UFC 139 Results: Dan Henderson Wins Decisions Over Shogun Rua In An Absolute Classic
by Matthew Roth on Nov 19, 2011 11:52 PM EST
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Dan Henderson won a Unanimous Decision over Mauricio Rua at UFC 139. All three judges scored the fight 48-47 for Henderson. The fight will go down as one of the best fights of all time, regardless of combat sport. It was Henderson's return to the UFC after a stint in Strikeforce and Rua's eighth fight in the octagon.
This is one of those fights where no recap can truly do it justice. There are no words to describe the heart that both men displayed over 25 minutes. Henderson landed several heavy shots and had Rua hurt on multiple occasions. Rua had him in some very bad positions and had Henderson out on his feet in the fourth round after a combination of uppercuts and hooks.
The story will be that both of these men survived some terrible positions to fight from bell to bell. Fans and media have long called for five round non title fights and tonight's fight is why. When two fighters lay it all on the line the fans are treated to what ended up being one of the best fights of all time.
Dan Henderson picks up the win and possibly a shot at a title. Dana White has hinted that Hendo could challenge Anderson SIlva for the middleweight belt. Rua walks away with the loss but likely won't lose any momentum with fans and the UFC.
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I had it 47-47. How is the 5th not 10-8? Good Lord.
by FlyByKnight on Nov 19, 2011 11:53 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
in complete agreement with 47-47
I say forget the Silva fight. Book Hendo v Rua 2. Great fight card. It is too bad that Hendo v.Rua wasnt the Fox fight. Imagine that fight on national tv. Great night for mma.
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by whardiek on Nov 20, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that was a 10-8 as well
but I’m still fine with Dan taking the decision, last round both men were gassed as hell. Shogun should have tried some sub attempts, I was yelling at my TV as to why he wasn’t, I wasn’t really surprised at the decision win for Hendo.
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Decision Dan returns!!!! Seriously, that was fucking stupid. Great fight, but….fuck. Just….fuck.
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 19, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
8-10
Comes to 47 all. Should have been a draw.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ohhhh.
Disappointed about the judging. That makes more sense.
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i had it 47-46 Hendo
10-9, 10-9, 10-8, 9-10, 8-10
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by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Nov 20, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The third round couldn't have been a 10-8 if he got beat at some point, and he did, didn't he?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
getting a knockdown & doing big damage to a near-finish is enough for me.
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by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
But it should have been
10-9
10-9
10-8
9-10
8-10
So Dan Henderson still would have won
Oh!
I thought you were referring to the fight. Yeah I honestly had the 1st 3 rounds for Dan and the last 2 for shogun, round 5 being a 10-8. I believe Henderson had a 10-8 round as well. I was hoping for a draw but I knew Hendo would get the decision. Excellent fight though.
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
You’re actually disappointed?
by TheSoundOfHockey on Nov 19, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
By the decision, not the fight. The fight was fucking awesome. I just have a tendency to throw furniture when Shogun gets screwed.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, gotcha! I was hoping for a draw.
by TheSoundOfHockey on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
By which he means when Shogun loses
I agree that 48-47 probably wasn’t the best score, but there’s no shame in this loss
Who cares?
Was at the fight live and it was AMAZING!!!!!!!!
Rematch.
I paid a good amount to see this fight live, and I would gladly pay even more to see the rematch, Epic card.
I had it a draw, but as a fan of both these guys, I ain't mad. Also, huge props to the excellent reffing.
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So did I. How was that last round not a 10-8?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
the only way i can see it, it that Shogun didnt do alot of damage in the 5th. henderson avoided a majority of the blows and nothing powerful landed. part he ran a grappling clinic but it was the grappling equiv of dominating a round with a jab.
i scored it 10-8 though
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by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Nov 20, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Shogun had 100% of the offense in that round
That’s a 10-8 by definition
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just playing devils advocate
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"I said ‘let me tell you, you’re one punch away from being worth zero’ and I was wrong, he was one triangle choke away from being worth zero." - Dana on Fedor
by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Shogun landed some heavy shots from the mount, at least heavy enough to cause Hendo to turtle up multiple times. Sure he wasn’t close to ending the fight but the mount position and the huge accumulation of GNP are more than enough to get him a 10-8.
