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UFC 136: Spike TV Preliminary Card Dissection

Match up graphic via UFC.com

The Spike TV preliminary card for UFC 136: Edgar vs. Maynard III begins at 8 p.m. ET, sandwiched between the Facebook stream and the main. The two featured match ups pit middleweights Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago and lightweights Anthony Pettis vs. Jeremy Stephens.

Demian Maia (14-3) vs. Jorge Santiago (23-9)

Maia's losses to Nate Marquardt and Anderson Silva were understandable. Marquardt is considerably more experienced and well rounded, plus the knockout fit into the semi-dismissive "he got caught" category. Anderson Silva is ... well, he's Anderson Silva.

The Mark Munoz fight seemed to reveal a very mortal Demian Maia. In addition to his vastly improved striking and deceiving takedown prowess, Maia had accrued a rep for submitting or thoroughly dominating anyone and everyone on the mat. Perhaps we all placed too much stock in his astounding trip and insta-triangle of Chael Sonnen, the Sherman Tank of 185.

I'll admit that I was immediately inclined to pick Maia when Jorge Santiago was announced as his opponent. However, Santiago's well known Achilles Heel (six of his nine losses are by TKO) shouldn't factor in considering Maia's relatively deficient punching power. Additionally, the former Sengoku champion's BJJ black belt and MMA experience should allow him to stay competitive with the submission demon on the ground, as he's never been submitted.

Gifs and analysis in the full entry.

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The metamorphosis of Maia's kickboxing has never ceased and deserves mention.

It started out ugly, showed a semblance of legit technique, advanced to adequacy and looked the best it ever has against Munoz.

I thought UFC 131 was the first time Maia seemed fully comfortable and confident in exchanges, going so far as to stalk Munoz and back him up with a fireball left hand.

In the clip to the right, his technique, power and footwork are clearly the best they've been.

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I got the impression before that Maia was "imitating" a striker, but his overall stand up game at UFC 131 might have shown his steepest progression yet.

Unfortunately, effectively rounding out his weaknesses was overshadowed by the lack of venom in his outright specialty.

My hat's off to Munoz for his grappling awareness and submission defense, but purposely pushing the fight into Maia's guard used to be the proverbial nail in the coffin.

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While almost any other location is more advisable, Munoz demystified the notion that Maia was untouchable on the ground.

He showed that one can not only survive but still vault ahead on the score cards and beat Demian Maia somewhere other than standing.

Jorge Santiago is nowhere near the level of wrestler of Munoz nor can he match his physical strength, but I think there's more light at the end of the tunnel than ever before in tangling with Maia, especially for a skilled grappler like Santiago.

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Most of the talk on Jorge Santiago's record revolves around his 67% TKO defeats and rarely on the bright side of his respectable winning and finishing percentages.

Of his twenty-three career wins, twelve were submissions (52%) and nine were by TKO (40%) with only two victories going the distance.

Sure, you can bag on his overseas competition or lackluster Octagon performances, but you can't ignore his affinity for taking risks and finishing fights in exciting fashion.

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Let's not gloss over the caliber of opponent he drew in his first UFC stint either, which was Chris Leben, Alan Belcher (both knockout losses) and the late Justin Levens (knockout win).

After his UFC release, Santiago went a twelve-fight tear against the best middleweight competition available while becoming the Sengoku middleweight champ and Strikeforce Middleweight Grand Prix champion.

He dusted everyone except Mamed Khalidov (currently ranked #19 in the world) but Santiago would later avenge the loss by decision; the only fight he didn't finish along that stretch. 

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With Stann now ranked sixth and Maia seventh, Santiago isn't getting any easy opportunities this time either.

At UFC 130, Stann never let Santiago find his groove: he beat him to the punch, he sidestepped and counter-punched his incoming flying knees and takedown attempts and shut him down in every sense.

Just like Santiago can't replicate Munoz's strength and wrestling, Maia won't be the imposing and immovable force that Stann was.

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I'm interested to see how Maia's enhanced striking compares to a veteran knockout artist like Santiago, and also whether Santiago will pursue takedowns and how he'll fare against Maia's astronomical sub game.

I was impressed enough with Maia's striking against Munoz to put him near Santiago's level. Though unlikely, I wouldn't put a Maia KO beyond the realm of possibility.

Alternatively, I would probably evaluate Santiago's grappling with that same proximity in reverse, which -- I realize -- is a bold statement.

We are talking about a guy who choked out the legendary Jeremy Horn in the first round and has never been submitted throughout a pretty loaded list of opponents.

