5 MMA Myths I'd like to see exposed
by stainlesssteel on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 AM EST
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(5) That MMA fans are dying to see Pacquaio/Mayweather.- Boxing fans would love to see this, but does anyone else really care?? In MMA today, there are so many far more deserving storylines: you have one of the most devastating punchers of all current heavyweights, you have the magnificent brilliance of Ben Henderson, the never ending story of Bruce Leroi making ALL the writers of BE eat crow, the now questionable rush of the great Latino MMA fanbase, and the day when all MMA fans will rejoice: your ass is grass and anderson silva is the lawn mower man vs civilization beatdown of chael sonnen.....and I'm supposed to give a rattlesnake's left nut about Floyd Mayweather?
- (4) That MMA will never reach true prominence, until there are fights at Madison Square Garden.
- I attribute this ridiculous notion 100% on the shoulders of Dana White. A self admitted boxing fan, who seemingly will never, under any circumstances give up on the dream of seeing his beloved creation, the UFC, on the stages of the arena he holds in unholy matrimony. Sorry Mr President, I say to you, just shut up about New York. You are giving New York far more importance to MMA than it deserves. Jon Jones will still punch as hard, Overeem will still dominate and chael sonnen will still be oblivious to the fact that no one has ever won a championship with quotes.
- (3) That Joe Silva is some magical diabolical genius.
- How this one came about, I'm not exactly sure. First of all, in title fights, where legends are born and made, Joe Silva's impact is zero. It's the number one contender, against the champ. So, if Henderson should go on to defeat Frankie Edgar, how is Joe Silva a genius? Or if Anderson Silva should catch Sonnen dozing off, and triangle choke him into tapping.....again, how is that Joe Silva being a genius?
- (2) That fighting is a glamorous occupation.
- So much of a UFC event is focused on the lights and spectacle and glitz and atmosphere, you almost forget that fighting is a savage and brutal sport, capable of inflicting horrific injuries. Dana White's after event video logs will sometime show the losing side of the card and the images are unforgettable. Yet fight fans around the world no doubt await the most anticipated after event video blog, post silva/sonnen, the one where chael sonnen is sitting with ice pack to his swollen and purple eyes, lips busted, ego deflated, and dana white himself walks in, sticks a microphone in sonnen's face and asks, 'So chael, how you like them braziliapples?"
- (1) And my number one MMA myth I would love to see exposed? That someday soon, MMA will be as mainstream as the NBA, or god forbid, the NFL.
- Please, bring yourselves back to reality. If this past weekend did not bring about a glimmer of recognition that MMA has eons of light years away from ever making a foothold in the average person's realm of consciousness, then you are a better man than I. First of all, Americans are just too damn fat to ever embrace MMA wholesale. Half the kids are so chubby, they wouldn't know the difference between a pull up and a roll up. American society is too privileged, too pampered to sustain the hunger for fighting. Not gonna happen. Nothing to do with fighting. It is really the true greatest sport of all time. But just like good whiskey, not a pleasurable experience to everyone. Enjoy MMA now for what it is and where it's been, and accept the truth that there are some places it simply will never go. But where it goes, we will follow. Especially when it leads to the exposure of a lout and bully, beaten into submission and admission, that deluded fantasies exist only in your head, championship moments are made in the octagon.
- Your championship moment in the middleweight division, will never happen.
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Ha, good read.
I agree with most of it but especially the Joe silva thing, and also the last line of the post.
by supermanpunch7 on Nov 15, 2011 10:55 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I agree with most of this
I think any “fight fan” wants to see Mayweather/Pacquaio. I think there are far more MMA fans who like boxing than boxing fans who like MMA. It’s honestly ignorant to downplay what a huge fight that would be, that would be the biggest fight possible at this current point in time.
