Report: K-1 Grand Prix 2011 Cancelled
by Fraser Coffeen on Oct 16, 2011 8:49 PM EDT
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It looks like the dreams of a 2011 K-1 World Grand Prix may finally be dead. Reports are beginning to surface that the Final 16 of the Grand Prix, scheduled for October 29 in Nanjing, China, has been cancelled, though there is still no official word from K-1.
The most credible report comes from Anil Dubar, manager to K-1 fighter Daniel Ghita, who announced on a Dutch blog that the Final 16 event was cancelled. This news is not much of a surprise, as it comes at the end of a week full of last minute scrambling on K-1's part.
As we reported last week, Tyrone Spong confirmed that, as of one week ago, he had not been paid for past K-1 fights and was unlikely to participate in this year's tournament. We've known for quite some time that many fighters were still waiting for payments, which could potentially cripple the 2011 tournament. Then, earlier this week, news came out that K-1 was working to take care of this problem, but in a rather odd way.
LiverKick.com reports that K-1 did indeed offer some of this year's Final 16 fighters a contract for the Final 16 event, but that by signing the contract those fighters would have to forfeit their rights to half of the money due to them from previous fights. It's unknown exactly who was offered this deal, or if anyone signed it.
One thing we do know - fighters represented by It's Showtime (the European organization who is helping promote the Grand Prix and manages many of the fighters involved) were not given this offer. It's Showtime President Simon Rutz has been very vocal about his fighters' lack of pay and the fact that if this was not sorted out, his fighters would not take part. He gave K-1 a deadline of this past Friday to receive payment. Again, LiverKick.com reports that as of Sunday, there is no word of that payment.
Finally, there is no mention of the event on the website for the Nanjing Olympic Sports Center Gymnasium (the alleged site of the show) nor any information on how to purchase tickets.
With only two weeks until the show, tickets not on sale, fighters and managers publicly saying that they are off the show, and K-1's biggest partner gearing up to pull their fighters, it certainly seems like this is a done deal. I would expect K-1 will keep trying to pull it together and will resist officially cancelling until the last minute. Given their track record, don't be surprised if they actually cancel the Final 16, but still say a Final 8 will happen in December. But at this point, it's time to accept facts. The best kickboxing tournament in the world is over.
Rest in Peace K-1 Grand Prix.
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Wow
Guess that happens when you don’t pay your fighters
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Guess that happens when you don’t pay your fighters
They agree to fight without pay again & again & again & again…
by higgledy-piggledy on Oct 16, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but maybe, just maybe, the limit have finaly been crossed this time (at least for those who see anny type of option). We´ll se, kickboxers don´t really have that manny other places to make big money, so manny will take the offer from K-1, even if they very well might not get paid. In the past, K-1 made some fighters some pretty big money, and that still lives in the minds of some people..
"I´ve seen the future of the whole fucking thing and it´s Big Man Clarence Clemons!"
- Bruce Springsteen
The world became a less amazing place on June 18 2011, with the death of Clarence Clemons. R.I.P. Big Man, you will be sorely missed.
Some people don´t like the saxophone, but if you can´t rock to the Jungleland solo, you are dead inside!
You realize they're co-promoting with another organization right?
If It’s Showtime pulls their fighters the Final 16 is dead in the water. K-1 made some fighters rich, but those fighters earned that money and it’s stupid for them to put their health on the line for free, and they certainly don’t owe K-1 free fights. As it stands it looks like quite a few fighters are pulling out of this, including Badr Hari and Daniel Ghita. K-1 does have some alternates lined up but I don’t think it’s going to be enough. Believe it or not there are other places these guys can make money.
pandog
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by Earl Montclair on Oct 16, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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by MattParker117 on Oct 17, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 16, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Excellent
"Kickboxing is great. It combines the style and grace of boxing with... kicking." -- Norm MacDonald
by Anthony Pace on Oct 17, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
K-1 is getting what they deserve. If you can’t pay the fighters, you don’t deserve to be in business. I just feel bad for the fighters that sacrificed their time and their bodies for this tournament, paid for their training camps, only to be screwed by K-1. K-1 had to know full well that they could not pay their fighters well before this event even happened. People need to go to jail.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
by crizzy on Oct 16, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Shocker...
