UFC 140: Dana White Announces Jon Jones vs. Lyoto Machida
by Nate Wilcox on Oct 6, 2011 1:25 PM EDT
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UFC president Dana White tweeted today that a light heavyweight title fight between Jon Jones and Lyoto Machida will headline UFC 140 in Toronto on December 10, 2011. Yesterday reports surfaced that it would be Jones vs. Rashad Evans but White quickly squelched those reports.
Here's Dana's tweet:
@danawhite
Dana White Alright Toronto!!! Dec 10th UFC 140 tix go on sale next weekend and ur main event is Bones Jones vs Machida!!!
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Jon Jones (14-1, 8-1 UFC)
W Quinton Jackson UFC 135 Submission (rear naked choke)
W Mauricio Rua UFC 128 TKO
W Ryan Bader UFC 126 Submission (guillotine choke)
Lyoto Machida (17-2, 9-2 UFC)
W Randy Couture UFC 129 KO
L Quinton Jackson UFC 123 Decision
L Mauricio Rua UFC 114 KO
UPDATE: Jonathan Snowden comments on the match making: Jon Jones Should Not Be Fighting Lyoto Machida.
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This stands out...
Jon Jones (14-1, 8-1 UFC)
W Quinton Jackson UFC 135 Submission (rear naked choke)
W Mauricio Rua UFC 128 TKO
W Ryan Bader UFC 126 Submission (guillotine choke)
Lyoto Machida (17-2, 9-2 UFC)
W Randy Couture UFC 129 KO
L Quinton Jackson UFC 123 Decision
L Mauricio Rua UFC 114 KO
Jones finished the last two guys who beat Machida.
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to me it stands out
that it says WLL for machida and hes getting a title shot…
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So you want Jones to shit on the shelf for possibly 10 months?
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 42 recs
Sounds messy.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
This is the best typo I've ever made.
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by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
It was so good
I thought it was intentional.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Given the meme of Jones’ self-righteousness, I would have laughed more if he wrote “shit on the self”
by paythefighters on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
No that's not what I am suggesting
But Jones just fought on September 24th, this isn’t even 3 months since that
Big respect to Jon Jones for being willing to fight so often but I’m just shocked they are pumping out Jones fights this fast
Realistically
~3 months between bouts is all a fighter should need, so long as they aren’t injured. A week or so for rest, a few weeks to correct old errors and build up their body with heavy core lifts, and then you start a 6-8 week camp.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I was thinking 3-4 weeks to rest and chill out with the fam and then a 6-8 week/8-10 week training camp minus injuries of course
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
3 weeks rest might be a bit much,
I mean, a week of just straight chillin, a week of just lightly working on technique, and then some heavy lifting heading into training camp. What heavy core lifts do are help strengthen the tendons, making injury less likely.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I was just thinking that they’d want a good bit of time to be away from the gym and training for a month or so before they got right back into it for 2-3 months straight. 2+ months training and then one week off followed by 2+ months training and one week off etc. just seems like you’d be spending too much time with your mind constantly focused on “the fight game”. But it’s their job, so there’s that.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 7, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I think it’s important for fighters to get back into the gym, at least in a learning capacity, ASAP. Even if they won their last fight, there are always things that can be improved on, new things to learn, etc.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 7, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
because why not?
Whining about a top 5 guy getting a title shot is almost as bad about whining about the main event of a card that hasn’t been announced yet.
by Phildo on Oct 6, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
A top 5 guy whose only win he’s coming off of is the decrepit Couture.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lyoto Machida > Randy Couture > James Toney > Montell Griffin > Roy Jones Jr
Lyoto Machida > Roy Jones Jr.
Title shot warranted.
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by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is awesome.
Even better:
Valentijn Overeem > Randy Couture > James Toney > Montell Griffin > Roy Jones Jr
Lil’ Reem > Roy Jones Jr.
Lyoto Machida > Rashad Evans > Michael Bisping > Matt Hamill >Jon Jones
problem solved girls
by TheCode on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
what it really should be
Bisping < Hamill < Jones
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by nannerb on Oct 6, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don't need Montell Griffin RJJ beat Toney.
I should have shared the knowledge that Ben gases from my experience during our sweaty sex sessions. Not placing in the top 3 is karma return.
right...
that’s actually what I was gonna say.
Except in his MMAth SSR is saying that Toney is better than RJJ… and had to use that common opponent, since RJJ did KO Toney in a hilarious fashion.
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by The Lethal Haze on Oct 6, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the fight game
To add to what you’re saying, UFC 140 needed a main event, and this was available. Seeing the injuries that happened that mess up main events and whatnot, I think that sometimes (not all the time) it’s best to put fights forward when they are available. Rashad Evans is not available, but Machida is. Let’s just say that they wait for the Evans vs Jones fight, but one of them gets injured, then the wait will be that much longer for the fans and those two fighters. The only drawback is if Jones loses to Machida, then the huge money fight of Jones vs Evans for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title will have lost its luster.
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You are 100% right
You’ve covered every angle, it makes sense, I am just shocked that they took Rashad’s title shot away from him again. His injury isn’t so terrible that he will be out for a very extended period, they could have delayed this fight for maybe 2 months. Having Jones fight for the title in less than 3 months after his last fight has to be some of the fastest turnaround for a title ever.
Basically what this situation says is
UFC 140 needing a main event > Rashad deserving his title shot
This will always, always be true...
UFC140XXX needing a main event >RashadAnyone deserving his title shot
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by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jones/Evans
will still sell a PPV just as well as a championship fight between them would IMO.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it would too actually. I should have said that it will have lost “some” of its luster. The Title would have just been icing on the cake along with this grudge match.
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Yeah,
well I love me some Lyoto, but it’s still pretty damn likely it’ll be for the title.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 6, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
So there really is nothing you won’t bitch about?
by Worldisart on Oct 6, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Christ on a cracker calm down buddy
Seriously it is a completely valid point, Rashad Evans has been number one contender, fought for his #1 Contender position again and now he is being denied?
http://mma.sbnation.com/2011/10/6/2473258/ufc-140-fight-card-jon-jones-lyoto-machida-mma-news
Here bitch at this guy, he knows how to write and his opinion matters more than mine and yours combined.
Rashad can go cry
to Yushin Okami and Jon Fitch about waiting to get his title shot.
"Serious sport is war minus the shooting."
George Orwell
I'm really not a fan of the personal attacks
But I have to agree with you this time World – this is a great fight, Evans is injured and can’t even start training for another 3 weeks. It gives 140 a great main event. Without resorting to insulting anyone, I think that the best thing to do is to enjoy this fight and let the Jones / Evans fight happen when Evans has had time to reach 100% for fighting the most difficult opponent he’s ever had.
So there really is nothing you won’t bitch about?
Seriously? That is rich coming from you, the reigning queen of bitching about things/people/comments around here…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
maybe he was just asking because he wanted a friend that would bitch about everything with him… why take it so negative
This is a good point,
and one I had not considered…perhaps it was more opening line than complaint…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If we can get just one
title holder to consistently fight the “standard” 3x per year…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t go there. I wrote this post (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/11/14/1814564/dana-has-to-stop-saying-the-best-fighters-in-the-world-fight-each) and sparked heated debate and a battle of mathletes.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
I stand somewhat corrected
Link doesn’t work for me, but I found it (guess I missed that one in real time).
Looking closer, Anderson has consistently fought 3 times over a moving 12 month basis (actually, from the time of any of his UFC fights, he has fought 2 more times over the next 12 months the entire time, save the Okami fight which missed by 20 days).
GSP did it up until he fought Alves, BJ did it some, albeit over 2 weight classes.
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Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Another reason why Anderson stands atop the MMA world. I don’t care how explosive Jones’ elbows are. He has a long way to go to match the Spider in my book.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Yeah he still has a ways to go to match Andy, but Andy is 12 years older than Bones and is getting closer to retiring every day. He’ll be 37 next year :O has there ever been a dominant fighter at that age? Who knows, Bones could go on an impressive 20 fight win streak over the next 8 years rematching Lyoto and Shogun twice each, smash Gustafson and Davis, and completely demolish Gegard, Mo and Hendo, or he could get Serra’d by Kingsbury 2 years from now…
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 7, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
The potential is certainly there, but as far as actual accomplishments, he needs another 4-5 fights before it is even worthy of a conversation.
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 7, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We can't have it both ways...
Either Couture is a legend in the sport and was a legit HW/LHW champion, or he isn’t.
If we hold that Couture was such a legend, than surly finishing him off in such spectacular fashion should = a title shot.
by Canis.Majoris on Oct 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
There's very few instances I can think of
Where a single win should earn any one a title shot.
:p - orcus
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I don't remember saying it never happens
I said there’s very few instance where it makes sense. Florian is a good one tho. Aldo needs the exposure. Faber….well, they just want a non-Cruz BW champ and aren’t doing much to hide that.
In this case, I think it makes more sense to wait for Rashad to heal, since he’s been the number 1 contender for a long ass time now and getting Machida another win solidifies his position as a contender.
:p - orcus
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I disagree. What makes more sense than waiting (forever) for Evans is for the UFC to make Jones fight as frequently as possible to make money. That’s what makes sense.
Evans isn't on the shelf for 6 months or a year like Rua was
If that were the case I’d totally agree with you. Jones is only taking 11 weeks of between fights. That’s a very quick turn around for a champ. There’s no reason they couldn’t wait for Rashad, other than to appease Hashmo.
I’m not against an active champion by any means, but that doesn’t make this move make sense.
:p - orcus
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besides appeasing hashmo there’s also appeasing the people that want to see the best fighters in the world fight, and making money, and letting the best fighters in the world fight, and about a million other reasons, but we should probably ignore all those to appease rashad.
Listen
I’ve already said I like the match stylistically. Machida is an elite LHW and I’m not saying otherwise. But it is ridiculous to act like the matchmaking is par for the course in any way. When was the last time any title was defended twice within 12 weeks?
