UFC 137 Results: Nick Diaz Starches BJ Penn To A Decision In A FOTY Candidate
by Matthew Roth on Oct 30, 2011 12:10 AM EDT
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This was the fight that everyone wanted to see. The fight that was hyped as the real main event prior to Georges St. Pierre dropping off the card due to a knee injury. In the lead up both fighters were incredibly respectful of the other's skills and never committed to the usual trash talk. It was only at the weigh ins that they showed even the slightest hint of animosity with Diaz and Penn going nose to nose on stage before Dana White jumped in to split them apart.
The fight was everything the fans hoped it would be, with both fighters coming forward in the first round looking to put the most hurt on the other. The clear aggressor was Penn who found his range early and head hunted Diaz the first five minutes. In the second round Diaz took over, forcing Penn against the cage and just battering him with punches in bunches. Penn's face showed the cumulative damage going into the final round and he was unable to keep up with the pace that Diaz set. There were times when Penn was landing well, he just wasn't able land with the same pop that he had in the first.
The judges scored the fight for Diaz who celebrated by calling out Georges St. Pierre making the claim that the champion wasn't actually hurt and was instead ducking everyone. To his credit St. Pierre didn't let the trash talk get to him.
This was the first time in his career that a fighter made B.J. Penn look old. He retired in the post fight and if this truly was the last time that fans will see the Hawaiian, he went out on his shield. He never backed down and stayed in the fight all the way to the final bell.
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Fuck yourrr motherrrrrr!
Nick Diaz is the real deal.
That is all.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Oct 30, 2011 12:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
WAR NICK!
5-0 on the main card tonight.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 30, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
What are you talking about? What was 5-0? Surely you haven’t come to gloat that you picked 5 winners on the card? Nobody gives a fuck!
by sheikybaby on Oct 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also picked Bartimus
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by SSreporters on Oct 30, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
*High five*
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nick is a Beast
ill fight them all men,women,children ,retarded people it doesn't matter if you hit me were gonna fight -Charles "Krazyhorse" Bennett
by TigerTD on Oct 30, 2011 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
How about Penn?
Him coming back and engaging Diaz was beautiful and gritty.
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
Penn was both great and disappointing
It’s definitely time for him to retire. Fighting is (mostly) a young man’s game. BJ’s heart doesn’t seem in it anymore. Not so much a “he’s not training hard,” but more of a “he doesn’t seem to believe he’s the best anymore.” Once that’s gone…
That said, it was great to see him go out swinging. It was tough watching him fight Fitch, then basically lay on his back the 3rd round and refuse to get up (which is all he had to do to win that fight). This fight, he went out swinging, something that—for BJ—was an important step to take—even if it’s a step towards retirement.
by Terry Heick on Oct 30, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hope we get to see GSP/Diaz, cause that will be the first GSP fight in a while that I will be 100% invested in.
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That said, I didn't see anything tonight that would lend me to believe GSP would be in any danger if they fought.
Remember the part in round 1 where BJ took Diaz down and held him down despite the reversal by Diaz? Yeah. Imagine that but x5. GSP by UD.
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Even the boxing in round 1 doesn't bode well for Diaz
GSP’s jab is now just as fast as BJ’s, except with 6" more reach, GSP’s athleticism to give it even more range, and bone-crushing power behind it.
GSP won’t fade or use poor ring control after the first.
I thought Diaz had a puncher’s chance before this fight, and maybe I was underestimating DIaz’s defense, but if anything, my opinion of Diaz’s chances has gone down. Diaz just doesn’t have the quick movement of Koscheck or defense of Alves. I’d even go so far as to say GSP will finish by cuts.
by paythefighters on Oct 30, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol!
@ gsp finishing a fight. I say Diaz takes that one and steal his soul as well. Just like he did to Penn.
by Mongolizador on Oct 30, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, fanboys
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GSP hits harder than BJ Penn now?
Where is that supported in any of the history of either of those two guys? Punching power doesn’t come from ripped abs. Ask Paul Buentello.
