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Ed Soares: Anderson Silva Only Has Around Four Fights Left, Sonnen Should Be Back of the Line

OAKLAND CA - AUGUST 07:  Chael Sonnen kicks Anderson Silva during the UFC Middleweight Championship bout at Oracle Arena on August 7 2010 in Oakland California.  (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Zuffa LLC/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images)

Anderson Silva's manager, Ed Soares, recently spoke to SporTV in Brazil and made it clear that Silva is reaching the end of his career. He also stated that Chael Sonnen shouldn't get the next shot.

Here's a clip from the article, translated by Tom Mendes:

Let's see what the big boss is going to do. My opinion is that he had his chance and tapped, he should go back to the end of the line. The same thing is true with Vitor Belfort. They're great fighters, but they had their chance. Sonnen would make a big fight, as would Dan Henderson and Georges St-Pierre, but we should recognize that Anderson only has around 4 fights left in his career.

It's sad to know that Silva is in the twilight of his career, but it does remain a positive to know that (at least for now) the plan is to get out at an appropriate time and before his skills have gone.

Still, other than St. Pierre or Jon Jones there simply is not a bigger fight out there for Silva than Sonnen. Moving Vitor to the theoretical "back of the line" makes sense given Belfort didn't have a second of success. Chael, however, had roughly 1,380.

I'll continue hoping that "the big boss" sees fit to put Chael and Anderson in the cage together one more time.

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you’ve said all you need.

scotch?

Jonny Bench called.

by Sterling Archer on Oct 13, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm still on board.

If this fight never happens, it’s going to stick in the craw of the sport’s history ten years from now. People have wanted this fight for a long time. In a long term sense, it’s meaningless who wins, but I think it’ll be a terrible what if? to leave undone, when there’s every reason to do it from a fan’s perspective. They’re only separated by one weight class, and regardless of how it turns out, it’d be the greatest superfight in the sport’s young history.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree-

at least IMO, it’s the best fight that could ever be made. And as you said- the size difference isn’t even that huge. They meet at a catchweight, and I bet you Anderson doesn’t walk into the cage more than 10 lbs heavier than Georges. Because GSP is a BIG welterweight; Anderson is an average sized middleweight. People get hung up on the height difference, but the reach is SUPER close- GSP has a 76’ inch reach, Anderson has a 77.5 inch reach; and although Anderson is around 4 inches taller, he’s a lanky dude, and GSP is THICK.

And i’m still VERY intrigued by the style matchup.

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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

amen

since silva actually loses real weight to make weight (doesn’t dehydrate) then he doesn’t swell back up by fight time. i’ve been saying this for a while.

by tha dude on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson silva isnt that lanky, Yushin Okami was only the slightest bit thicker then Anderson…. 4 inches taller is huge advantage…. rather see him fight Bones Jones where he has no advantage

by folsomprison on Oct 14, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can it be a waste of his time fighting the person who is the greatest challenge to his skillset? It also happens to be the bigge$t fight by far at MW.

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by Hardy's in your face on Oct 14, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a waste of time if Chael doesn't demonstrate the ability to defend basic guard submissions.

And considering how the ref of the Sonnen/ Stann fight abruptly interrupted Stann’s 1 serious triangle opportunity, standing them up for nor real reason, I am not particularly sold on Chael’s ability to defend the basic guard subs, which Anderson has become so proficient at.

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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 14, 2011 5:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

This is exactly right.

Well, I don’t agree that Stann was threatening Chael at all, and I also want to see Silva v Sonnen 2 before Silva retires, but I do agree that we have no reason to think that Chael’s submission defense is any better than before.

by jhf884 on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's such bullshit

Go look at Anthony Johnson if you want to see a “big WW.” GSp is average for his weight class.

And if Anderson wants the fight why doesn’t he drop weight classes? is he scared? or maybe do both fighters want to be in their own weight classes?