The rest is true, I only say that if someday the UFC makes it into Madison Square Gardens, it wouldn’t be that specific event but the fact that they made it there that would be monumental. It would be like reaching a finish line because he could put a fight on in pretty much any place on the planet except in NY State.
seriously though bruce leroy looked good
like him at 135
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they wouldn’t know the difference between a pull up and a roll up
I chuckled
by cletusvandam on Nov 15, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good Post. Rec'd
5) As an MMA fan, how can you not be at least interested in other combat sports?
It is rare when the two most polarizing, and best, figures of any combat sport are able to fight each other. Personally I think every combat sport fan should want to see Pac/Mayweather, if only for the brilliance that may be displayed by one, or hopefully both, of these men.
What I don’t understand is the approval, by hardcore MMA fans, of BJJ or K-1 or Sambo, but not boxing. After wrestling, boxing has the next longest history of the combat sports and should be cherished for what it has done for MMA.
4) Dana White Urban Myth #1. MMA does not need NYC or MSG.
3) Joe Silva’s knack for creating good challengers is second to none. With the exception of Dan ‘Ardy, I can’t think of a “#1 contender” that was not very deserving. That, in itself, takes talent to make sure that there are guys the fans want to see fight.
2) If we didn’t believe it was glamorous, we wouldn’t pay $60 to watch it.
IMO, there is nothing purer than watching two men inflict physical harm upon each other until one is the victor, but it is very primal to want one person to beat the living snot out of the other, so it is made to seem glamorous to inhibit those thoughts.
1) MMA will be a fringe sport until MMA has its own Ali or Joe Louis, ie the biggest sports name on the planet is the UFC MMA HW champion. Luckily, we have Jon Jones to possibly attain that mantle. If not him, maybe one of the plethora of 15 year old kids that started training MMA and not one individual discipline.
His beloved adopted child?
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by halitosis on Nov 15, 2011 6:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now I know what they will be called when they inevitably marry. Next celebrity super couple!
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 15, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
How about
Flanny Pacweather?
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
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by TheFilt on Nov 15, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Youz a hater
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
by TheFilt on Nov 15, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Floyd Mayweather easily beats Manny Pac
Given he has had problems with the countering style of Marquez three times I have no doubts Mayweather would have his way with him pretty easily. Pac would not land much at all.
Mayweather is slicker and more elusive than Marquez AND he is a better counterpuncher. I really don’t see how Pac can get the better of Mayweather at all. And trust me I do not like Mayweather one bit and would love to see him get a beating, it just isn’t going to happen.
by taptomyarmbar on Nov 15, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
If you say this enough times
It’ll make it true.
"To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life." - BJ Penn
No.
I'm not as drunk as pdl
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Come on man.
Be a believer!
"To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life." - BJ Penn
His training partner thinks so
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/16/11/khan-wants-pacquiao-retire-soon
Moisture is the essence of wetness....Joe
I’d put my money on Mayweather as well.
by discoandherpes on Nov 15, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
#5 and #4 NEED TO HAPPEN
I don’t watch a lot of boxing but that fight needs to happen and Floyd should stop ducking. Also MMA in MSG would be a really big deal dont fool yourself. I am saying this as an MMA fan not a resident of NYS, hell I live closer to Toronto and Cleveland than NYC.
these are a few of my favorite things in no order: BHO, WANDY, burritos, chili, HMK glass, USMTA, NYHC, Motorhead, turtles, frogs, rewatching Chael tap to Anderson, and Big Nog KOing Schaub.
by the jewish conquistador on Nov 15, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions
#3 is idiotic.
Everyone talks about Silvas job as if it’s so easy and they could do it. It’s not the “Main” fits that makes Silva the best. It’s the supporting cast fights, like pairing up unknowns Edgar vs Griffin, fights like Stout vs Fisher. These are the fights that make Joe Silva shine. To try and say it’s a myth! Pssshh there’s no myth he’s simple the best at what he does. Plaine and simple.
by Who is Ryoto on Nov 15, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions 12 recs
A lot of people on this very site guess matchups weeks or months ahead of announcements from the UFC/Silva. I personally don’t see what all the fuss is about. 2 guys, same division, check relevance, make fight.
