but the basis is that they are supposed to be funny. And how you are able to make his tweet funny in any way shape or form is beyond me… If someone is going to attempt a rape joke and happens to be a public figur they had better be sure it will work..
Not everyone has the same sense of humor, so not everyone will laugh at the same jokes.
I don’t like Dane Cook’s comedy, but I won’t say that he never tells jokes, because there will always be at least one person laughing at them.
Dane Cook doesn't tell jokes
He rambles and people laugh because they’re at a comedy show and feel the need to adapt to the environment.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
He also screams everything as if it makes it funnier.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I actually think he's a charismatic performer and a good storyteller
but that motherfucker steals jokes, and that shit it unforgivable. Especially when you’re stealing jokes from guys like Louis CK.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
I think part of the reason FOX was such a great partner for UFC
is because they routinely do idiotic things too. Making up headlines to shit on Jay Cutler and showing absolutely no remorse for it when they got called out on it, for one.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
The irony being that Dana would be way more upset
if Forrest tweeted that he loved riding Honda’s because Harley Davidson doesn’t pay him anything.
That's not irony.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's called situational irony
It occurs when the opposite of what one would expect occurs. One would expect a boss to get more upset by comments offensive to the general population, instead, said boss only gets upset when the employee make comments that no one finds offensive but upsets a particular sponsor.
Irony: Confusing people on the internet by having more than one definition since 600 B.C.
That's not the opposite of what one would expect. It's exactly what one would expect.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 9, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Like I said previously
He kind of is a comedian. That’s the point of his authoring career, for the most part. That’s how he has successfully marketed himself.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Comedians generally only represent themsleves. Forrest is representing a billion dollar brand on the verge of going mainstream. It was a dumb comment that could contribute to tarnishing the ufc’s image of professionalism .
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by Hardy's in your face on Nov 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
how about Rogan.
is he immune from the punishments that should be inflicted on Forrest because he was a comedian first.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
He shouldn't be
UFC couldn’t spin fast enough when they said he was an ‘independent contractor’. Even if that’s the case and he’s not an employee, shouldn’t there be some contractual policies in place Rogan signs off on while he ‘does business’ with the UFC?
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yes.
but where is the line drawn? he’s able to be punished only during UFC events? what about his pod casts which have his comedy and mentions MMA and UFC in particular? Stand-Up? Fear Factor. what ground does the UFC have if they already went public by calling him an independent contractor?
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Rogan's outburst against Rios
Was on a major MMA board. It wasn’t an official UFC board, but still a widely read board dedicated to the sport he’s an analyst for.
His own website messageboards are I believe private that you have to sign up for.
His podcasts are generally known as comedy podcasts on itunes and sirius radio. Even then when he tries to defend his use of the word ‘faggot’ and makes a decent attempt at an argument where he’s not using it in a prejudiced context towards homosexuals, he’ll say something stupid like (and I’m paraphrasing) “When I say you’re a faggot, it just means you’re a weak bitch”. Which is a common stereotype of homosexuals, physically inferior and not masculine.
So yeah, the line is pretty simple – as long as you work for the UFC as an employee or with the UFC as an independant contractor, there’s a general level of conduct we expect from you in the public forum.
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he also publicly promised to stop using the word faggott
and Dana punished him recently for calling a female reporter a cunt.
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How recently?
Is that when he thought Maggie Hendricks’ writing seemed ‘cunty’? Or has he flat out called a female reporter a cunt?
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I think that's more of a gray area
But I won’t get into that. Plus I like Maggie a lot and think Rogan’s character assessment of her was all wrong. But I don’t see it as him directly calling her a ‘cunt’.
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well lots of other writers that Dana actually care about
like Kevin Iole got very pissed and Dana jumped Rogan’s shit.
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Ahh yes
But still, the same thing applies. Saying her writing is ‘cunty’ on a public, widely read MMA board warrants action. It’s a shame Iole basically forced White’s hand.
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how many times have we busted Rogan's chops
over this same exact kind of crap?
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Nate, I get that.
i’m trying to see what the UFC can do though. what ability do they contractually have to be able to punish him? Forrest or Joe? i’m not being a wise ass, i’m asking.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
dude
they can fire him for no reason whatsoever. they can fine him any amount they want.
Remember Paul Daley?
That’s what they can do.
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They can also “suspend him” and not let him fight for a year or whatever they deem appropriate.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
he is kinda doing that anyways on his own
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
why do i always feel like i'm getting scolded when you reply to me?
What Daley did was in the ring at a live event. I think that might be a bit different.
I’m trying to be realistic here. Forrest is considered by many as the saviour of the UFC. We have discussed on this sight just how significant his fight w/ Bonner was.
Let me ask this then. Knowing that Zuffa can do whatever they want, what do you think they will/should do?
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by F'n Clownshoes on Nov 8, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
i think they will do nothing in this instance
unless it suddenly gets picked up by say, Good Morning America. Then they’ll do something.
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If it actually became an issue of that magnitude, they would drop distance from Forrest so fast it would be funny. It won’t because literally dozens care. As someone that ha worked in PR, let me construct the headline now. “UFC Reality TV Star Tweets Insensitive Rape Comment.”
At,“reality star” the public understands and tunes out. Forrest, the non-in-the-mix fighter goes quietly into the night…
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've got 15 years of PR behind me
(thank God it’s over).
And let’s try a different experiment:
“UFC Star Tweets Rape Joke About Penn State Victims”
bet that goes over real well with all those companies who are buying their first ever ad on an MMA broadcast this weekend.
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NFL star rapes woman
Doesn’t seem to bother Pepsi much.
Again, not siding with Forrest here, but you guys are overreaching.
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I can still remember when UFC was taken off the air
and you couldn’t even get it on PPV.
Let’s not overestimate the rationality of the media.
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So do I, Nate
I don’t agree with the extremity of this situation, in this day in age. Fox isn’t borrowing their nephew money to start a froyo shop and found out he bought weed instead— they covet this product. Forrest making terrible jokes doesn’t jeopardize that.
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no
but they’re now at a level where if a top star says something stupid they have to make a show of punishing him.
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I don't agree
I mean, we’ll see how they handle this.. If they did that, I would understand, but I have a feeling this will pass without much fanfare.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
we'll see
i’m honestly more concerned with Forrest’s mental health and well being.
He’s clearly miserable and depressed.
He’s also aware that UFC is having their biggest event in years and that he’s not on the card.
I think this is a cry for help of sorts.
At least a bad boy looking for some negative reinforcement.
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Again, the NFL takes action against its players.
Also, let’s not pretend that the UFC is as important to advertisers as the NFL
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
UFC isn't as established, so it'll be much easier to sweep away than NFL.
How much money would TV lose if they dropped football?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
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I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm. This is such a tough one. Many of us sign papers at our jobs saying that they. An basically can us for being stupid in our personal lives to the point where it makes the news, but not sure it makes it right. So is the UFC to be responsible for every action or comment on of it’s employees says? Yes, Forrest is at the top of the food chain exposure wise, but in the end he is just a guy that gets hit in the face for a living. Yes,bit was a moronic comment, but does the UFC really need to do anything outside of maybe privately saying STFU.
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm going to stop reading the comments now, it's too depressing,
But let me remind people that the UFC is getting ready for their prime-time push in a couple day. It’s their chance to introduce themselves to the mainstream public, so. yeah, having one of your biggest stars reinforce the neanderthal image of the sport is got to be great for business. It’s also going to wonders to counter the campaign the Culinary Union is running against them. Yeah, this doesn’t give them any ammo whith their attempts to go after the UFC’s sponsors.
It isn’t censorship for the UFC to ask one of their most recongizeable employees not to embarrass the company. It’s called public relations.
by John Nash on Nov 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions 12 recs
Look
Ideally your staff doesn’t do goofy shit in publish like this and yes, this is an especially bad time. I don’t think anyone would say otherwise. But this is who Forrest is.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
As long as he's a UFC employee
‘Forrest being Forrest’ doesn’t excuse him of saying crap like this.
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Sure it does
It’s his persona and it’s made him a lot of money.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Yeah, I'm sure he could title a new book as "Rape is the new missionary"
And the people who’d buy it would be the salt of the earth.
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A book called that
would sell and there is no reason to judge anyone who buys it unless you’re really pretentious.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
If the book wasn't a look at the pervasiveness of rape in western culture
And wasn’t a well thought out, researched and balanced social commentary about why rape exists and what can be done to stop it … if he writes a book with that title and it’s not about that, and you’re eager to buy it, read it and laugh all the way along with Griffin … then you’re nothing more than an asshole.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And if you get up on your soapbox to thumb your nose at the salt of the earth
you’re a pretentious doush.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
That having been said KJ i still 100% love your grapppling analysis.
That is not a rape joke.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn't consider those that would willingly read such a tome
‘the salt of the earth’. It’d be like those who willingly read Mein Kampf because they thought it sounded like a good idea.
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You know...
