UFC on Fox 1: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior dos Santos Dissection
It seems that, in all combat sports, the heavyweights always attract a lot of attention. A big fight between two big boys is easy to market and consistently magnetizes fans. I never really got that. It's ironic that another widely accepted rule of thumb is that the level of action and excitement generally increases the lighter in weight the competitors are.
Rather than take in two stubbly-faced neanderthals lumbering around and flailing fists the size of Christmas hams, I was more satisfied watching the well-rounded little guys disappear into a confusing tornado of limbs and ricochet around the cage as if the production team had mistakenly broadcast show in fast-forward.
However, the Cain Velasquez vs. Junior dos Santos heavyweight championship bout headlining tonight's landmark UFC on Fox 1: Velasquez vs. Dos Santos event is a different animal. Don't get me wrong -- this is still a half-ton of human beef colliding with intentions of decapitating one another, but these athletes conduct themselves like respectful gentlemen and engage in their respective trades with a fluid agility and violent grace that defies the common conception of today's leviathan combatants.
In one corner, we have the sheepishly smiling and disarmingly humble dos Santos; a gentle giant who's endured the diversity of a rough upbringing in Brazil and ascended to the sport's apex with traditional boxing. Then there's Cain Velasquez, a Mexican-American wrestler who's adopted his mother and father's blue-collar work ethic to transform into planet Earth's alpha-heavyweight.
Since the mystique of Russian legend Fedor Emelianenko is no more, these two mixed martial artists are leading the charge as the sport's new era of heavyweight fighters, and there is no better place to stage their showdown for the masses than the UFC's groundbreaking premiere on Fox. It's on.
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The Prologue
I interviewed Velasquez's manager and trainer when the champ was still unconscious on the operating table after his shoulder surgery. The procedure was successful and the prognosis was to begin training in three to four months and reappear in the Octagon in six. That was almost ten months ago on the dot.
The shoulder might be the most finicky and complex injury to rehabilitate for any athlete. The required range of motion and breadth of application can make recovery a tedious task, even more so for the laborious occupation of a fighter, and the question of ring-rust always accompanies year-long layoffs. Just going through the myriad MMA training and sparring drills of his own volition could tax his shoulder to the fullest, and now he'll have 239-pounds of power-punching Brazilian to fend off with it.
While dos Santos has been spotless in the UFC and murderous on the feet, his only stain on the carpet is a 2007 submission loss. The Brazilian has persevered through just one wrestler, and one who prefers to handle business standing to boot. While all signs would indicate dos Santos is tough to get down and can handle himself accordingly, he's yet to be dragged through the mire by a tireless takedown artist like Velasquez.
The Champion
Velasquez was trumpeted as a behind-the-scenes training phenom since day one. I finally bought into the hype the day he crumpled the venerable Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira with a whirlwind of devastating kickboxing.
He became much more than a frenetically paced wrestler with pestering ground-and-pound. This wasn't your standard lucky punch -- this was a burly, athletic heavyweight unreeling high kicks, low kicks, front kicks and blazing hand combinations with the ease of a lightweight.
Much like Jon Jones, Velasquez's star seemed to shine brighter as the voraciousness of his competition grew. After climbing out of the division's basement with stoppages of Brad Morris, Jake O'Brien and Dennis Stojnic, Cain's first spotlight performance came against Cheick Kongo.
The gifted French striker fought off takedowns tooth and nail and lanced mile-long, straight punches through his guard.
An air of desperation seemed to accent the way Velasquez reverted to his wrestling roots to exploit Kongo's weakness and win the decision. Sure, he beat Kongo, but so did Heath Herring and Carmello Marrero, and we weren't wetting our pants over them.
Next up was the stone-faced Ben Rothwell, a crusty veteran with a much more balanced skill-set.
The striking of "Big Ben" actualized as a man prodding a hornet's nest with a stick. Velasquez devoured the veteran and firmly adhered himself while swarming with an incessant volley of punches and hammerfists.
Once again it was the unnervingly frenzied pace and pressure of Velasquez that planted the seed for his exceptional potential. Still, it was easy to whine about the stoppage and, citing the Kongo fight, stamp him as a one-dimensional wrestler.
And that is precisely why the kickboxing repertoire he vanquished Big Nog with was particularly mind-blowing.