Seriously though… why would anyone sign that contract where they forfeight half the money owed to them
You Come At The King, You Best Not Miss
by Our Bovine Public on Oct 16, 2011 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
I think a lot of K-1’s atrocious business decisions would be more acceptable to a Japanese audience. Still, deals like this wouldn’t be unheard of in America. If the people who are owed money are convinced the only chance of ever getting paid is to make K-1 profitable again, it suddenly becomes reasonable to sign the contracts; at face value they are criminal.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Any point in the fighters suing K-1?
You Come At The King, You Best Not Miss
by Our Bovine Public on Oct 16, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know. If they already have a lawyer under contract, it couldn’t hurt not to sue? No idea if legal fees would end up outweighing any potential gains.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Plus,
they’d have to consider the extra complications of K-1 and FEG being Japanese organizations. I have no idea if Japanese law would make it easier or harder for the fighters to recoup anything.
RIP
Really a shame for the fighters. The GP was always an amazing spectacle and in recent years didn’t disappoint. I hope to see high level kickboxing on a big scale with big names again soon. It’s Showtime is showing promise, but needs to continue to grow.
Fuck, didn't want to read that, assumed I would though.
All the memories. It’s really a shame for the kickboxing world mostly, this was the big organization to aspire to. Fucking promoters destroying their own sports these days. RIP K-1.
That sucks
I stayed up all night to watch the Grand Prix last year, and loved seeing Overeem take the tournament. I was eager to watch it this year.
So is this a death knell in particular for this year’s Grand Prix? The Grand Prix as a whole? K-1 as a whole?
Does this potentially make Alistair Overeem the LAST K-1 World Grand Prix champion ever?
PACIFIC RIM
in theaters
July 12th, 2013
Except Alistair had to compete against top 10 fighters to win his title.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
yep
because Bendo apparently isn’t top 10 material…wait, what?
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 16, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Bendo has beasted since coming to the UFC
That doesn’t mean he was top ten last december
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Oct 16, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
exactly
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Oct 16, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it means subo and company that do the rankings didnt think he was.
But he was.
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by the-gentle-way on Oct 16, 2011 11:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Oct 17, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell me about it
I only started watching the GP last year & it was my first live kickboxing event, I thought I’d found a new yearly tradition. Now I don’t know what to believe in..
Be like water..
by theredoctober on Oct 16, 2011 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
same here
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by Chris Groves on Oct 16, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say it’s a death knell for K-1 as a whole sadly. And yep, Alistair Overeem is very likely your last ever K-1 champion.
Those who recently got into it, check out the 1996 GP – good stuff all around.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Oct 16, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad day
What a shame, but I can’t say we didn’t see this coming.
Real BElitists only rec ironically.
I wish a new high level stand up org would appear. Its Showtime does not have a good rule set. If only M Thai was bigger, that is a great rule set to decide the best strikers. K-1 rules set was weak, people brought up competing under that rule set might now even be the best strikers, top mma striker like Anderson Silva would be better.
I am free because I choose to be so-Me
I was going to say, maybe Thailand can grow as Kickboxings biggest homeland.
K-1 rules hurt my boy Buakaw. Thai fights are so damn entertaining.
by theworldismine on Oct 16, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything I have been told about Thai-style scoring enrages me.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Hopefully a kickboxing fan can field this question. I remember hearing that kicks were massively overvalued compared to punches, and some other stuff I can’t quite recall.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Thai scoring gives the most emphasis on elbows, then knees, then kicks, then punches bringing up the rear. So a very skilled boxer who lands a ton of punches but never throws a kick, elbow, or punch, can lose a round if he’s hit by one really sweet elbow.
It’s also super shady and full of corruption and the pacing of the fights is heavily influenced by ringside gambling. It’s still awesome, but these are downsides.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Oct 16, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t it more kicks / knees → elbows → punches?
It also matters where it lands, how cleanly, and how hard. Head and body is preferred, then legs and arms (but they have to be hard there).
by Horselover Fat on Oct 16, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LiverKick.com reports that K-1 did indeed offer some of this year’s Final 16 fighters a contract for the Final 16 event, but that by signing the contract those fighters would have to forfeit their rights to half of the money due to them from previous fights. It’s unknown exactly who was offered this deal, or if anyone signed it.
Were they trying to lose fighters?