If he gets in trouble and actually names his book that, or even just pokes fun at it by adding something like “and other thoughts I probably shouldn’t have written down” either way, THAT would be funny. It’d be no more appropriate than this initial tweet, but at least then it’d be somewhat funny.
Forrest Griffin is pretty much a self-proclaimed self-depreciating asshole that makes with the funny now and then. The only real issue here is that he didn’t make with the funny, and 5 nights out of the biggest night in UFC history isn’t the time to be trying out new material on a global stage.
All of that isn’t to say that he can’t, or shouldn’t be punished by the UFC, Gilbert Gottfried lost his job with AFLAC for tasteless jokes on twitter.
Color me pretentious then.
I also go to museums so I thought that would qualify me. But apparently the bar has been lowered.
Ha
Making Forrest a lot of money isn’t going to outweigh costing the UFC a lot of money if there is waves with the sponsors or something.
You have to wonder how much tolerance FOX is going to have for this stuff.
Also, has anyone noticed that in every movie if somebody is wearing a UFC shirt, they’re an Asshole? Maybe this is why.
by flatliner1313 on Nov 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
ANNNND
Mainstrem MMA takes another step backward.
One of the if not the biggest mainstream star jokes about rape on twitter?
Just before the biggest event in history and just after him winning an award for his “creative” tweets.
Yea, this timing is really bad
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
My issue is the fact that forrest griffin fans are defending an UNFUNNY rape joke
i get if you are defending handbanana on ATHF, that shit was hilarious. but the joke Griffin did was just stupid and immature and done for no reason than to appease the stupid 12 year old call of duty fans who argue for the first amendment so they can continue to say their unfunny jokes about the minorities in america.
its one thing if your are defending something that is actually funny from the anti PC, its another to defend a rape joke that frankly sucked.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions
Also funny when “tough” Lois rapes Peter. His reaction was priceless.
This jokes biggest crime is being unfunny you can’t be offensive and unfunny, it just makes you a Dick.
by troyd on Nov 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Outrage and hypersensitivity
Are making America a laughingstock.
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A laughing stock to who?
Medieval feudal cultures that treat women like cattle? Yeah, I’m sure they find it hilarious.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think one needs to find it funny not to find it offensive.
I don’t think it was funny but I am not offended either. I simply couldn’t care less what Griffin tweets about anything.
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Don't start this again...
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
In his defense
I’ve had discussion with many international people who generally agree with that sentiment.
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But do you think that’s the main reason non-Americans who look down on USA do so? It’s a trivial reason compared to many others that could be named.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, there’s a laundry list of things I’d name before political correctness. I can’t speak for all “international people”, though.
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by wonderfulspam on Nov 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
And I’ve had many conversations with international folks who don’t agree with his statement. Do others western civilized nations find us puritanical and uptight? Yes. But, they also find us to be ultra-violent and bloodthirsty.
This is dangerous ground for an MMA board. To really get into IKilled007’s myopic post And debate it would be like putting out fires with gasoline.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, the Taliban probably thought this joke was hilarious.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That hurts.
I want to be your friend mor than anything else in the world.
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meh
poor choice of bad jokes. Famous people need to realize that Twitter and the like don’t filter your living room jokes into stuff that won’t upset some people to your own detriment. I don’t think he should be punished, but he should probably be smarter.
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A lot of the people criticizing Griffin for this are the same people who laugh at Chael Sonnen’s borderline racist and homophobic remarks.
What makes this more offensive than the wrongful generalization of an entire country of people? Or alluding to a certain martial art being made up of homosexuals?
by thievesdont on Nov 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
These posts always reveal the true nature of the "hardcore" MMA fanbase.
And it’s pretty goddamned depressing.
really? i was going to go with "fans are pro-stupidity"
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I definitely think it was stupid and not really funny. But I cannot find myself to give a fuck really.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
you dont have to give a fuck
just dont defend it. the biggest problem in america is people who defend those who do or say something stupid, thus justifying the stupidity.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely understand where you are coming from. At least you are sensible about it.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
I realize that there are some pretty dumb arguments being presented in this comment section… But just because people aren’t overreacting to this tweet doesn’t mean they’re dumb. And acting like you’re above all of this doesn’t make you cool or aware.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Nov 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hello and welcome to the internet
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Is it really too much
to expect people not to judge the entire sport based off a bad joke made on twitter by one fighter? When do we get to that point? That’s a place I’d like to be at.
On the other hand, let’s get our torches and pitchforks out!
This is so stupid.
by jhf884 on Nov 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
You've obviously never tried to imagine what it's like being a rape victim.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Why would I imagine that?!
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Nov 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Some people don't understand why a joke is wrong until they put themselves on the other side of the joke.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
A joke can't be wrong
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I wish for the love of God I knew how to post gifs.
I’d post one of that girl who freaked out on YouTube and said “What’s 2 plus 2? Gonorrhea!” lol
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Same way you post pics.
Click the tree between the subject line and body text, then paste the URL to the pic. Preview to make sure it works, then post.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
ahh shit i clicked and nothing happened.
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by Thats It For you! on Nov 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Riiiiight ...
In point of fact, I’ve worked with victims of sexual assault many times. Try again!
Cause I totally believe anything somebody says on the internet...try again!
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
That did nothing to contribute to this conversation.
You lose, good sir.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, actually.
And if you can’t see that, then I can’t help you. Anyways, I have better things to do than have an argument on BE. I kinda like it here and don’t want to say anything that will make the ban-hammer hungry. Later, gator!
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
i mean really, "Rape is the new missionary"?
thats not even a funny rape joke.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well, if the comments on this thread don't perpetuate any stereotypes about
the MMA fan base, nothing will.
I think you can figure it out
unless you’re one of the stereotypes
by SteamboatWillie on Nov 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re going to make a joke about something as serious as rape, in public, you better make sure it’s damn funny. This wasn’t funny at all, just pointless and stupid. If you are a public figure with tons of twitter followers, you need to have a little better judgment than this, especially at a time like this (FOX etc). I’m not easily offended and I have certainly joked about rape many times with my closes friends, but going on twitter for the world to see is something completely different.
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Forrest needs mods on his fucking twitter....I wish I had one for my facebook honestly. My question now is
Do we get to say that Shogun missionaried Forrest @ UFC 134 ?
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That should become the newest BE in-joke.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
And if this high pitched voiced man says it is so
then it is so.
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
May you be visited in a dark alley by...this!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
I would still smash
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Gloves on
Right?
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by cmons on Nov 8, 2011 7:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that is correct
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
lol exactly
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for reminding me of the machiavellian's little girl voice
That is a BE fact that should never be forgotten
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Anyone who thinks Forrest shouldn't be punished is a child in my eyes.
There’s nothing funny at all about rape. It’s a disgusting act that needs to be looked down upon and treated with scorn, no matter what. People can say that “oh lighten up! It’s comedy, poor form, but comedy!”. I think anyone who treats it like that really needs to get their taste in comedy checked.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Nov 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST reply actions
Goodbye, Forrest. I hope every day for the rest of your life someone asks you about the Anderson Silva fight.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I have seen worse more offensive stuff written on twitter by bigger celebs such as geoff ross poking fun at amy winehouse the day of her death. This is not that big of a deal people just unfollow him he is entitled to his freedom to post whatever he wants on HIS twitter page
"So what we get drunk So what we smoke weed We’re just having fun We don’t care who sees So what we go out That’s how its supposed to be Living young and wild and free."
You people really aren't getting this.
Brent Brookhouse is not going to take away Forrest’s twitter.
I’m dizzy from all the head shaking I’ve done in this thread, no matter which end of the argument you look at, people take it to the extreme.
If I had to say anything though, it’d be that society would be a little fucking nicer if people were more considerate, rather than than have all the white knights “lighten up”.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Nov 8, 2011 7:11 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Amen. Maybe I won't need to make my feelings heard after all.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Do I find his tweet offensive? No, because he’s obviously making a joke. Should the UFC do some “damage control”? Most definitely.
The last thing the UFC wants is negative press when they are about to go on network television.
Just because we “get it” that it’s a joke, doesn’t mean that the mainstrem public and media will. The last thing you want to give opponents of MMA is more ammunition.
In the end, all your friends and family let you down and you die in your own arms, so who cares?
by pharmboy on Nov 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
this sums up how I feel pretty much exactly.
Nice job
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Big whup...
Nobody’s condoning rape, homophobia, douchebaginess or whatever…
Fighters and fans just don’t give a F about those issues. Guarantee DW, Fertitta and Rogan don’t.
Joe Rogan can sympathize with this because he is not funny at all.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, he's decent.
That time he was on UStream talking about Brock Lesnar was pretty funny.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
he destroys hecklers like nobodys business too
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to add this. When he is in a more personal setting, he is pretty funny. And he does destroy hecklers. I feel like his standup is all setup just to get hecklers and then he just wrecks them.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
I like his crazy viewpoints on everything in life as well.
I may not agree with it all, but damn it’s nice to see someone so passionate for what they enjoy and believe in.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think rape is a subject people should give an F about...