I think Hendo not getting a 10-8 for the 3rd was a worse mistake.
I don't know. Shogun ran a ground clinic on Henderson.
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only die hard Rua fan have it a draw
It was the wrong score because the third round was clearly 10 – 8 for Henderson. God. I just absolutely hate it when Rua fights. His fans are just the most awful people I have seen. Just like those annoying Fedor fans. They just don’t give the other guy credit. I am glad this was not a draw. If it was scored a draw you all would be complaining that Rua won it!
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by SheepleBuster on Nov 20, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's Back!!!
We thought you were dead
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if dead means banned
Then yes- we all thought SB was dead
by Connoisseur on Nov 20, 2011 7:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Epic fight
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 19, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Wtf is this?
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A lady with a muthafuckin' light saber.
And she mad.
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by pud333 on Nov 19, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Think I got 74 this event…. Guessing we had some high scores this card
by Afrotikiman on Nov 19, 2011 11:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nice
I topped out at 70
I'm not as drunk as pdl
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i thought it was a draw as well.
but whatever, I’m happy Henderson won.
Also, by the end of this fight, even I was exhausted.
THIS FIGHT WAS SO GOOD
THIS WAS MY FACE
Also it should have been 47-46 Hendo
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 19, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
that srsly looks just like my kitteh
by Connoisseur on Nov 20, 2011 7:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
PRIDE rised from the ashes tonight. How I wish that this Shogun was the one who showed up against Bones
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It was the same Shogun
Bones is just that good
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by Joben on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yeah
that was the same Shogun, the old Shogun is long gone. he gets hit and he just stands there covering, back in the days he was much more reckless and it helped him much more.
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Jesus I couldn't believe him standing there covering up
But he landed some serious counters out of that
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yeah
but Dan connected with a lot of power punches out of that, everytime he went for the uppercut I almost had a heartattack hehe, I’m so spent after that fight :p
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Agreed on all counts
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Nobody's going to comment on "rised"?
by Hummus5989 on Nov 20, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I want to thank the ref for not stopping it early like the Wand cung Le fight
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 19, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You couldn't see cung at all from that angle
No way to say whether or not it was a bad call. Also, he was getting smashed in the face.
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Bad stoppage
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
From what evidence
You couldn’t see his body at all. All you could see was a failed weak single and his hands let go of it before the call.
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Was Feijao/King DOH! a bad stoppage?
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Then this one was fine too.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
It would have prolonged the end
Good stoppage but you might not have seen all the cameras
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 20, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention, Cung’s legs weren’t moving. He wasn’t going for a takedown. He was trying to survive. That’s a good point to stop a fight. That’s why I made the King Mo/Feijao reference. Similar situation.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 4:20 AM EST up reply actions
and the back of the head
he didn’t exactly leap up to protest it either
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
I thought so at first too, but again you couldn’t see if his head turned or anything either. I just want to see that other camera angle.
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Cung wasn't finishing that takedown
Or even committed to it. He was just holding Wand’s leg. Watch Cung’s legs, they’re crossed the wrong way for any kind of defensive maneuver. He was not intelligently defending himself.
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They showed a replay from a different angle
Le was NOT gonna finish that TD and Wandy was raining all Hell on him. Maybe a few seconds early, but may as well spare Le the brain damage.
two years in a row i am live for FOTY.
That was fucking incredible i am still in shock.
Wow
penis head kick me...
by Earl Montclair on Nov 19, 2011 11:57 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
You lucky duck. I hate you.
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by pud333 on Nov 19, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
To qoute the great Jimmy McNulty from The Wire
What the fuck did I do?
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You were live for Sonnen/Silva too?
You’re officially the luckiest man alive if that’s the case
How did you teleport to Bellator?
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Yep. My sentiments exactly.
Something in the water out here, first 117 now 139. Unreal.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Nov 20, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
I gotta move to the muthafukin bay.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 20, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
These men having taken so many career ending shots
that just being in the same room as either of them can cause birth defects in adults.
by Warbreezy on Nov 19, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
<3
EXCELLENT fucking fight.