Rashad is the number one contender. He was the number one contender waiting to fight shogun before he got injured. He was the number one contender after Jones took the belt and before Jones got “injured”. And he was the number one contender after Jones beat Rampage (that’s why they brought him into the octagon to spoil Jones “special night”.
:p - orcus
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I don't think Jones has a notion of what a 'special night' is supposed to be without Rashad mad dogging him somewhere, anymore.
The Internets: Where there are no girls and men become children.
he’s the number 1 contender, and he’s injured, so no one should really care about him.
Also, it’s too late now, but it would be nice if we could put a stop to this 3 weeks bullshit. He can start training in 3 weeks, that doesn’t mean he can take a fight 3 weeks after UFC 140.
Whining about top fighters fighting each other is moronic, stop doing it.
Did you miss the part where I said I like the match up???
And I specifically did NOT mention the 3 weeks. I said he’s not out for an extended period of time. An 11 week turn around for a champion is incredibly unusual, you can’t deny that. There’s absolutely no reason they couldn’t have done Jones/Evans under the typical timeline and had it lined up for January or the Super Bowl event.
:p - orcus
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there are tons of good reasons. Jones doesn’t want to wait, machida needs a fight, 140 needs a fight, etc, etc.
by Phildo on Oct 6, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I keep saying...
Bones needs to pay for his extravagant lifestyle, Bentley and all.
Aside from the Bentley joke, I think that he wants to prove himself to everyone. I don’t think that he would want to sit and rest if he was healthy – his ego has likely somehow taken a huge upturn after beating everyone that was a contender. I think that as along as he stays healthy, he’s happy to play the company line and bring in as much cashish as possible. Remember – he is still young. Priorities are different.
that and about a million other things.
Waiting is stupid, especially in this situation when waiting for a fight is what fucked this entire situation up in the first place.
Remember when Rashad waited for a fight? how’d that work out? Why would anyone wait for anything after that?
by Phildo on Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and the MAIN reason is:
JONES DOESN’T WANT TO FIGHT EVANS!
There, I said it.
by supermario305 on Oct 6, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC just can’t rely on Evans to be healthy for a fight in 3 months. That’s just a fact supported by Evans’s history over the last couple of years.
The UFC wanted a strong main event for their 2nd show in Toronto, Bones was ready to go, so they looked at the available options for him and Machida was it. Tough luck for Evans, but that’s life.
Brock Lesnar is one
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Oct 6, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
One fight winning streak!!
I love Machida, but he is in no way worthy of having a title fight after Crane kicking Randy’s teeth out.
by Christopher Kelly on Oct 6, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah! I remember just the other day when Machida beat Rampage.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
1 fight win streak
he lost to rampage remember
by alexmullen4180 on Oct 6, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
uh but he still lost, but don’t let the facts get in your way.
by alexmullen4180 on Oct 6, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Leonard!
Hope you’re ready to fight Nam AGAIN…you and Rampage go to the same church?
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by Brewtality55 on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
*ugh
The first two rounds were close
Judges gave the first two rounds to Rampage
Lyoto clearly won round 3
Rampage won the fight 2 rounds to 3. 2/3rds is greater than 1/3rd.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yep
Rampage won that fight.
Learn JiuJitsu.
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No
Rampage won the “game” not the “fight”
#dumbestargumentevermade
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by Chris Hall on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really you haven't heard that argument?
:p - orcus
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Sure Rampage won
The question is who’s the better fighter.
Read: Toblerone Jones
by Neil Manich on Oct 6, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Lyoto took the first round clearly,
he whalloped Page’s leg with round kicks for the first few minutes, and that was the only significant thing that happened for the entire period.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and that was the only significant thing that happenedfor the entire period.until the third round.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
true.
I thought the first was either Lyoto’s, or a draw. The second was a draw as well, and the 3’rd round a pretty clear round for Machida.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
the leg kick fetish
isn’t limited to Joe Rogan apparantly… lots of leg kick fetishists around these parts.
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by The Lethal Haze on Oct 6, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Not much damage coming from those…
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by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Lyoto was landing with his instep.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. The 1st round could be scored either way, based on the few leg kicks or based on aggression and not hitting Machida at all. 2nd for Rampage, 3rd for Machida, close fight.
"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."
Rampage actually landed 2-3 leg kicks in round 1 and pushed Lyoto against the cage and kneed his thighs a couple of times
What did Lyoto do that round? rnd 2 barely any action but Rampage landed a uppercut plus got a TD. rnd 3 no question who won that.= 2 rounds against 1 means Rampage won
by Mohammedini Hussein on Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I thought
Rampage won round 1 and Machida got 2 and 3. Very similar to Tito/Griffin 2 in that regard.
I didn’t have a huge issue with the score though.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
precisely... in round 1
Rampage’s dirty boxing while he had Machida clinched on the fence > Machida’s leg kicks and one knee to the body
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by The Lethal Haze on Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit, 2 rounds to 1
but you guys got what I was saying.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for explaining the basic idea behind the 10 point must system
alot of people around here fail to understand it.
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by The Lethal Haze on Oct 6, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
Love Machida and although he in many people minds beat Rampage he lost that fight technically ans shouldn’t get a shot at least not yet …… but he’s the biggest name outside of the always injured Rashad Evans
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A couture W gets you a title shot now?
by IRodC on Oct 6, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
Who else were they gonna give it to?
Forrest lost, Evans is injured, and Davis is injured. Rua’s fighting Hendo and he just beat Jackson.
I guess you could pull Hendo or Rua out to fight Jones, but Jones just beat Rua. And if you give Jones Hendo, what does Machida do, fight Rua a 3rd time?
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by IKiIIed007 on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It depends on how long Rashad is out. If he takes another fight before Jones and loses that big money fight is lost. If Rashad is out a long time I really hope ring rust doesn’t become a big problem for him.
Rashad should never take a fight before he fights for the title
there’s nothing to gain, unless he gets another Ortiz fight where you might argue avoiding ring rust is worth the slim chance that he loses the fight. Not many of those matchups out there, maybe Forrest.
Hendo should get it.
Rua and Machida should fight each other for relevance in the division and to establish a decent pecking order. No way that Machida deserves it more than Hendo.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Oct 6, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Done.
Hendo vs Jones
Machida vs Mousasi
Rua vs Thiago Silva
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Ooooo
Macida/Mousasi, interesting.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Evans really fucked up the division by sitting out so long.
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by IKiIIed007 on Oct 6, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Diego Sanchez rolled into Evans' knee
It’s Diego’s fault.
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by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
By rolled, do you mean YES cartwheeled?
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Jones hired Diego to injure Rashad
so he wouldn’t have to fight him.
Town Crier, I'd like to ask you a few questions. One, where's the fife? And two, gimme the fife.
Diego was his original spy.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
*A win over Rampage and Randy
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
HASHMO CAN STOP BITCHING AGAIN!!!
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Poor Rashad Evans
Honestly why is he being shafted like this, this is bizarre
no complaints for me because this is a solid unexpected fight
no complaints except the months of unnecessary complaints? Lucky us.
by Phildo on Oct 6, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if my inflammatory tweets are the reason Dana made this event
What if he was like “i must shut that stupid kid up”
THEN WHAT
I never thought of it like that
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Isn’t Rashad injured? I thought his hand was jacked up or something like that? I’m just glad that they’re proactive about trying to get the champs of their division to fight 3 times a year. And besides that, Bones needs some extra cake to make up for that 200k splurge that he just made.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to check BE to see when Jones and Rashad are fighting and...
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Oct 6, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 73 recs
Mine was more like me on Twitter during my lunch and I almost did a spit take. Luckily I didnt otherwise it’d be embarrassing.
Me > Ben Henderson
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by Krimson on Oct 6, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is one of the greatest gif's ever
K-1 Level Predictions Team
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
LOL!
Mind.
Blown.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
What is that gif from? 70's porn?
Learn JiuJitsu.
"Come on you sons of bitches, you wanna live forever!?" -- Dan Daly
I think I remember a BE member
saying it’s from an italian Spider Man show or something
but then maybe I just made that up too.
K-1 Level Predictions Team
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
I think I remember hearing that somewhere too.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Youtube search Italian Spiderman
Seeing that gif in context is so much funnier
K-1 Level Predictions Team
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Holy fucking dogshit.
so just for laughs I decided to YouTube Search “Italian Spiderman” and watched the first result (3:19 long)
DO IT holy christ I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.
K-1 Level Predictions Team
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
well i just watched said video
and im so glad that i did. literally just sitting alone at work laughing my balls off. “shut your mouth pussycat and find me a macchiado, PRONTO!”
by Beast Infection on Oct 7, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
hilarious right?!
I was sittin in my cubicle dying of laughter
K-1 Level Predictions Team
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
This is exactly how I felt
When Nate’s tweet came across. I was like “whaaaaaaaaattttttt!”
"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."
Add a few choice curses to that and that was basically my response. Complete and utter shit.
I’m sorry but this just comes off as another way to duck Rashad. It doesn’t matter if he is doing it for the money, doing it for the company, doing it for any reason other than that. It still comes off as his ducking Rashad to me.
by Empty Thoughts on Oct 6, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
This has to be a BE rec record?
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 7, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way, Jones vs. Machida is much more competitive than Jones vs. Evans
Machida can win this fight. Granted, leg kicks don’t win fights.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Not really
Jones could have beaten Machida 2 years ago when Machida was champ. Machida has absolutely nothing for Jones. Nothing.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
That's silly
Machida presents an interesting style matchup and one that may actually be able to counter the problems posed my Jones’ reach.
by Worldisart on Oct 6, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I’m a huge Machida fan and I think he gives Bones the most problems, but Jon is still gonna beat him up.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
by DayGeaux on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this i agree with
i expect machida to lose, but it would surprise me the least if he beat him. i give him a better shot than anyone else in the division
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones ran from Rampage
and said whatever it takes to win the fight in the post fight press conference. With Machida being a counter striker if Jones runs is Machida gonna win the rounds for octagon control? No cuz Jones will get a take down with 10 seconds left in every round to steal it. Jones is gonna become more and more like GSP as long as he is fighting elite LHWs.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Oct 6, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, Machida never runs from people and gets takedowns with 10 seconds left
DERP
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by FightingFighting on Oct 6, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t be silly.