I think Santiago is being mildly overlooked here and, on paper, only trails Maia by a little. I considered calling for the upset but Maia's slick clinch throws and trips inspire me otherwise, as this will likely put him on top and in control of any grappling encounters, and Maia's top game might be more fearsome than his guard.

My Prediction: Demian Maia by decision

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I have to start with a little rant on behalf of Jeremy Stephens, who I feel deserves to make the top twenty-five cut in the consensus lightweight rankings. From a pure performance standpoint, I understand his absence, especially based on his less than flattering inauguration into the UFC.

Stephens began his career losing only one of thirteen fights to Chris Mickle; a defeat he twice avenged by vicious knockout. In fact, Stephens crushed his opponents in all twelve victories leading up to his tenure in the Octagon, nine by TKO and three by submission, closing all but two of those in the first frame.

His entrance to the big leagues was an armbar at the hands of savvy veteran Din Thomas before, after notching another first round smashing elsewhere, Stephens reappeared with a decision over Diego Saraiva and a strike stoppage of Cole Miller.

Here's where things went downhill: Stephens would drop three of his next four to Spencer Fisher (decision), Joe Lauzon (submission) and Gleison Tibau (decision). His win in that sequence was a knockout of sixteenth-ranked lightweight Rafael Dos Anjos. Stephens boomeranged back by winning four of his next five, including twenty-one ranked Sam Stout, and the sole loss was a controversial decision to ninth-ranked Melvin Guillard.

The scoring wasn't accompanied by the typical bickering about MMA judging yet, from cage-side I had the fight a draw, Brent Brookhouse had it for Stephens as did all three Sherdoggers on their play by play. Hey, I warned you it was a rant, but the point is that Stephens has comparable or better records than the four lightweights ranked from fourteen through eighteen but doesn't even appear in the top twenty-five.

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Don't get me wrong ... there's not much to dislike about Anthony Pettis. The Showtime kick will always be one of the most innovative jaw-droppers in MMA history.

His creativity is off the charts and he's a dual pronged threat with a stockpiled kickboxing arsenal and a fluid guard.

Entering the WEC undefeated after eight fights -- all first round stoppages (4 by TKO, 3 subs) save one decision -- the Roufusport fighter won five of six, consummated by snatching Ben Henderson's title.

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It is of particular interest that his sole WEC defeat -- a split decision to Bart Palaszewski -- was delivered by a fighter who bears the most similarities to Stephens.

Pettis has smooth boxing and high kicks, enjoying the most success striking when he's getting off first, though he is a skilled counter puncher.

The animation to the left shows nothing but nice, clean technique with straight punches. Defensively, his lack of head movement in this exchange could be a concern against a slugger like Stephens.

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His hand speed and accuracy are top notch, his footwork has been sound and his ability to react quickly with punches ties everything together in his formidable stand up arsenal.

The seamless addition of the left high kick to close out his combination (right) depicts his unnerving comfort in stringing strikes together, though again his static head position is a bit of a concern.

While there's nothing tremendously flawed in his defense, Stephens is easily the biggest power puncher he's encountered, leaving a tiny margin of error for even the slightest mistakes.

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His wrestling is rarely mentioned, but taking down a juggernaut like Bendo (left) attests that Pettis is dangerous there as well, endowing him with the oft-absent aspect to transition to the floor to maximize his multifarious offense.

His clinch is ruthless in that he alternates from technical striking to latching onto the back or chomping for submission attempts.

Clay Guida unwound him with a strategy that Stephens can't replicate, so Pettis is faced with trading with Stephens or exploiting his grappling wit.

While jousting strikes would be the fan's choice, Pettis would be foolish not to implement his avid submission artillery.

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Still a technical striker, Stephens is much more primal and raw.

He substitutes an extra heaping of vicious punching power and unbridled forward aggression for not being the most fundamentally textbook kickboxer.

The problems with that style are the defensive holes that are left exposed, but the best band-aid is having the brick-laden chin that Stephens has demonstrated thus far (no TKO losses).

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In his last outing, a commanding decision win over Pettis training partner Daniel Downes, Stephens rolled out some strong wrestling and surprising submission attempts of his own.

Typically, his clinch game was restricted more to the stiff knee he clips Downes with to the left, but Stephens, perhaps in an attempt to break his one-dimensional mold, secured a shocking six takedowns throughout the fight.

These weren't of the mild variety either.

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Stephens went all Matt Hughes by lifting Downes off the canvas and taking a short job before burying him against the cage.

The fun didn't end there, as another statistical category was uncharacteristically checked: Stephens attempted three submissions as well (below).

