Fedor Emelianenko vs. Cain Velasquez? Dana White Says 'Hell No'
by Fraser Coffeen on Nov 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST
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With his win over Jeff Monson in M-1 Global last weekend, Fedor Emelianenko got back in the winner's column after three straight Strikeforce loses. He also showed a somewhat modified approach to the game, with an emphasis on striking, gameplan, and, above all else, caution.
After the win, it was only natural that questions would surface about where Fedor goes from here. And, just as it has so many times before with Fedor, the idea of an Emelianenko run in the UFC surfaced. M-1 Global's Director of Operations Evgeni Kogan took to twitter and got the ball rolling by tweeting Dana White and calling out no less than former UFC Heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez:
@danawhite Fedor vs Velasquez in 2012, lets make this happen. Fedor is back, and a fight w/ Cain will prove it.
White's response, also via twitter, was simple, straightforward, and emphatic. When asked if the rumors of a possible Fedor/UFC deal were true, Dana replied simply:
hell no!!
Kogan is trying his best to make this sound like a possibility, noting their high attendance for the Fedor vs. Monson fight, and insisting that they would not be looking to co-promote, just to see this fight happen.
My take on it? Despite those loses, there is still a big appeal in seeing Fedor in the UFC. At this point, he will easily go down in the books as the biggest name of this era to never have a UFC fight, and that is a shame. I don't think he has the ability to seriously make a UFC Heavyweight title run (the mind shudders at the thought of Fedor vs. Junior dos Santos), and he's not a good match-up for the top young guns of the division, including Cain Velasquez. But I would be interested to see him against someone like Frank Mir, or even another go with Minotauro.
But will that happen? I wouldn't hold my breath.
Dana White tried to bring Fedor to the UFC before, and M-1 played hardball with the negotiations, making massive demands and asking a huge salary that Zuffa was unwilling to meet. At the time, they felt they could make those demands, as Fedor was the undefeated pound for pound king and clear #1 Heavyweight in the world. But those days are gone. And now, as M-1 comes knocking again, they are finding that their previous strong-arm tactics have come back to bite them. They refused to meet Dana on his terms before - don't be surprised to see Dana refuse to meet them now.
In the end, while there is some upside to a Fedor UFC run, it's not something that his career demands, nor is it something that will have a massive benefit to the UFC (unless they suddenly decide to run a card in Russia at some point). And so we may have to resign ourselves that the mythical Fedor run in the Octagon will forever remain a figment of our imagination.
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If this comes to fruition under the UFC banner will dress up like a giant leg and let Palhares chase me
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:06 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
^ I will dress up
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Better than dressing up like a giant foot and letting Vitor chase you.
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by POW on Nov 23, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Only if the costume is water proof
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
And suction proof.
What? You never know.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just glad he was able to come back to the UFC after he was fired from Footlocker.
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or a giant back of the head
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by brad23 on Nov 23, 2011 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ha was thinking the same thing
Don't be scared Gomi...
by ThatsHowIRoll on Nov 23, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yea this was a gigantic lol yesterday
I needed the laugh after this weekend’s football outcomes. Thanks Kogan for keeping it ludicrous
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 23, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions
For real
I love Fedor, but we all know that at this stage in the game, Cain would chew him up and spit him out. I’m content to see Fedor fighting other veteran heavyweights from his era on the free agent market.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see him smash Schaub, tussle with Kongo, maybe pummel Nog, etc.
I’m not too picky, I know.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
My initial reaction to Kogan's tweet
by KJ Gould on Nov 23, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They're just trying to PR this whole deal by stoking Dana.
They want a better deal with DREAM, I think.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Cash money up front, M1, cash money up front
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
where'd you get those pictures of me?
I swear I that is exactly what I did
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 23, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor missed his chance because of his poor management! But I wonder if he decided to move to 205 if that would be of interest to Dana. But I doubt he will ever move to 205.