Bones is finishing his fights more as he has stepped up in competition.
Right leg swelling, Left leg minor bruising
by Well Read Idiot on Oct 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably the best challenge to Jones in the whole division
Jones will be truly tested. If he wins this in the dominating fashion he usually wins fights, and I fear for Rashad when he does actually get his fight with Jones.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I still think Davis will be his biggest challenge once he is healthy. So much of Machida’s game is to move in, strike, and circle. I just don’t know how he does the “move in” part.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Fanboy detected.
The comment above you is correct.
by ultima0chaotic on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Of course I'm correct! Leg kicks mean nothing in MMA!
Oh you meant the other thing….
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Fanboy or no...
Machida is gonna get wrecked.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Not gonna lie
your crazy irrational love of Jones reminds me of the really over the top Fedor fans. It’s also kind of growing on me.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Dude
Jones would wreck prime Fedor.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's not irrational.
That’s like calling a love for Babe Ruth back in the day irrational.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
I'd debate this
but you can’t be rational about it ;)
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
That’s hilarious. A guy who defended his title once compared to the greatest player of a century plus year old sport. Wow!
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Fuck man
if Jones completely wrecks Lyoto like he did with Rampage and Shogun, then damnit he has to get that number 3 pfp spot. That makes three UFC veterans/legends that Bones would have completely demolished in one year! If that happens, who else is after Rashad? Hendo/Shogun winner?
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Rashad is the most sympathetic figure in this sport
If he doesn’t whine and cry about this
If your not ready to fight shut your $@&%ING mouth! - BJ Penn
What, excatly, was the point of dragging Rashad into the cage after Jones-Rampage?
That guy is getting really screwed.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
He should have told Dana he wasn't gonna be ready to fight for another 6 months or whatever.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
Maybe that changed.
I bet we hear something new about Rashad’s health/injury this week.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
To keep ruining Jone's special time
it can be a running joke… after every Jones victor… here comes RASHAD!
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by dbcb on Oct 6, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 17 recs
They should make Rashad wear a party hat and have a noise maker.... enter the ring like he just won.
Voovoozela?
--When you saw only one set of footprints, it was Herb Dean who carried you.
by hardlyworking on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
JSWO - Josh Scobey World Order 4 Life!
by Christian on Oct 6, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Perfect, thank you!
That’s the gif I was hoping for
--When you saw only one set of footprints, it was Herb Dean who carried you.
by hardlyworking on Oct 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched an episode of Jersey Shore
Snooki’s bf left her because she was dancing like ho in the club. Lol, dude was Ice Fucking Cold! He didn’t have to react like that!
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, yeah. Seemed like a bit of an overreaction. Like they said he should have known what he was getting himself into, she always does shit like that.. can’t turn a hoe into a housewife. Guess he learned it the hard way! (him and me both)
by Horselover Fat on Oct 6, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn bro
sorry about that.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 7, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry about it! I can only blame myself, I should have known better ;)
by Horselover Fat on Oct 7, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They'll bring Rashad in after this fight, too
And once again ruin Jon’s “special night.”
by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Oct 6, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The circle will only be complete if Jones beats Machida
And Evans beats Jones. Otherwise..the circle aint fucking complete
If your not ready to fight shut your $@&%ING mouth! - BJ Penn
there is no circle
jones is better than everyone
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
this
There’s a pyramid. At the top of the pyramid are Jackson, Evans, Rua, and Machida.
Hovering above the pyramid looking down with a smirk is Jones.
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
by IKiIIed007 on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is a circle
But there is no spoon
If your not ready to fight shut your $@&%ING mouth! - BJ Penn
There is a circle
"You either stand for something or fall for anything"
by MMA_Revolution on Oct 6, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't rec.
Comic Sans.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
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by alicks on Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
http://www.theonion.com/video/new-study-explains-why-comic-sans-font-so-hilariou,21202/
Town Crier, I'd like to ask you a few questions. One, where's the fife? And two, gimme the fife.
Dialogue of Jones vs Evans flipped a bit
Suga: You can’t win Bones, if you strike me down I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine.
Bones: The circle is now complete, when you left Jacksons I was but the learner, now I am the master.
PACIFIC RIM
in theaters
July 12th, 2013
by Chris Groves on Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude. Fucking Rashad is never going to get his shot.
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what the fuck is going on with rashad?
this kinda sucks
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Evans is in the gym right now getting phone calls, tweets, and satellite messages from overseas. He’s utterly flabbergasted.
“But I told them that my hand would be healed, I’ll be ready to fight.”
His mother calls him and tells him. “Don’t you worry, just keep knocking them down. Eventually the people will demand your title shot opportunity.”
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 6, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess Machida isnt being punished after all
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by POW on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is a complete WTF moment. It cannot be explained
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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by dandeman on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
Stared at that for a good minute
And I got nothing
If your not ready to fight shut your $@&%ING mouth! - BJ Penn
by warren305 on Oct 6, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That was a fun weekend
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by MattParker117 on Oct 6, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If it wasn’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year at college
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Good thing I got my sewing maching package from the UPS guy before he started his shooting spree and got PIT maneuvered by those police.
DONE.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
Didn't explain the tux.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"If your [BJJ] training involves any part of you or training equipment inside any of your partner’s orifices, you’re doing it wrong." - gzl5000
Or why they're talking calmly to the UPS driver instead of stomping his head.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"If your [BJJ] training involves any part of you or training equipment inside any of your partner’s orifices, you’re doing it wrong." - gzl5000
Doesn’t everybody wear a tux after 3:00 pm?
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
Finally an excuse to post this.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott
by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 6, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that guy was about to receive
a wedding gift for his future wife via UPS, but the damn truck driver was drinking on the job and drove into the side walk, resulting in his truck failing into a ditch, so he just said; “argh, gimme my gift, you”, and smiled to take a picture before heading back to the wedding.
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I think Machida is the only guy who has a realistic shot at beating Bones
If he can use his footwork, stay upright, and move in and out of the pocket. Machida can outpoint Jon Jones.
The chances are higher he can do it in a 3 round fight. But it still can be done.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I think Machida has the best chance of beating Jones on the feet, I don’t think he has the best chance of beating Jones in general. Machida has the best tools to deal with the range issue, but I’m not conviced that striking with a guy with Jones’ reach is the smartest path to victory.
@rask4p on Twitter
I agree
Machida can exploit the holes caused by Jones sometimes sloppy technique. Jones won’t be able to clinch with him either.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you just say that Jones won't be able to clinch with Machida?
Am I the only person on BE who has actually seen Jon Jones fight? WTH is going on here???
"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.
ba ha ha
it blows my mind how everyone is going to be the guy to “expose” jon jones.
news flash!!! jon jones has shown ZERO holes in his game so far. does that mean he will never lose? of course not. but if you claim to be seeing something in his game for anyone to “exploit” you are on crack.
i don’t think he’s lost a round in his whole goddamn career. the man coming off back to back losses to rampage and shogun is going to hang with him? sure, it’s not impossible, but it’s not likely either.
Dude
Jones is still not a powerful puncher and for a guy with a long reach he doesn’t jab well at all. Those are holes.
It’s just that he’s so good that he just goes to his strengths and proceeds to unleash hell.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i also think that he doesn’t exactly have a mastery over all those unconventional strikes he throws, and as a result he leaves himself wide open when he doesn’t connect or get his opponent to cover up. not saying he’ll win, but a technical fighter with good defense like machida who specializes in counter-attacks is the guy you’d want to exploit this.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Of course he doesn't have mastery over those strikes
He refused to train with Seagal.
Read: Toblerone Jones
The reason he doesn't jab is that he's found a better substitute
He’s replaced the jab with his longass legs and puts his chin even farther away. Jabs are just a backup plan if his opponent sneaks in.
by paythefighters on Oct 6, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nonsense. He just overcomes the ones he has.
jon jones has shown ZERO holes in his game so far.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
exactly. history has shown us that it’s pretty naive to view any fighter as perfect or impregnable, especially guys with unconventional styles like chuck, machida, and jones.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So.....
My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I’m just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children.
doesn’t apply?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
... but Lennox Lewis doesn't have any kids
When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON
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by The Lethal Haze on Oct 6, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot the last line, which I think is the best part.
My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I’m just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"If your [BJJ] training involves any part of you or training equipment inside any of your partner’s orifices, you’re doing it wrong." - gzl5000
Oh, by all means I still think Jones will win this fight.
I’m just saying that Machida is the toughest match-up for him stylistically.
If we see the old school, vintage Machida that fought Thiago Alves, Tito and Rashad back in 2008. I think he can be very competitive with Bones.
It just comes down to how crisp his footwork, range striking and TDD are on that particular night.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Machida fought Thiago Alves?
Also, he fought Rashad in 2009.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Thiago Silva
Though he would have smashed Thiago Alves just the same.
I was more alluding to the “Machida Era” where he seemed unbeatable in the UFC from that Sokoju fight until he ran up against Shogun.
He looked to be the most dominant LHW in UFC history during an 18 month period.
Jones looks even more dominant over the last 18 months.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
i don’t think he’s lost a round in his whole goddamn career.
He HAS lost a round. To Stephan Bonnar, no less.
He is just making a point, the guy above made an incorrect statement, and skeebop is just correcting him, he isn’t trying to say anything about Jon Jones’ skills, abilities, or evolution as a fighter, so don’t take it as anything other than a correction. The part about losing a round to fucking Stephan Bonnar was made because, well its kind of funny that the champ lost a round to him, even if he isn’t nearly the same fighter he is now.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott
by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida’s game largely revolves around avoiding the clinch, as he doesn’t allow his opponents to get inside on him and will punish you if you try to force it. But sure, if anybody can do it it’ll be Jones.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida is pretty beast in the clinch. Jones couldn’t toss Rampage around. I don’t think that he’ll be able to throw around Machida.
by discoandherpes on Oct 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He couldn't toss Rampage around in part because Rampage was playing pure defense in the clinch
And even still, he managed to take him down from the clinch and choke him out. A much smaller Machida should probably look to avoid clinching with Jones.