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. Remember, you can’t rationalize with an irrational person, you are fighting an uphill battle.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
None if this is a big deal.
Calm down, guys.
You can tell alot about a person just by reading their sig.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Nov 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well I have never been a slave but I find slavery pretty fucking offensive
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Random thought… But if civilization started over, and there were no previous recollection of history, I’d almost guarantee slavery would exist again. Seems like it’s human nature, if you think about all the various situations it’s occurred.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
we are a stupid species.
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Slavery still exists...
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
was trying to type something about that but then my little brain kinda konked out on me
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... I guess that's the America complex in me...
Where I tend to ignore everything else in the world. Since rape is the issue here, Sexual slavery is still a huge and evil problem within the world.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
It exist here in the US as well
don’t be fooled.
Research about the labor it takes to produce an iPhone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn-BR0Y9bcg
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/06/28/the_geopolitics_of_the_iphone
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/05/12/blood_and_gold?page=full
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
It's not just the iPhone
they make a lot of electronics for different companies.
Well I'm admitting I'm completely ignorant about it.
And it doesn’t surprise me at all. The world is a fucked up place, no matter where you live.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Doing research about the DRC and the Congo
…it can bring you to tears.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
But that gives us our iPhones!
Totally worth it, right?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
My research is more about Kony and Lubanga
War criminals. But yeah, the slave labor going into commercial technology is terrible.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it.
Other than onions and really concentrated chemical weapon spray, the only thing that makes me cry is laughing too hard.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Haha
Then I recommend the book “The Rape of Nanking”.
…that was…weirdly coincidental.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I know the story. WWII was pretty sick.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Yeeeah everyone knows the story
But once you read the gory details, the witness accounts…that’s when shit gets real.
Sure, I knew war crimes were taking place in Africa. But once I started reading victim accounts, the sense of hopelessness…it got to me.
This coming from a guy who’s favorite sport is 2 guys trying to kill each other…I’m a tough guy, (OH YUH!) but I’ve been reading this shit nonstop for 6 months for research…brutallll
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Being an ethnic studies is fucking depressing sometimes
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oh god, I can't even imagine.
Seriously.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yup I get to learn about chattel slavery, colonialism, genocide, the prison industrial complex, "color-blind" legislation
and all that other good stuff, all in the name of white supremacy and money, on a daily basis.
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Dude
I am reading Bloodlands right now and I almost puked at the descriptions of the cannibalism.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Here
Since you seem to be a masochist… http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_spectator/2011/02/stalins_cannibals.html
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
In the face of starvation, some families divided, parents turning against children, and children against one another. As the state police, the OGPU, found itself obliged to record, in Soviet Ukraine “Families kill their weakest members, usually children, and use the meat for eating.” Countless parents killed and ate their children and then died of starvation later anyway. One mother cooked her son for herself and her daughter. One 6-year-old girl, saved by other relatives last saw her father when he was sharpening a knife to slaughter her. Other combinations were, of course, possible. One family killed their daughter-in-law, and fed her head to the pigs, and roasted the rest of her body."
and
“One day the children suddenly fell silent, we turned around to see what was happening, and they were eating the smallest child, little Petrus. They were tearing strips from him and eating them. And Petrus was doing the same, he was tearing strips from himself and eating them, he ate as much as he could. The other children put their lips to his wounds and drank his blood. We took the child away from their hungry mouths and we cried.”
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Stuff like this
has desensitized me. Now I just do the best I can do be a good dad to my daughter and keep the world at a distance.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
.
One family killed their daughter-in-law, and fed her head to the pigs, and roasted the rest of her body."
Why didn’t they eat the pigs before resorting to cannibalism?
I don't know, Marge. Trying is the first step towards failure.
There's a in soviet Russia joke here somewhere
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
The point.
You’re not getting it.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot recall the episode, or even homer saying it.
I saw it in my math textbook.
I don't know, Marge. Trying is the first step towards failure.
I was replying to Rolando, not Body Triangle, but shit got too narrow over here. Probably time to call this convo quits.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I can't be sure if that is real....
….If not for the part that the little child being eaten was also eating himself, I would have believed it.
But it just seems so unbelievable.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
I remember seeing a video a year ago of people being burned alive in modern times for being accused of being a witch. I gave up hope on humanity at about that time.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Just read an article regarding the atrocities in the DRC. Horrible! Hopefully more will be written about what is going on over their.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Funny you mention that
Currently writing a journal article about it, hopefully to be published next year. I can keep you updated. Think you found my twitter haha
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
It was an article in the Washington Post online I believe. It was regarding the use of radios to warn of attacks by the Lord’s Resistance Army. Interesting yet saddening piece to read.
Let me know when your article is complete. I just noticed I wrote “their” rather than “there” in my last post—long day.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
haha yeah man
You want to talk crazy, the LRA is the most batshit insane rebel group out there.
They want to overthrow the Ugandan government and install their own based on the 10 commandments. Granted, that’s a heavily watered down version of what they’re doing, but…well, i think thats a good example
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Batshit is putting it mildly. They have kids kill their parents with machete’s. They force a male to rape his sister in front of their parents and kill the parents one at a time if he doesn’t “oblige”. A nightmare scenario. Props to you for doing something about it!!!!
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah man, its crazy
I must freely admit now- I did not give 2 shits about Africa before i started this research (for a law journal by the way). I’m essentially trying to argue that the people should support the International criminal Court to go get those guys.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Their leader is wanted by an International Court. I would assume for war crimes. From what I understand the jungle is very dense so finding them is extremely difficult.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Very true. He's also being supported by other rebel groups
and until recently was supported by the Sudan. But if the US wanted to, we could send in a task force and get him out. We’re on our way to doing that, actually- though Rush Limbaugh criticized the move because they were attacking a “Christian group”. The Lord;s Resistance Army.
Give me a fucking break.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
US Government sent 100 special forces troops to assist. But don’t be fooled, it’s not as easy as you think. The FARC in Colombia has been in hiding for years and the US has been “helping” for years and they just recently killed the main guy. It’s very hard to find people in the jungle. I live in Panama so I know of the problems.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, Panama, que bueno
Mis amigos acaban de volver de Panama. he dijeron que las mujeres…estan como los trenes…huy.
And yeah I feel ya- although, there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes with the FARC. There was some evidence the US had supported them for a few years, before they went and captured some US citizens.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, US probably was supporting them at some point. Panama is a great place!! Where did you learn the language? Where do you go to school?
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Spanish was one of my majors in undergrad
Lived in spain for half a year, spent a summer in Argentina…best days of my life man.
Not sure I want to make that too public- East coast school in the mid-atlantic. Haha sorry
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I understand. Yeah, Spain and Argentina are both great. You aren’t in UVA are you? I sound like a stalker.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
naaah PA school
Also been down in Brazil…god…what a beautiuful country. But my spanish only gets me so far there, haha, though portuguese is surprisingly easy to pick up if you memorize a few conversion rules
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
My spanish is perfect—I was born here but I couldn’t understand much when we went to Brazil. A few words here and there but that’s about it. Rio is one of the most beautiful places in the world if you can block out the poverty and I’ve traveled extensively!
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Ah man so awesome.
You gotta throw me some awesome panamanian colloquialisms. Give me the good stuff. Seriously- I’m a sucker for dirty spanish.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
When I read your article—quid pro quo.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Are you an attorney or studying law? If so, where and what is your area of expertise?
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Studying, second year
Going to go for corporate litigation, but right now, writing for the International Law journal- that’s why i know so much about this shit, haha
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
thats an insultingly simplistic way to look at things
words dont have meaning or context. they are just a bunch of crazy scribbles
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Usually things are a lot simpler than they are made out to be. Words only have the power to offend when you allow them such power. If you weren’t raped you have absolutely zero reason to be offended by this.
this is a fucking retarded line of thinking
and its totally cool that I said that because its just a jumble of letters
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Going along this line of thinking
Wikipedia should ban all articles not written by people that have not directly experienced the article that they plan to write on.
The article for rape can only now be properly described by one who has been the recipient of the rape action. Same goes for sodomy and making gingerbread.
Contacting Wikipedia right now…
get on that. please.
it will relieve me from reading your comments on this blog post
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
cheap entertainment!
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Man tough crowd
I was actually agreeing with you in a roundabout sarcastic way, but feel free to flame me. LOL
sorry for being a turd
im starting to go cross eyed here
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Usually commenters are a lot simpler than they're made out to be.
This is not directed at you.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
I've had close friends who have been raped & sexually abused.
I can’t be offended on their behalf?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
You could...
but living vicariously through others experiences has it’s own pitfalls.
I'm not living vicariously...
…rather, I know very well the effects of rape/abuse, and I don’t take kindly to these sorts of jokes since I’ve seen people I care about suffer these violations.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
So should I be offended by any jokes about death because I know someone who died? It must be quite a job to constantly find things to be offended at all the time.