GSP will beat Diaz by repeatedly planting him on his ass for 25 minutes. That was always what was going to happen. Bet your house on it, but don’t tell me about GSP’s crushing power. Even when he was finishing guys he didn’t have particularly devastating punches.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Oct 30, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude GSP has the highest punching power of any fighter ever recorded on Sports Science.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/322396/Sport-Science-GSP-punches-harder-than-Shogun-kicks/
Cain Velasquez’s punch is 2230 lbs of force.
Rampage Jackson’s punch is 1800 lbs of force.
Shogun Rua’s kick is 2749 lbs of force.
GSP’s punch registers at 2859 lbs of force
GSP’s kick registers at 3477 lbs of force
GSP’s Right-Left-Left Low kick combo registers at 6000+ lbs of force in .98 of a second.
Either their system is flawed (which it very well could be) or GSP has sick power, we just haven’t always seen it.
I don't buy their system at all
standing in a lab and hitting a still target doesn’t tell you anything. I don’t think Cain is the hardest hitting guy on earth, but I know he hits harder than GSP every day of the week and twice on Sundays, if only because he outweighs him by 50 pounds.
Guys with punching power who fight in a sport that uses 4 oz gloves occasionally knock opponents out with a punch.
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by Dave Strummer on Oct 30, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone who goes on that show has the highest something ever recorded
I find it questionable
by Cunny on Oct 30, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
so you had the time to trawl the sports science archives..
but not to make picks tonight? I am disappoint.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Oct 30, 2011 1:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Doh!
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
Shit just got serious!
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by Unabomberman on Oct 30, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't tell me you missed too
:p - orcus
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Oh, hell no. I scored my usual middle of the road 64. Robbed by the Roop and Marshall fights.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
I did very poorly, but many others did worse
Good job bro
:p - orcus
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Started out the first 3 fights at 33
and picked just 2 more winners the rest of the night. Ended with a 50. I suck.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I remember this exact debate, and you're wrong.
Cain, Rampage, and Rua, were all measure in PSI, which is distinctly different from lbs of force. If you trasnfer from PSI to lbs of force, all are significantly higher than any of GSPs strikes.
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"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
Thats a pathetic headline. BJ was still standing strong at the end, a bit more respect for an MMA icon is in order. Starched? Get the fuck out! He lost 2-1, and ent out like a true warrior.
by sheikybaby on Oct 30, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The BE Radio show was similarly ungracious.
The level that this site has dropped since the exodus of Luke, Nick, Nate, and Snowden is so telling lately
by KidCanada on Oct 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
how about “BJ Gets His Ass Handed to Him”? would that be a better headline?
And i wanted BJ to win, but come on…once Nick got into his groove, BJ was dead
Nick made BJ age 10 years by the end of Round 1.
The fighter who came out to start Round 2 was a shell of the BJ Penn that came out to start Round 1. I can’t stand Nick Diaz, and I hope GSP puts the wood to him, but Diaz straight up AGED BJ Penn last night.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
GSP is in his athletic prime
He’d get pushed, but St. Pierre would double-leg him out of the Octagon and repeat ad nauseum.
He’d also jab his eyes out but that ain’t stopping Nick.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Oct 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP may not stop Nick, but the doctor may
I can’t get over how porous Diaz’s striking defense is and how slow he moves.
by paythefighters on Oct 30, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I have GSP via absolute destruction
I see it as another GSP/Fitch.Diaz constantly coming forward and attacking even though he won’t mount any serious offense is gonna make GSP look better than he has in years.
That’s true about his defense, but it really hasn’t stopped Diaz from implementing his relentless pressure and constant punching volume. He’s fought some of the hardest hitters in the division with standup and beat them even with his porous striking defense and slow movement. However, GSP will probably just take Diaz down constantly anyways, and I don’t think that he’ll stand with him. Diaz will take whatever GSP dishes out and returns a high volume of strikes. GSP has been playing it safe, and taking down Diaz seems to be the much safer bet at this point.
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For real, man
BJ beat Nick to the punch throughout the first round. Diaz may have the reach, but he unloads SO slowly. BJ obviously wasn’t in great shape for the fight and Diaz’s cardio proved to be the key like so many people thought it would be. GSP isn’t going to have a problem keeping up and his jab is so fast and straight… Diaz’s face is going to be such a mess – I don’t see how it’s not going to be a doctor stoppage. His defense just isn’t there to keep from getting blasted and the ground won’t be no picnic either, if he wants to try and take it there.
by Buddy Revell on Oct 30, 2011 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup. It won't. GSP wil take Diaz down at will.