And what chance is that?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fighting in the UFC!!! Not saying he would have won but Dana wanted him in the UFC for a time. After 3 losses, he lost his chance.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 23, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Brendan Schaub also fights in the UFC...
Your point is moot my fellow nuthugger.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Not trying to make a point! Just saying that his management company now wants him to fight in the UFC and his time has passed. He had a chance last year and his management company blew it. The only reason I wanted him to fight in the UFC is to see how he would do against the guys int he UFC. By not stretch am I saying he would of been champion or anything of the sort.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get the people who want Fedor to move down to 205
He already got first-round TKO’d by Hendo in what was essentially a light heavyweight bout that Fedor wasn’t forced to cut weight for. If Fedor weakens himself by cutting to 205 does anyone seriously pick him to beat any elite light heavyweight?
As a Fedor fan, the last thing I want to see is Jon Jones beating the hell out of him, Lyoto Machida making him look silly as he swings and misses his looping punches, or Rashad Evans outwrestling him for 15 minutes. That’s what would happen if he fought an elite light heavyweight. And if he’s going to fight the guys who aren’t elite, well, that’s what he’s already doing with M-1. So why sign with the UFC at all?
by MichaelDavidSmith on Nov 23, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Legitimacy.!
I have been drinking the Kool-Aid.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I never got the notion that Fedor would be best served by moving to a harder division.
by discoandherpes on Nov 23, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Even if he did move down to 205 there is 0 chance he would get a title fight. And I don’t think it would weaken him to move to 205. He has a lot of extra weight on him. I don’t think he is elite anymore but I would still like him to fight some of the better 205’ers.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 23, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
If Fedor moved out of his comfort zone
and really worked full time with elite instructors and training partners, and dropped to 205, I think he could be in the top 10.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I agree 100%. But I also feel there is zero chance of him getting out of his comfort zone as you put it. He is old school and the game has passed him by. At one time, his size and physique didn’t matter because he was more skilled. But everyone has up’ed there game except Fedor. In addition, his age is now a factor.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 23, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
These days, Fedor has a family, his own gym, and a newfound resurgence of faith all keeping him from leaving Stary Oskol. At 33, I’m completely fine with him taking some free agent fights against HW veterans of his own era. Maybe a fight against Rizzo next would be a solid matchup? I hear that Fedor vs. Ishii is in the works for Japan NYE
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yep and that is about all he can expect. It was good while it lasted.
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 23, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, his wife Marina is super hot.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they're a cute family
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
New wife Marina is waaay hotter.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
new wife is hotter (as they tend to be)
but old wife was pleasant looking and just seemed like a super nice lady. Here’s an old Fedor bio from Russian TV where she is interviewed. She comes off sweet as. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40fZBWFED2g
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by daftshadow on Nov 23, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Glory be to him
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 25, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Here you go
Reasons why people want to see Fedor move down in weight class
1- He has the height and reach of a MW
2- He lost 3 in a row at HW , including a brutal beating from Bigfoot who used his size to whoop that ass
3- It would be nice to see someone that talented actually show up for a fight in shape… and say what you will, but someone carrying that much body fat is not in their peak athletic condition, you can’t flex fat, and it doesn’t make you faster, or stronger.
4- While he has had success against bigger men before, modern top HW’s, many of them with tremendous wrestling credentials, are big enough and athletic enough to erase the advantage that Fedor had- being a faster more agile fighter.
by Clark Griswald on Nov 23, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, now that is a well written summary of why Fedor should move down!
by Fedornuthugger on Nov 23, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
well....(thanks)
if he wants to keep fighting, which apparently he does, I think fighting guys his own size would be a good move. I’d personally rather see hypothetical match-ups like Shogun, Rampage, Anderson Silva, Rashad, Phil Davis etc… than see him give up 40 pounds of muscle to JDS, Cain, or give up 60 lbs of muscle to guys like Brock, Ubereem or Shane.