I gained a whole new respect for Mauricio Shogun Rua. My god he is tough
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 19, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions
I scored it as a draw.
If Shogun won the last round, and he pretty much controlled and beat Hendo while the latter mounted ZERO offense, how could they not score it a 10-9?
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if
We could ever get so luck as to have such a epic fight like that on fox.
It could truly be the jump off point that everyone wantsThat was 15 million viewers fight imo.
He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were
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This.
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by a tommy point on Nov 20, 2011 12:00 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
Babycake!
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by a tommy point on Nov 20, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Yummy
babies taste like chicken
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Chicken cake?
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Chicken baby cake
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Dude, what the--
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Just...why?
Why would you even make a cake like that?
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Terrible childhood?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Cuz it's funny
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, Diaz/Noons 1 was funny
That’s just weird.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
ACH! I fucking hate that gif.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
You know you want a slice.
It’s the only thing that can help us come down from the high we all just experienced.
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by a tommy point on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
It was a draw.
Great fight, but it’s an insult to all fighters that the judges don’t know a 10-8 round when they see one.
I don't smoke, but I need a cig after all that.
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Press conference
going to be on UFC site? I don’t usually watch until the next day but this should be a good one.
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everyone is in the hospital lol
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by Orcus on Nov 20, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The Medical Suspensions
on this card are gonna be insane.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Nov 20, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna repeat what I said on Facebook
Like the Battle of Kursk in miniature.
"Nothin' wrong with an ass whuppin' every now and then. You take away the ass whuppin's and what do you get? You get people wearin' pants below their belly buttons. I'm tellin' you, you go out these days and see the crack of a young lady's butt. It's crazy, man. They should be locked up for indecent exposure. Look here. See? Suspenders! And a belt! I ain't takin' no chances."
Does that make Hendo Russian?
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Nov 20, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
This was a goddamn MAN FIGHT
I am a bit bias, totally thought Shogun won. But at least it was a truly heroic performance from both fights.
After Penn/Diaz and now this, how crazy is it that the former strikeforce champs have put up back to back fight of the year performances.
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Nah
Hendo was winning the first half of the fourth round
Shogun won the second half of the 3rd round.
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I don't remember the rounds perfectly
But I may agree with this. One of the first two rounds could have also been a 10-8.
I had it
10-9 Hendo
10-9 Hendo
10-8 Hendo
10-9 Shogun
10-8 Shogun
Hendo was doing well enough in the first half of the 4th so it wasn’t a 10-8.
Hate to be that guy but Shogun’s time at the top is done. He came out completely slow and plodding since the start of the bell. The only thing he had to keep him going was his iron will, damn the guy is tough as they come.
Also, no way in hell should Hendo challenge Jones for the belt. This was an amazing fight, but Jon Jones would’ve destroyed both of them in the ring at the same time. An Anderson fight would be a far better fit for Hendo, even if it would probably end in the same manner as the first
The thing about Hendo is....
he could be fighting Darth fucking Vader, and one right hand could still change everything. I kinda want to see him against Jones just because he has that one Right Hand to Rule Them All.
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Naw, he’s that good. And he’ll get better.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
That's kind of an urban legend
Jones finished Shogun in the 3’rd, and finished Page in the 4’th round. The last time he really gassed was the Bonnar fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 20, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
but Jon Jones would’ve destroyed both of them in the ring at the same time
Get off of Bloody Elbow. No, seriously. Get out. Take your Jon Jones jammies with you. Wandy Claus is going to stomp your head for Christmas.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
lulz
I don’t give a fuck how bad you are, No one elite fighter would be able to beat 2 other elite fighters simultaneously, at least not if they’re all the same weight. With that being said, Lesnar would fucking grizzly smash Mighty Mouse, Dodson, and Mendes all at once though.
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
…so you actually took that part literally?
by savik on Nov 20, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Literal or no, it was fucking stupid.
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Dude, calm down. Seriously.
If you’re that upset by it, it helps to not fucking respond
by savik on Nov 20, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not upset. I'm saying the obvious. It was stupid.
Here’s some more obvious stuff:
The sky is blue.