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by Earl Montclair on Oct 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
the k1 gp was always one of the best combat sporting events of the year
this is a sad day for kickboxing fans everywhere
is it’s showtime gonna pickup the slack?
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Dear It's Showtime,
Stop being ninnies about your ruleset and allow spinning attacks and clinch fighting. Then I won’t care about losing the K-1 brand since kickboxing will be awesome still.
Signed,
pdl
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by pdl on Oct 16, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
That is badass
:p - orcus
Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher
Spinning attacks aren’t allowed in It’s Showtime?
And rec’ed cause It’s Showtime is putting on good shows.
Spinning backfists are banned, but spinning kicks are OK.
Fun spinning backfist story – our own MMA fighter The Korean Zombie was on an It’s Showtime show last year. Lost via DQ when he KO’d his opponent with a spinning backfist. Fight is here.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Oct 16, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Damn that was sick. Sucks that he got dq’d
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Oct 16, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The commentators thought he won by knockout.
"The guy just got between two of the baddest men at 205, in an attempt to calm them down AND was seen in public with Tito.
GSP doesnt take any chances my ass." TheCode
by DreamingOfFighting on Oct 17, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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KEMvP
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Co-signed
And rec’d for one of my all-time favorite KO’s. He’s a bad boy!
by Horselover Fat on Oct 16, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes please
K-1 banning the two handed clinch was just stupid, if they’re on there way out let’s make sure their mistakes leave with them. And spinning strikes are just awesome and should be allowed for that reason.
I'm pretty sure they did that
to deter Buakaw, Schilt, and Overeem (before he was a fan favorite).
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-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Overeem skirted around it anyway
By doing a two-handed clinch and just letting go with one hand right before he drove his knee into his opponents’ skulls.
Yeah, that was a very fine line
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
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-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 17, 2011 4:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Co- signed
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 16, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
God that KO rules.
And hey, if anyone doesn’t know, that’s the much discussed Badr Hari doing the kicking.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Oct 16, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The only good thing I see that could come out of this is
Maybe mma will get some crossover fans.?
Goodbye to the best night in combat sports.
KEMvP
"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
RIP K1
now hurry up and covert to mma
ill fight them all men,women,children ,retarded people it doesn't matter if you hit me were gonna fight -Charles "Krazyhorse" Bennett
Absolutely perfect for this.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 16, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
On a happier note, Arrested Development is coming back with 10 episodes and a movie! YUS! Production next summer.
by Horselover Fat on Oct 16, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Since this is a sad thread
I’ll refrain from posting ecstatic gifs. This is the best TV-related news in a long, long time, though.
Spinning with the Fishes for the 2011/2012 BE Civil War. IT'S ON!
by wonderfulspam on Oct 16, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You are quite a tasteful man. Yeah, the movie has been talked about for several years, but the new episodes were just announced about a week ago. Indeed great news.
by Horselover Fat on Oct 16, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I watched the entire show in less than a week the first time, then checked wiki once every week or two for about a year hoping to see a line saying “The long-awaited movie is in production”. Got fed up eventually and decided to try to entirely forget about the show as the idea of an upcoming movie was driving me insane.
I won’t get my hopes up* until they officially announce a network deal, though.
(*yeah, right)
Spinning with the Fishes for the 2011/2012 BE Civil War. IT'S ON!
by wonderfulspam on Oct 16, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, right. Well, it’s probably going to take at least a year before we get to see them. Did you ever re-watch the series? If not I’d really recommend it, because you will discover a lot of small things that maybe weren’t apparent the first time. Like referencing future events, and so on.
by Horselover Fat on Oct 17, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I did. It was almost as enjoyable the second time. I watched the episodes with commentary as well, those were hilarious.
I think I’ll watch all of it again sometime soon and look up info on each episode in advance so I can catch all the references.
The Family Ties episode with the Bateman siblings/reference to Justine’s involvement in Family Ties/him thinking she was a prostitute/etc. was the single greatest mindfuck of intertwining references I’ve ever seen on tv. Absolutely superb, and you could tell (like with the rest of the show) they had a ton of fun writing it.
Spinning with the Fishes for the 2011/2012 BE Civil War. IT'S ON!
by wonderfulspam on Oct 17, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Taste the happy, Horselover! Taste the happy!
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 16, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This sucks so bad.