It is AMAZING that Fedor beat all the guys that he beat when he had the *lean body mass of a MW and he was fighting at HW…. but he is not in his 20’s anymore and not in my opinion, athletic enough to overcome that obstacle 30+ fights and 10+ years into his MMA career at 35 years old.
I think he still has fight in him, and there are fights I’d like to see. Hypothetically, I’d like to see those fights against solid UFC 205ers. Non UFC HW and LHW competition is not even worth discussing. He, in theory… could win 2 more fights against cans, get in actual fighting shape (<15% body fat) and negotiate a reasonable contract and fight in the UFC before he was too old….
I’m not gonna hold my breath.
by Clark Griswald on Nov 23, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor has a better chance of being invited to take part in Bellator's next HW tournament
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That would actually be really awesome. He could DESTROY Konrad.
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by TheLastEmpress on Nov 23, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I love Fedor
there’s a 99.999999% chance that Konrad just takes him down and submits him easily via sea of flesh
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The most Lovecraftian way to die
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And besides, when was the last time Fedor faced a full-on wrestler?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
And he's more of a greco kind of guy and look how dicey it got for him.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor by Rope Grab
It definitely had an effect when Lindland had double underhooks and was looking for a throw.
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Yeah.
That fight was the one shot Matt had, I think. Not that I think he’d have done more with it, but that the doctor would’ve stoppe dthat shit ASAP seeing Fedor’s massive cut.
But alas, Fedor did his trick, reversed, and went to work on poor Matt who is now being sued for weed, and shit.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Konrad is no Werdum. He might get Fedor on his back, but I doubt that he would be able to submit him.
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by TheLastEmpress on Nov 23, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Just pound him out using mixing the power of youthful lard.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
If he's been coached by Erik Paulson and Greg Nelson
He can submit Fedor using the Smother’s Milk sub.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 23, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That sounds disgusting...
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh Feeding the Baby
So nasty.
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
That was more of a joke than anything
but I have no doubt in my mind that Konrad would lay on Fedor for the entire fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Fedor could rip off an armbar on Konrad.
Lots of belly in that fight for sure.
by discoandherpes on Nov 23, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Fedors hips aren’t what they used to be.
I don’t think he has the explosiveness anymore to pull off armbars from out of nowhere. I think it is far more likely that Konrad takes him down and sits on him for 25 minutes.
By sit you mean envelop, right?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Fedor in the middle and a butt cheek on either side of him.
by Steve4192 on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
How much did "Long Duck Dong" weigh when Fedor fought him?
I guess Konrad is more condensed though.
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
A thousand.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Hong Man has no ground game.
Konrad does.
And Fedor is four years older/slower than he was back in 2007.
I was just curious because Fedor was basically stuck when he was laid on by him
It was like Baby Huey laying on Tweety Bird
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Unrelated, but the phrase "sea of flesh" reminded me.
My friend was telling me how a family member asked for computer assistance. My friend went to go fix this computer, only to see that Internet Explorer was open, and that one of the tabs was a video entitled “sea of mouths”. He hasn’t looked at this family member the same way since.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I can picture Konrad sloshing around while Fedor pummels him
Gross.
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Not happening
Dana hasn’t reached the level of shrewdness where even if he hates someone he would still be willing to work with them so long as he makes a profit.
by Little Star Guy on Nov 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST reply actions
Lorenzo has.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Fedors asking price ≠ profit
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What's his asking price?
I’ve never seen real numbers since his move to SF.
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by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
His management knows they can't argue for that kind of deal again.
I’m amazed at the amount of internet managers and economist who are for sure saying that their asking price i stoo steep just right out of the gate.
Whatever deal he inks with DREAM will be a good baseline for how likely it is for him to fight again stateside.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor could get a fight with Cheick Kongo if he’s lucky.
by sexysassytravismmafan on Nov 23, 2011 1:14 PM EST reply actions
After NYE, I think we'll have more of a complete picture.