(insert mom joke here)
The grass is green.
(insert a joke about your sister here. If you don’t have a sister, add in female family member of your choice)
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t think it was stupid. Funny how opinions work huh?
by savik on Nov 20, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Too bad the stupidity of the statement is a fact, not an opinion. :)
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Your opinion is stupid, and therefor invalid.
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Idk
Sarcasm, opinions and hyperbole sometime gets lost in the matrix of text and individual personality.
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
nope the would all three combine to put him in a ankle lock
mazagatti will call it to late and brocks ankle gets snapped
Gotta agree.
I didn’t like the fact that Shogun was able to take Hendo down so easily and so much on top of the fact that he was bigger than Dan yet was utterly dwarfed by Jones. I hate to say it but if Hendo did fight Jones, I think he might actually get stopped there by strikes.
Not sure if you guys watched the locker room stuff after the fight
But Hendo couldn’t catch his breath or walk on his own. He might have overexerted himself.
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I need to see a replay of this fight!!!!!
Should have been a draw but what else is new. It only makes sense this fight has some negative aspect to it, albeit a tiny one.
by Little Star Guy on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions
Holy shitballs that was one of the greatest fights I've seen.
FOTY
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions
So wish this was the FOX card
Wanderlei and this fight would inspire anyone
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Best Fight Ever
I don’t mind the decision
ahh Skeletor I shaved my legs for you tonight,
and if you see my cock I hope you go in fright.
ahh Skeletor you made me do some coke,
ahhh I'm up all night and its no joke.
The decision was correct I think
It does say a lot about how Hendo will perform at the top level of MMA as he turns 42. He was gassed and if Shogun wasn’t so shot himself, he would have finished.
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I'm worried for Rasha.
If he has to fight Hendo, it will be stanky coffin.
by Warbreezy on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Yeah he seems like he carries a lot of excess weight and from what I read, he doesn't cut any weight at all.
Maybe he can diet down. It would help his cardio and he would be a force.
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
His cardio is terrible at MW
See: Henderson/Shields
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Shogun had fought at middleweight before?
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 20, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Reading comprehension fail
I’m still fight high, I thought you were talking about Hendo. And yes, Shogun fought MW in PRIDE
I'm not as drunk as pdl
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PRIDE MW = 203lbs
"Nothin' wrong with an ass whuppin' every now and then. You take away the ass whuppin's and what do you get? You get people wearin' pants below their belly buttons. I'm tellin' you, you go out these days and see the crack of a young lady's butt. It's crazy, man. They should be locked up for indecent exposure. Look here. See? Suspenders! And a belt! I ain't takin' no chances."
He fought in a PRIDE tournament at 183lbs
It was in Fraser’s Hendo/Shogun breakdown earlier today
I'm not as drunk as pdl
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He does seem to have a belly at 205.
"Nothin' wrong with an ass whuppin' every now and then. You take away the ass whuppin's and what do you get? You get people wearin' pants below their belly buttons. I'm tellin' you, you go out these days and see the crack of a young lady's butt. It's crazy, man. They should be locked up for indecent exposure. Look here. See? Suspenders! And a belt! I ain't takin' no chances."
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by dajulzta on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
well this will totally over shadow Alverez-Chandler based on it being in the UFC and this was the main even with 2 legends, having said that it was a war
And being a better fight
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Barely
Alvarez/Chandler was FOTY canidate too.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
by RolloTomasi on Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
no alvarez and chandler is not foty because eddy went to sleep
shogun and hendo went to hell and back and both survived that is foty
saw it
I'm not as drunk as pdl
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Disappointed that Rua didn't go for the submission
It drives me crazy that these guys spend so much time in dominant positions and yet don’t seriously work for submissions. Especially when they’re reputed to have strong jiu jitsu. How long did Rua spend in full mount? And he tried for a half-hearted arm triangle? At least in the last 30 seconds go for the arm bar. Dan was holding it out there again and again just begging for Rua to tear it off. Rua bloody well should have known that there was a good chance he was down on the score cards.
An amazing fight nonetheless.
Fatigue, pure fatigue
Staying tight on that armbar transition takes more energy than it looks, and Shogun had zip left in the tank at that point.