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get off GSP's nuts

The dude doesn’t walk around at 170, and I never said AJ wasn’t a big WW. I didn’t say “GSP is the biggest WW in division”. I said he is not going to accept a catchweight match with Anderson. If Anderson goes down to 170 though GSP will fight him.

by Tairy Hesticles on Oct 13, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude their are very few fighters in ANY weight class that walk around at their fighting weight. Anderson Silva doesn’t. Jon Jones doesn’t. Of all the current UFC champions, only Frankie Edgar and Cain Velasquez (and most HW don’t cut) actually walks around at their fighting weight. For GSP to qualify as a big WW he’d have to cut more on average then most WW’s, and he doesn’t. Alves, Johnson, DHK all probably walk around signifigantly higher.

I said he is not going to accept a catchweight match with Anderson. If Anderson goes down to 170 though GSP will fight him.</blockquote
Well Anderson clearly doesn’t seem to be clamoring for a catchweight either, doesn’t make either fighter scared.

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddanmit

Fucking block quote fail

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point still made

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by LRaunThaDamaja on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

GSP said before though that he wasn't going to fight Anderson

When we thought Anderson was going to retire the first time. Anderson has yet to say he won’t fight. And you’d think the GOAT want’s to go out with a bang.

by Tairy Hesticles on Oct 13, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

GSP has said he wants to maintain his legacy as the greatest WW ever

And not mess that up bulking up for a MW fight. GSP knows, from busting up BJ’s ass, that moving up in weight isn’t an easy move especially at the championship level. The whole situation is quite different from what your portraying.

Anderson hasn’t been clamoring for the fight, and he himself has stated that he doesn’t want to fight Jones. Does that make him a coward too?

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think either is a coward

But I think that GSP knows he probably wouldn’t be favored to win. A catchweight would be the most fair, given that the two men weigh close to the same around fight time, despite fighting in different weight classes. I recall a quote somewhere that GSP rehydrates to the high 180s the night of the fight and another quote where Andy or Soares said that Silva was a couple of pounds away from 185 a few days before his fight.

Dana probably doesn’t want this because it tarnishes one of his champions without any real upside other than a blockbuster PPV. If he thought GSP had a very good chance of winning he might be more inclined to make it because it would send GSP into the stratosphere (and take the UFC along with him) and GSP probably has quite a few more years than Silva does.

by Pantherhare on Oct 13, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that neither is a coward,

they just want things on their own terms, but your weight scenario is pretty flawed. GSP rehydrates to the high 180’s, fine, but then saying Anderson is close to 185 before the fight is meaningless in that context. Anderson presumably rehydrates to around 200lbs, and has been upwards of 210 walking around weight. No fair weight to fight this at. They either want to do it for their legacies, or they don’t. I’m sure they realize the UFC would make it well worthwhile.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

im pretty sure hes right about silva

silva doesnt cut weight, he diets down coming into the fight, he doesnt balloon back up on the day of the fight, he fights at 185.

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by Sterling Archer on Oct 13, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What?

He doesn’t cut any weight? I knew he wasn’t doing anything extreme, but he also walks around at plus 210.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

in the weeks leading to fight he diets down slowly losing weight naturally so he doesnt have to cut a large amount and drain himself of his jedi powers.

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by Sterling Archer on Oct 13, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well WTF?

Anderson’s holy powers make him unique among all men, but certainly if he can cut 25lbs in dieting over a camp, others could as well? You’re telling me he’s still a WW? That he’s the Frankie Edgar of the MW division? My mind is blown. Fortunately I’m experienced with that.

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

silva stepped off the plane in abu dhabi weighing 182 pounds. all of these people that think silva is 210 on fight night are WAY off.

by tha dude on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

You said GSP was to scared, implying he is a coward. Completely just contradicted yourself there

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

look at the usernames

Not the same guy

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh lord

Should stop mobile commenting while I play Gears of War

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by sitnam90 on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or just stop playing Gears of War

Business as Usual has a STACKED team. I mean, we could win with just me, but you know.

by halitosis on Oct 14, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

St pierre didnt look big against…..Koshcheck….Pit bull…..Jake Shields…Matt hughes… John Fitch…. If st pierre went up to middle weight he’d be obviously undersized… Where as if Silva went up to light heavy weight he’d fit right in with shogun machida and rashad…

by folsomprison on Oct 14, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

First—Those are some of the biggest guys in the division, meaning that Pierre is also one of the biggest.