But alas, we fans are a coarse lot of pessimistic meat-heads.
"Poor Nog's chin is gone," and, "Gotta love Big Nog but he's known for getting his ass kicked," and, "Big deal, Frank Mir just did that too!" we bemoaned.
After the schoolyard beating Velasquez laid out on Brock Lesnar to assume the heavyweight mantle, we were out of excuses. There was no room to deny that Cain Velasquez was the real deal. His striking and power were cemented and conglomerated with his already proven wrestling prowess. A champ was born.
The Challenger
A highly advisable way for an unknown fighter to introduce himself is by taking on an esteemed and experienced opponent -- who has never been knocked out -- in your UFC debut and clobbering him into a peaceful slumber in about a minute.
Oh ... well, hello there Junior dos Santos.
The Brazilian's emergence was as subtle and delicate as the Kool-Aid man crashing through your living room wall. Werdum's status was unquestionably well deserved, leaving barely enough room for the provincial doubters to cry "Fluke!" considering the litany of dangerous strikers the Pride standout had already tangled with.
Even though this initial win probably stands as the most impressive, every subsequent performance further defined the heightening legacy of "Cigano", who left a wake of carnage in his trail with lifeless bodies falling left and right.
Stefan Struve, a second Pride icon in Mirko Filipovic and Gabriel Gonzaga all crumbled under the merciless wrath of his technical boxing. The Team Nogueira product remained level-headed about his meteoric rise until his coach and mentor was (literally) knocked out of the title race in 2010.
After handily dismantling the hard-headed Roy Nelson, it became crystal clear that Junior dos Santos was destined to vie for championship gold.
Accepting a coaching role opposite Brock Lesnar on TUF, the momentum fizzled due to the champ's recurring battle with diverticulitis, vaulting perennial contender Shane Carwin in his place.
Like the Nelson fight, the foray was decided on the score cards but the result wasn't really any less overwhelming than his previous knockouts. Now establishing his takedown defense against a credentialed wrestler, dos Santos was undeniably next in line.
The Match Up
For as monumental as this match up is, the variables are rather straight forward: it's the perilous boxing of dos Santos versus the kickboxing of Velasquez with the question mark of the champ's ability to implement his wrestling effectively.
Prior to Velasquez's kicking onslaught against Nogueira, a simple set of straight rights and lefts made up most of his offerings in the stand up. Perhaps due to the lacking threat of takedowns from Nog, the champ rolled out a wide array of different kicks with cool confidence.
It will be interesting to see whether he relies on kicks from beyond the perimeter of the Brazilian's wheelhouse or relents to retain balance and defense by dueling with his hands.
While dos Santos is easily the best heavyweight boxer, nothing will eliminate the hazards of being a predictable fighter with a transparent strategy.
Everyone knows the challenger wants to keep Velasquez in front of him and work his hands. dos Santos uses the jab well but it's his only distance weapon. In close quarters, his pummeling right hand and one of the scariest left hooks in the game come into play.
The concern is that any power-puncher must plant his feet to generate torque. The ideal tactic to instill hesitancy for such a fighter is the threat of shooting.
Defending high level takedowns requires a contradictory set of footwork. Instead of forward-oriented and planted for power, he has to be light on his toes and poised to spring back for a deep sprawl.
If I'm going to bring up Cain's fight with Kongo as ammunition for how JDS could tag him even worse, it's only fair to highlight Gonzaga's successful takedown and point out how Velasquez will cover more ground and do a much better job of keeping him there.
dos Santos should have the chops to escape and avoid major damage, but every such instance would result in a significant scoring shift toward Velasquez.
Conversely, if Velasquez isn't careful about dropping levels and shows any signs of a pattern, dos Santos thrives with two tools known to cripple aspiring wrestlers: a massive uppercut and a brutal lead knee to the body.
Both of these techniques were integral against Nelson. JDS keyed in on Nelson's habit of dipping his head down into the pocket and/or retreating back in a straight line; characteristics that Velasquez has exhibited in the past.
When the champ faced a tight striker with rigid takedown defense, we saw some weaknesses. The challenger made it through the wrestling of Carwin although it's a far cry from the caliber of Velasquez, who will also have better agility and striking.