Not afraid to nitpick
Agreed
Machida needs to ride his bicycle and try to point karate a decision from Bones. Dance in and out of the pocket and try and work kicks against Bones’ legs. That is his path to victory IMHO.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Not that it’s guaranteed, but a win by Bones here would cap off one of the most impressive calender years in mma. He’d have wins over #4 (Machida), #3 (Rampage), #1 (Shogun), and top 10 Bader. The only year I can think of that would compare would be Shogun’s 05 where he beat Rampage, Lil Nog, Overeem and Arona. The years are pretty similar, and not just because they both beat Rampage. Both were their breakout years that featured their first big wins.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Dana basically just told Rashad to bend over. I’m loving this. Fucking loving it. I don’t care if it is fair or not.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
ehhh . . . . personally I could care less if another fighter REALLY deserves the title shot
because TWO of my favorite fighters are competing in the main event. That is all that really matters to me. Go JONES vs MACHIDA!
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I don't know why, but I enjoy watching Dominic Cruz win.
by VeeisAnimated on Oct 6, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So care less!
Frankly I couldn’t care less.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
yes, I often make that mistake. I’ll report to grammar jail for 30 days.
THANKS!
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember to write the full words and its contraction 50 times each. It's and it is. now start
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Whoah wtf…
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
I suppose that UFC 140 needed a strong main event, and this is one of the only options available to them. I am a huge fan of Machida, but he hasn’t earned a second Title shot yet. However, I do feel that Machida proves to be an interesting stylistic matchup for Jones.
If you look at it another way, MMA fans wanted Jones to fight Machida and Evans eventually, so now they are getting the fights that they wanted to see. If Machida wins though, the huge money fight of Evans vs Jones for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title loses a lot of luster.
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by chavez_26 on Oct 6, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
ROAD HOUSE
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Forget the haters
I still love Family Guy!
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love waking up, turning on the ol’ laptop, and just getting sheer what the fuckery.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
For the record, this is the 5th time Rashad has had a fight moved back
Or cancelled.
Evans vs. Liddell was supposed to happen at UFC 85 and didn’t due to injury on Liddell. Rampage vs. Evans at 107 was pushed back due to TUF and Rampage on The A-Team.
Evans vs. Davis became Evans vs. Ortiz. Evans vs. Shogun obviously became Jones vs. Shogun. Now Jones vs. Evans has become Jones vs. Machida. This part is all just in 2011.
And Rashad is screwed. If Jones loses does anyone really think Evans would stand a chance against Machida a 2nd time?
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Jones will win, Rashad will come in the cage. Rashad will get a fight with Bones, only to get injured and get replaced by Chuck Liddell since all LHWs will be tied up and no one but the Iceman will be available. Boom.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rashad is quickly becoming the cage troll.
by spectaa on Oct 6, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rashad is going to start living under the octagon and emerging after every fight wearing a tattered three piece suit to challenge the winner to a title match, only to crawl back to the depths without ever fighting.
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by Not Hauser on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 11 recs
Too bad Evans
He doesn’t have a money in the bank briefcase cause that’s the only way he’ll beat jones.
"You a big orange Imma put you in the fridge!" -Stanley Robinson in response to my heckling
Are cage trolls
the MMA equivalent of lot lizards?
by Damnatio Memoriae on Oct 6, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Liddell vs. Jones would fulfill Jonathan Snowden's genius suggestion from last year.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
I believe Evans vs James Irvin and Evans vs Thiago Silva were canceled at some point also due to injuries.
Can Evans defeat Machida? Sure. He acknowledged his mistakes in their first fight and their rematch would definitely look different.
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I don't know why, but I enjoy watching Dominic Cruz win.
by VeeisAnimated on Oct 6, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Evans vs. Irvin was supposed to headline UFC 85
After two other headliners were gone. Then Irvin got injured as he usually does.
Evans vs. Silva I think was the only fight at UFC 108 that never got hit.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Lets not forget that initially Evans vs Rampage was the co-main of 113
In the early days…and Evans vs Davis at 133 was initially conceived as Jones vs Evans…
Evans is just all over the place.
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I think they had always planned to move Evans vs. Rampage to 114
Because of Kos vs. Daley.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there
I remember being kinda peeved when I found out the two LHW fights I was wanting to see so bad were split between two cards.
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I’d be a little mad that Rashad isn’t fighting him if it wasn’t so damn funny to follow the Ballad of Rashad. It’s been such a ridiculous string of events that you just gotta sit back and laugh.
Jones vs Machida is a fantastic fight though. Wins over Machida and Evans would put Jones as one of the best LHWs of all time.
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by Tim Bernier on Oct 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If Jones beats Machida and Evans after everyone else he's beaten recently,
who else anywhere has a chance at beating him?
You just gotta hope someone like Davis or Gustaffson has an amazing transformation or something. Hendo is an intriguing fight. Maybe King Mo a couple years down the line? Pickings are slim, that’s for sure.
"I have reached an age when, if someone tells me to wear socks, I don't have to."- Albert Einstein
Dana called out the media earlier for not reporting that Evans had “pins under his thumbs”. Possible unreported broken thumb?
Me > Ben Henderson
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by Krimson on Oct 6, 2011 12:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm the only Rashad fan here, huh?
I like the Jones/Machida fight…. But I liked it a lot more when I thought it would happen after Rashad got his chance.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
I like Rashad. He is a good guy, well-spoken, beast of an athlete. It just happens to be hilarious to watch someone get fucked over and over and over and over again.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Why is that hilarious to you?
Seems like bad karma to take such pleasure in someone else’s misfortune.
Karma can take a hike. I enjoy other’s misfortunes and take no shame in admitting that.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hilarious
Karma can take a hike. I enjoy other’s misfortunes and take no shame in admitting that.
best thing I’ve read all day. You might be my new hero.
Seriously. If you can’t enjoy other people’s failure, you just take things too damn seriously. That, or you just haven’t come to grips with the perks of being an asshole.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
A man after my own heart is mountaineers101, Joe.
KEMvP
"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
I've seen this happen with another fighter I really like too.
I can’t share the humor, though I’d like to. I love MMA clusterfucks in the news as much as the next guy.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol Fitch, I thought it was obvious.
But hardly anyone likes watching him fight, and he’s not a draw. This Rashad thing is a real head-scratcher. That feud between them was money in the bank.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure got bitched at one day for saying Rashad was well-spoken.
Cody McKenzie’s white, so he’s gotta be well-spoken, am I right?
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’d rather have Rashad on MMA Live than McKenzie. His trash-talk against Koscheck legitimately made me question whether or not McKenzie made it past elementary school.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude sounds half-slow anytime he opens his mouth.
Not only does he say dumb things, it takes forever for him to say it. But I expect that from people who get punched in the head for a living. Which makes it so nice to see dudes like Rashad and Florian who are articulate speakers.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as people hate Miguel’s shtick, I like almost every fighter they’ve brought onto MMA Live. I didn’t like Stann’s run on it too much due to him just having a really bland personality, but he is definitely knowledgeable about the fight game and very articulate.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I much prefer the nice intelligent analysis fighters have on MMA Live versus Bas doing his tired El Guapo schtick on Inside MMA. I like Bas, but he’s really went all out with that character in the past couple years.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even mind Bas. I just prefer Jon Anik to the unholy death upon the eyes, ears, and brain that is Kenny Rice.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
"well-spoken"
I hate this shit. Did anyone ever call Randy Couture “well-spoken”?
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
No
But I did say it once about Chuck Liddell
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
That was quite a few fights ago, I am sure.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Boo.
Personally, I’m surprised any time someone who gets struck in the head repeatedly as part of his job is well spoken.
Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
Hey, me too
but I never notice people mentioning it unless they are black. Grinds my gears.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
You know what really grinds my gears
This Lindsay Lohan. Lindsay Lohan with all those little outfits, jumping around there on stage, half-naked with your little outfits. Ya know? You’re a… You’re out there jumping around and I’m just sitting here with my beer. So, what am I supposed to do? What you want? You know, are we gonna go out? Is that what you’re trying to – why why are you leaping around there, throwing those things all up in my, over there in my face? What do you want, Lindsay? Tell me what you want? Well, I’ll tell you what you want, you want nothing. You want nothing. All right? Because we all know that no woman anywhere wants to have sex with anyone, and to titillate us with any thoughts otherwise is – is just bogus.
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Oct 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Fuck that
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Well, sorry that you feel I used it as an exclusive term for black people. I use it for anyone with the ability to articulate well in the MMA world. I find that a decent amount of fighters are not well-spoken and Rashad really is. I don’t know. Not all people are out to play the race game.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve mentioned numerous times in the past about how articulate Florian and Chael are. It also grinds my gears when I get lumped in the same category as these other people you’re referring to. I even said the same thing Richard did above in my comment about McKenzie; that I’m surprised when any fighter knows how to formulate a coherent sentence structure Lumping me in the same category as all the other people you’re referring to is stereotyping, which coincidentally is one of the major aspects of racism.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I hadn't realized
that I lumped you in with anyone. You seem to be touchy about it which might indicate something, though.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Well you said
“well-spoken”
I hate this shit. Did anyone ever call Randy Couture "well-spoken"?
And…
but I never notice people mentioning it unless they are black.
After I’d already posted this in the comment section:
But I expect that from people who get punched in the head for a living. Which makes it so nice to see dudes like Rashad and Florian who are articulate speakers.
Florian’s not black, right? That’s all I was saying, man.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Florian is Peruvian though
Which… means… Ugh. Pinning racism on someone is hard work.
Shit
To clarify – if they’re not racist, it’s hard work. Covering my ass is also difficult.
Try wearing sweatpants.
Those come in big sizes and are pretty strechy.