Rape > Death
You have to live with being raped; you don’t have to live with being dead. Plus, death is inevitable, so we may as well make peace with that. Rape isn’t.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Rape > Death
That should be the name of a band or something. The people still here on earth still have to deal with death and they are the ones who have to hear the joke. Not sure that logic holds up,
Again, death is inevitible. We should learn to deal with it.
Rape is preventable.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rape is preventable.. legalize prostitution.
I can see the bumper sticker now.
STD’s.. also preventable. Should Dave Chappelle have been taken off the air for doing a sketch about them?
...................
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yep
because rapes are about sex…nothing else
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
And what a blow to my life that would be.
by rapsody on Nov 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
God this is just the best gif ever
I rarely tweet
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Thanks.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's like a moth flying to the light...
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
This may be the most beautiful ban of this thread
:p - orcus
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by Richard Wade on Nov 9, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Take the bull head on and you get the horns
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
I thought they were "Baned"
:p - orcus
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that was
hilarious
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him that a year ago. I pulled it out of him and beat him over the head with it. [Now] I'm going to drink a Coors Light. That's right a Coors. Bud Light don't pay me nothing. I may even get on top of my wife tonight," Brock Lesnar.
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by T.P. Grant on Nov 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very true and I would imagine if you asked a rape victim some would say they wish they were dead. Not really a subject for jokes.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
People who really wished they were dead kill themselves or find ways to die.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Yeah, how about those of us who have loved ones who were raped?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve had loved ones who had cancer, I’ve had loved ones who have died, I’ve had loved ones who have mental handicaps.. I don’t get offended at jokes about any of those things. I’m not saying everyone thinks like me.. but they probably should.
Those aren’t the same thing at all. Like…at all.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
No. See above reply from Jon Bois:
cancer jokes don’t exacerbate a culture of cancer that excuses cancer growth. personally i wouldn’t make cancer jokes anyway, but hey.
and
jokes are a major component of the public discourse
and the public discourse is more powerful than almost anything when it comes to exacerbating the popularity of a given perspective.
Cancer is traumatic, but it’s not the same as being raped in the control and culture aspects
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
So making rape jokes leads to more rapes or excuses rape?
That’s like saying that making jokes about how lawyers should be killed leads to more murdered lawyers or a culture of acceptance for lawyer murder.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
It DOES lead to things like people insisting that women “had it coming” and not fully grasping the impact and seriousness of rape.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Who really says women had it coming?
Aside from trolls and maybe a few religious psychos, who says that in the public discourse?
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Some law cases say it.
I know. Its really fucked up. Its in the books.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm
how about supporters of a presidential candidate who’s being accused of things as his campaign starts to build support?
nah, that would never happen.
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Sex harassment and rape are not even in the same ballpark
Lewd and suggestive comments are inappropriate in most cases, but they’re not even remotely like forcing yourself on someone. Not that I think anyone should defend that either, but let’s stick to the rape.
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and please don't mention any actual candidates here
this isn’t a political forum.
candidates of both parties could be the one in question.
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sorry nate
i did that before you siad this!
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
The entire “Slutwalk” movement started when a cop suggested that “women should avoid dressing like sluts.” to be safe.
That’s basically saying that women “have it coming” if they dress or act a certain way.
That 11 year old girl who was gang raped in TX? Had a lot of an entire town saying it was her fault for how she dressed and acted.
..etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
how about the cheerleader who was raped by the basketball star
It's an admittance by him that men lack self-control
The other side of that coin is cultures that expect or make women wear Hijabs, because men lack self-control when it comes to attraction and might otherwise rape them.
The problem still is with certain types of men, and not the women.
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The femicides in Juarez were initially dismissed because
the women “had it coming” for walking around late at night and wearing makeup.
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HOW DO MORE PEOPLE ON HERE NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
Super frustrating. Brent, nice work. Unfortunately it looks like you are fighting a losing battle.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
You know how you guys always say the commenters are a small fraction of all readers? Kinda scary how many other people there are out there who don’t understand.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Because rape is an act perpetrated by one on an other
One person doesn’t directly give another person cancer, a mental handicap or cause them to die (unless it’s murder). There may be some bizarre scenarios where this is the case, but with rape? That’s always a direct action.
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Just to enter something into the record... How should we feel about you?
My wallet has been raped tonight. just raped
Brookhouse comment after a fight.
Yay Rape!
Brookhouse after someone said, “Mike Tyson ftw!”
If you’re saying to step in his way when he’s driving to make him think twice about just raping the paint? Sure…that’s a part of basketball.
Brookhouse talking sports and using rape as a euphemism for dominating.
So you can make facetious remarks, jokes or analogize sports to rape, but others can’t?
Or is it because Zuffa is bigger than Vox Media? They get more exposure? Don’t you represent Vox when you’re on here?
What was your punishment? My memory is fuzzy, but haven’t you been promoted since then? I haven’t seen any sincere acts of contrition that I can recall.
I get that the UFC is trying to reach a wider audience, but you said that there was nothing funny about rape. Are they only not funny when the company you represent gets on a network? How many more million unique visitors does Vox need to get to make them unfunny when you do them?
All the above said, I’m fine with Zuffa punishing Forrest. I just don’t care for people hypocritically making moral stands. I knew I had seen you say stuff just as offensive as what he said about rape in the past, and didn’t see anyone bring it up. A ten second search of your comment history refreshed my memory.
The contexts where Brent said that were MUCH less offensive and much less public.
Saying “rape is the new missionary position” in reference to the Penn State Scandal, where an 82 year old man stands accused of violating little boys… that is fucking classless, moronic, and not funny at all. He wasn’t using the bastardized version of the word rape that people use as slang.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
*He WAS using the bastardized version of the word in the 1'st and 3'rd examples
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
But I was lead to believe rape jokes are never funny
I don’t know the complete context of Forrest’s use, since it was deleted by the time I looked.
How does Brent using the word rape in jokes and euphimisms not “lead to things like people insisting that women "had it coming" and not fully grasping the impact and seriousness of rape” but Forrest’s does?
How is BE really less public than twitter, and why does the number of people who see it change things? It has fewer users, but it’s easily accessible to anyone with a computer.
Do you think that Brent’s use weren’t classless, moronic and unfunny? I think they were.
Trying way too hard and not realizing that words have various meanings to prove a point that isn’t valid?
Keep it up!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not the same at all and if you’re saying it is, you’re an idiot.
It’s not joking about the ACT of rape. Check the dictionary, sir:
an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
to seize, take, or carry off by force.
And the Tyson thing is clearly me saying that I refuse to root for Tyson given the whole rape conviction.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Good debate.
If you disagree, you’re dumb. Keep it up! The inability to question oneself is somehow a sign of strength.
“Yay rape!” was clearly facetious, but it was a joke about the act of rape even if you were mocking someone for liking a rapist.
You can continue to make an exception for yourself, but it’s an act of undeveloped morality.
Too bad Nate banned you. I’d really like to know how mocking the idea of celebrating a racist is the same as joking about the act of rape as Forrest’s tweets.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m one of those people, and honestly at the end of the day it doesn’t change anything to get upset at this kind of stuff.
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
Just because it was intended as a joke, doesn't mean it's not in bad taste, and it doesn't mean people have to accept it as such
I despise the “you’re too PC/sensitive” privilege.
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by sun yue on Nov 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Maybe he wasn’t talking about the actual missionary position. Maybe he was talking about actual missionaries referencing years of sexual abuse by the church?
Its all a big misunderstanding.
by vicesquad26 on Nov 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think you have something there
I think what he meant to say is that rape is the new missionary WORK that missionaries should strive to work upon in their healing endeavours.
Yeah, that’s it. Let’s give Forrest the benefit of the doubt!
Settle down now
Does anyone really believe Forest Griffin is advocating for rape seriously? The guy made a joke, a politically insensitive one at that, but the guy is known for his sarcastic wit anyways.
If a whole nation can forgive a douchebag like Michael Vick, why should a tweet like this get everyone so worked up?
I’ll bet everyone knows someone that has told a joke like that in the workplace, but since we don’t have witch hunts everyday, I can assume civilization won’t collapse from stuff like this.
Joke or not, it was a dumb thing to tweet
and I don’t think it’s an overreaction for the community to criticize him for it. Yes, many people say worse things on a daily basis, but two wrongs don’t make a right, and if anything, non-celebrities should be more careful with their words as well. Ultimately, you’re right that it’s not the end of the world that he’s making a dumb joke, but that shouldn’t stop us, as a community, from critiquing it and looking at the privileging discourses behind it.
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I guess
Sure it’s wrong, but on the grand scale of things, I just don’t see the point of getting so upset over something such as an unfiltered tweet that I doubt the guy really meant more than a poorly thought out joke.
I’m sure his book probably contains stuff like this in, but I don’t think there was too much outrage. Same goes for Matt Hughes’ book, but i could be wrong.
wow.
I am appalled. There are way better jokes about rape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU
Patrice Oneal’s take on rape jokes:
http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=11098
Get well soon Patrice!
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
i'll pass your wishes on to him
next time I see him. Assuming he gets well.