I love(d) staying up late, jacked on coffee and whiskey, watching the grand prix. Definitely my favorite non MMA event of the year. This is a real disappointment.
Hopefully It’s Showtime will be able to recapture the magic of the Grand Prix, it was definitely more exciting than the average kickboxing event. It could be difficult for them though, a lot of kickboxing’s biggest stars are either nearing retirement age or leaving the sport while still in their prime.
Goddamnit
This blows. The K-1 Grand Prix might be the single best event in combat sports in terms of the level of talent fighting in a single night, and now it’s gone.
Not like anyone here would of been watching this year
It was scheduled for the same night as UFC 137 when a lot of people here would of been to drunk to stay up.
http://unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com
Wonder what this means for what little future DREAM had? In which case I’m curious so see Shinya Aoki/Bendo.
http://unintelligentdefense.blogspot.com
It looks a lot like Aoki v. Melendez except Bendo probably rages at some point and murders him CAN I GET AN AMEN?!?!?!?!
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by Earl Montclair on Oct 16, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I’m just kind of curious to see what would happen if it got to the ground
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by MattParker117 on Oct 16, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
this!
I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Oct 16, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Dude, Jesus totally wrecked the entire Greek pantheon.
That’s what they get for making fun of him on the cross.
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/04/09/my-favorite-mid-90s-bad-ass-jesus-comic/
Nineties comic book art still makes me cringe.
by discoandherpes on Oct 17, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
AMEN!
PACIFIC RIM
in theaters
July 12th, 2013
by Chris Groves on Oct 16, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And just when Americans were starting to get on board with kickboxing...
Some idiot will think I’m being serious; so no, this is seriously not serious.
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Conductor and sole passenger on the Fitch bandwagon.
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I purchased a crowbar and 3 gallons of Goof Off, worked for three arduous hours and was still unable to pry IKilled007 off Jon Jones' nuts.
by Earl Montclair on Oct 16, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
This is actually the most appropriate usage of that picture that I've ever seen.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 16, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
For those that say boxing is dying
take note, this is what a dying sport looks like.
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 16, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
It’s dying from management not from shitty fighters that nobody cares about.
It's just a world, it's just a life.
does it matter if it's a knife or a gunshot?
both will end it
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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 16, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a dying PROMOTION
Not dying sport.
by Horselover Fat on Oct 16, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ
If you don’t know what you are talking about don’t talk.
K-1 the promotion is having problems, K-1 is a Japanese company and Kickboxing is primarily a European sport. Just because the one promotion Americans know about is doing poorly does not mean that an entire sport is dying.
K-1 doesn’t have a UFC-level stranglehold on the sport, they are just the guys who helped spread a unified ruleset. The sport has fans, that hasn’t changed, as long as there are fans one promotion serving as a money-laundering scam for the mafia does not mean the sport as a whole is dying.
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by Dave Walsh on Oct 16, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
On a somewhat unrelated side note,
do you ever think there will be a kickboxing promotion with a Muay Thai ruleset (unrestricted clinch, allows elbows/ knees/ spinning strikes), more western scoring principles (objectively weighing strikes, as opposed to disproportionately favoring kicks over punches, and forward movement)? And do you think that such a promotion would ever be able to garner a quality roster of fighters and TV deals in a market like America?
Because that’s my dream right there. I think that kind of product would do incredibly well in America.
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-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 16, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah no kidding
I remember Rogan talking once about how he felt a little surprised that kickboxing and muay thai weren’t more popular in North America…because so many of the casual MMA fans just seem to prefer the striking aspect….but boxing is too limited, so something that is sort of ‘full striking’ or at least a lot more complete striking game like kickboxing or MT, one would imagine, would be something those casual fans really get into.
I personally have fallen in love with watching kickboxing, I’ll always prefer the more complete sport of MMA, but kickboxing is fun as hell to watch.
PACIFIC RIM
in theaters
July 12th, 2013
by Chris Groves on Oct 16, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here.
I really enjoy grappling, and MMA is definitely my favorite, but kickboxing/ MT is just so entertaining. I can enjoy higher level boxing, but it just doesn’t feel right for two guys to be standing and striking without kicks, knees, or elbows being allowed.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 17, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Outside of fights that I knew ended in the first via awesome KO
I’ve never watched a whole boxing match. It’s just not interesting to me.