You should be thanking the fighters involved for great fights and star-making performances, not Joe Silva.
by nastyem on Nov 15, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What about the times where we think a fight is going to be a blow-out, and it ends up being competitive, or the clear favorite ends up losing? Just like Alex Caceres/Cole Escovedo…
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 15, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't think Caceres/Escovedo was a gimme...
I could be Joe Silva
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The betting lines for that fight were like +200 alex. That’s not really a huge dog imo.
Anyway, I don’t get why it matters. Joe Silva matched up 2 guys who were 0-2 in their last two fights. Any number of people off the street could have taken the a look at the UFC’s bantamweight roster and put those 2 together. Just because a competitive exciting fight or a brutal one sided beatdown happens isn’t proof that Joe Silva knew something we didn’t. It means one or both of those fighters of similar weight and relevance showed up and performed well.
by nastyem on Nov 15, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Obviously the fighters deserve credit, but I think you're oversimplifying his job
as a matchmaker who has to negotiate fights, find injury replacements and put on surprisingly competetive fights like Mizugaki/Duran, Edwards/McGuire, and Lil Nog/Brilz, and completely ignoring his role as head talent scout.
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by sun yue on Nov 15, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No I agree with you here… I am definitely oversimplifying his job. But I’m doing so because that’s the only aspect of his job that people praise him for. If you want to look at it that way, why did Rich Chou never get any credit? Here’s a guy with an extremely limited roster, lacking relevant fighters in almost every division, who managed to put together some extremely entertaining shows. He and Coker also managed to secure contracts that brought fighters over from rival promotions to make extremely relevant fights at the time (Aoki,Crusher,Zaromskis,JZ). Dude was basically shit on for making gold out of garbage.
I just want to make this clear, I’m not hating on Joe or saying he’s doing a bad job. I just think he’s doing an adequate job. Shit, we don’t even have someone to compare him to anymore.
Right now, Joe Silva is basically working in a vacuum anyway. With SF gone, 90% of relevant talent is in the UFC. It’s almost impossible to make a bad fight, that’s why I don’t understand the outpouring of Joe Silva love you get every now and then when a fight is announced.
Some other thoughts:
1) Someone mentioned Edgar/Griffin, Fisher/Stout. Three of those guys, Edgar/Griffin/Stout have a combined 10 Fight of the Nights, 1 Fight of the Year, and 2 KO’s of the Night. None of those were against one another. You can tell me all you want that those fights were awesome because of matchmaking— I’ll tell you they were awesome because the fighters involved happen to be some of the most exciting in the UFC.
2) You can’t make bad fights in the UFC. They’re all relevant. The onus of whether they’re exciting or not is up to the people who show up that night. For every great fight people are quick to mention, there’s also a stinker that we’ve been trying to forget.
3) Finding injury replacements, doesn’t this go something like “throw money at relevant division fighter till they accept?”
4) And my ultimate reasoning that Joe Silva sucks at his job: He hasn’t solved the Jon Fitch problem by finding someone to beat him yet. ;) just kidding.
Just to reiterate, I don’t think Joe Silva is doing a bad job, I just think he’s doing a job. I think a lot of us fantasy matchmakers would have just as much “success”.
I kinda think people love Joe Silva because he’s like the opposite of Dana White. When a fight is great we’re like JOE SILVA OH YEAHHHH and when it sucks we’re like WHY DID YOU PUT THAT ON THE MAIN CARD DANA?
Chou got a lot of credit for putting together exciting matches with a limited roster
Tho he also took some heat for relative squash matches like Daley/Smith. However, I distinctly remember him getting a lot of praise for his work with SF.
I'm not as drunk as pdl
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
why did Rich Chou never get any credit?
Because he was awful at building up talent and Sean Shelby and Joe Silva both run circles around him. Frankly Bellator has done better match-making with less talent.