Dana says a bunch of shit all the time, but now is the more likely time for them to sign Fedor. I mean, they clearly have a thinned heavyweight picture and way worse fighters than him on their roster with not as much clout (Schaub, Barry, Nog, maybe Nelson, Rothwell, the dude that knocked Duffee the fuck out, etc).
If Fedor handles Ishii, you can bet your ass they will at least give it some thought depending on how much he asks for. Whether His management played hardball or not in the past hardly amounts to anything other than Dana keeping a grudge which, let’ sbe honest, is hardly anything definitive these days.
It’s still a longshot, though.
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"the dude that knocked Duffee the fuck out"
Which one? Overeem or that fat guy?
by DecipleofMagus on Nov 23, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
That Fat Guy.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Any excuse for this:
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by Chris Hall on Nov 23, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Duffy made history twice in his young career.
Fastest UFC KO and most embarrassing UFC KO. I hope the guy gets his shit in line and becomes a world beater.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
He's been training with Michael Jai White these days
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Jai White's
a fucking Hoss though. I’d love to see a mindless action flick with Vin Diesel, The Rock, Jason David Frank and Michael Jai White. I’d watch the fuck out of that.
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Add Scott Adkins
and it would be the “Expendables” of fight-flicks.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
but I’d love to see it.
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 23, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
It's super funny
he’s basically just like “Throw straighter punches. It works better.” And then demonstrates it.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 25, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
That video is pure awesomesauce
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swan diving off the tongues of crippled giants
by Grappo on Nov 23, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Damn that’s cute!
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 23, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
There is no whether about it
Fedor’s management has played hardball with every company they’ve dealt with going back to Pride.
Because they could. Now they can't.
It’s all about the asking price now. Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point we heard about talks with Zuffa around spring of next year.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
They would though and that's why Dana still doesnt want to be in business with them
Let’s say Dana signed Fedor, sure they might be willing to “play the game” now but the moment he gets a win or 2 all of a sudden M-1 isnt going to like the terms of the contract. Same shit happened with Affliction and Strikeforce, the only difference is Dana White wouldnt cave in to the demands.
Then they can just not book him and call it a day.
They still get more than what they put in, in the first place.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not really
Him coming in, knocking off a few of your guys, and then refusing to fight for your company doesnt help the UFC at all.
That's a solid argument.
He’s too washed out but not enough that he’ll just get mowed down.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
How so?
Don’t put him up against vulnerable prospects. Guys like Big Nog aren’t going to make a championship run, why not put him up against Fedor for a nostalgia fight that will make some PPV bucks? If Fedor wins and then refuses to fight, how does that hurt the UFC?
Honest question, do we know how Fedor performs on PPV?
by discoandherpes on Nov 23, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
You have the Affliction shows
But those numbers would be different given this would be the UFC (higher) and his much diminished reputation (lower).
I think as a co-main event, he’d pull more than his weight in PPV and live gate, especially if it was in Japan.
Well by the sound of it, Fedor’s camp is still looking for top guys and not “nostalgia” fights.
Second as far as it hurting the UFC, it probably doesnt hurt them but it doesnt help them to put money and resources into a guy who may or not be willing to fight for your company after the fight.This isnt new. Why do you think Bob Arum has gone strictly in house for Pacquaio opponents?
I agree, he is in no way ready for Cain. Then again, he probably have the same or better shot than Kongo, who Cain called out.
It helps them for that fight. True, you’d rather build up guys that you know are going to fight for you in the future, but it’s not automatic that money promoting a one-fight guy is money wasted.
If Fedor signed a standard Zuffa contract
there would be nothing M-1 could do until it expired. If it was for five fights, they would have to deal with the same pay and conditions for five straight fights. He would be signed exclusively worldwide, so if they tried any strong-arm tactics Fedor would just have to sit on the shelf. Dana isn’t nervous, I believe he just wants nothing to do with Fedor and M-1 Global.