Or a muumuu.
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would you rather hear that “particular black fighter” is an explosive or athletic speaker.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Oct 6, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'd laugh
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Nice, i thought you were getting a little soap boxy. i was wrong.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Oct 6, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Whenever I try to get on a soap box
it collapses under my girth.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Haha, I tend to use the term well-spoken when…someone speaks well.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
...yes?
Wasn’t that a huge part of his appeal? That he could intelligently represent the sport, while beating people he shouldn’t?
I guess
but I seriously never heard ANYONE ever say he was “well-spoken” and he IS “well-spoken” which is why I brought him up.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I'm a Rashad fan
And this stinks.
by Worldisart on Oct 6, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No
But that’s because I don’t think you’re a good writer.
by Worldisart on Oct 6, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
EXACTLY
I liked that timeline a LOT better for everyone involved. This just fucks everything up.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
not at all sir
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by LRaunThaDamaja on Oct 6, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, this is fucked up man.
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Na, I think he good as well.
I am absolutely convinced he would beat Jones.
I think his speed advantage could make the difference.
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i might be in the minority, but i think Jones vs Machida is a more competitive fight than Jones vs Rashad
it sucks that Rashad has to wait even longer for his title shot, but Dana had promised the fans a legit main event at UFC 140 and he delivered.
I can’t wait for the fight, it will be sick!
Toronto UFC fans are so friggin spoiled.
UFC hasn’t even been to Chicago in like 3 years if I remember correctly, and the 1 Indy event we had was dreadful.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You know why we're spoiled?
Because the UFC is a mainstream sport here. Come to Toronto on any given Saturday night with a UFC event and the bars are packed at $10 a head to see the fights.
The Midwest is a hotbed for MMA...
At least it used to be.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
MMA is the clear cut number two here, it would be an injustice if we didn't get spoiled.
Fitch's clinch.
by kneetothebody on Oct 6, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm from Mississippi
we get…Battle of the Bands *cough
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by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Southaven represent!!!
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
lol!
North Jackson/Ridgeland area!
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool
I’m across the border in Memphis now. But I lived in the Haven from 2005-2008. Still trek out there from time to time.
Pleased to meet you fellow fight nerd.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
same here
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by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Bones defeat Machida only to have Evans enter the ring and ruin his special night again to complete the 3rd forced stare-down for a fight that wont happen?
sidenote: Jones is the hardest working man in MMA. 4 fights in 10 months.
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." - Gandhi
Roy Nelson finally cuts down to LHW.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, especially for a top contender who became champ
I had been critical in the past of champions barely getting in two fights a year, so I’m glad to see a change of pace at least on some front.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/8/10/2356473/room-for-improvement-should-champions-fight-more-often
You see up and comers fighting 3-4 times a year a lot, I think in 2010 guys like Phil Davis and Jim Miller had 4 fights…but it’s pretty rare once you hit the top and there are few guys on your level.
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I'm very anxious to hear what Rashad has to say
Obviously he’s still hurt, but it almost seems as though UFC wanted to get Jones on this card no matter what. Can’t King Mo fight Machida or something? I just don’t like what this does to the 205 timeline. This fight should have been for the winner of Jones/Rashad.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
what is this i don't even
this much we know – machida is offically not being punished for asking for “anderson silva” money.
i don’t know why they wouldn’t wait a couple months to put the jones/rashad fight together, and just have machida fight one of the strikeforce guys or something.
except for the part that faking an injury and taking a fight are complete opposite things.
by Phildo on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rashad basically said: “he’s going to try to get out of fighting me.”
that is arguably what happened. he is going for a very quick turn around and taking a fight against a guy who is lower down on the list instead of waiting a month or two to fight the real #1 challenger.
the guy just bought a Bentley
he better get in the goddamn cage and start fighting people. The champion doesn’t sit on the shelf because the contender is hurt. He fights when he wants and he fights whoever they put in front of him. As long as Jones keeps winning eventually Lucy (Dana White) is going to give Charlie (Rashad) a kick at the ball. There is no point whining about fights getting moved.
"Serious sport is war minus the shooting."
George Orwell
Because Jones has clearly demonstrated that he is against quick turn arounds?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How does this get him out of fighting Rashad?
Is he going to lose to Machida on purpose so he doesn’t have to fight Rashad? Can’t believe people are giving Jones grief for fighting MORE.
Seems like a paradox.
If something’s ironic, that means the actual outcome was different or opposite than expected. However if something’s prophetic, than the expected outcome came true. Don’t think it can be both. Head asplode.
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by POW on Oct 6, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF
so lame but I do want rashad to predict my future
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by the jewish conquistador on Oct 6, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
How long will it take for Rashad's hand to heal?
I think Jones really wanted to get in this card knowing Rashad hasn’t healed. He is clearly ducking Rashad. After this fight with machida , it’s Jones’ turn to get injured. What a sneaky sneaky kid.
GSP Jones is Exposed
Jones is an arrogant sneaky ducking clown
by Imaginary Enemy on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Harold Howard-esque is Jon Jones in his arrogance, Imaginary Enemy.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone
would really suggest Jones is a “pussy”. But he is clearly ducking Rashad for one reason or another.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Yep. You are quite right. Jon Jones IS exposed!
by Johann on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
WTF!!!!!
"I don't think strength plays that big of a difference. If it's that big of a difference, then the elephant would be the king of the jungle, not the lion."- Anderson "The Spider" Silva
Stop it
I would rather just see the mans ass then see this stupid fucking “artsy” picture again. Fuck.
by Hans Sprungfeld on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
LOOOOOOL
FART
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by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 6, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rashad's hand is preventing him from training for 3 weeks
We’re basically down to just 1-1.5 months between Rashad being healed and Jones fighting. Unless Jones gets a bad injury, Rashad will barely have to wait at all from the earliest that he’d be ready.
by paythefighters on Oct 6, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But what about all the hand-wringing
over Lyoto being “punished” for daring to “speak-out” and demand more money?
Where’s Smoogy?
Okay I hate to be that guy
But I think Jones vs. Machida is being done because they need good PPV numbers to make up for their very bad stretch of buyrates from UFC 130-135. Machida has pretty much always drawn well and Bones is going to headline a card that doesn’t suck on paper.
The UFC is actually going to have 16 PPVs compared to 15 last year.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I figured it came down to money one way or another.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, and two more events PPVs with title fights
Last year was
111
112
113
116
117
118
121
124
this year we had/will have
125
126
128
129
132
134
135
136
137
140
They are really trying to close strong to make up for the drop in buyrates.
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I thoguth that machida wasn’t a draw like at all
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by Bobillarious on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would be really shocked if your theory is wrong
I’m a little surprised more people don’t see it this way.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Oct 6, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Rashad should be happy.
If Bones wins this then fights Rashad it means that if Rashad wins he wouldn’t have to fight Machida right away.
by Rob Young on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Umm.
So I take back all my bitching about Machida not getting a fight. This is a shock. If Rashad can’t fight, then Lyoto was definitely the best choice, and IMO the one with the best chance to beat Jon, unlikely though it may be.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
rashads tears
taste so good.
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I’m glad I have a fellow douchebag to confide in.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
no
that was the ‘i made you eat your parents’ episode
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I never knew Archer watched South Park
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I can imagine that Archer probably appreciates South Park. It really is too bad about his freshman red shirt midi though :(
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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's kinda
gross.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That's kinda
RACIST
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"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm black
I used to look like this nappy head mofo 20 years ago.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Pics or it didn't happen
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Shit, it worked.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 7, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hohoho!
What do you call that hairstyle, a muffin top? Pure awesome right there
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 7, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Mother of Fuck
This is awesome for everyone but Rashad
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
I don't know
The UFC has done an excellent job of preventing a televised slaughter from happening by not setting up Jones vs. Evans.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
The fuck?
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
Phil Davis, Alexander Gustafsson, King Mo, and Gegard Mousasi.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Henderson yes, Shogun no
If Fitch can’t rematch GSP, Shogun can’t rematch Jones.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Fitch..
doesn’t have a handy, built-in excuse for his poor performance. He’s also not a fan-favorite like Rua.
I don’t think the fight would go much differently, but you’re crazy if you think the UFC would treat Rua the same as Fitch.
Shogun KOed Machida despite a knee injury
I think Shogun’s excuse has been thrown out of the window.
They’ll give Shogun a shot when Jones isn’t a champion.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Chuck. Liddell.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and Mark Coleman.
Signed, Pick'em Champs 2011-2012: Michael Jordanesque in our picking skills.
by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I prefer to call him Moobs Coleman.
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 6, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referring to the gif of him
shadowboxing in front of the wall of lights.
One of my favorite gifs.
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i particularly like the knee he throws in there.
"Hi. I don't know you." - me
"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva
by POW on Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And Dana White in a boxing match
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
:O Wait, What!?
and now I shall proceed to read the article.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
I guess I could be a rec-whore and post a zany reaction gif on this high traffic post so I can go green on the Internet and feel great about myself, but I’m too pissed for that. Lyoto is 1-2 in his last three. He lost (albeit controversially) to the man who JBJ just mercked. Rashad will be back in three weeks, why couldn’t they just postpone the fight?? This is BS fudge you Dana War Rashad if you ever get to fight
"Well, whatever you do, however terrible, however hurtful, it all makes sense, doesn't it, in your head. You never meet anybody that thinks they're a bad person."
by JJB73 on Oct 6, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 9 recs
I’m going to rec your post anyhow because by saying you aren’t going to be a rec whore you totally are being a rec whore.
Now dance… dance for your recs.
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 17 recs
Huzzah! Recs all around.
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Oct 6, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d F U Mania
"Well, whatever you do, however terrible, however hurtful, it all makes sense, doesn't it, in your head. You never meet anybody that thinks they're a bad person."
by JJB73 on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Any good explanation why Rashad isn’t getting this fight? Seriously, this is some bull shit.
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
Injury
Dana said something about him still havin pins in his thumb yesterday
:p - orcus
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Well that can fuck right off.