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this
this fight being FOTY is along the lines of the claim that King Mo is a K-1 level striker because he trained with Tyrone Spong. I would’ve liked to see how this fight woulda gone down with Marinovich BJ, but alas, that is the paradoz of the Penn.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Oct 30, 2011 12:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I though maybe Curran/Jorgensen would get it.
I don’t think Marv would’ve changed that outcome. BJ looked as good as usual, just couldn’t hurt Nick enough to slow him down, and Nick wore him out like he’s done to a bunch of guys the last few years.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 30, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
JDH
When should were expect the fanpost?
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
should be up tomorrow
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Oct 30, 2011 1:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought your computer was up and running
That via mobile is scaring me
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 1:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it crashed and burned again soon after- the majority of my absence is being appointed to be the point person for appropriate service provision for Occupy Wall St, so Ilve been ridiculously busy. BUT. it wouldn’t have been a biggie if my cpu were up-replaceing my 3rd internal hard drive in in 8 weeks. fuck my life.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Oct 30, 2011 1:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You're in that crap?
Come on, what the hell is your guys’ goal?
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 1:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not a member of OWS, my name got passed to the city, so they want people who can work within the situation that aren’t cops or politicians, in order to make sure that it stays peaceful and that the protesters get what they need without having to dip into taxpayer money. I’ll be the head of an initiative to reduce the protests effects on the city I’m usually very cynical about protests aiming to take on monolithic bureaucracies, but this one’ss doing well. just can’t have the radicals creating the entire perception of the movement. I’d say the biggest goal is to have big money taxed and treated the same as the rest of us. I doubt that we’ll see any real change, but you need movemments like this to express the discontent of the masses- and everyones pissed off-especially at the media and right’s muckraking and propoganda. if you’re anywhere near by, you should check it out. it’s a nice moment of millieu and quite beautiful at times.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Oct 30, 2011 2:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
How was it one sided?
Penn clearly won the first, and while he clearly lost the third, he still landed his share of punches in the third.
If Penn had a little more gas and a was a little less beaten up in the second, he could have made the third look like the first.
by paythefighters on Oct 30, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
i didnt see the fight so i am incredibly curious
How do you starch someone via decision?
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Oct 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Look up pictures of Penn's face
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by SSreporters on Oct 30, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
i was always under the impression that if you starch someone you have knocked them out cold and stiff
Aka starched
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by Earl Montclair on Oct 30, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
If that is starched, he looked quite well. I’ve seen stiffier starches, but don’t mind me. Starchin ain’t my thang.
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by Unabomberman on Oct 30, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
stockton style starching
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by Earl Montclair on Oct 30, 2011 12:28 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
He beat Penn in a way no one has ever beat him before.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Don't believe the hyperbole, it's like a murder spree, get sniped verbally.
siver got starched tonight. penn got diaz’d.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
by John Danaher's Hair on Oct 30, 2011 1:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You need to see it.
I am disappoint. But it was a great fight
:p - orcus
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What the hell MDH. Why were you not live.
KEMvP
"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
You don't
You starch someone because people misunderstand what "starch"means.
BJ boxed Diaz’ face off the first round. Then Diaz returned the favor for 2. Clear winner, but no “starching”.
BOOSH
BJ Penn gassed. Body punches don't hurt.
Just Bleed.
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I blame the lack of Marinovich. :)
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terrible move to have Troy Madaloniz handle his S&C instead of Marinovich
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Troy wasn't training him for this fight. Your point still stands though.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
oh rly?
didnt see the Countdown so I wasnt aware.
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They did show it on the countdown but I know personally as well.
Troy was complaining about having trouble finding a job just a couple days ago.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a job in general.
