Brad Tavares Out of UFC 137, Scott Jorgensen vs. Jeff Curran Promoted to Main Card
by Tim Burke on Oct 21, 2011 5:17 PM EDT
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Well, Brad Tavares wasn't on the UFC 137 main card for long. Two days after it was annouced that the TUF 11 veteran's bout with newcomer Dustin Jacoby was going to be on pay-per-view, Tavares got hurt and had to pull out of the fight. He'll be replaced by a newcomer and the fight will be moved back down to the prelims. And a bantamweight fight that arguably should have been put there in the first place will get moved up. UFC.com has it:
With middleweight prospect Brad Tavares forced from his UFC 137 bout against newcomer Dustin Jacoby due to injury, another Octagon debutant will step in, as Clifford Starks will put his 7-0 record on the line against the 6-0 Jacoby.
Moving to the October 29th main card with this change will be the bantamweight showdown between Scott Jorgensen and Jeff Curran.
Starks just competed on October 15th, defeating Artenas Young in the main event of Shark Fights 20. That's quite the turnaround time to make your UFC debut.
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"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."
by killphil on Oct 21, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Brock..?!
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by lanky6 on Oct 21, 2011 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking Tuschererererer myself. Got the hairstyle going on.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 21, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
haha
I never thought about that, but I can clearly see it now. Overweight and bullied in kindergarten, Brock turned to wrestling and bullying Frank Mir to overcome his anxiety.
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Overweight with freakish muscle mass, maybe.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 22, 2011 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions
At least people will stop bitching now.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand
why would anyone be happy that we are getting one less mma fight? Its not like they were going to cancel the Jorgensen bout if Tavares didn’t get injured.
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by Stiff Jab on Oct 21, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
People were bitching up a storm that the Tavares fight was on the main card,
but Jorgensen/ Curran wasn’t. Which I think is stupid for a few reasons-
1) Why the fuck do we care about the order of the fights and what medium it’s on? We’re going to watch all of them anyways.
2) Having Jorgy/ Curran on Spike made sense, they’re exciting fighters and it would be a great lead in to the fights.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, and I have always thought the Spike fights are higher on the totem pole then the first main card fight since they are on free TV.
Exactly.
I think being on the Spike broadcast shows that the company has faith that you will put on an entertaining bout leading into the PPV. And since more people generally watch the prelims than the actual card, a rising contender can get some good exposure from being on cable.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Right,
which explains why the main event is always shown on the Spike broadcast
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by Earl Montclair on Oct 21, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
the Spike fights are higher on the totem pole then the first main card fight
He’s talking about the first fight on the PPV broadcast. I don’t really think there’s any set hierarchy, but I would agree that the fights they put on Spike are generally of the same caliber as the first fight or 2 on a PPV.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You assume that there's a large Facebook audience for these cards.....
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
No I don't,
I’m saying that pretty much everyone on BE would be watching all the fights anyways.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t know why we should care about what order people (we don’t even know, who presumably aren’t very knowledgable fans) are watching the fights in. The UFC has done fine so far, they know what they’re doing, it’s not that big of a deal.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is so true
I can’t understand why people here get so pissed with the order of the card (every card). The argument will be that they don’t promote the small weight classes but that is an absolutely different issue.
People are so happy that now they have to pay to see the Jorgensen/Curran fight instead of getting it for free. I still can’t figure out the rationale. I don’t get it.
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Putting the smaller guys on cable is a good way to intro them to the general public.
They’re exciting and putting them in front of a larger audience can only help them if they perform.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 22, 2011 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Assuming that the UFC knows what their doing is the most common fallacy of MMA fans.
They have no new stars coming up and declining sales and ratings since they failed to adapt their product (until next year).
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by pdl on Oct 21, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How
Does it need to be changed and what do you see that they don’t? I know you think there are a bunch of incompetent idiots running this org but they saw enough to actually take a network deal.