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Valid point
:p - orcus
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I thought so too.
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Oct 6, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me
of Trailer Park Boys.
"The fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection."
Frank Edgar is getting a shot for beating Matt Veach, hahahahahahaha what a joke.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
lulzpwnd.
-AboveThisFire
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
He really got that shot for beating Sherk the fight before. When it still meant something to beat Sherk.
Read: Toblerone Jones
Well they were going to give him Kurt Pellegrino originally anyway on the same TUF Finale card
They plucked him out of a crowd because he was meant to be fresh meat for BJ Penn to feast upon.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
The UFC and a lot of whiners wanted a 'real' main event for UFC 140
They need to close this year out strong as far as buys goes…they need a rebound. They needed this card to have a stronger main event…they know that unless they set up a big #1 contender match, or at least a top contender match, then they can’t expect a non-title headliner to perform well.
They are trying to give us consistently strong cards.
I’m not sure what would have resulted in more complaining, Rashad not getting his title shot again or UFC 140 ‘Being a weak total shitbag card with no main event’
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by Chris Groves on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Every PPV the rest of the year now has a strong main event
Edgar vs. Maynard III, GSP vs. Condit, Shogun vs. Hendo, Bones vs. Machida, Brock vs. Overeem.
Excellent.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Indeed
One thing we can agree on.
I also think I saw you mention that Machida was a bigger challenge for Jones. I also agree with that 1000%
I am a massive fan of both Jones and Machida and can’t wait to see them fight and I don’t care who wins.
Machida is the original and currently only author of the stanky leg…that will forever make him a hero of mine…watching him destroy Evans was fantastic.
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You are 100% right!
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Don't bitch about a decision unless you have another solution
There is no one else for Jones to fight. He shouldn’t have to sit out 6 months+ waiting for Rashad if he wants to defend his belt sooner. Machida has lost 2 of his last 3, but he is clearly an elite LHW who Bones hasn’t beaten yet, and there simply isn’t any other options. IMO Machida is the one guy at LHW who could challenge Jones.
Rashad is only 3 weeks out from returning to training
So it’s not like they couldn’t push Jones next defense back a month or so. That wouldn’t have put Jones on the shelf for longer than what is normal for a defending champ at all and would have made more sense for the division as a whole.
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does three weeks out from returning to training mean that he was only a month behind, or does it mean that, after a substantial time off due to injury, surgery, and recovery, he is finally ready in three weeks to return to training and get back in shape, after which he can begin his training camp for the fight with Jones?
I’m not being sarcastic here, I just don’t think this time line is realistic based on what little knowledge I have. It seems to me that given the huge potential for marketing, the UFC would have made this fight happen if they could have. Jones vs Machida is a nice way of filling in the time without the Evans fight.
Yeah
it may not be only 3 weeks before training camp. But the point still stands that waiting til late Jan or Feb wouldn’t be an unreasonable time between title defenses. At all. In fact, late september to early december is a much more unusual duration between title defenses.
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
The guy does have a Bentley to pay for...
But yeah, the frequency of Jones fights seems to be a bit… well, frequent. I am not complaining about that, and I can’t imagine that Evans didn’t have any input into this (sweet double negatives). Even so, it’s a really nice match even if Evans did get pushed out of the picture again.
Agreed, I don't mind the match up at all (aside from Machida only being on a single fight winning streak)
I just didn’t get the argument that they HAD to find someone for Jones to fight.
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
He made it up
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Hendo.
Machida should be fighting Rua for relevance and Hendo should be fighting Jones next.
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
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by F'n Clownshoes on Oct 6, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Match was already booked, plus Machida and Rua have already fought twice. And it seems Dana prefers Hendo to challenge for the 185 belt.
booked matches can easily be changed
it’s not official until the contracts are signed or Dana says so, which sucks cause Dana needs to change his mind about this.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Oct 6, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
still pretty easy to change at that point
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no it’s not. If you change a main event that people have bought tickets for without an injury you are just asking for trouble.
your right
main events are locked in once posters are made. just ask nick diaz.
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Oct 6, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think the UFC likes to have a current UFC fight before most title matches. While Hendo definitely has proven his worth outside of the UFC (and by half killing Bisping), I think he needs to (from a UFC standpoint) show he is worthy by beating a contender before being given the title shot. Otherwise, how could the UFC say that they have the best fighters, when a Strikeforce champion potentially jumps in and wins the UFC title without any recent company fights?
I doubt Dan Henderson invites that line of thinking
UFC fans are familiar enough with him to know that he’s not just some Strikeforce champion, he’s fought and proved himself in the UFC before, and was never considered past his time before leaving
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Don’t bitch about a decision unless you have another solution
The one thing that could work is to give Evans the option of taking the fight with Jones at UFC 141. He would have an eight week camp before then. If its not enough, then he’ll have to weight until the Super Bowl show most likely, depending on how much damage Machida or Jones take.
If it was enough time, though, you could move Lesnar/Overeem up to be the main event for 140, then have Jones/Evans as the main event for 141.
Machida/Davis (if he’s healed) or Machida/King Mo (if they want to bring him over) could be the co-main. You could even put Rampage/Forrest II on the 141 card for a little more name recognition.
Outside of that, this is the only choice they had to make 140 a PPV-worthy show.
"A guy in Texas came up to me and told me ‘Frye you're not mixed martial arts, you're no holds barred’, and I said you're god damn right partner." ~ Don Frye
I’m guessing Evans was consulted in one way or another before this decision. I doubt Dana would just completely circumvent him and slide another guy into his spot.
yeah, agreed. I’m also guessing that’s why there’s nothing coming from Rashad’s camp right away. he probably ends up fighting Phil Davis at the Super Bowl show and the winner of that fights Machida/Jones for the title in Ma or June.
"A guy in Texas came up to me and told me ‘Frye you're not mixed martial arts, you're no holds barred’, and I said you're god damn right partner." ~ Don Frye
I for one
LOVE this fight!
Rashad, yes, deserves the fight. Meh.
It doesn’t matter to me who Lyoto beat last. Is he awesome? Yes. Will he gameplan specifically for Bones? Yes.
Will it be an awesome fight? Fuck yes!
--When you saw only one set of footprints, it was Herb Dean who carried you.
by hardlyworking on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
...
This is usually the part where I tell everyone that there is no spoon. Do not think of it as a reach disadvantage, but instead think of it as space that has been filled. There is other space to go because space is infinite. I hope he does well, but this Agent Smith is the biggest and baddest Agent Smith ever. God Speed Lyoto, God speed.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
by DayGeaux on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
RomoShop?
Is that where I can buy all of the footballs he’s either fumbled or intercepted?
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by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No no completley different. He keeps those in a big glass jar next to his balls at Jerry Jones’ house.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
by DayGeaux on Oct 6, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Romoshop" originated on the Sherdog forums,
because of how the Brazilians (Portugese, really) pronounce their R’s as H’s. Thus it’s pronounced “homoshop”.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So it came from something that alluded to homos?
What about about that Tony Romo that I’ve read somewhere before? I thought that was a real person..
I thought Neo was Mr. Anderson? I must have seen a different movie..
by Johann on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Nice
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
I see what you did there
but that dude you made there is an agent, not mister anderson, just a guy who says mr. anderson
by nevergoasstomouth on Oct 6, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Lyoto....you ready for the thunder?!
Learn JiuJitsu.
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by RolloTomasi on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Really stoked to see this in every Jones thread
The most embarrassing picture since Kobe took those white scarf pics.
Read: Toblerone Jones
There's like, a whole ESPN the magazine issue every year with lots of athletes doing equally ridiculous naked stuff
Not afraid to nitpick
I lol'd at the one with the naked dude on the tire swing
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The most embarrassing picture in MMA is still Anderson Silva with Justin Bieber.
by M.Sphinx on Oct 6, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ahahahaha
Bieber would so get his ass kicked with that stance! He just looks so awkward, he’d catch body shots all day.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The fuck is wrong with you Rollo?
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
by Chris Hall on Oct 6, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not like that, spectaa
Not like that
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Lies!
Who doesn’t have sexual feelings for a man whose arms are bigger than his legs?
Learn JiuJitsu.
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What the HELL is this?
And why would you assume anybody would want to see it? I was happy before I saw this… HAPPY.
look away
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by RolloTomasi on Oct 6, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
LOL!
Rollo’s trolling the thread with naked Bones, almost literally!
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And he is probably hard in this pic, considering you don’t see the goods hanging anywhere. Was it taken today?
I think this is 'shopped
Because someone as explosive as him could probably have his dong dropping near the pool.
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by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
that's not his left arm
it’s his dong thrown over his shoulder
by Ikuhisa Quinoa on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
LOL!!!
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Two guys pissing off a bridge,
first man remarks “Water’s cold.” The second man adds “And deep, too!”
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Is his left arm covering something... dangling?
Now you’ve done it.
This makes me see this JPG in a new light
Left leg, yes. But still…
That fight really emphasized how ridiculously long Jones is
Bader would literally have to double his arm length to counter Bones here…
by paythefighters on Oct 6, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Jones isn’t really even in his own range, his foot is short of Bader’s head.
Not afraid to nitpick
I don’t think Jones being six inches closer would take anything away from my point. This was Leben-Silva levels of absurdity.
by paythefighters on Oct 6, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he's just holding it up with his other hand.
Also, this discussion…
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by Firm1 on Oct 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the whole thing! BALLSAND SHAFT!
…oh. you meant where in the building…
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Oct 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
STOP POSTING THIS!
AND STOP REC’ING THIS!!!
Me > Ben Henderson
@KrimsonTVN
DIA2ill.com coming soon....
K
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by RolloTomasi on Oct 6, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Why do you have to do that? That's totally inappropriate!
by Johann on Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Get away from my mind! GO AWAY!
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott
by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 6, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I look at this and it just makes me want to see an LT job to JBJ’s Joe Theismann.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Rashad was only on a two fight winning streak when he earned his fight against Rua
That never came.