I’ve heard he’s actually a pretty good trainer but Penn wanted to “mix it up” and got rid of him.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I've heard from people in Penn's camp that the problem with Marinovich was....
he kept overstepping his bounds. Take that with a grain of salt as far as what that means with Penn who has notoriously bad motivation, but I hear he kept trying to tell him how he should be training MMA instead of focusing on strength and conditioning only.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
That S&C did wonders though. Penn’s problem is cardio/motivation. Mainly cardio, which is as a result of lack of motivation.
Marinovich basically gave him that cardio he needed to be unbeatable
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Oh don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree. I emailed Marinovich asking if they would work together again....
He wrote back that he would love to but “Penn is happy with his camp as it is”. Regardless, Penn is the boss in his camp so if a S&C guy comes in and tells him that he should change his MMA training he doesn’t take it lightly. He wanted Marinovich for S&C exercises only and he supposedly kept trying to help him train MMA and Penn didn’t like it.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt like that either, if I were him. Marinovich is a S&C guy, not MMA.
anyways, you in BJ’s gym, or are like a student of his? You seem awfully familiar with the inside goings in the camp.
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I co-own an MMA gym in Hawaii. We have a lot of guys that have trained over there that come train with us.
My instructors are good friends with Penn and his instructors, etc. Everyone in Hawaii in the MMA scene is pretty knowledgeable about all the “goings on” at the other gyms around Hawaii.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
awesome
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Send me a catalog.
We bought some gi’s recently and we weren’t happy with the quality. All this talk about “no-tear” material only to have the first purchaser have his gi pants rip the first time he rolled with them.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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What?
I don’t approve
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I think it had a lot to do with cage smarts
BJ let himself get cornered and didn’t get out. He then got thoroughly roughed up.
He was smarter in the third, but that was too late.
by paythefighters on Oct 30, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
C'mon man!!
Penn is pummeled in2 bolivian!!! Gsp is NeXtt!!!
by Hankverdee on Oct 30, 2011 12:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
FOTY?
It was an entertaing fight but not even close to fight of the year.
by Quick Ben on Oct 30, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It wasn’t even that entertaining. It was depressing seeing BJ that gassed. And I can’t stand Penn.
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by sitnam90 on Oct 30, 2011 12:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some quick math from Fightmetric results:
Nick Diaz landed 22.5 times as many strikes on BJ Penn as Diego Sanchez did total.
178 (SigStr Diaz landed on Penn) / 8 (SigStr Sanchez landed on Penn) = 22.5
In terms of efficiency, Diaz was 34.88 times as effective per round.
[178 (SigStr Diaz landed) / 3 (rounds fought)] / [8 (SigStr Sanchez landed on Penn) / 4.5 (rounds fought)] = 34.88
And for the second Edgar fight 1.89 times as many significant strikes landed, unweighted.
178 (SigStr Diaz landed on Penn) / 94 (SigStr Sanchez landed on Penn) = 1.89
Adjust for rounds fought? Diaz was 3.15 times as effective as Edgar.
Diaz haters, take note. Turns out he’s really fucking good at this fighting thing.
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by pdl on Oct 30, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Numbers mean shit
Diaz doesn’t suck, but he’s not all that.
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Numbers are more reliable than eyes.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Oct 30, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Learn JiuJitsu.
Don't believe the hyperbole, it's like a murder spree, get sniped verbally.
by RolloTomasi on Oct 30, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
C'mon GsP!!
Diaz won’t gas out after 1st. Will be threatn with subs every 2nd if gsp tries lnp tactics!
by Hankverdee on Oct 30, 2011 12:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Right, because GSP isn’t one of the most active ground fighters in the game and relies on lnp all the time, especially his last two fights.
by paythefighters on Oct 30, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
NO MAN GSP SUCKS
DIAZ IS GONNA TAKE HIS SOUL. GSP SCARED, HE’S GONNA MOVE UP AND FIGHT ANDY TO AVOID MY BOY DIAZ BROOOOOOOO.
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
It's weak to talk about BJ looking bad or old,
he hung in there pretty well and cracked Nick plenty of times, it just didn’t slow the monstrous storm of beating getting laid on him in the last two rounds. Few guys would’ve taken that beating and kept throwing back.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 30, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
Ex-sinner, Grammy award winner
Ballin' repeatedly, highlights on Sportscenter
by underrated ground game on Oct 30, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 14 recs
The fighters are seemingly a lot more gracious than certain bloggers and websites.
by sheikybaby on Oct 30, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wonder if he will help train Nick for GSP, now?