If I am Dana White, I look at Fedors ranking, and offer him a deal like the one Cheick Kongo has, since they are similar and rank. If he takes it, then he makes money for the UFC and is a potential draw.
If Fedor gets to the UFC and fights someone like Mir, Carwin, Nog, or a Roy Nelson and just gets lit up – then White can say he told you so – I don’t see the downside
They'll still want too much money
They’re bonkers.
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Most sensible thing I've read so far.
If they don’t deal with Fedor and Vadim, it’ll be b/c the asking price is too steep.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Then make the offer public, use Twitter and social media, and force Fedor’s hand.
It won’t be until next year anyway so if he wins on his NYE show, depending on how things play out, he could end up with a top ten ranking – offering a deal based on his ranking, makes sense and if they turn it down, he can simply say they are crazy.
White can show that Fedor got blasted by a MW like Hendo as well.
Yes.
But seeing Fedor still trucking guys would kind of put a clout in Zuffa given how they have way less talented hws to choose from.
Those Hendo highlights will come in handy a lot in the future if Fedor fails at losing.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
If Nog loses, that is the first fight I would give him – then see what comes of Barnett, those fights are nostalgic draws and make a lot of money – and they can offer Fedor less, not making him the main event. Crocop could be another option if he is willing to fight again.
If Fedor has a resurgence or is willing to fight at 205, fights with guys like Rua, Lawal, or Rampage could make a lot of sense – there would be a lot of big fights and money to be made
Yup
I would have avoided saying the same thing if I had just kept reading the posts further down. UFC signing Fedor wouldn’t be a bad thing.
$4k show, $4k win
Start off on Facebook prelims. 1-3 in your last 4 fights, that’s what you get.
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by KJ Gould on Nov 23, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's Ronda money!
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
What if he drops a weight class?
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
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Instant title shot
Obviously.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Against Miesha Tate, obviously.
Just imagine the disaster of Fedor beating Jon Jones. 90% unlikely, but so not worth the risk.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
the Kenny Florian clause...
Don't be scared Gomi...
by ThatsHowIRoll on Nov 23, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's not about the guy's abilities which are still considerable in the vein of Schaub still being employed by the UFC.
It’s about his management.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
well 1-3 isn't the greatest record to enter the UFC with
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Nor is a three fight losing skid the greatest record to still be employed there and look at Dan Hardy.
Fedor puts exciting fights most of the time, also.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
But but but
Lorenzo likes guys that WAR!
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DAMN THAT'S RIGHT!!!
Wait…Fedor does that too…okay, he did that before he started sorta thinking again…
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
*W*hite *A*nglo-Saxon b*R*itish
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no you didn't!!!
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
or Matt Brown
I totally agree with you, but 1-3 plus being on Dana’s shit list gives you no ground to stand on, while Dan Hardy (somehow) draws PPV buys. If M-1 were out of the picture, I think Dana might be more open to negotiate. As a fan, I really think Fedor should be in the UFC…as a realist I understand that $$ makes the world go around. That said, if enough people want to see Fedor in the UFC (and pay for that to happen in PPV buys), Dana would change his mind.
Again, get Kogan/M-1 out of the picture and it’s a completely different story.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Four of Hardy’s last five fights were on free fight nights. It’s hard to make an argument that they’re pushing him as a PPV seller.
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How about 32-4?
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
great record
don’t mistake my observation as anti-Fedor, I really think he is a top fighter that should be in the UFC.
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No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
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Wanderlei Silva is confused
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
That “He got beat by a middleweight line.” is such condescending bullshit. It lessens what Hendo accomplished.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And was supposedly reaffirmed at UFC 139.
But I guess Rua is such a shit fighter that we all saw that coming, eh?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Rua sucks. He got beat by some middleweight.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I knew it!