Read: Toblerone Jones
And both fights he was clearly winning
He nearly got KTFO’d in the 3rd.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Yes
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Uh yeah I said this right after UFC 135
Rashad and Jones aren’t ever going to fight! This whole beef is fake for them not to fight!
Did you guys like how we didn’t even get a good excuse this time?
Where’s the D/A Neil?!?!
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Awesome Fight
Machida has an unavenged KO victory over the number one contender, has a great record, and will be available to fight in timely fashion.
Not to mention, he’s a better fighter than Rashad and will make this a better fight, and happen sooner rather than later. Rashad will get his chance, and he may even get his rematch with Lyoto for the title. I’m sure he would rather avenge his only loss for the title anyway.
Well, this was unexpected
Mixed emotions. In a way I don’t see why they couldn’t wait a month and make the Rashad fight, but on the other hand it’s awesome too see Jones back in action so soon again! I’ve also really been wanting Lyoto to get in there and fight him, I just wasn’t expecting it to come so soon. Overall, I really can’t complain about this, sick fight!
Oh and a message for Rashad:
by Horselover Fat on Oct 6, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
The Future
So If Jones beats Machida .. then beats Rashad .. who are potential contenders after that ??? Gustafsson/Davis/Mousassi/Feijao/Lawal .. LHW will be the next MW division ..
We'll have some exciting rematches, though
We had too many forced contenders at MW (Lutter, Leites, Cote, Maia) in a desperate bid to avoid rematches. These LHW guys are much more beloved by MMA fans, so the UFC won’t be (or at least shouldn’t be) avoiding them.
by paythefighters on Oct 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana tweet
rashad hurt dickhead. Evans is Hurt, Hendo is fighting shogun and Davis is hurt. U have to be a fuckin moron not to love machida vs jones.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Ha!
I read that as Rashad hurt his… uh… gentleman’s area.
by dxwr on Oct 6, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Same here
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Agree 100%
If Both Evans and Davis are Hurt and Everyone else is bucked its the only option less.
We Get a Better Fight, Jones back in Action real soon, and 140 is gonna be a legit fucking card.
What else do people want?
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Can we start a game where we try to pick out quotes from Dana White, the millionaire public face of a major company vs quotes from angry youtube commenters living in their parent’s basement? I think it would be a lot harder than it seems.
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by Day Man on Oct 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Rec’d. Sometimes he’s incredibly articulate and right on, other times he makes his point like a 15-year-old online gamer who’s just lost.
When is Dana ever incredibly articulate?
In the press releases that are obviously written by Zuffa staff publicists?
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 6, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
holy shit that's brilliant
I bet you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
by Body Triangle on Oct 6, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I ain't got a problem with this fight
But Rashad would be ready in like three more weeks.
Read: Toblerone Jones
do we know that? He can’t start training for 3 weeks, that doesn’t mean he’d be able to fight 3 weeks after UFC 140
It's irrelevant
They need/want a title fight for 140. who else can do it?
Bones/Machida is it
And you know this for a fact, right? Oh, and you also know for a fact that Evans was ready to commit to the Dec 10 date, even without testing his hand?
I can certainly understand that the UFC wanted a sure bet and not have to screw up another main event at the last minute. This way, they can have Jones demolish Machida, while Evans heals up, and then make Jones vs Evans for the Superbowl weekend card. Perfect all around.
Jones wanted some time off before he found out Rashad needed more time
Then he jumped right into this.
And you are conveniently missing the possibility that Machida wins, fucking all this shit up.
Read: Toblerone Jones
If Machida wins
It sets up Rashad’s revenge match against Machida. Or another stanky leg.
Not afraid to nitpick
Would he?
Last I saw, he would be ready to start training again in three weeks. After time off for an injury, surgery, and recovery. Then back in shape, and a training camp. I have no idea how much time that involves, but I think three weeks is a bit optimistic considering the training he’d want to fight the best 205-er on the planet right now.
You guys realize that Jones had to have his title defense as soon as possible, right?
Shogun vs. Hendo is for the next title shot after Rashad, and if they wait until Jones vs. Evans well into 2012 then the Shogun/Hendo winner would have a long layoff before his shot at the belt.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
I sincerely doubt Dana will hold to the Shogun vs Hendo winner gets title shot bit.
In other words, if Shogun wins, no shot. If Hendo wins, he gets a shot.
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The only major issue I have with MMA
right now is that there seem to be a lot of good to great fighters who simply aren’t fighting often enough, so I’m ok with this match-up.
by UncleMax on Oct 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hear, hear!!
People complain that the champions don’t fight often enough, then, we’ve got one champion here that likes to fight often, and people are pissed off that he wants to stay busy. MMA fans aren’t the most consistent bunch, are they?
Hendo,Shogun,Davis are all more worthy than Machida.
by adisban1 on Oct 6, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"Logic isn’t welcome here."
So true, so true.
Davis, no way. The other two, sure, I agree with you. But considering your first two names are busy fighting each other in a month, and your 3rd name is injured, how are they relevant in this discussion?
Why not Davis? He is on a substantial winning streak with his last win over Lil Nog. Machida is coming off two losses and a win with a Karate Kid kick over Couture. He definitely is as much if not more deserving. But, he’s hurt too.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Phil Davis is on a less impressive win streak than Jones himself was when he first got his title shot. If Davis is the best option, I’d rather it go to a former champion such as Machida. Davis needs a win against a upper echelon guy… beating Lil’ Nog shouldn’t give you a title shot these days.
Phil Davis is on a less impressive win streak than Jones himself was when he first got his title shot.
I don’t buy that at all. Beating Nog means more than anyone Jones beat, imo.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Destroying Hamill (despite the DQ loss), Janitor and Vera is infinitely more impressive than barely out-pointing Lil’ “Zombie” Nog.
Bader, imo
At the time, much bigger than Nog. Don’t fade Bader just because of Tito!
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by FightingFighting on Oct 7, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What Batman said. Not to mention Phil Davis makes as much if not more sense than Machida given Machida just lost to the guy who Jones just beat. Once again, he is hurt but I see nothing wrong with the #7 guy getting a shot over the #5 guy especially when the #7 guy has been winning a lot more these days.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Davis is injured… stop talking about him. He just wasn’t available, so they went with Machida, who’s available and ready to go.
I acknowledge that he is hurt, several times. I just disagree with your assessment that he is “no way” deserving. That’s all.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Barely edging Lil Nog, a guy who came into that fight on a 2 loss streak (he lost to Brilz, damnit!), is no where near enough to warrant a title shot. Sure, Davis would’ve been a decent last-minute option to fill in for someone and get a title shot that way, but even if Davis was healthy, I would’ve had no problems with the UFC still going with Machida at this point. Machida’s a proven commodity, while Davis needs to continue improving and prove his status by beating a top 5 guy… a Rampage or Shogun, for example.
Um, what?
Shogun is on a one fight win streak. He knocked out Forrest :/ and before that he got uber stomped by Jones. Machida is on a one fight win streak. He knocked out Couture :/ but at least his was a bit more impressive plus he has never fought Jones. Davis is most definitely not ready. Hendo is the only one I see who’s over Machida, but that’s about it. I’m banking on Dana to expect Hendo/Shogun, two Pride legends who both own ko victories in their last bout, to do well, at least promotionally anyways.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 6, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida, you want Anderson Silva money?
Here’s a chance to make some headway on that front.
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Poor Johnny Bones.
Every time he keeps winning the title there goes Rashad to spoil the occasion, and apparently it may happen yet again.
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I really hope so
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I don't even...
wow just wow. I guess Lyoto gets destroy by Bones cause he’s being punished by the UFC? wait whut?
Apparently that mitt of his ain't healing the way it should.
Don’t worry, he may get yet another chance to troll Jones after his likely win and we’ll all sit back and enjoy Jones fume for a while about Evans fucking with his chi.
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This is the fight I’ve wanted for awhile.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
I wonder if Greg Jackson will tell to JJ to counter the counter.
"Honour is like virginity, it can only be used once." - G. Clemenceau
Ye I know, JJ could actually make it work.
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by Firm1 on Oct 6, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow
…. wtf is Dana doing? There is no reason whatsoever for this fight to happen.
Machida getting a title shot after going 1-2 in his last 3 fights? …. with the only win coming over Couture, who’s not even a top 10 lhw.
That is just plain ridiculous. This is a sport, not pro wrasslin, i want to see fights that actually mean something, especially when there’s a title on the line ….
Hmm.
Maybe you didn’t read the part about Evans still being Injured.
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Because hes not going to give
Hendo an immediate shot, Rua just lost to Jones and everyone else is tied up or injured. Makes sense to me.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Oct 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1-2 in last 3 and he is getting a titleshot… guess that LHW isnt really as stacked as people like to think, either way I will watch and im really excited, but fighters getting titleshots with 1-2 in their last 3 fights really shows how little talent there is at 205
How did the most stacked division, aside from LW, suddenly have "little talent"?
Maybe you are missing the part where guys are injured or tied up to other matches..
HOLY SHIT!?!?!
Tim Credeur is out of his 137 bout with Brad Tavares. Dustin Jacoby replaces him!!!!
Saturday 10 Semptember 2011. Carl Noons vs Jack Marshman. That Fght Delivered
by Our Bovine Public on Oct 6, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I said on post about Machida being out till 2012
Was BS because someone would get injured before then and he would step in. I wish I knew how to link it.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Oct 6, 2011 3:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
And I GUARANTEE
Steven Seagal will be in Machida’s corner teaching him the kick that will decimate Jon Jones.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Oct 6, 2011 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Machida by...