The terms don’t seem bad for the UFC so what else should they be doing besides making the biggest change in the history of the Zuffa owned company?
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Well, at any rate,
the Zuffa marketing team isn’t going to be scouring Bloody Elbow comment sections for business solutions. And their real problem is that PPV blows dick and they need to run away with that network deal they finally worked out.
Even with the declining PPV sales, they are still raking in money hand over fist and I have no delusions that they will ride that train until the last possible moment. Seriously- think about the average payroll of a card like 136 (i’m going to say it’s 2 million, too lazy to look up #‘s right now). That alone is covered by the gate. Then you figure the cost of advertising, and all other costs of production… if the 275k figure is correct, that’s still a shit ton of money (over 15 million dollars).
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 22, 2011 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions
This will be a war. It should have been on the main card before the Tavares fight anyway.
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by Doomrider on Oct 21, 2011 4:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well
The good – We’ve got a great Bantamweight matchup on the main card of a PPV
The not so good – It wasn’t the first choice to fill the empty spot on the PPV.
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why are there so many injuries?
does anyone know?
this doesn’t seem to happen in boxing or wrestling events as often.
My thought is there always was this many injuries but since the insurance policy came out people feel less ‘pushed’ to go through with a fight to remain financially secure.
It's just a world, it's just a life.
I doubt the threat of getting injured training for a boxing fight is anywhere near an MMA one.
So much more in this sport to prepare for, lots of ways for people to get hurt.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 21, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Unexpect the Expected!
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by some schmuck in texas on Oct 21, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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by the guy with the big nose on Oct 21, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
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by some schmuck in texas on Oct 21, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see Brad getting so excited about being moved up to MC
that he pushed too hard at the gym and ending up screwing himself.
Hell yes.
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by T.C. Engel on Oct 21, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You shut your face!
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 21, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!!!
this is the fight that should have been bumped up in the first place.
WAR CALICO KID!!
WAR SPOTTY SCOTTY
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by mountaineers101 on Oct 21, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
artenas last fought in shark fights.
Does anyone know where jacoby last fought?
by XingYi on Oct 21, 2011 6:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm kinda bummed about this
I watch every fight on every UFC so I don’t give a shit what’s on the main and what’s not.
I was really excited to see Tavares as I think he might be a lurking talent. I was pretty floored at how well he did versus Simpson and in retrospect his decision over Baczynski is pretty impressive.
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by Dallas Winston on Oct 21, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree,
he has very crisp striking and is improving fast. I liked him the first time I saw him fight on TUF.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 21, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I was having discussions about Tavares, and he got a lot of flack. I can honestly see him become a top ten UFC Middleweight in the future. While he did lose to Simpson, his takedown defense really impressed me, and he looks to be improving every time he fights.
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by chrisbboy82 on Oct 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Simpson took Munoz down
And they’re both high caliber D1 wrestlers. Simpson was 100% fixated on getting the TD for the entire fight and Tavares pretty much shut him down.
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by Dallas Winston on Oct 22, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like he's good good defensive wrestling, but how's his striking?
I didn’t see his fight against Simpson. All I remember of him is that he came in out of shape against Baroni and TKO’d him
Thank you Tavares
Clearly you want the Spotty Jorgensen to be on the main card, too.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Clifford Starks is the least threatening MMA name ever.
Sounds like he could be an accountant. Or a manager at Staples.
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Benson Henderson has gotta be up there.
by Jeffigatame on Oct 21, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
injuries are rarely good news
But this is great news! Jorgensen v. Curran not on the main card is stupid
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by The Midge on Oct 21, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Great news!
An exciting middleweight prospect with smooth striking has been injured and his career will stagnate for several months!
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 22, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Good.
They deserve the main card spot more than some newby…WTF is wrong with the UFC and their treatment of the lighter weights?! The guys aren’t going to become known fighting on the undercards
by Keyboard_warrior on Oct 22, 2011 12:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
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