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Diaz' minions are loving this
Can’t wait for GAP to embarrass him.
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
AUTOCORRECT YOU DAMN ME ONCE AGAIN
G.S.P.
GEE ES PEE
GSP
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 12:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Could have sworn you were talking about the GAP gene.
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Just like Penn was supposed to, right? You really are having a hard time with this calling everyone who rooted for Nick a fanboy or minion. I’m sorry this has been a difficult night for you. It will be ok
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Oct 30, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This coming from you...
Need I say more?
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by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 1:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually, tonight you have said enough. Yes, I am a big fan of certain fighters, if you watch this sport that happens. But, for example, on the night Werdum lost I didn’t go from post to post crying about fanboys and minions. I said he looked terrible and went on to write a fanpost about how terrible he looked. I took my lumps as a fan of his. Because even though I am a fan I can still say my guy lost an not try to degrade every other fan of Reem by calling them minions or fanboys, which is about as childish as it gets. Similarly tonight as a huge fan of Diaz all I have said about his performance is he is for real. We will see what happens next, but I am still very happy Diaz won with such ferocity, especially because we all had to listen to folks of your ilk talk for months about he was going to get smashed by Penn and he doesn’t belong in the UFC. It was an emotional night, your guy lost, it happens, take a deep breath, and move on.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Oct 30, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa man
I don’t like Diaz. But what he did to Penn was amazing. I’ve just been making quips about some of his mindless followers making stupid claims. One even said, seriously, mind you, something along the lines of “Diaz is the greatest welterweight of all time”
Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.
by halitosis on Oct 30, 2011 1:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So what? Let them enjoy it. It was a big night for a guy a lot of us have been watching for a long time make his way back to the upper echelon of the WW division. Lord knows if it went the other way the Diaz detractors would have been swimming in much greater pools of hyperbole and snark. And I commend you for acknowledging this:
I don’t like Diaz. But what he did to Penn was amazing.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
People are giving Penn too much credit.
He’s one of my all time favorite fighters. He looked great in the first round. He gassed way too early and looked terrible from the second round on. He was pudgy and in terrible cardio condition. Really upsetting.
EXACTLY!
I don’t understand bj he is so bad ass! Why not be A cardio machine and be one of the greatest of all time! So frustrating and up setting so much god given talent and no cardio!
"Cry in the dojo. Laugh on the battlefield"
by lawdawgfightcrew on Oct 30, 2011 12:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your sig sums it up. He's gotten by for so long on pure talent he has no drive.
He doesn’t train hard. That’s about it. Why? Your guess is as good as mine.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
To say BJ has no drive when he's been a multiple weight champion in the UFC is a bit of a stretch.
…but I know what you mean.
He got to that point with talent. When you age it takes more than that.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I know for a fact he doesn't put in the type of camp that most fighters with lesser natural ability do.
Take that how you want as I don’t intend to call people out.
by Brandon Starr on Oct 30, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s just burned out at this point. He’s been a full-time MMA fighter for over 10 years. Even in the first round when he was tearing up Diaz’s face, he looked pretty sluggish. But all the wars he’s been in will do that to you. It is pretty amazing that his chin has held up the way it has after all these years.
Yes
I was really worried how he’d do later in the fight. And I was very hopeful going into the second considering how well he did in the first. Then things took a turn…..
:p - orcus
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Waiting for Nick Diaz. Wonder what it is? Official announcement of the GSP fight?
by StephenDedalus on Oct 30, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
So long BJ Penn – one of the best ever.
One fight made up for the whole card. Diaz and BJ deliver as usual.
Penn got starched because few humans could withstand the beating Nick layed on him in the second. Let alone come back like he did in the third, even though he was losing exchanges he kept going.
FOTY – I thought Edgar/Maynard 3 was fight of the century, but this was a great, great fight between two of the most exciting fighters in MMA’s history.
N. Diaz = real deal.
This is the first time I've ever been upset at a Diaz win
I’m so confused right now.
by crazybones on Oct 30, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm totally with you.