"You either stand for something or fall for anything"
by MMA_Revolution on Oct 6, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
This makes sence. Toronto needed a main event. I think they will make the bones shad fight for there first full card on fox. Make a primetime out of it. Big ratings.
by J smooth 420 on Oct 6, 2011 3:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nice guess
I like it, it makes too much sense not to be on Dana’s radar
Downside to UFC having a monopoly on the top of the fight game
Is fighters like Rashad can keep getting fucked out of title shots they earned. This reminds me of a point somebody made about the Lesnar/Couture fight. If it had happened 2 years earlier, Couture would have been easily favored. If it happened 2 years later, Lesnar would have the distinct advantage. Everybody knows that Rashad is aging, and soon enough will be out of his prime. The longer Jones puts off fighting Rashad, the more of a physical advantage he’ll have. Rashad is the only contender who has an idea of Jones’s skills and has spent the most time in the ring with him. That is why he’s the most dangerous opponent out there for Jones. And Jones knows it, and the longer he avoids fighting Rashad, the better his chances are for winning. Or Rashad losing his shot.
In summation, this is bullshit.
by CaliforniaCreamPuff on Oct 6, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
And Bret screwed Bret.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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A 44-year old Couture would not have done any better against Brock than a 46-year old Couture.
Brock was just a bad matchup for the smaller, similarly-skilled Couture. Also, Rashad isn’t that old, not to the point where another six-to-eight months is going to cripple his ability to match up with Jones. He’ll likely fight the winner in March or April, or he’ll take a fight against Phil Davis and then fight for the title in May or June. Its not like he’s going to have to wait four years to fight Jones.
"A guy in Texas came up to me and told me ‘Frye you're not mixed martial arts, you're no holds barred’, and I said you're god damn right partner." ~ Don Frye
So if UFC didn't have a monopoly
Rashad would have a title shot?
Much derp in this comment section, imo
K-1 Level Predictions
by FightingFighting on Oct 7, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else get the feeling that they’re just trolling us with Evans/Jones?
by FlyByKnight on Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I want this fight, but I don't want it right now
I guess there’s really nobody else to book into this fight against JBJ right now…but it does seem a bit forced.
Oh well… Should be a good, compelling fight nonetheless.
I like how Dana contantly complains that team mates won't fight.
Especially Jacksons guys. Now that they will he seems hell bent on never letting it happen.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Maybe he knows Rashad got Bones' number?
and doesn’t want to tarnish his potential breakout star in Jones!
/Removes tin foil hat
Damned if you do...
UFC has too many dates to let their superstars sit on the shelf. If there is a Mir – Cro Cop main event people will bitchabout it so fuck it.
"So he basically called me a Jew. I was confused because I'm black and Methodist."
The thing that's most bullshit about all of this...
Is that, despite Dana having made it clear that Machida is 1-3 since winning the title, he is going to be sold as a deserving contender with a convincing record. It’s fucking absurd.
what a crock of shit. Only an asshole like Dana would try to pawn off a top 5 fighter in the world as a legitimate title contender. Down with Dana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Phildo on Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Just because he's top 5, does not mean he deserves a title shot.
He’s 1-2 over his last 3 fights no matter how you slice it and the second Shogun fight only happened because Dana, the media and the fans all felt Shogun had won the first match. Dana has been pretty clear, until he needed a replacement for a main event, that Machida lost to Shogun twice and that he lost to Rampage.
by IRH on Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like he lost to scrubs..
He lost his belt to Shogun and he lost a decision to Page. Then he fantastically Crane kicked Randy.
very true
the problem is that it really doesn’t seem like he’s deserving due to his recent record. personally, i love the matchup. i still want to see Rashad get his shot, and that can’t happen if he’s injured.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Oct 6, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't SEEM like it..
if you just look at it as numbers without context, a 1-2 W-L record is not impressive. But who else is available? I’m with you in wanting to see Rashad take a crack at Bones before Lyoto, but as you said, he’s injured.
precisely, which is while i’m disappointed Rashad won’t get the shot he deserves, i can’t really be mad at this decision. the potential for this match overshadows that.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Oct 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, you must have been livid when GSP fought Hardy or Anderson Silva fought 75 % of the guys he fought for the title.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
They weren't leaving money fights sitting on the shelf...
In favor of guys with questionable streaks coming into the fights. They were guys on winnings streaks in middle of the road divisions. They earned their shots. Machida is only stepping in because Henderson/Shogun is already booked for 139. The UFC clearly didn’t think Machida was next in line, otherwise he’d be in the official title eliminator bout, and not the guy on standby for any Top 10 LHW fight.
by IRH on Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s Dana’s only other option is Hendo, but if we’re talking money then I think the UFC can make more the way it is now. Hendo vs. Jones could be promoted very easily, but then you’re left with Lyoto/Shogun 3 and I don’t think many people want to see that. In the grand scheme of things I think that these two fights will produce better PPV numbers.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
I guys Jones has Dana in on it to help him duck Rashad, is that the revised ducking theory?
And duck, the UMd one, sorry in advance about abusing your name like this…
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Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
*guess, not guys
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
So my dealer just dropped off some really good shit yesterday
And I read this headline an hour ago and thought I was gonna have to get him to take that shit back.
"Kickboxing is great. It combines the style and grace of boxing with... kicking." -- Norm MacDonald
oh man this is lame
Rashad got dragged into the octagon, promised a title shot, now this happens? what the fuck dana, what the fucking fuck.
wait...
wtf is going on in this division?
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Rashad uote about change
“After my last fight against Tito Ortiz, I dislocated my right thumb, which required it to be set back in place and held with pins. 24 hours ago, my physician removed the pins. At that time, I learned that it would require another three weeks of rehabilitation before engaging in any exercise or training that would require the use of my hand. Dana White and I spoke earlier today, and I fully understand his decision to put Machida against Jones for the title at UFC 140. Given the rehabilitation time I require for my dislocated thumb, I would not be 100 percent ready by December 10. The UFC has to keep making fights that entertain the fans. I would have done the same thing as Dana in his position. I’m asking for the fans to support me as I rehabilitate my hand, and I promise I will be back fighting very quickly.”
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Oct 6, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
hes ducking bones
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Oct 6, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Spoken like the professional he is...
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Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.
by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Machida beat Rashad to the Punch…. muhahaha
by terzergoss on Oct 6, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Hendo just beat one of the best HW’s ever and was the LHW champ in SF…. He deserves a shot a much as Lyoto does IMO.
As suggested in an article about Sonnen underpromotioned for 136, they may set Silva vs Hendo if he gets past Rua. I think that’s more of a reward for Hendo, as Silva is a better style match-up 4 him than Jones, and gets the chance to avenge his loss against the arguably #1 P4P. For his legacy counts much more.
by Carlos Estrada-Ibars Martínez on Oct 6, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I would love to see that...
However I also would like to see Sonnen win Saturday and get a rematch too… I was just speaking on the basis that 3 straight wins against Babalu, Feijao, and Fedor are more impressive IMO than 1 win against Couture.
wow
seems like everything worked out for Machida, after asking for Anderson Silva money
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I hate that you're not "staff", staff, now
but I LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing “Orcus” again.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
ha, thanks brother
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You’re gonna be seeing that for a long time.
by IRodC on Oct 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
damn if jones owns machida and then evans he will become the LH goat.
by sandvilage on Oct 6, 2011 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i never thought i'd say this
but War Machida… unrelated not. just got back from boxing training, and I’m sore as fuck
I got 99 bagels cuz a bitch ate one.
I like this fight
For a while, it was said that there was the top 4 fighters in the division and no one else. Machida, Shogun, Rampage, and Evans. Jones has already beat 2 of them and is now set to take on a 3rd. I want to see him single-handedly take out the old guard. Hopefully he fights Evans early next year so he could say he beat them all in under a year.
I don't understand...
how you could not feel sorry for Shad? Can’t say he doesn’t deserve this next shot…
My Mojo So Dope
shit soup
he took out page, now hes taking out my other fav light hw other than hendo.
hope the dragon wins, but this is jon fuckin jones
fucking props to machida for accepting the fight.
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Jones will not be beat by a counter-puncher
I like Machida—definitely more than I like Rashad. But Machida likes to stay on the outside, wait for the other guy to strike and then dart in for straight punches to the face and then hop out.
This style is really bad for facing Jon Jones. People are talking like Machida is that much faster than Jones… He is faster, probably, but he wasn’t that much faster than a plodding Rampage that he could pick dominate Jackson. And he wasn’t that much faster than Shogun Rua.
How much more harder a time will Machida have against someone with a foot of reach more? He has already shown a weakness to leg kicks (vs. Rua). Also, the range when Machida gets past Bones’ fist is the range for Bones’ knees and elbows.
In the Rua fight, Bones could literally stick his arm out straight and put a palm on Shogun’s torso to keep himself out of Rua’s punching range while he could still punch Rua—it looked like a senior in high school bullying a freshman.
If Lyoto fights the same way he usually does, he will stay on the outside and get picked apart by those long-range kicks and punches, and every time he dives in to head-hunt, he’ll either eat an elbow or get clinched. He is not a great dirty-boxer.
The person that takes out Bones will have to take him down with a great shot and beat him up (Rashad has a good chance of this, if he doesn’t eat eat too many leg kicks that will slow down his shoot), or will have to be a really aggressive striker that can get past those long arms and legs and swarm Bones (I do not know who this might be at 205).
Barring a fluke Matt Serra KO punch, the only counter-striker who could probably consistently beat Jones on the feet is Anderson Silva, because of his ridiculous timing and accuracy. Plus, when Anderson feels like it, he can be that aggressive swarming attacker.
Like any fighter, Bones is beatable, and Lyoto has a chance. But Machida does not have any advantages in this fight if he goes with his normal style. His best bet would be to aggressively trade leg-kicks, where his better technique can probably hurt Jones more than the other way around, and then move in once Jones loses a step.
Rashad has a better chance against Jones because he has that fast, powerful takedown, and he can brawl on the inside.
Lyoto isn't a true counter puncher,
he’s actually more of an initiator. Counter strikers generally wait for their opponent to miss, and respond with a counter. Lyoto initiates when his opponent is off balance and unready. 2 different things, IMO
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 7, 2011 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Lyoto didn’t initiate very much against Shogun or Rampage… what makes you think he can initiate anything damaging against Jones and his additional foot of reach?
Because Lyoto isn't coming off a devastating knockout loss
and Jones isn’t a vicious knockout puncher.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 7, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
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