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
i just like to put good thoughts into the universe. I feel like it helps
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How am I going to enjoy the fight on Saturday when I’m still thinking about Forrest’s comment?
by Territo on Nov 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, so excited about that Road to the Heavyweight Title special on Spike! You gonna watch it, too?
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Was anyone offended when
the MMA community dubbed Wand’s knockout of Jardine (among others) “the rape-choke”?
I’m genuinely curious here, not trying to flame.
What did Rogan call Brock's?
The inappropriate touching choke?
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
I call it a throat-post
Rogan blurted it out because that’s what he and others call it in 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu. But I’ve gone on before about how stupid it is for innuendo and drug culture to be tacked on to a martial art that at least in the west is expected to have an image of discipline and respect,
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I always thought it was called the "rape choke" becase, well, that's what it looks like...and it isn't pretty.
Bigfoot pulled the same thing on Fedor during their fight.
Am I being naive?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if 'naive' is the right word
I think the term in this day and age is completely unnecessary though.
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Yeah, it got some backlash.
It was brought up how Joe kinda coined the term, and I can’t remember for sure but I believe he may have issued some kind of statement afterwards, or at least stopped using it in the future.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t offended but because it’s really hard to offend me. I did find it terribly inappropriate though.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Let's kick him out of the UFC
Fine him and make him fight Anderson Silva everyday.
No I am not overreacting.
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by We All Hate Caleb on Nov 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
There's a good percentage of you who are being asinine dicks in this thread.
Hopefully I can get by without that being a personal attack, since it’s generalized.
Play nice, you can argue whichever side of the dispute you want, but do it like a civilized person. This is supposed to be one of the few places on the Internet where we’re not surrounded by assholes.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is why I enjoy you, Mr. Kater.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 8, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
If only he wasn't K-1 scum
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Some say rape is just aggressive love making.
Relax, just a joke. What Forrest said WAS inappropriate, that said, how many athletes are intelligent? People need to stop holding athletes to any kind of standard. The vast majority are morons.
Hey! Guess what...?
This won’t change shit regarding the UFC. Stop crying. Thanks!
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solid input
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
and an appropriate username
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
And where are you headed with that one
Kookhouse?!
by Keyboard_warrior on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sad trombone sound effect
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
He could of at least said something witty if he was going to risk being banned.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
i think he thought he did
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You and Kater have me rolling all over this comment section, which is helpful because the vast majority of the others are making me reevaluate my beliefs about my fellow man.
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by VirtualBalboa on Nov 8, 2011 7:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
There are still a few of us who have common sense.
That’s what you get when you fuck with the Internet. It’s easy for people to hide behind a screen name and say stupid shit.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, people are being stupid and suggesting that
A) I think Forrest was condoning rape. I don’t.
B) I don’t believe in “freedom of speech.” I do, but it doesn’t mean what most of you who think I don’t think it does. (follow that?)
C) It’s okay because comedians do it. Comedians who work for large companies also suffer for making such jokes. Do I need to make a list for you?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
It’s baffling that people don’t grasp the concept that when you work for a company you represent them and can’t do stupid shit like this. This is the same thing discussed when Joe Rogan made an offensive joke and people claimed he was a comedian so it was okay. Whatever else he does in his free time is still relevant when he’s a public figure for a giant company like this. It’s like saying Mel Gibson can be racist all he wants, as long as he doesn’t include it in his movies… Riiiiight.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Listen, do I expect the UFC to do something about this, maybe, at least in private to Forrest, mostly depends how much this story blows up. The UFC has a business to run and they’ll take whatever action they feel is necessary to protect their brand, just as any big company would do.
On a personal level, I couldn’t care less about what any fighter says, if he wants to nickname himself the rapist and he was previously convicted for it, whatever. If anyone here needs more drama in their lives start following Bloodstainlane and let him know that you find his words highly offensive and they aren’t appropriate on this side of the internet.
Yeah, it’s not about you… It’s about the mainstream media and the people who love to join crusades when shit like this happens. And honestly this wouldn’t be the most ridiculous reason for someone to portray the UFC negatively if there’s no form of public punishment. If they don’t, they’re going to look like they condone this stuff.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yet Rashad is the most hated fighter
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by warren305 on Nov 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Someone brought that up earlier in this cornucopia of a comment section.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
That didn't bother me- but I was surprised to hear that much "Comedian Joe" on air.
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by SanFranpsycho on Nov 8, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think there's a problem with making a good rape joke.
I don’t think there’s a problem with making any off-color joke. Nigger, faggot, cunt, et al are all just words, and the only power they really (should) have is the context in which they are used.
I think that blurred gif of Anderson and Henderson is a good example. The punchline is that Anderson so dominated and imposed himself on Hendo, that the fight was akin to a rape. I think the gif is clever, and the joke is funny. Is it blue? Yes. But is it terrible? I don’t think so. It’s clever.
Forrest’s rape punchline is basically “I think rape is OK and standard sexual practice.” He’s being facetious, and I think that’s clear. No one thinks he’s really pro-rape. I think what’s striking a nerve w/ people is the fact the “rape” is not a means to an end in Forrest’s joke, but an end unto itself.
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I also think that it was shitty of him, if that's not clear.
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by SanFranpsycho on Nov 8, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I can laugh at anything, but it all depends on the context. In this situation, there is nothing funny about it.
I don’t understand how a basic concept like professional conduct can be so lost on people. This isn’t a joke between close friends. He has the most twitter followers. He should be held accountable for it for sure. A friend of mine was date raped back in university, and it is something that forever changed her. Griffin comes across as self-deprecating, which convinces people he’s a harmless dude who likes to poke fun at himself, but when you really take a look at the stuff he says and does, he’s really just a dick.
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It's quite amazing that the words "Rape", "Faggot", and "Gay"
Immediately blow up Bloody Elbow on a near weekly basis.
Can’t say I like the “joke” and he should be fined for it on the basis that it’s public, but there’s quite a sensitive bunch over anything deemed too far beyond PC lines.
Also given the Penn State scandal this makes the joke in even worse taste.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
The Penn State thing was the first to pop in my mind. I don’t know the context of the tweet nor do I really care because Forrest isn’t nearly as funny as he thinks he is but the timing couldn’t be worse.
the pdf of the investigation (all 23 pages ) is linked @ espn.com
i just cant read it because it is so fucking depressing and vile i bet
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
It was a slow day at the office and I had too much time on my hands which caused me to read a whole lot on the subject. I don’t think there’s a word strong enough to describe how deplorable everyone involved is. I’d call them evil but I don’t think even that word does any justice.
I heard a snippet of info on Mike and Mike this morning and i almost puked all over my steering wheel
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
But if that situation is what was at the core of that tweet then I’m sad. I understand this is the internet and everything is a joke but… man.
Forrest is at heart, a hillbilly from the south so I mean…..i dont know. Im just sayin. Ya know?
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
The entire situation reminds me of
a Law and Order:SVU episode but in real life, and probably somehow more fucked up.
but thankfully Ice T isn't a part of it
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
You know what pisses me off?
The guy is certainly going to get life. But the Boy Scouts and Catholic Church get away with slaps on the wrist for the exact same thing.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
I KNEW WE could somehow talk about religion, rape, and politics all in one post
Well done
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
and now South Park!
Cartman: Does a bear crap in the woods and does the Pope crap on the dreams of 200 deaf boys?
I remember that, but can't think of what episode it's from.
Didn’t he keep coming up with more and more offensive analogies for that?
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah a few more
it was the one where he is running illegal KFC
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
More importantly
it was the medicinal marijuana episode too.
We all deserve a pat on the back
Seriously, love this stuff, gets me through class
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
this one is mine
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I just think people deserve respect regardless of race/class/gender/sexuality
Maybe people who say homophobic slurs don’t consciously intend to be homophobic, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to say things like that because of the hate, pain and historical context of words like “faggot”, “nigger”, “oriental”, etc. And I think it’s good for people to open up discussions on why such words can be hurtful.
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Yep it’s always the people who don’t fit into the demographic being referred to who think just because they don’t interpret a word that way that it’s socially acceptable.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
The benefit to stories like this? Clearing out the rubbish.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Was there any context for the comment? Or was it just a non sequitur?
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by SanFranpsycho on Nov 8, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
The context would be as a response to Blackout612’s comment…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
I meant Forrest's comment.
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by SanFranpsycho on Nov 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Penn State scandal. Which seriously just makes it worse.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't realize that.
That makes me lose a ton of respect for Forrest.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
When I began reading the posts, I thought the same thing!!!
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Its really not about whether you find what he’s saying offensive (although I definitely understand why someone would) – the problem is that he represents the UFC and the UFC as an organization looking to break into the mainstream and get away from its reputation as a spectacle of violence for the lowest common denominator of society.
Brent is also correct that Dana’s double speak of the inability to police all of the fighters when they have to look at all of the fighter’s tweets in order to reward them is pretty insulting to the intelligence of both the media and the fans reading the UFC response.
