Anderson Silva's Camp Still Says Chael Sonnen Shouldn't Get Rematch

He brought up salient points- Chael only has 1 win in the last 20 months. He got finished by an injured Anderson, despite having testosterone levels that were higher than acceptable.

Sonnen looked good against Stann, but he needs to EARN a rematch. Demian Maia just looked good in victory over Santiago, got robbed in the Munoz decision (should’ve been a draw at worst), and is 3-1 since his fight with Anderson, where he didn’t get finished and instead of quitting at the end of the fight- he actually started to take charge. This is also the man who tossed Chael Sonnen, lifetime wrestler, through the air and cinched up a choke so tight that even the incorrigible Chael couldn’t do anything but a fake tap.

Yes he is still on TRT however this time he will need to test within acceptable levels of testerone – last time his levels were way above the limit.

then what?

Or maybe they could get a japanese lightweight to “humiliate” Silva again.

I think Bisping with 5 straight wins would be the logical choice. Maia also have improved greatly and is 3-1 with the one loss to Munoz being total BS. I think Sonnen should beat one more fighter (maybe Okami or Munoz) before getting a title shot.

Shogun landed something like 27 right low kicks on Lyoto. And 21 hard knees in the clinch (mainly to his left thigh IIRC).

doesn’t have anywhere near the power that Aldo at FW has.

Forrest griffin vs. Anderson style.

Tony fryklund vs Anderson style.

Showtime’s had more flash than substance. I will take a front snap kick that levels a former Hw/ lhw champ over and an acrobatic display off the cage that they get up from.

Yes. A real rebel, this one.

ROFL, I have seen that 1000 times… Every motive for every opinion comes down to someone being afraid of someone else. In fact, the two most common attributed motives are in here… being a fanboy and being scared. Then in an even funnier fashion, you respond with the “afraid” meme as well! This deserves another ROFL.

Are you agreeing with me??….
My (poorly made) point is:
There is no other high value opponent for Silva to fight instead of Sonnen. If it was a situation like they have at LHW…Say Jones didn’t want to fight Machida, he could say no let me fight Henderson…that would be a fight that people would ant to see, and would make money. Silva doesn’t have that option at 185 right now.

Not to mention that Soares acknowledge the final decision rest with Dana White.

I personally think Soares may be trying to strike a better deal before Spider signs the contract.

Condit is great, I really like the guy, but he’s a fool to wait for GSP. He should’ve taken the Koscheck matchup.

Chael needs to take care of that Demian Maia loss. As far as i’m concerned, there’s no reason to take him seriously as a threat to anyone so long as he doesn’t show basic guard submission defense. Maia is more deserving of a rematch with Anderson right now, based on his objective accomplishments.

And people hate on Bisping, but the winner of his fight with Mayhem is 1 fight away from a title shot, and I think he deserves it. Aside from the KO loss to Hendo, Mike has done really well at middleweight. I thought Wand edged him out, but he didn’t get blown out by any means.

I actually enjoy watching him fight, but he isn’t nearly as good a fighter as he is a talker. He doesn’t have the accomplishments to merit his standing. All Sonnen fights go the same way- Chael gets the takedown (because he’s a fucking powerhouse wrestler, no dispute there) and puts up a huge volume of punches from guard; his GnP is very good, even if he doesn’t have exceptional knockout power. And then he gets subbed. Chael is a frontrunner. I’ve talked to his training partners, I’ve talked to Chael himself, I’ve seen interviews of him and his trainer- every one agrees that Chael quits.

Chael doesn’t have the mental fortitude of a champion. When he fought Paulo for the WEC title, he repeatedly went for takedowns despite his obvious edge in the striking, and ability to stuff Filho’s takedowns, and despite Paulo coming close to several armbar/ triangles until Filho caught him.

Against Anderson, he gets subbed by the same submission he’s been caught in his whole career, against a guy with fucked up ribs and 22 minutes of getting beat on, and evan all roided up he couldn’t help but fall into a triangle that Anderson was setting up for close to a minute.

I will leave you with these-

* NJCAA Greco-Roman 190 1b – Runner-up out of University of Oregon (2 years in a row)
* World University Championships Greco-Roman Seniors 85 kg – second place (2000)

I know fear when I see it. I saw the video.

and Chael sat there like a little bitch with a nervous smile and said nothing back.

We could give a fuck if Chael could hold Wand down for 3 rounds these days.

Chael had a chance to really back his shit up, for once, and he bitched out HARD.

rcbc, peace

I just wondered if old women are visiting BE. If yes, he would it be?

I’m a 26 yr old so I’m not a grown up I’m a young adult.

2- Yes, it does mean Demian did better. This is fighting. Anderson STRANGLED the shit out of Chael until he had no choice but to surrender, lest he be rendered unconscious, or in a real fight- dead. Think about that. Chael Sonnen would’ve DIED without a referee to stop Anderson. Demian actually won the last round or two, and although Anderson was landing on him at will in the first few rounds, this is a fight and Demian didn’t quit.

3- I agree that Dana & co are only concerned with what will make them money, but that shouldn’t matter to us fans. We shouldn’t have to play by their rules. I call things as I see them, and as I see it, Chael Sonnen is a guy with 1 win in 20 months, a guy who got busted for abusing testosterone, a guy who got strangled by a dude with a legitimately fucked up ribcage. The fact that he talks like a bigoted pro wrestler shouldn’t leapfrog him past fighters who have real win streaks.

Anderson clearly won the first 3 rounds, but the desert heat gassed him out, and all the taunts were just to distract people from his exhaustion. Maia took the last round or 2 and acquitted himself well, showing toughness and resilience. And the better Maia’s striking gets, the more aptly he can set up clinch situations, and the more often he can land takedowns and pull guard as he pleases.

Chael fucking quit. No matter how outclassed Maia was in the first 3 rounds, he didn’t quit. They’re FIGHTING in there. Were there not a ref to stop the fight, Anderson would literally have choked Chael to death. Did Maia almost get choked to death? No. Did he willingly surrender? No. Maia did better than Sonnen.

I just checked some interviews and it looks like he never said he would not accept the fight if offered. He just says he will cross that bridge when he gets there. It seems he is spending a ton of time at his own gym and at KINGS over the past year. He might be slowly distancing himself if he is offered the shot.

Also, Weidman could definitely present a challenge to Silva with some grooming, assuming Anderson is still around once Weidman hits his stride. I doubt Anderson will be around or champ at that time, though.

Munoz got lit up by Damien Maia and Kendall Grove.

but there’s still plenty of time for Sonnen to get another fight. Here’s my thing: Naturally, I want to see the rematch, I just don’t think Sonnen deserves a title shot when he’s only won once since his last title shot. And not only that, until Sonnen proves he can beat an elite BJJ fighter, I can’t see how he can last 5 rounds against Silva.