I don't think this means he can compete with Pettis on the mat; just that he's making subtle strides to round out his game with each showing.

I do think he can give Pettis hell standing though.

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The prediction should surely favor Pettis just for being so thoroughly dynamic. The balance is pretty even standing and everywhere else except technical BJJ.

While I might give Stephens a slight nod in the striking, mostly for his cleaving power advantage, Pettis also has a sturdy chin to even things out.

I'd guess Stephens' stand up will influence Pettis more and more that the ground is his friend as the fight goes on.

Hopefully I've put some on notice that Stephens is the last lightweight you want to overlook and has all the potential to score an upset, especially if Pettis plays his game or doesn't respect his power. From a judging standpoint, his aggression and power tend to stand out if it goes the distance, so he might be worth taking a chance on at +250.

With their knack to take a punch being about even, Pettis' clean punches and devious ground-work make him the clear (but slight) favorite.

My Prediction: Anthony Pettis by decision

 


Jorge Santiago vs. Kazuo Misaki gif via MMA-Core.com

All others via Zombie Prophet of IronForgesIron.com

 

 

 

 


Poll
Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago and Anthony Pettis vs. Jeremy Stephens
Maia and Pettis
1374 votes
Maia and Stephens
338 votes
Santiago and Pettis
279 votes
Santiago and Stephens
66 votes

2057 votes | Poll has closed

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I know a lot of blackbelts. I don’t know any Damien Maia’s. maia via sub Round 1.

"Okay, Lindsay, are you forgetting that I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world's first analrapist."

by BJJDenver on Oct 5, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know any Damien Maia's either.

All I know is Demian Maia and he is pretty badass.

Jon Fitch via Decision

by Dustin Luff on Oct 5, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Hunt has K1 Level BJJ

"Well i got ups and downs but days are all the same. I've been low but it never gets me down."
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by We All Hate Caleb on Oct 5, 2011 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damien has ADCC level kickboxing

"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye

by mburtoni on Oct 5, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

vitor belfort has adcc level boxing.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Oct 5, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Michael Jordanesque is Vitor’s Bellator-level psyche, Joe.

Wait… what the fuck did I just say?

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It must be a delightful city and possess all the attractions of the next world" - Oscar Wylde

by SanFranpsycho on Oct 5, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny you should mention that.

Seagal taught Belfort and Jordan everything they know.

"The Glen Rice scandal is way out of line w/ the GOP's values. They're interested in fucking black people by the millions, not one at a time"

by Victor Rodriguez on Oct 5, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are just trying to get me to start a Steven Seagal poster war aren't you?

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott

by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 6, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't think of it as a war, grasshopper.

think of it as a collaborative effort of demonstrating the bullshit that MMA has undone in the martial arts community and the illustration of one man’s egomania and mediocrity.

besides, if we did those all the time they wouldn’t be funny!

"The Glen Rice scandal is way out of line w/ the GOP's values. They're interested in fucking black people by the millions, not one at a time"

by Victor Rodriguez on Oct 6, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

JIU JITSU!!!!!!

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh so witty....

sung like, “Oh so Pretty…”

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by BJJDenver on Oct 5, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect something more along the lines of the Mario Miranda fight – a dominant positional performance. He coud certainly finish from the mount, but Jorge is resilient and slippery enough.

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by POW on Oct 5, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jorge is resilient?

Didn’t he get knocked out in his opponent’s guard?

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

submission-wise

"Hi. I don't know you." - me

"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva

by POW on Oct 5, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If someone who I don't even remember the name of can KO Jorge from his guard

I wouldn’t doubt even the physically weakest fighter in LW and up damaging his chin.

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mamed Khalidov, who to be fair has crazy KO power. But yeah, Manny Gamburyan knocked him out.

by crazybones on Oct 5, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that would be an entirely false assumption

Khalidov is a bruiser.

Let’s not forget there are guys like John Cholish, Mitch Clarke, Shamar Bailey, Edward Faaloloto, Cody McKenzie, etc. on the roster.

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right behind his English

by Afrotikiman on Oct 6, 2011 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was thinking the same

Thus my allusion to his TDs and top control to close.

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will go out on a limb and predict a Maia TKO win

"Its not about the size of the dog in the fight...its about the size of the fight in the dog"

by SoulBrotherNo1 on Oct 5, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That limb's about to snap

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

After what we have seen in the Munoz fight I think it could actually happen.

Depends if Maia will try submission after rocking him or not.