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One thing I’ve learned is if something is offensive, dickish young men (and sometimes women) will make jokes about it because they enjoy the attention and get a kick out of other people getting all worked up over what they perceive to be no big deal.
It’s a sign of a lack of intelligence in my opinion, or at least a failure to mature past the age of oh, 15….?
That this is being discussed on a sports message board is no surprise. The sports world has a lot of immature males in and around it. But make no mistake, words do influence actions.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
Did anyone else see the footage of JoPa’s son speaking and a crowd chanting “paterno! Paterno! Paterno!” behind him…sad
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 9:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK, this is getting too serious for me
I’m going to go play some WoW.
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and then someone showed me how to see how many hours i’ve played it.
Haven’t played in years but Panda’s are tempting me to try it again.
Those pandas, man. I’ve never played WoW but just looking at the promo for that expansion made me angry. So silly.
by Horselover Fat on Nov 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
That shit still exists? Jesus.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Here’s my main:
Modeled her after my fiancee.
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I had a similar looking character
Briefly, but others just ran up and humped her leg all the time. I stopped playing pretty quickly.
If you're gonna tell a rape joke
it better be damn funny.
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One last comment...
I don’t get the “joke”. Can someone explain what Griffin meant and why it would be funny if rape were something that people could make jokes about?
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Seriously?
If you don’t get it, trust me, it’s not worth explaining. It’s not like there was anything worthwhile to decipher.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's saying something about rape as the hot new sexual position, replacing missionary.
It was actually a subversive commentary on the permissiveness of anti-feminism in our Puritanical culture. By saying the rape is as commonplace as the missionary position, he’s raising the issue of how commonplace it is to treat women as property, not persons. Also, by comparing it to missionary, he’s highlighting how both the most popular sexual acts, then and now, disfavor women’s sexual satisfaction.
Maybe we don’t give Forrest enough credit.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
Maybe not with so many fancy words, but I actually thought this was his joke
A satirical statement on how common it is for high-profile, well respected celebs/trusted authority figures to have rape/harassment/sex scandals. Rape being the new norm. Granted, not funny. But it’s also just 5 words on Twitter. It takes people making a story out of it for it to become a story.
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Except this follows / precedes a comment he made
Telling a guy to fuck his mother in the Penn State showers. So yeah, pretty sure he was just being a misanthropic asshole and not a pioneering satirist.
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i dont think that it was a joke.
i think he chose a few words to talk about the absurdity that sex has or can become for a person or a society. have you ever watched hardcore porn? theres some crazy shit out there that people do to each other to get off. probably makes the missionary position feel pretty antiquated.
i don't find this to be a topic that has warrented so many comments.
why people care so much about shit like this or the penn state scandal is beyond me. nancy grace aint got nothin on you brent.
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by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude always has a dissenting opinion. He’s quickly becoming my least favorite poster here.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t understand why people care about the Penn State situation?
You don’t understand why people care about a story involving a state university and the molestation of kids?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
no i dont understand why people care enough to watch espn at happy hour and listen to that crap. i wanted to watch fight replays on hdnet. nope. people give a shit up untill the media takes it out of the news cycle.
Are you gonna be okay?
Watching the shit that happens in the world is too much for you?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't understand why people would be upset over molestation,
than I giving up on humanity.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Nov 9, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
don't give up on humanity
…its too easy, give up on this guy instead
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by rohedron on Nov 9, 2011 6:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is beyond ignorant.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You don't find this topic warrant so many comments!
Well in that case let me apologize…. You hold yourself in high regard my man.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
This has to be a troll...
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by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Drunk twittering is a bad idea
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...
It was a Stupid Thing to Say
there is no denying that. All of our personal moral guidelines are going to be different and don’t matter. Forrest is an employee of a company and it’s his job to represent them in the manner they require. As a public figure that means he is “always at work”. Up to this point the UFC has not been willing to take a position on the issue of what their fighters say in public. One would think the Zuffa made millionaires like Forrest Griffin would be willing to act in a positive way for the company that filled their bank account to the brim. As of now though the UFC has not handed down any restrictions or discipline to what the guys can and can’t say so for now what Forrest did is not an out of line act. We can not pass moral judgment on a man for saying what he chooses in America. By choosing to follow someone on twitter you are accepting to hear whatever they choose to say. The UFC is going to find itself in a position soon where they have to set enforceable guidelines on employee speech. Public demand is what drives the decision making of the company, the more people speak out the more pressing the issue will be for Zuffa.
Here’s the thing.
Fox changes the game.
- UFC star says something out of line
- UFC does nothing.
- Mainstream media gets the story
- Now Fox is put in the middle as they’re effectively endorsing the UFC by paying them for their events.
- Fox can’t say “that’s the UFC’s problem” because they’re putting the UFC on their airwaves.
- Now Fox is pissed because the UFC’s issue becomes THEIR issue and makes them look bad via the relationship.
…this is how shit works. It’s why the NFL and MLB handling shit like they do makes it easier on advertisers and networks.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST reply actions
Chris Cook choked a woman two weeks ago
The Vikings played on Fox the next day.
I mean, I understand what you’re saying, I just don’t believe the ramifications are near to what this suggests. Forrest should be admonished as a precaution, but Fox isn’t gonna be waving a gun at anyone, and Forrest won’t get suspended/fined.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
REAL rapists are also superstar QBs for Pittsburgh.
(allegedly)
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
right up the road from my house too
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Again, went though court system and was suspended. AGAIN, taking pressure off Fox as SOMEONE is taking action.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
No, I don't agree
The league doesn’t do it to appease Fox, they do it to appease the league (and Pittsburgh is an AFC/CBS team, not Fox).
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
And didn't the NFL suspend him while the stuff was going on?
Maybe not, maybe I’m thinking of a different situation.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Cook was suspended without pay. That took the pressure off Fox. They didn’t have to express any opinion or insight, the league had already dealt with it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Fox never would have
We both know that. The Vikings preempted a move by the league.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
The point isn’t about Fox having to take action, again. the NFL is a different story based on how important it is. But Fox isn’t put in a position where they HAVE to take a stance and potentially offend advertisers. Fox (and CBS) getting to just air games and not worry about having to get involved even to the agree of taking a stance.
With the UFC, they’re NOT that important and this CAN put Fox in a position where they decide that it’s not worth it to associate with the promotion if it hurts relationships with advertisers or their own reputation.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think you and Nate are jumping to an inordinate number of conclusions
I’m just trying to me impartial. I’d be surprised to see any public recourse, but it might do some good. I agree that the UFC needs to handle PR A LOT better. Been saying that for a long time, but it’s not merely relegated to instances such as this.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
i know SOME things that I’m hoping I can say soon. but I can promise you that this is having an impact at fox at the moment.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
You're a fucking teaese Brookhouse
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Calling him a "tease"?
Saying he deserved it? HOW DARE YOU!!!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I read that in the voice of a teenage girl
Is that about right?
:p - orcus
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My voice is not that high!!!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Oh goddammit, I read that in a high voice, too.
You bastards, look what you’ve done to me!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
welp, Scott...all your posts are now read in a comically high voice.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
i have been reading them like that for at least a year now
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if you read it aloud, it would inevitably be read in a high voice.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 8, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you are a fucking wizard, dude
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Wade’s ability to use the subject line to its maximum potential is unparalleled.
:p - orcus
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Unparalleled.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 9, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Sebastian Bach is envious of your natural falsetto
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
When someone who doesn’t know me calls and I answer the phone, they call me “ma’am” – Scott C. Broussard
Nuff Said
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
yep
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if that's true
Do you really have to call for discipline? Seems that it would be a given if this is the case.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
I’m not saying that they’re taking any action against Forrest. I’m just saying that I know that Fox is being forced to have a discussion about it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Good
I think there’s certainly an amount of over reaction in the MMA blogosphere to some situations, more amongst commenters than writers. But these situations are far too frequent and a level accountability is necessary.
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
As well they should
They’re a well run operation and they’re just getting into this sport. I’m sure they see a lot of what’s going on, and likely have individuals designated to following media/collecting intelligence on MMA.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
THEY TRICKED ME AGAIN, DAMN IT
why am i painting this fucking fence? I’m outta here.
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Once said discussion is over, they will throw their Solo cups in the trash and go back to their cubicals.
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nothing at all will be said by Fox. Nothing on the record or official that is. At most, the UFC will give a press release saying they do not condone it, etc. however, they will let it go away. No major news orgs are going to report this…good or bad who knows?
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fox has been the home of raunchy and controversy for years now, it will take something pretty extreme to create friction between them and the UFC. Forrest’s tweet is not extreme enough. There have been worse things that’s happened and no repercussions have befallen the UFC then, so there won’t be any now.
TV shows aren’t the same as sports and “real life” when it comes to attracting advertisers.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 8, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
This Twitter bonus thing is absurd and stupid and should cease immediately
There’s no benefit to this.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
To all the people saying this is terrible for the sport, lets put it in perspective. It could be worse. He could have actually raped someone or been accused of it, like many other pro atlhletes of other sports.
hell
why stop there? he could be the architect of 9/11 that would be worse too.