The Conclusion
I'm leaning toward dos Santos here for showing the better chin, having a solid chance of nullifying takedowns or scrambling loose when he cannot, and -- most importantly -- for having a sterling and rocket-fueled set of boxing combinations that have been thoroughly unstoppable thus far.
The long layoff and shoulder injury chip away at some of the Velasquez's advantages of being more diverse, though I realize that's a highly subjective factor. The champ also has a fierce ruggedness and determination that could deflate dos Santos in later rounds.
Analyze their tendencies and form your own conclusions, but mine is that we'll see a new champion tonight.
My Prediction: Junior dos Santos by decision.
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Would that be registered as an official
TKO or submission?
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's still a pleasant visual
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
If you're into that sort of thing, I guess.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Oh wait, he just remembered one time when he commented on his habit of motorboating his wife’s ass to a female co-worker, but it ended there.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Nov 12, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Herman Cain never motorboated anyone’s ass.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Nov 12, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Now that he thinks about it, yes- Herman has motorboated several asses. But he settled out of court.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Nov 12, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Zinger!
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT CANNONS I'M EXCITED FOR TONIGHT
No Prediction, but WAR JDS. Also, Dallas, this has been another awesome set of previews.
KEMvP
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by T.C. Engel on Nov 12, 2011 1:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ditto on shit cannons and excitement
And thanks a lot. I put a ridiculous amount of time into these and I’m really thankful some appreciate them.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Dallas, they really are superb.
I may not comment on all of them, but I definitely read them. They’re unbelievable.
KEMvP
"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
"...this is still a half-ton of human beef colliding..."
Emmanuel Yarborough is fighting himself for the title?
"When we write a joke, we never ask, ‘Who’s gonna get this?’ We always say, ‘The right people will get this’." ~ Joel Hodgson
"To believe that consciousness can survive the wreck of the brain is like believing that 70 mph can survive the wreck of the car." ~ Frank Zindler
"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." ~ Thomas Paine
I was going to argue using physics
But I think there’s enough lateral movement in Manny’s upper body that two slabs could inevitably collide.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You mean teats, right?
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
It’s kind of awkward and icky, but … yes, that’s exactly what I was envisioning.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Like this...

But hugher, and in a roundy, round man.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm pretty shocked by
all the JDS picks. Not because he doesn’t have a great chance at winning tonight, but it seems to be unanimous. I think only Fraser picked Cain. Personally, I think Cain will take it. Assuming he’s relatively healthy, I think he’s sturdy enough to handle JDS’s power (in addition to being competent himself on the feet). So long as the fight gets to round 3, I see JDS struggling to keep from getting put on his back where Cain will have the advantage. Goddamn, this fight can’t get here quick enough.
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I was fairly surprised at that as well
I thought I’d be in the minority. I don’t think anyone can deny Cain’s chances though, for all the reasons you stated.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
so when you say JDS by decision...
are you envisioning 25 minutes of Cain being unable to get this to the ground, and JDS’ TDD being just as strong in the 4th as the 1st, or are are you seeing JDS just punishing Cain but being unable to finish him on the feet for at least 3 rounds? I wouldn’t be surprised at all if JDS wins this, but by decision? I’d be pretty stunned.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Nov 12, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well ...
I said in my Bendo x Guida piece that I often pick a decision when a finish just seems too bold.
I see Cain getting JDS down a few times and maybe keeping him there for the good part of one round. I think Cain will win a round or two but JDS will shuck off a higher amount of his shots and land the more meaningful and memorable bombs on the feet.
Cain’s recovery and wrestling lead me to believe this will last to a decision. Hell, I think if it gets finished, Cain might have better chance of doing it on the mat.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
the reason people like HW is because at the end of the day everyone knows that hw could beat any other weight class. meaning the winner between cain vs jds is going to be the best fighter in the planet.
I dunno
I’m not one for drastic projections but I think Anderson Silva’s absolutely unparalleled footwork and striking would be a tremendous challenge for most heavies.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it would,
but a guy like Cain V would just plow Ando into the fence and just pour it on him with strikes. And he’s not like to get subbed like Chael is.
What I would really like to see is how Anderson looks in sparring against Junior… Maldonado was doing well with the hands, and in the video of him sparring Shogun, he seems to give as good as he gets. But that’s sparring. Junior gets friggin MEAN in the cage, and something tells me that in a real fight he would beat up even a consummate technician like Anderson.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 12, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
That's where I disagree
The entire worth Silva’s unreal footwork is that it’s merely impossible to just “plow him into the fence”, especially when he’d know it’s coming and it’s really the only threat.