"Nothin' wrong with an ass whuppin' every now and then. You take away the ass whuppin's and what do you get? You get people wearin' pants below their belly buttons. I'm tellin' you, you go out these days and see the crack of a young lady's butt. It's crazy, man. They should be locked up for indecent exposure. Look here. See? Suspenders! And a belt! I ain't takin' no chances."
the armbar might have been there
but it’s hard to understand your mindset and energy level after a war like that. plus, hendo has famously great sub defense
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I've experienced the extreme fatigue of fighting
in both submission wrestling tournaments and full contact muay thai. So I understand pretty well the difficulty of pushing yourself when you’re that deep into a fight. OK, fine, not after a 25 minute ass kicking… but I have an idea.
Anyway, as far as giving up his position is concerned: that’s why you work from the mount until the last 30-45 seconds of the fight and then go for the hail mary submission. There’s nothing to lose, especially when you’re probably going to lose the decision. If his corner didn’t tell him that then they lost the fight for him.
by High Roller on Nov 20, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
there's a lot to lose
He gives up position and Henderson reverses and starts pounding on him. Look at the way Hendo spun out of the rear naked in the 4th round or how Hendo locked on that crucifix. It’s also never been Shogun’s game to go for subs from top control. Not exactly the moment to try something new.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
In Shogun's mind
if he stayed on top and kept pounding, there was a good chance of getting a 10-8 round. If he ends up on his back after an armbar escape and takes a little GnP, that’s probably out the window. Now, it didn’t work out for him, but that’s more a fault of judging than of fight strategy.
I thought Cali was experimenting with the half point system.
Or, is that only in amatuer fights.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
by whardiek on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
only amateur
I'm not as drunk as pdl
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
this fight is exactly why the half point system is terrible for MMA. you would have had some crazy scorecards, just half points flying all around the place. judges can’t even get that 5th round scored right, how are they going to effectively determine what merits a half point in a fight with so many momentum swings.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
More like replaced it.
“Man, that guy is so HendovsShogun.”
That’s how it is said now.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
If I could cry, I could..but I can't (too unmanly)
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No shit, Sherlock?
But, hey, he won.
I hope he’s okay, though.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they both are.
Not surprising.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.ufc.com/media/139-post-pc
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Nov 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THANKS!
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
My only complaint is that when shogun got all those mounts he layed there a lot. Yeah, he did try to finish and threw a lot of good stuff, but I felt like he could have finished. Maybe he was just THAT tired. Props to Henderson for surviving though.
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions
PRIDE NEVER DIE
Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Nov 20, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
BTW
Shogun vs Rampage 2. Is the most logical fight to make right now.
Pair Rashad and Dan for a number 1 contender fight and we’re set.
"Anderson Silva, you absolutely SUCK!" -Chael Sonnen
by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST reply actions
This.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 20, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
bingo. or Dan vs Spider-Sonnen winner if he wants it
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by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Nov 20, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
something tells me hendo’s gonna stay at LHW, especially if Sonnen beats Silva. I also don’t think he’s going to take anymore contender fights. he’s gonna hold out for a title shot unless it’s some crazy appealing matchup like the fedor thing. rashad-level fights aren’t what he’s looking for.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Sonnen won’t beat Silva though, so it’s all good. It’ll be triangle time. :)
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by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Shogun/Rogerio II
Book it!
"Nothin' wrong with an ass whuppin' every now and then. You take away the ass whuppin's and what do you get? You get people wearin' pants below their belly buttons. I'm tellin' you, you go out these days and see the crack of a young lady's butt. It's crazy, man. They should be locked up for indecent exposure. Look here. See? Suspenders! And a belt! I ain't takin' no chances."
Hendo's corner advice before round 5
Aside from it being terrifically non crowd-pleasing, it almost cost him the fight. He didn’t have the energy to clinch with Shogun for 5 minutes and stuff his takedowns and dirty boxing.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:12 AM EST reply actions
I honestly think they were conceding the final round with the assumption that Hendo had won the first 3. They just didn’t want him getting knocked out.
yeah, that was obviously the rationale but it pretty much backfired. takes a lot more energy getting up from bottom than it does evading strikes. i’m sure shogun appreciated being able to spend the whole round with top control instead of throwing bombs while chasing hendo around the ring
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Bullsh@#
No way he won that fight.
by fightersvizion on Nov 20, 2011 12:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Which fight are you talking about?