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by killphil on Oct 5, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose it could happen, but Jorge is a lot more technical and dangerous than Munoz on the feet

by lolumad on Oct 5, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about that too

I came into writing this thinking Maia all day but kinda talked myself into giving Santiago a much better chance by the time I was through.

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

great previews

this is a really stacked spike TV card.

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by Nate Wilcox on Oct 5, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Was I the only one who thought that Maia beat Muñoz?

I had him taking round 1 for the striking and round 3 for the back control/grappling control. Oh well….

by mthom on Oct 5, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

I thought that as well

Wasnt there a ridiculous 30-27 score from one of the judges?

"Its not about the size of the dog in the fight...its about the size of the fight in the dog"

by SoulBrotherNo1 on Oct 5, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes there was

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was Doc Hamilton

Just sayin.

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Doc also scored

Jung vs. Garcia 1 for Garcia.

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He scored the rematch for Garcia too.

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by KingBrody on Oct 5, 2011 8:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maia 29-28

Really close fight though. Not a robbery but a questionable decision.

by Pat Tzu on Oct 5, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats how i feel.

I gave Maia rounds 1&3. Solid fight though. That fight turned me into a munoz fan. I loved how he fought and how gracious he was in Victory. It needs to be a 5 round rematch someday .

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by the-gentle-way on Oct 5, 2011 7:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, i would’ve loved to see 2 extra rounds

by Pat Tzu on Oct 5, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

My card also said Maia

but I had money on him, so I can’t be trusted

Head conductor of the Charles Oliveira hype train.

by Stiff Jab on Oct 5, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had Maia, and double checking most of what I can find scoring it live had him too, but it was definitely close.

by Hummus5989 on Oct 6, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG I was using the wrong phone book

Probably should correct that. :)

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Fart Knuckles!

Pettis is fighting this weeknd for the free!?

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Oct 5, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn this is a good card!

Edgar/Maynard *eh, could be good if it’s anything like their last encounter
Aldo!
Chael/Stann *eh, but it has divisional relevance
Lauzon/Melvin!
Pettis/Stephens!
Maia/Santiago!

p.s. fucking Garcia and Nam-fucking-Phan got Main card status over both Maia and Pettis!? I know that fight got promoted due to Grispi being removed, but still, they couldn’t bump Pettis or Maia up instead?

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Oct 5, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grispi being removed?

It was moved because Russow/Herman got canceled and the Spike card was already being advertised.

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh ok

I just got this from wiki.

“Josh Grispi was expected to face Matt Grice at the event6, but Grispi was forced from the bout and replaced by Nam Phan.7 Grice himself was also forced from the card with an injury and replaced by Leonard Garcia.”

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Oct 5, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

You are right in that that is why the fight was scheduled, but not its main card status.

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

People on Spike TV cards are those that the UFC is trying to push

Being put there isn’t an insult. It means that you’re an exciting fighter and they want to get you in front of ~2 million people.

by HaterSlayer on Oct 5, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry everyone: POLL EDITED

to include the second fight.

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It doesn't need to be said anymore, but awesome piece Dallas. Best breakdowns in the business.

That being said, Maia UD, and Pettis via triangle choke, 2.

KEMvP

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by T.C. Engel on Oct 5, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Please, keep saying it

I’ve been on the verge of typing myself into the asylum for the last month. Compliments — and watching Spartacus Blood and Sand for the 5th time — are all I have to look forward to.

:)

"How can I seize the day when it is dusk?"

by Dallas Winston on Oct 5, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

For my fake Internet money...

your pieces are the best writing on BE.

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by duck on Oct 5, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’d be surprised how far that fake internet money goes, homie.

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by Victor Rodriguez on Oct 5, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap!

I am the lonely vote on Santiago and Pettis.

I’ll serve you all a nice Chianti with that crow you will be eating!

by Bilderman on Oct 5, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Santiago won, but the smart bet is on Maia to take him down and outgrapple him for 15 minutes.

by crazybones on Oct 5, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really, right now you are 65 to pick the wrong MW.

by spectaa on Oct 5, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just dont see how santiago wins

his striking isnt as good as maia’s right now, and his jiu jitsu is very good but simply not elite the way maia’s is

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

God

I really hate that last punch on Marcus Davis

by Holls Hoyce on Oct 5, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

people forget that stephans was losing that fight pretty badly until that

which makes me not mind it as much, the man was desperate in that last round if it went to the cards he woulda lost

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes me mad that they cut Marcus for it

Dominating a fight as his first at lightweight, and getting hit with the hail mary by a power puncher is a performance I think deserves another shot.