Love your last point though. JDS does have a very effective street-fighting mentality that only a select few can implement effectively and/or without getting sloppy (Penn, Diaz, Mizugaki, etc.)
Plus, straight boxing leaves him with a stance and hand position that works well for TDD.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
BTW
I realize the last Sonnen fight entirely negates my Silva point.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's kinda what I was thinking
I know Anderson was injured, and Chael had more testosterone than a Bully Whippet, but I think that someone who isn’t afraid of Anderson, who has a sturdy chin and sufficient striking to get inside can run Anderson right into the ground. I think Cain could replicate that success.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 12, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
WAR Velasquez so hype first MMA event live finally get to see this baba o riley thing
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I love JDS
but I have a hard time seeing him winning three rounds. If he can’t get to Cain inside the distance, I think Cain’s conditioning and pace is going to dominate in the championship rounds. I’m looking for a second-round KO from Cigano.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
If JDS is to win by decision, he has to mow throw Cain for at least the first two rounds.
And then keep it even with him as he tires; otherwise he will get Carwin’d..or Maynard’d [sic].
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JDS pretty much threw nonstop volleys for all 3 rounds
Against both Big Country and Carwin. I don’t really think he’s shown any evidence that he’ll slow down.
If anything, Cain has only made it to the 3rd once and that was against Kongo. I’m not sure he deserves the edge with conditioning that everyone seems to be granting him with, especially with his surgery (rust, pain and lack of training).
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
He was piss tired after both those fights, though.
You could see him sucking air after pounding on Nelson so much by the third round.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
How many people are not "piss tired"
after unloading everything in their gun for 15 straight minutes though? Didn’t seem much worse than Cain after the Kongo fight.
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Except that Cain was getting beat on some, and JDS was doing the beating. Big difference, I think.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 12, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I can see it happening.
But I still don’t see it as JDS being able to last for five rounds with a consistent offensive output.
I think that if JDS wins, it is b/c he either manhandled Cain really early on an dknocked him out, or dominated him consistently b/c he got tired due to what you said.
But either way, I see them both being spent after three rounds—if Cain’s cardio is being overrated, that is.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
WTF is mow throw?! (I meant mow down)...gotta stop focusing on more than one thing while I write...
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I just thought it was some sort of Landscaping Silat
"And when I am entombed in my place, Be it remembered of a single man,
He never, though he dearly loved his race, For fear of human eyes swerved from his plan."
"The days pass over me, And I am still the same;
The aroma of my life is gone With the flower with which it came."
by Dallas Winston on Nov 12, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Um... ... ...yes.
That’s exactly what it is.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I got JDS, but man I'm hyped for this fight
Junior is the one I always thought would win between the two so I’m sticking to it. It’s hard to believe these two guys are finally fighting tonight. I remember for well over 2 years we have all wanted to see these two guys go at it. A wild card is Cain’s possible injury though. The magnitude(POP POP!) of this card means that neither could drop out if they got hurt.
Of all the possible outcomes
I think JDS by decision is one of the least likely
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 12, 2011 2:43 PM EST reply actions
Why would beating on a guy for 2 rounds
be any more exhausting than having a guy like JDS pound your skull for those rounds? If JDS puts an unholy beating on Cain, I don’t see him being any less exhausted than the guy who just clobbered him. Look at what happened in the Lesnar fight. He was gassed just from having Cain toss him around the ring and pummel him, and Lesnar was known for having great conditioning for a heavyweight.
I think we are assuming that Cain's cardio has taken a hit after his long-ass layoff plus his injuries.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I understand.
My point is just that I don’t see how getting your ass kicked is any less exhausting that doing the ass kicking. If you beat a guy with a stick until your arms are tired, it’s very unlikely that he’s going to come up as fresh as a daisy.
Also, I’d love to see JDS punish Cain with body shots and leg kicks. I think that would really hurt his conditioning in the long run.
Are you kidding?
Getting your ass kicked entails a whole different reaction in your nervous system than giving an ass kicking. It’s science.
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by Unabomberman on Nov 12, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions

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