Fucking luuuuuuuuser…
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
RJK256
if he beats Ishii after having beaten Monson, how would it give him a top ten ranking?
DW would sign Fedor if its a longterm contract for a reasonable price (without M1 obv)
But theres no point in improving Fedors stock if he cant cash in on wins. Time has shown that DW is a businessman first, and is willing to forget grudges if it helps his business.
It feel like deja vu all over again with the Fedor to UFC rumors from 2 years ago
I’m not sure how Fedor is “back” after one fight over a guy like Monson. Who’s the best available non-zuffa HW out there?? Match him up against that guy and we’ll maybe see
Daniel Cormier? They both fucked up Monson good, escept Fedor did it more brutally (a broken leg is nothing to scoff at).
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cormier is with Strikeforce (still has to fight Josh Barnett) - still owned by Zuffa.
by BrandtShaft! on Nov 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
What if he loses to Barnett? They gotta look at all their options.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
id like to see Fedor retire
or fight barnett
I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.
Fedor wants Cung Le money and we all know he isn’t as capable a fighter as Le
by Afrotikiman on Nov 23, 2011 1:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions 7 recs
If you ask me the UFC got Le at a bargain
He is the GOAT and all-time Oscar winner record holder after all.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, well played
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Go to the doctor. That obvious head injury is becoming an issue.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Just because they don't want co promotion doesn't mean they don't want other crazy demands
like a one and done deal for instance. They already want the fight in Russia.
I'd like to see Fedor fight Big Nog in June on the Brazil Card
Never been a fan but i think there could still be some interesting fights for him
I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones
I’d like to see it on the Japan card.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cain Valasquez via TKO (Punches)
You can tell alot about a person just by reading their sig.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Nov 23, 2011 1:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Fedor needs to follow Overeem's example and get out of bad contracts
at all costs.
I see Dana’s point, why bargain with Vadim at all?
But as a fan I want to see Fedor in the UFC, and possibly at 205.
If BJ Penn, Randy Couture, and Dan Henderson can back in the UFC after all they did contract/negotiation-wise, Dana can find it in his heart to get Fedor in…minus M-1/Finklestein.
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No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
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Honest question, why would you want to see Fedor at 205?
by discoandherpes on Nov 23, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
B/c he has the frame of a 205er, that's why.
He was never a true heavyweight, really.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But he’ll have more success at heavyweight than light heavyweight. The fighters at 205 are much better overall than heavyweights.
by discoandherpes on Nov 23, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
He could still put a pounding on Forrest, though.
Maybe Shogun, too…
And I’d be interested in seeing him against Hendo if he doesn’t go and stupidly brawls with him. All are fights that he can win, I think.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor vs Hendo? I think it might play out like this:
"Hi. I don't know you." - me
"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva
Srsly?
Fedor can strike better than he did in that match, and it wan’t like Hendo completely outclassed the guy. The fight turned into a brawl and Hendo won—the end.
Maybe Hendo puts him to sleep again, but I’d still watch it with vested interest.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not so sure Fedor has improved all that much since their last fight.
He just fought a terrible striker in Monson and had his way with him. I can’t think of any good reason to match these two up, even in a fantasy world where Fedor signs with the UFC and agrees to cut to 205.
"Hi. I don't know you." - me
"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva
Yep, rematches are over-rated
unless there’s something new on the line, like a title. There needs to be some reason to rematch them other than ‘we want to see it’. Give it a little time and let it brew.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
The real story here is evgeni kogans twitter pictures.....
…nearly the entire lot of them are creepish shots of hot girls in skimpy outfits. I’m sure they are ring girls or potential ring girls…..but still….
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
That's what he gets paid in
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Pics. Now.
Or links, at least…
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, guys: Get your creep on:
Is that Dana White on the left? You know, the guy with the Jacob’s Ladder-look on his face.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Okay that's like, the only semi normal picture, despite it having two hot girls in there....