These 2 guys are at the top of my most hated list in MMA. I had no idea who to pull for, but I knew that whatever the outcome, I would win and lose. Honestly, if I had to pick a winner, I wish Penn would have won. Diaz may be a good fighter, but I can not stand anything about him. I hope GSP destroys him.
The rest... is virtually identical
by randy maverick on Oct 30, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
FUCK!
"Cry in the dojo. Laugh on the battlefield"
by lawdawgfightcrew on Oct 30, 2011 12:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nick DIaz is a fucking Legend
Greatest WW of all time!!!!
by WAR DIAZ on Oct 30, 2011 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
No.
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by Unabomberman on Oct 30, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Oct 30, 2011 1:12 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
How long did it take you to make that account?
by Tairy Hesticles on Oct 30, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude's been around for a while
:p - orcus
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no, really, what?
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"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
Ariel is live-tweeting the presser.
Some decent nuggets.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
Dana says GSP “flipped out” after hearing Nick’s comment. GSP-Diaz is next.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Oct 30, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I've seen GSP do flips before. I believe him.
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by Unabomberman on Oct 30, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GSP said: "he's the most disrespectful human being I've ever met and I'm going to put the worst beating on him."
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Gawd.
The scary thing is that Nick Diaz may end up doing more for MMA by being fucking crazy and putting asses on seats than GSP by winning and being the best welterweight ever and trying to be a good spokesperson for the sport.
The Internets: Where there are no girls and men become children.
by Unabomberman on Oct 30, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Until Diaz fills a stadium with 50k people, no. And tat will never happen barring a GSP/Diaz fight
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by sitnam90 on Oct 30, 2011 1:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
End of the presser? Diaz still can't piss?
The Internets: Where there are no girls and men become children.
No way did Mitrione win that fight.
He got slapped in the second round, and bitch slapped in the third. But yah, it was annoying; like watching an crap Anderson Silva fight minus the air guitar.
The Internets: Where there are no girls and men become children.
Fuck Yeah!
Stockton Honey Badger vs Canadian Koala!
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I’d have to disagree on the FOTY stuff. It was boring watching Diaz pepper a gassed BJ. It was a decent fight, but FOTY is grossly overplaying this fight
Dear audio diary: Today I may have accidentally registered myself as a sex offender! WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY LIFE
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by sitnam90 on Oct 30, 2011 1:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
You were bored?
Maybe you would prefer Bumfights.com?
Learn JiuJitsu.
Don't believe the hyperbole, it's like a murder spree, get sniped verbally.
I’d prefer a competitive bout
Not a gassed Hawaiian who looked like he didn’t wanna be there after handily winning the first round.
Dear audio diary: Today I may have accidentally registered myself as a sex offender! WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY LIFE
- T-Rex
by sitnam90 on Oct 30, 2011 5:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bumfights is awesome
:p - orcus
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It's funny
There is even more Diaz hate after he beats Penn.
ahh Skeletor I shaved my legs for you tonight,
and if you see my cock I hope you go in fright.
ahh Skeletor you made me do some coke,
ahhh I'm up all night and its no joke.
by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Oct 30, 2011 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Well, as it turns out...
Nick Diaz is FOR REAL :D
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by dajulzta on Oct 30, 2011 2:05 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
After Edgar Maynard
There are no fight of the year candidates.
Shouldda been a 5 rounder...
Learn JiuJitsu.
Don't believe the hyperbole, it's like a murder spree, get sniped verbally.
NO WAY that goes 5 rounds
Penn would have needed a walker to get to the middle of the cage to start the 5th.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Diaz first fighter to make Penn look old?
Somebody got a little too excited after watcthing this fight and somehow forgot that GSP made Penn quit on his stool. Quit. As in “I can’t handle this beating any longer, get me out of here,” which wasn’t the case last night.
I don’t know if anybody else mentioned this, but if not, that’s sad.
I don't mean to stretch this out
but the difference between the two fights is that against Diaz, Penn didn’t quit, whereas he did against GSP. The rest is subjective and needs some clarification if you have a different take on it.
by bowling_ball on Oct 30, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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