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i understand that

but marcus was on his last legs in the UFC. i love to see older fighters get a few more fights in the top leagues to get a few more paychecks and help their familes and lives out but davis simply isnt a top fighter at either 170 or 155, his demotion down to the B leagues was a long time coming

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a bit biased

As a HUGE Irish Hand Grenade fan, but it was a pretty bitter way to send him off, after nearly beating a pretty good fighter at a new weight

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the end though,

a soft breeze would stop Marcus Davis in a fight due to cuts,

the guy had been through hell.

I try to untangle the intangible but always end up eating tangerines..

by tomvale13 on Oct 5, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

it really was tough

but 4 outta 5 is hard to defend, even though the stephens and hardy fights were close, nobody survives 4 outta 5 unless you recently fought for a title

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like we might see him back

What is he, 2-0 since leaving the UFC?

Head conductor of the Charles Oliveira hype train.

by Stiff Jab on Oct 5, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

with a 3rd fight coming soon

i think if he wins it hes back. a fight with him and a michael johnson or cody mckenzie type fight at 155 is a perfect spike tv matchup

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummm

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but BJJ is grappling, and his positional dominations of Kendall and Miranda were possible due to his BJJ expertise

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by sitnam90 on Oct 5, 2011 6:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, some fans still think BJJ is only about the submissions.

by spectaa on Oct 5, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're talking about a guy with the username 'Tairy Hesticles'

I would guess his knowledge doesn’t go so deep.

No offense, Tairy

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No you didn't

You said using his BJJ offensively, and then stated he has just been striking and grappling lately. And I’m not sure what fights your watching, but he took Miranda and Kendall down and sub hunted from there

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by sitnam90 on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great stuff Dallas!

Awesome fights here, very evenly matched, but I’m leaning towards Maia and Pettis.

by Horselover Fat on Oct 5, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

maia and pettis are the smart bets here

i see very few paths to victory for either stephens or santiago. their skill sets are both just inferior to their opponents’ in just about every way. stephens is a tough son of a bitch, so i’d give him a better chance of victory then santiago, but in my mind neither has much of a shot

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I see Stephens getting outclassed in the first

Knowing he won’t win the striking game, he gets a takedown and is promptly triangle’d

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont think his wrestling is good enough

you can bet your ass that pettis is training the shit outta his wrestling, with melendez, guida, guillard, bendo, edgar, and maynard all on the top of the 155 weight class, you better be a good enough wrestler to stay on your feet

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's still a variable

I’m not saying it can’t be much improved by now, but I don’t think he’ll be unstoppable one fight after enduring a takedown clinic.

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by halitosis on Oct 5, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea thats definately true

but i just like pettis’ potential to improve more than stephens’ craftiness. i think pettis is still the best young fighter in the division and potentially could be the champ one day. i also think he certainly has the talent to keep exponentially increasing in skill from fight to fight in the UFC the same way we’ve seen Jon Jones and Rory Mac get better and better.

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by milk72 on Oct 5, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m really pumped for these fights.

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by SanFranpsycho on Oct 5, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

these previews are fucking phenomenal Dallas

keep up the good work and thank you good sir.

I’ll take the poll when I decide on Pettis/Stephens.. I feel like Stephens is gonna mollywop Pettis and jaws are gonna drop. But I’m not certain that Pettis won’t style on Stephens either.

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by cmons on Oct 5, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I have Pettis by submission and Maia by TKO. No, that isn’t reversed.

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by mountaineers101 on Oct 5, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I may change it to decision, but sub seems likely.

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by mountaineers101 on Oct 5, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think maia and pettis going win

pettis is going win by sub because i don’t think jeremy can hang with him on the feet. he will go in for the takedown and get caught in something. santiago is a little to sloppy for me i see maia winning by adding up the damage and taking him out in the 3rd round.

by BIGNAT on Oct 5, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I wanna see pettis get the win, but can anyone else see stephens catching him on the jaw and getting the KO?

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by chavez_26 on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Pettis is going to submit Stephens

Like, really easily.

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by SSreporters on Oct 5, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope so was a shame to see showtime lose in is debut

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by chavez_26 on Oct 5, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless...

Santiago drops to welterweight, he’ll have a very short stint back in the UFC.

by Jorge Rodrigues Dias on Oct 6, 2011 6:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Spike prelims

Are these two fights the best Spike prelims ever? I say yes. In the sea of hate towards the UFC/Dana around here on BE, I’d like to take a minute to thank the UFC for giving us free quality fights every single PPV event they hold.

by Shnak on Oct 6, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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