Link to his pictures:
https://twitter.com/#!/evgenikogan/media/grid
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
No mention of the Dana doppleganger there?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
That's actually kind of crazy
Because it does look like him, and they WOULD blur out his face if he was….
His hands are too fat to be Dana’s though, IMO
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
Allergic reaction to bills smallert han $100?
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Or a terrible flashback to his bell-hopping days.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Also: Fine taste.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Guy looks like Robin Leach
"Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes" Groucho Marx
by KimboLeopoldo on Nov 23, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
nice jacob’s ladder reference
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 23, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Problem is Fedor needs to beat some names to prove he’s worth being the UFC and worth the money they’d want. Trouble is there are no “names” out of the UFC aside from Sylvia, Arlovski, Duffee and Monson. He’s probably going to keep fighting guys like that in Moscow to wind out his career.
Remember Nog, Hunt, Rothwell, Barry, Schaub, Nelson, and maybe Mir? Fedor is likely to beat all those guys on a given night.
“Worth” has nothing to do with it.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Worth it from their standpoint. Sure he’d beat a lot of the heavyweights in the UFC, but do we know he’d beat a guy like Mir at this point? The UFC can get by quite fine without a mid-level heavyweight. He needs to prove he’s back in the top 10, which is damned tough to do. Best case scenario for Fedor is that Barnett wins the SFHWGP and doesn’t sign with the UFC, instead choosing to fight Fedor.
That's a catch-22
Fedor needs to beat someone with a name where there’s noone with a name.
It is pointless to beat anyone outside of the Zuffa umbrella to try to get there based on relevancy.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Fedor
With that shit
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
by DayGeaux on Nov 23, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I didn't know Kogan was Fedor!
SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY I AM LEARNING HERE.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's badass time.
You just don’t understand how much work it takes to achive that level of internets.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I've never seen them in a room together at the same time.
Editor at Blistered Thumbs
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Being a realist makes you a "hater" evidently.
by MicahtheCynic on Nov 23, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
...
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
Tumblr stuff is blocked at work
But I assume it’s fanart of you and I embracing on the beach in the sunset.
I’ll be in my bunk.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree with the idea that he doesn’t have the ability to hang with the top HW’s. He definitely has the ability, he lacks the training. Fedor’s ground game was once tops, so much so that he hung with Nog on the ground and has so many submission wins. That game has rusted and needs to be sharpened. His lack of top level modern training, and for some reason his inability to perform well in a cage, is what made his Strikeforce run so poor. It can be remedied, only if he puts in the effort.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i dont think that a top level training camp is the only thing stopping fedor from being relevant again
his speed was what really made him such a great fighter and it looks like thats just about gone. sure if he were to sharpen up some technical holes he might be able to pull a run like randy had at the end of his career when he beat vera, coleman, and toney but i just find it hard to imagine him beating guys like cormier, velasquez, a healthy brock, a healthy carwin, overeem, barnett and of course JDS
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"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
His speed has been the same. He became predictable and one dimensional. He trains almost exclusively kickboxing and I’ve never seen him train in a cage. He could beat just about every fighter you mentioned if he applied himself to today’s game.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn’t touch Fedor with a 10 foot pole. M-1 loves to renegotiate the contract after every win and make everything as difficult as possible. You’re doing to have to a bit more than beat Jeff Monson to interest Dana in taking on a guaranteed headache.
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Dana's bussiness counselor, is that you?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently SHO knew how to write a contract that put a lid on M-1’s nonsense, something I don’t think Coker was capable of. But, I’m certain that the UFC would be able to replicate SHO’s success in dealing with them.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Nov 23, 2011 4:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bring Randy back!
Fedor vs Couture… still appealing even if its years too late?