PACIFIC RIM
in theaters
July 12th, 2013
by Chris Groves on Oct 17, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd recommend the classics-
check out Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson’s HL reels; watch Ali/ Foreman, Hagler/ Hearns, Gatti/ Ward, etc. There are some good boxing matches out there. But it’s just such a narrow focus that when i’m in the mood for some brutal, beautiful striking I’ll watch Petrosyan, Buakaw, Hoost, Ramon Dekkers, Saenchai, etc.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 17, 2011 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions
check out Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson’s HL reels; watch Ali/ Foreman, Hagler/ Hearns, Gatti/ Ward, etc.
Arturo Gatti? No thanks.
The UFC has about 15 Arturo Gatti’s according to Dana White, and he speaks only the truth.
Haha
Especially Dan Hardy and Pat Barry, though (even if they never win any titles)
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"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 17, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds awesome.
In fact, to make it even better let’s allow fighters to take each other to the ground and continue fighting there. Hell, since they’re on the ground might as well add submissions (chokes, joint locks, etc.). Throw them in smaller gloves and, baby…you got a stew goin.
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"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva
For those that say boxing isn't dying
Watch Hopkins vs Dawson
What a bunch of trash that fight was.
Dawson tossing Hopkins to the mat. Hopkins “injuring” his shoulder…again. And what the F was the ref doing? Terrible.
"Hi. I don't know you." - me
"Cigano punch my face...all the time." - Anderson Silva
Dear FEG
So you want to make some fuckin’ money?
Start giving Fight Network in Canada some libraries for a lower price.
People in Canada love kickboxing, even people I know that don’t like MMA love it. The problem is, some of the latest K-1 events on Fight Network are from 2008.
Sell your footage for a proper price and stop being shitty at international business,
your friend, DirtyML.
It's just a world, it's just a life.
And because it has to do with K1
Time for my favorite eulogy video ever for a kickboxer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KltbxRVP0gU The great Andy Hug.
It's just a world, it's just a life.
For those of you who started watching K-1 recently and enjoyed it, I would recommend trying to watch all the “It’s Showtime” events you can get your hands on. HDNet airs them in the US with some delay, they had the MAX (-70kg) tournament from last month showing on Friday I believe. Really solid field there, one night 8 man tournament with names like Andy Souwer and Artur Kyshenko. They basically have the same rule-set as K-1 and most of the top fighters nowadays.
by Horselover Fat on Oct 16, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If u want to search for a positive spin maybe a break might ne good. I know one of the reasons the World Cup and Olympics are so revered is because there is so much time in between. I say shoot for a 12 or 13 grand prix to reignite excitement
TV Journalist Chris Hanson is a cockblocker
by rocket8188 on Oct 16, 2011 9:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Was anyone surprised?
Whoever the new owners of K-1 are, aren’t going to pay out MILLIONS of dollars in owed salaries from an era when they never owned the company just to put on a show that hardly anyone is clamouring for, save for hardcore kickboxing enthusiasts.
God that movie was disappointing.
The opera house scene was the only slightly cool part of GF III. And the first 2 were SO good.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 17, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions
and now all i have Its Showtime :(
Lame.
"I thought I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury." – Tank after losing a decision to Dan Severn
by pridedaze09 on Oct 16, 2011 11:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can't wait for Rogan to say strikers are "It's Showtime Level" now.
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by Zachary Kater on Oct 16, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
"I thought I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury." – Tank after losing a decision to Dan Severn
by pridedaze09 on Oct 17, 2011 12:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe he'll go the other way
“Jake has been devoting alot of time to improving his striking technique, but Matt Hughes is no joke either. He really battered Renzo Gracie with solid low kicks and punching combinations, as well as dropping Ricardo Almeida with a left hook.”
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Oct 17, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there any reason It's Showtime couldn't take over an anual Grand Prix event?
It’s already kind of an expected event that everyone looks forward to, would draw big names and numbers, I think it’d be a good business decision for It’s Showtime to hold their own, non-co promoted finals tournament annually.
Joe, it looks like the K1-Level Striking, which is ever dangerous, has been finally over come by K1’s new found inability to pay it’s fighters.
by squaresphere on Oct 17, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Now it´s confirmed by It´s Showtime!
http://www.itsshowtime.nl/index.php?p=news&id=127
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