He had a truly deep MW division and an increasingly good LHW division and he ended up coming up with main-events like Robbier Lawler vs Renato Sobral at catchweight where the winner gets a title shot in their own division.
He ended up giving a HW title shot to a man coming off a loss as the back-up plan to Fedor vs. Overeem.
He managed to snag a Top 20 WW in Jay Hieron on the promise of having him fight Nick Diaz and not only did that fight fall through twice, he failed to get either of Jay’s matches on tv, leaving him so disgusted he went to Bellator rather than re-sign.
He is the number one reason people think WMMA is even shallower than it is. He had access to almost any WMMA fighter on the planet, and he chose fighters almost at random, regardless of ability and with only a half-assed regard for marketability.. He didn’t make Gina Carano or Cyborg either, that was EliteXC. Jan Finney vs. Cyborg was an epic mismatch and there were about 30 better opponents for Cyborg, including the #2 W145 fighter in the world who had actually called Cyborg out and is finally getting a shot in December, and he chooses an 8-7 Bantamweight who ends up getting mauled as badly as any fighter I’ve ever seen in a complete round.
Fuck Rich Chou, I’m glad he’s gone.
He is the number one reason people think WMMA is even shallower than it is
Women’s MMA has fallen off the map completely since Zuffa has put SF on the backburner.
And Joe Silva is amazing at building up talent in comparison? Then why are we shouting from the rooftops for Nick Diaz, Gil Melendez and Alistair Overeem to make their UFC debuts? Every other week I see an article on here about WHY CAN’T THE UFC MAKE NEW STARS? WHY DOES NO ONE LIKE FRANK EDGAR? To this day the most exciting title challengers in the UFC are Pride vets or promotional transplants.
Shit, the 4 fighters on UFC139’s poster made their names ELSEWHERE.
Women’s MMA fell off the map when Strikeforce wouldn’t do jack shit with it.
Sean Shelby actually went out and hired people like Alexis Davis, Ronda Rousey, Hiroko Yamanaka, and re-signed Shayna Baszler and Julie Kedzie, and tried to get every woman on the roster matches when it had basically been in limbo for months leading up to the Strikeforce buyout.
Every other week I see an article on here about WHY CAN’T THE UFC MAKE NEW STARS?
Please feel free to link to one then.
And forgive me while I vomit over the claim the UFC can’t make stars. Where do you think Hendo really became a star in the U.S.? You can cherry pick the few examples where Strikeforce has made a star (roughly two per division), but the UFC made Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, Junior dos Santos, and Frank Mir in the HW division alone (that’s five of the top seven), Rampage Jackson, Jon “Bones” Jones, Rashad Evans, and Forrest Griffin in the LHW division, and made people like Shogun, Hendo, and Anderson Silva into much bigger stars. Practically every star in the Welterweight division is a Zuffa product outside of Nick Diaz. Basically most of the top ten (by star power or ranking, your choice) in every single division was a guy “made” by Zuffa.
Objectively the UFC does a better job than anyone in making stars in this sport.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/10/21/2505085/ufc-fox-build-stars-perplexing-problems
Objectively the UFC does a better job than anyone in making stars in this sport.
They control all the talent, so obv.
And I think you may need to re-evaluate your statement that the UFC made Brock Lesnar a star.
Wow, they couldn’t build Dominick Cruz. That’s saying how they failed to make a charismaless guy with a giant chip on his shoulder and no finishing ability in a weight division that was brand new to the UFC into a star in his first two UFC fights. Color me shocked.
That’s not to say Dominick Cruz isn’t talented, but there’s a difference between not being able to make people into stars who have talent and little else that’s marketable, and not being able to make stars period. The amount of midcarders that the UFC, or Zuffa rather, has been able to make people care about is rather staggering. Over half the LHW division is filled with guys people at least care about that can add depth to a card. Ditto the HW division. Seriously, go to UFC.com and count. Stephan Bonnar is below-average in that group. Pat Barry is well below average in that group. And because people care about guys those midcarders to begin with, those who rise to the top have an easier time being stars. Everyone already knew who Josh Koscheck was and what he was about when he rose from prospect to title contender, even if they’re paying to watch him lose. Everyone knew who Kenny Florian was. And now everyone knows who the Korean Zombie is. Conversely everyone knows who Leonard Garcia is. Even if everyone wants to see Garcia lose, that still makes him a guy people want to see.