I would still watch that fight
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 23, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still interested
I think it’s a good style match up and they’re both crafty.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Nov 23, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
If you are into vivisections.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 23, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
fedor vs mir would be cool
so would fedor vs some of the older 205ers at a catch weight like forrest griffin, lil nog, tito ortz, or rich franklin
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Yeah
There’s definitely some fun Senior Circuit fights for him, but I just don’t see any of this happening.
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I never thought I'd say this:
I could not give less of a fuck if Fedor was in the UFC.
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It must be a delightful city and possess all the attractions of the next world" - Oscar Wylde
why the fuck not?
there’s nobody out of the ufc and strikeforce that can give him a competitive fight.
cole konrad and him would have a close fight
it’d be terrible to watch, but it’d be close
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Knowing Dana
He would probably make Fedor go through the TUF house.
"You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, Designed and directed by his red right hand"
by brad23 on Nov 23, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, that’s just about the only way you’d get me to watch TUF.
"Hi. I don't know you." - me
"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva
It would be like the odd couple
But with one half of the couple being a stoic, slightly pudgy Russian who eats all of the houses icecream, and the other half being 15 loud tattooed American guys.
"You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, Designed and directed by his red right hand"
Perhaps..
Kimbo and James Toney could join him?
Hendo is one of the few guys that left the UFC on his terms, and came back on the same, if not better terms.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 23, 2011 3:46 PM EST reply actions
The Fedor myth has been debunked.
Would it be cool to see him in the UFC? Yeah. Sure. But am I dying to see him in the UFC? Nah. Do I particularly care? Yeeeeeaaaaa-no.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
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But there are a few hundred thousand other people out there that would still be interested. So the myth is over, big deal. It’s not like he’s Ken Shamrock or Kimbo, guys who absolutely can’t cut it. What reason can you give that he shouldn’t be in the UFC?
Just so we get this out of the way before I’m accused of clutching testicles or angry-typing: I’m just wondering what your reasons are for not wanting to see him in the UFC. Also, there was just a bit more Yeah, than No at the end.
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I have no reasins for why or why not. I just don’t care personally. That said, I’m sure many other people do care. If he fights in the UFC, great, I’ll enjoy it since I think he can compete with anyone, even the top guys. If he doesn’t, I am not losing any sleep over it.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
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Fraser’s got the details here wrong. They’re not suggesting that Fedor return to UFC. In a post-fight interview, Vadim proposed a Cain vs. Fedor fight for Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow. Kogan is just taking what Vadim said and applying it to his own dumbass twitter campaign to annoy everyone in MMA. So any analysis of the possibility of UFC signing Fedor is off the mark and Fraser should probably read the M-1 published piece “Dirty Politics” which is where the offer from Vadim to do a stadum show in Moscow originated.
Obviously bs by M1
But, I admit, I’d love to see Fedor fight in the UFC, if only in hopes of a storybook return to grace. Imagine that story? Long-time p4p king hits the skids and returns to the top? Kind of like the Henderson story currently, except Fedor was much more well-regarded in his prime and Hendo never hit the skids quite like the Russian.
"Speaks well of a man to need a little something in this world. I wouldn't trust a man who could git through it cold sober."
--Harry Crews
Even if you accept him in the M-1 guys will not make it easy.
God forbid he finds some success in the UFC then they’ll try the crap they did with StrikeForce where they kept renegotiating the deal and stuff.
Comes off as a total act of desperation by M-1 Global
Hindsight is 20/20…not taking that UFC deal to fight Lesnar in 09 was dumb.
They turned down crazy money. Demanding co-promotion, this and that etc.
Now they are doing their best to get Fedor in the UFC at all.
"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz
m-1 had their chance last year to have fedor fight under the ufc umbrella but they blew it
and you don’t really get second chances with mister white
Example
Fedor used to be the really hot girl that flirted with you, you thought you were in but then she broke your heart. Now that shes fat and desperate, she wants your attention.
There’s a part of you that still wants to fuck her, but the spite is overwhelming so you tell her to fuck off.
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