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by Kid Nate on Nov 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
if only i could photoshop this
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
whatever happened...on 9/11, elevelevelevelveleven...
what ever happened… on nine eleeeeven
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
don’t joke about 9/11. its not a matter to joke about. thousands of people were brutally murdered.
i’m not serious so please don’t ban me. but you get my point right? you say something that is clearly sarcastic and has zero bad intentions, but surely a family member of a 9/11 victim could’ve found it offensive.
"I will beat you into a living death" – Ken Shamrock
by mpk46 on Nov 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sure
but I’m not acting in my capacity as a superstar millionaire representative of a wannabe major sport.
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Very true
i have some kind of weird empathy towards celebrities who are forced into conforming to society’s extremely scrutinized standards. i completely understand that he is making a bad PR move, and it could hurt the company.
"I will beat you into a living death" – Ken Shamrock
that's all i care about
that and he appears to be deeply depressed and behaving in a self-destructive fashion. I’m not a fan of the guy but I hate to see that kind of behavior from anyone.
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Yeah, he was really odd last night as well. Retweeting numerous Forrest bashing jokes for most of the evening.
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Yeah i was wondering if it was just me who thought he was getting pretty depressed and seemed like he didn’t care anymore. i think the difficulty of having a family and training may be getting to him
"I will beat you into a living death" – Ken Shamrock
He is such an interesting, and flawed person. For such a “fan favorite” most people who encounter him in person say he is a ass. I met two fighters in Boston at 118. Forrest and nick Diaz. Guess who the ass that acted like he could care less that I was alive was?
by troutki on Nov 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’ve seen some videos of Nick talking to people and he seems like a sorta weird but well intentioned dude—nothing wrong ‘bout him; while Forrest seems like he’s pissed off all the time. It’s weird.
I gotta go with Nick being the nice guy. Am I correct?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
We should never joke about anything so we never offend anyone right?
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 6:22 AM EST up reply actions
No drama here move on people. In the modern world joking about anything is ok and does not mean someone seriously means any harm. Get over it.
Oh thank god, I thought we were in the post-modern world
by Body Triangle on Nov 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully it's post-apocalyptic and involves zombies.
If I’m going to go out, that’s how I want it to end.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
atta boy
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Nov 8, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
The demographic of the fans of contact sports
rears it’s ugly head again. Someday, you will have wives, and daughters, and small children, and you’ll realize why people get pissed about joking about rape and failures to turn people in who are molesting children in showers. Until then, back to WoW and Chem 202 class with you….
by Dootch on Nov 8, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
I had hard enough problems with high school chemistry. Balancing hemical equations fits in with my “whom” issue from above.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
*chemical. Obviously. My laptop keys suck.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Try being an English major.
You get all the weird critical theory without the payoff of doing something useful or correct.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 8, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have any of those
and I can understand how utterly stupid that was.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Okay rape is very very wrong
But what Forrest said is clearly a joke and nothing more. People get so worked up over shit its unbelievable. The PC police are in action LOL.
I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!
The PC police are in action LOL.
This is beginning to be exasperating, but that’s the point, that mainstream media will jump all over something like this, and the UFC doesn’t need it given their debut to broadcast television in 4 days and the ongoing issue with the Culinary Union. Throw in the recent Penn State scandal, and it just makes it worse.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
You guys are taking this way too seriously. It’s just a joke, get over it.
Save it for Perez Hilton's website tomorrow.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I've been reprimended before for saying something funny, or that I thought was funny, but someone found objectionable. And on this site, no less (Hi Mr. Roth, how you doin').
But, I don’t think it is wrong. At all.
If I, or anyone else for that matter, can say stupid shit, then they should be prepared for the consequences. it is way more PC in my oppinion to say something stupid in public and then turn around and say “What? It was only a joke! Get over it, you bunch of PC twats!” because that is placing an unnecessary burden on the community at large to submit to the will of a single individual. Freedom of speech goes both ways, and that includes someone—or many someones—telling you to shut the fuck up.
So, yeah, while I can understand Forrest trying to make a funny, fuck him. May he take what he can from it and move on, and may the UFC discipline the guy lest they risk looking like assholes so close to their big night on FOX.
There’s nothing else to say, really.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This
Anyone who regularly makes smartass comments or off-color jokes has offended someone. And there are repercussions for that of varying degree.
:p - orcus
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that's what you get when you seek too much attention on twitter
man is brother unto man, live & let live
You get it?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
i love you
You can tell alot about a person just by reading their sig.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Nov 8, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Problem is I'm not even trying to be funny...
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
I know but your comments,
your display pic and your sig…just so much win. I salute you.
You can tell alot about a person just by reading their sig.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Nov 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I salute you back, good sir.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, so I just checked Forrest's twitter and it seems he has deleted the tweet in question
The latest one say this:
ForrestGriffin
I’m sorry I’m gonna go ahead and put myself of twitter restriction until next week
5 hours ago
So there’s that. I can’t find anything about rape on there, he must have deleted it. Another successful campaign eh Brent?
I don't get it.
Maybe it is b/c I’m not a native english speaker and the intricacies of the language are lost on my taco-loving mind, but I’m pretty sure that “I’m sorry I’m gonna go ahead and put myself of twitter restriction until next week” makes no fucking grammatical sense.
I don’t even think he wanted to write on, in there, given that n anf f ain’t even that close; either that, or Forrest is getting punchy and it is affecting his keyboard skills… …which kinda sucks, if you think ’bout it—I blame lethargo-Shogun.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Forrest is a terrible typer/texter/speller/etc.
He makes all kinds of errors like that.
It’s entirely possible the guy was originally trying to say something about tape.
"Tape is the new missionary."
Still comes across as Shogun having executed plenty of his neurons.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Or "Snape is the new messiah"
Really, the possibilities are endless.
"Cake is the new mormon."
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Never understood why so many people like this guy. He’s always seemed pretty unstable and certainly a jack ass. shrug
He is actually a pretty well known asshole
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hence why people love watching him get destroyed.
People love him b/c he delivers consistently on that front.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 8, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
no wonder
I believe in Chael Sonnen.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 8, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Ive read about 900 comments concerning this
and I still can’t figure out why I shoud care that he said this
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him that a year ago. I pulled it out of him and beat him over the head with it. [Now] I'm going to drink a Coors Light. That's right a Coors. Bud Light don't pay me nothing. I may even get on top of my wife tonight," Brock Lesnar.
As a fan of the sport, you should care because it reflects poorly on the UFC as a promotion at a time when they’re attempting to make a big advancement in publicity and exposure. This is far from the first instance of public impropriety. It’s not even the first in very recent memory. As Nate pointed out above, this sort of thing could easily turn into a shitstorm if the right media outlet decided to go after it.
Individually, if you don’t follow him on twitter and aren’t personally offended by the comment, then there’s no reason you should give any fucks at all.
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Nov 9, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
As a fan of the sport...
Why do i give 2 shits whether the UFC gets reflected poorly in the mainstream? Because it might hinder Dana and the Fertittas from making more money and having more control (i dont want to say monopolise) over the sport even more?
I love the UFC but I don’t give a fuck whether it is on spike, fox, mtv, ppv or espn. If for some really unlikely reason a network drops the UFC because it’s fighters offend some poor little souls, there will be 100 others willing to pick them up – and as long as I get to watch MMA, who cares what logo is in the corner of the tv screen.
If some ‘journalist’ or media outlet decide to run with the story and create a storm in a tea-cup, they really need to honestly see the context and not conveniently forget it. Why the fuck someone would get offended by something that wasn’t said directly to or about them has got me fucked.
That's pretty solid logic but you don't look toward effects at all
You’re a fight fan and want to see fights. Right now, especially with the advent of the UFC on FOX, it is very important that the UFC does well. With that contract ( and the HW title on network television) you’re more likely to see higher quality fights on free TV – which is a big benefit to you monetarily as I’m sure this was a big factor in UFC scaling down their PPV schedule for 2012.
To maximize the potential of the FOX contract the UFC needs advertisers. That is why this is a significant circumstance. This joke, standing alone, is not a huge issue. However, it’s (that’s how you use the contraction Nate) a pattern of inappropriate behavior by UFC personalities including Rampage, Rogan, and Dana. That is a huge deterrent to advertisers who could potentially invest in the UFC brand.
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
I get all of that, and appreciate it from the UFC's standpoint.
I just don’t understand why everything is about trying to be like the NFL etc. I don’t care that MMA isn’t mainstream and I don’t care that the fighters aren’t role models.
Yes, free cards are great but at the end of the day I am a fan and will gladly pay money for most of the cards. If John Smith down the road would rather watch NFL, NBA or Sex in the city than a free Fox card, I don’t care, thats his decision – I just don’t feel this want/need to bring MMA into a billion homes as Dana likes to say.