The fact is, they’ve succeeded where a great many other promotions failed, and have also eaten into pro-wrestling’s audience and snagged away people who might have ended up as boxing fans by creating cards with the sort of depth they have. It’s true that the main draws are always going to be big headliners, but when you give the undercard meaning by giving fans a reason to care about those fighters, the card is judged by a whole and that’s what creates hardcore fans who can forgive a bad main-event if the card as a whole was great (see: UFC 129). And no one does this better than the UFC.
I’ll give that the WWE was who made Brock a star, but that doesn’t take way from all the other stars the UFC has made.
Well Sean Shelby did a badass job in the WEC, arguably better than Silva at the time.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Nov 15, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Still is doing a badass job. People do realize that Shelby does all the matchmaking in the lighter divisions (outside of perhaps the title fights, which essentially book themselves) right?
Joe Silva had nothing to do with Caceres/Escovedo as someone remarked earlier. That was all Sean Shelby.
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Shelby's handling Strikeforce
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The article is funny, but I disagree with almost all of it
First of all, Americans are just too damn fat to ever embrace MMA wholesale. Half the kids are so chubby, they wouldn’t know the difference between a pull up and a roll up. American society is too privileged, too pampered to sustain the hunger for fighting.
I guess the 100 years of boxing, and the past few decades of video game and movie violence isn’t enough for this author to realize that American LOVE violence.
Yet fight fans around the world no doubt await the most anticipated after event video blog, post silva/sonnen, the one where chael sonnen is sitting with ice pack to his swollen and purple eyes, lips busted, ego deflated, and dana white himself walks in, sticks a microphone in sonnen’s face and asks, ’So chael, how you like them braziliapples?"
This adds absolutely nothing to your point that fighting isn’t glamourous. I don’t know what you are trying to say. Fighting isn’t glamourous, but this little story has nothing to do with it.
Sorry Mr President, I say to you, just shut up about New York. You are giving New York far more importance to MMA than it deserves
What are you 15 years old? New York has been a major hub for sporting events since about 1776. The Knicks, the Bulls vs the Knicks, Wrestlemanias, J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets…nevermind. If you don’t understand why having sporting events in America’s #1 City is important, you must be like 15 yrs old.
That MMA fans are dying to see Pacquaio/Mayweather.
2.Boxing fans would love to see this, but does anyone else really care??
Only if you want to see the best fighters fight. I enjoy all sports. Boxing is one of them, though its not a favorite. Of course I want to see the two best fist fighters in the world, fight. Why wouldn’t you?
Moisture is the essence of wetness....Joe
by warren305 on Nov 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions 14 recs
Do you think you mentioned Chael enough?
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by Zachary Kater on Nov 15, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
If Henderson beats Edgar
The UFC would love it.
He’s better looking and has cooler hair.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
The Head and Shoulders commercials alone would be worth it.
by TMadeBurner on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta disagree about Joe Silva
Sure, it’s easy to match up the champ and #1 competitor, but UFC consistently puts on great cards. Just look at how often the prelims deliver. He puts together intriguing fights with all sorts of contenders, prospects and veterans. If you need more examples, just think back to the brain dead Strikeforce matchmaking pre-Zuffa.
by Pat Tzu on Nov 15, 2011 5:50 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Well
5. I personally do not give a sh!t about Pac Man vs Floyd…or boxing in general…in fact, I get really annoyed when I see MMA sites giving boxing attention, while I’m sure the opposite is would never happen…I don’t get why some of the MMA community feel like they need to give boxing attention…
4. Well, I don’t think MMA needs MSG to become truly prominent, but the fact that it is still banned in a major place like New York is sort of a big thorn in the side of MMA.