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by Nightmare_wears_prada on Nov 20, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Both the Silva-Lee and Rua-Henderson fight got a 70k FOTN bonus
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Nov 20, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Dana White just gave Silva vs Le 'Fight of the Night' bonus
I’m assuming Hendo and Shogun will get an unofficial Fight of the Decade bonus
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by KJ Gould on Nov 20, 2011 12:15 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
In the presser post
Somebody said all four got it
I'm not as drunk as pdl
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
They got the bonus too
Danas just giving bonuses to everybody
Which makes sense.
I mean, we all thank God for Wanderlei, so he may as well give some credit back.
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Being a realist makes you a "hater" evidently.
by MicahtheCynic on Nov 20, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Dana saying Hendo can fight at MW and LHW
But Edgar needs to go FW? Way to stay consistent
I'm not as drunk as pdl
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Edgar is a small dude and cuts almost nothing to fight at 155. He should fight wherever he wants, but I could see him making FW no problem.
That's my point, of course he can make it
Dan is a very small LHW, I just think it’s silly how Dana was so adamant about FE gonig to fether but Hendo can fight wherever.
I'm not as drunk as pdl
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Dana got snippy with Ariel...
interesting.
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:24 AM EST reply actions
Ariel was picking at a pretty petty issue after one of the greatest fights of all time. I’m usually a fan of what Ariel does, but now’s a moment when I’m of the opinion that he’s being pretty fucking lame.
whether the Hendo-Shogu fight should have been stopped in the 1st or 3rd, comparing it to the Cung Wanderlei stoppage which may have been stopped with less leeway than the main event.
I think the bigger problem was that
Dana really didn’t want to answer the question and Ariel wouldn’t let it go, then kinda preached for a bit. I don’t know whether he was wrong to do so (it’s kinda his job) but he’s not going to win any points with Dana.
Dana talking shit to reporters at press conferences is hilarious
Can you imagine Roger Goodell saying “I have no idea what the fuck he said either” to some NFL reporter’s question?
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
Dana: I don’t think I’ve ever given two fights the FotN bonus. Looks over at Bonnar "Oh ok, apparently I have
I think your nickname fits pretty well right now.
by spectaa on Nov 20, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I got Andy
and, while I’m not a big fan of GSP, I still have mad respect for his skills and would say that he’s number 2.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
I rewatched the Henderson-Arona fight recently
Dan’s surely tough as nails, but best of all time guys don’t get dominated like Arona dominated him there, especially in the wrestling. Still, crazy to think that was like 8 years ago.
However, old Dan has really found his form in ways that young Dan couldn’t. He’s figured out how to play to his relatively limited strengths (toughness, knockout power, sub defense, clinch) like nobody else ever. He deserves one last “defining moment” fight.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Nov 20, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
All time great to be sure,
not the best though.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 20, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
post fight
i wish wandy would fucking stomp faber for that hair
http://www.ufc.com/media/139-post-pc
chael sonnen is better than your guy
Most guys not named Clay Guida don't want hair in their eyes during a fight
It’s not like Faber walks around looking like that any other night. WMMA fighters corn-row their hair all the time.
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Nov 20, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hendo is legit and he has been quite the threat even at his age
what a fucking bad ass, they should call him the immortal Hendo
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it’s like a Senzu Bean.
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by SentientAndroid on Nov 20, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
DB reference :)
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Nov 20, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
The word amazing is often overused...
but it fits here. So many times during that fight I was mentally begging the referee not to stop it. I thought the last round was a 10-8 too, but I don’t care about the decision. Both guys, and all of us, won tonight. Gotta love MMA!
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Anyone else crying out for an armbar?
In the 5th when Hendo was mounted and throwing up a straight arm in defense, several times. I guess Shogun didn’t want to lose position but damn it was there.
by aptar on Nov 20, 2011 2:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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