It isn’t about the betterment of the sport, it is about the UFC lining their pockets. It will be better financially for some fighters which I more than agree with, but will it be across the board probably not. Your GSPs and Brock Lesnars will probably get more of a clip because they are a draw, but you will still see bottom tier guys fighting for measly wages.
Will the judging become better? Will the referees become more competent? I don’t see that happening as a result of this. I also don’t see Japanese MMA being rescued and I don’t see Strikeforce staying alive.
Would I love to turn the TV on of a Monday night and tune into fights? Absolutely. I would also love to see more behind the scenes and lifestyle type shows. I agree there are a lot of benefits to this deal and appeasing the networks makes all this happen, but if the UFC were to keep going along as it has been with PPV’s and a few fights on Spike here and there, I would be just as happy.
This isn’t baseball and this isn’t football. This is men jumping in a cage and trying to beat the living crap out of each other to the point where somebody gives up or isn’t in a position to make that choice for themselves. These guys don’t need to be on lunchboxes.
You're not seeing the big picture.
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 9, 2011 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
You dick
Just gonna sum up what I said in two paragraphs in under 10 words. I fart in your general direction.
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
I hope it ruins the UFC and brings down MMA in the USA
Then we can go back to Pride rules and soccer kicks.
That means no elbows.
:(
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 9, 2011 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
In a perfect world we would have knees, soccer kicks, and elbows. But I would probably trade elbows for the other two.
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 7:37 AM EST up reply actions
This is fucking ridiculous
I think rape is one of the most horrible crimes you can commit, but he didn’t say “Rape is awesome” … and it was clearly meant to be a joke! I swear, some people just like finding things to get offended about.
It was CLEARLY a fucking joke. I don't do the whole "twitter and facebook"
Shit just because of stupid shit like this. People just need a reason to start drama or start a ‘hot topic’. I bet more offensive shit than this gets said on the daily. This does not warrant all the attention it’s already gotten.
People sure do love to jump the gun.
You see horrible, racist and extreme comments on youtube all the time, simply flag them or thumbs down their comment and get on with your day. It happens a million times a day. But since this is Forrest Griffin, an MMA celebrity then people want to punish him and burn him. Forrest is definitely not a guy who regards his fame and takes it seriously, nobody should get butt hurt, just unfollow the guy and sum up the fact that you don’t like the guy and go on with your day. Welcome to the real world.
It might not be smart to represent yourself like that when your job is in the middle of a huge deal, but fox isn’t gonna cancel everything because Forrest Griffin is being Forrest Griffin.
by MaximumWatermelon on Nov 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST reply actions
You amerricans are funny and weird sometimes
I think Forrest problem might be being above average IQ
Ridiculous and you know it
Completely poor timing and inappropriate allusion.
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George Carlin did a particularly classic joke about rape. It’s literally a comedy trope at this point. I find it more offensive that the joke wasn’t funny than the fact it was actually said.
Comedians say worst stuff all the time. It’s not like Forrest Griffin is advocating rape. Anyone who has seen a decent amount of shock comedy would say the same.
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 6:14 AM EST up reply actions
I got this from the Rape as Comedy page on TV Tropes, so it may or may not be completely accurate.
They say: “You can’t joke about rape! Rape is not funny!” I say fuck you! I think it’s hilarious, how do you like that? I can PROVE to you that rape is funny! Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd! Well, why do you think they call him “Porky”?
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by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 7:13 AM EST up reply actions
I find it odd that people get really mad at this kind of stuff when there is a crazy dog slaughterer playing quarterback for an NFL franchise and no one is really saying shit.
Outside of Lee Murray and Joe Son, there are a lot more football players being actually charged with crimes. Fuck, the Bengals at one point had a guy going to jail every other week.
You essentially answered your own question
They’re being charged with crimes, and in a lot of instances successfully prosecuted. That’s accountability through the legal system. All we’re asking for is some accountability through the internal business practices of the UFC and Zuffa.
That crazy dog slaughterer is still a scumbag. He also went to prison. Lee Murray is rotting in a Moroccan pit somewhere, Joe Son is imprisoned for life without parole.
Accountability. It’s pretty simple.
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I’m personally more offended by criminals being allowed to play in the NFL than Forrest Griffin making a lame rape joke. So what kind of punishment do you suggest?
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 7:01 AM EST up reply actions
It doesn’t. None of this truly offends me because I’m not over sensitive. IF these things did offend me, I would be more offended by criminals playing in the NFL over Forrest Griffin making stupid jokes on twitter.
by discoandherpes on Nov 9, 2011 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
I think a public apology infront of a Women's Protection group is enough
With the way fighter contracts are set up, I don’t think the UFC can fine any of its fighters, only withdraw any bonus money they might have given them post-fight (which supposedly what happened with Michael Bisping for his actions in the Jorge Rivera fight).
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That almost seems condescending, though.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 9, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I criticized Vick when he was charged, convicted, and accepted back into the NFL. I still voice that opinion any time he's brought up in conversation.
I’m criticizing Griffin now because he just did this recently.
Disqualifying people because they don’t keep a constant vigil on everything is unreasonable. It just looks like a cop-out tactic to duck the issue at hand.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Nov 9, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
All this talk is with the presumption that Forrest is still a fighter for the UFC. Lets face it, he didn’t exactly look interested in the Shogun and was humiliated pretty badly. And any 205er that is relevant would beat him easily. He just had a kid and might be on his way out.
This could be just a “any press is good press” stunt to gain attention for his comedy/writing (and i use those terms verrrrryyy loosely) career that is to follow.
Griffin can make any type of joke he wants.
Should he have done it? No.
Should he be pissed about the backlash? No, you represent a major company you should watch what you say so you don’t lose your job or get reprimanded.
Should he be punished? I don’t know, that’s the UFC’s prerrogative.
Is it a PR disaster if a mainstream media outlet picks it up and runs with it? Yes
Is damage control necessary? Depends on how proactive you want to be.
The “was it funny?” and “was it in poor taste?” questions I won’t get into. It’s very subjective, not everyone adheres to the same morals or has the same sense of humor. (IMO it wasn’t funny and it was in poor taste) That’s up to every individual to decide.
You'd think a husband and father of a newborn girl would know better than to broadcast that garbage
A lot of people here rreally need to be educated on how life destroying sexual abuse / rape really are. That shit haunts people until their dying days and people joking about it or playing it off like it’s just “Forrest being Forrest” aren’t helping defeat that same mentality that birthed this dogshit tweet in the first place.
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So has this gone anywhere besides Brent's piece?
I looked several places including EPSN and Yahoo’s MMA sections, and haven’t seen a thing. Though Yahoo has a timely piece on 1st amendment rights but no mention of Forrest.
Was this a overreaction on Brent’s part or is this the calm before the storm?
overreaction to an unfunny joke
Forrest should get a slap on the wrist for the sake of public appearances
by Cunny on Nov 9, 2011 10:03 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I read this and thought: GODDAMMIT MAN
Seriously, this could become a PR nightmare if not handled. I wasn’t really offended knowing how Forresr(although this is a topic that I personally think is something that shouldn’t be taken so lightly at all, but that’s just my opinion), and not everybody will be. However, some will be seriously and rightfully offended. This is terrible timing what with this next big push into the mainstream world of sports, not to mention the already difficult endeavor of getting MMA sanctioned in NY. He shoulda really thought about the circumstances, who he represents, and most importantly considered anyone who was unfortunately involved in such a thing.
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It was a joke
May not have been that funny, but just a joke. Maybe it wouldve been funnier to say he wants to rape bispings mom or something like that. Either way, I saw the Penn state scandal mentioned and yes they are both very similar in that people are making sports athletes/figures out to be gods and holding them to those standards. This is ridiculous and nobody should even care about either. Happens all the time. It’s bad, but it happens. It’s a joke not reality. Move on.
by TheWaker on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I want to see how this all truly unfolds. So far all I’ve read from the contributors of this website is a bunch of inflamitory hypothetical scenarios where the ufc stands to lose its momentum because of one tweet. This is sophistic garbage. Forrest has apologized and im sure will further clarify and conceed that it was a stupid thing to say. This is literally all that is needed to defuse the ‘controversy’ over an ill-thought-out comment. What we are arguing over is the way this should be handled. For those that want to turn the liberty which the ufc allows its athletes into a culture where expression is limited, then I dont agree with you. This situation should need no more than a sincere apology, which was given, to disarm hurt feelings and general public scorn.
by Dingo. on Nov 9, 2011 11:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Blaiming political correctness...
…is what jerks do when they don’t want to be remotely considerate and don’t like the idea of inclusive language.
by bigstupidsmile on Nov 9, 2011 1:10 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I scrolled down here to the bottom only to say I didn’t read a single one of the comments here.
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I just CTRL+F'd the word "banned" for the lulz
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
So you're an upcoming organization w/ not enough recognition? You say you got loot? Hmm, need some bait....
This is Marketing & Advertising at its best…‘ANY’ publicity is good publicity…
FOX should be tearing into this ( ratings BOOST!!)
by Tatsu Maki Sen Puu Kyaku on Nov 9, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions
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