3. Joe Silva is a damn good match maker, and I am sure he thinks a step or two ahead sometimes with some matchups…to ensure the best matchups no matter who wins…but I wouldn’t say he’s some ‘diabolical genius’…whatever that exactly means.
2. Fighting is fighting…yes, there is money and fame…but it’s still fighting…I don’t see how that could be a major misconception.
1. My whole thing is that UFC continues to reach new heights and build new fans and grow. I haven’t heard of too many people who were fans and then gave up altogether…but I have heard plenty of stories of people who weren’t fans and then became addicted(myself included)
2009 and 2010 broke the UFC PPV records. 2011 saw them get fighter accident insurance, finding a way to make every fight available to the public, saw them purchase their #1 competitor, ink a 7 year network deal, and make a debut on Network TV with their most watched event ever…
this year the raw PPV numbers are down by a good amount…but alot of their big cards got ruined…but they made strides in other areas that more then made up for their PPV shortcomings.
I mean, until MMA seems to truly hit a wall…I’m not going to make any projections about how mainstream or not mainstream it could be.
"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz
by Chris Groves on Nov 15, 2011 5:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I about 1/2 agree
5: Dying, no. But I’d like to see it.
4: Agree, total myth.
3: Disagree. Silva is pretty damn good at his job.
2: Disagree. Fighting not glamorous? Tell that to the guy sitting on top of the cage basking in the adulation of thousands of screaming bloodthirsty fans. All glamorous occupations have their gritty side. Often the risk of brutal injury is part of the glamour. If people stand in line to get your autograph, your profession has some glamour attached to it.
1: Fair argument to make. Time will tell, but in the short term you’re probably right.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
myth #6
locker room bonuses and sponsorship money make all MMA fighters rich.
I like how you slip in that jab at America as a whole
And apparently you believe Joe Silva only matches up title fights.
And that you think Chael has no chance…. when he dominated your champ for 4 1/2 rounds.
And somehow believe that Floyd vs. Manny wouldn’t be huge to all fans of combat sports… other than yourself.
And… wait stainlesssteel? Haha, it’s not even worth it…
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
i bet ur the same einstein who said yippee to sommen/stann
you can’t call a fight terrible if it hasn’t yet happened.
but you’re probably too dumb to even understand the logic.
When intelligent cooks are making exceptional cuisine….
And if anyone should ask you, I've got the gamblers blues.
by stainlesssteel on Nov 17, 2011 12:33 AM EST reply actions
(1) And my number one MMA myth I would love to see exposed? That someday soon, MMA will be as mainstream as the NBA, or god forbid, the NFL.
First of all, Americans are just too damn fat to ever embrace MMA wholesale. Half the kids are so chubby, they wouldn’t know the difference between a pull up and a roll up. American society is too privileged, too pampered to sustain the hunger for fighting.
So your argument is that since Americans are unathletic and lazy (already a silly generalization), Amercans specifically won’t take to MMA as opposed to the NBA or the NFL. Because professional basketball is a sport for fatties, and football is for the pampered and lazy. Got it.
It’s not even that I disagree with you, it’s your reasoning that’s ridiculous.
(1) And my number one MMA myth I would love to see exposed? That someday soon, MMA will be as mainstream as the NBA, or god forbid, the NFL.
First of all, Americans are just too damn fat to ever embrace MMA wholesale. Half the kids are so chubby, they wouldn’t know the difference between a pull up and a roll up. American society is too privileged, too pampered to sustain the hunger for fighting.
So your argument is that since Americans are unathletic and lazy (already a silly generalization), Amercans specifically won’t take to MMA as opposed to the NBA or the NFL. Because professional basketball is a sport for fatties, and football is for the pampered and lazy. Got it.
It’s not even that I disagree with you, it’s your reasoning that’s ridiculous.
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