Second—Pierre looks bigger than at least half those guys. I don’t care how fat they get in between camps—their “fighting weight” (i.e. the ideal weight they would weigh to fight, discounting cutting) is roughly the same as Pierre’s, or in some cases a lot lower.

Third—You are comparing Silva to some of the smallest LHWs, all those guys look like they could cut down to 185—particularly Shogun and Machida. Maybe they don’t cut weight well, but they are all on the small side for LHW.

So you aren’t comparing Silva and Pierre to similarly sized folks w/i their divisions. Would Pierre be small for MW? Sure. That’s why a catchweight fight is appropriate.

by jhf884 on Oct 14, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really sick of Ed Soares

Who cares what he has to say or thinks

by Darkknight95 on Oct 13, 2011 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

+2

i respect the shit outta Soares

by NastyGuido on Oct 13, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck Ed Soares

He is a whiny bitch

Chael Sonnen is in the building Bitchezzz!

by MichaelD8 on Oct 14, 2011 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find myself disagreeing with most everything he says but I’m sure he is good at some aspect of the job?

by AHutch on Oct 13, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s just trying to up the asking price. It’s his job.

by Gideon Jay on Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yep

If I’m Soares and they want me to put Anderson back in there with a guy that was gassed up and lost clean so they can get their big money rematch he better make them pay “Anderson Silva money” x2.

by Dpez71 on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quack… but not really

by schm1583 on Oct 13, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

that gets a rec

Don't be scared Gomi...

by ThatsHowIRoll on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I wasn’t lazy and horrible at photoshop, I’d shoop that shit.

by Diz D on Oct 13, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Make that into a t-shirt.

And I’ll take 5.

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by POW on Oct 13, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im totally missing the joke, please someone fill me in here, no homo.

by AHutch on Oct 13, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed
Im totally missing the joke, please someone fill me in here, no homo romo.

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by Sugel Mendoza on Oct 13, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ed Soares make me grouchy

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by Earl Montclair on Oct 13, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Does Soares not realize that him talking like this makes it look like he’s scared for Anderson in a rematch? Like he’s just not sure he’ll be able to pull off another last second miracle. If saying he had his chance and tapped (not taped) means Chael should go to the end of the line, then why are so many people – including Dana – anxious to see a rematch? It because of what happend in the first 4 1/2 rounds you moron. Total domination by Sonnen unlike any fighter has EVER done to Silva in the history of his career. He must be able to understand that so that’s why him not wanting Chael to get another chance looks so suspicious. I’d love to see his lists of who Silva should finish out his career fighting.

by DerSpiegel on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that's exactly what he's doing

He wants to protect Silva’s legacy, which will result in him continuing to pocket large amounts of $$$. I think he realizes that Chael has a very real chance of defeating Silva, and Vitor, although his fight with Silva wasnn’t very competitive, is still very dangerous so he wants to avoid those rematches. He seems to be very risk adverse when it comes to Anderson’s opposition. I don’t remember ever hearing a word from him about how Damian or Leites doesn’t deserve another chance, but I remember him pulling the same type of shit after the Hendo fight

by savik on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the fanbase and Dana himself

Weren’t clamoring for Maia or Leites rematches either. He doesn’t have to talk down things that people aren’t asking for.

by The so-called Beautiful on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

Totally and completely. What if anderson loses to sonnen. Silva would end,up in the back of the line lol

by onefathead on Oct 14, 2011 1:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's only one fight removed....

End of story
All he’s saying is give somebody else a shot! Damn!
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by Brain Melter on Oct 14, 2011 2:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Alright Ed...

Speaking as the biggest Silva nuthugger on the site, I must say ENOUGH with the duck talk. If Dana wants it, you gotta do it.

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by warren305 on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I admire Silva

I despise Soares an equal amount. I realize he’s trying the hard sell to make his client more money but I still can’t stand his rationalizations.

Silva vs Sonnen II is the fight that everyone wants. The fans, the UFC, Chael, and possibly even Silva. There are no other legitimate MW contenders. And despite Silva’s amazing last round submission win, Chael took it to him like no other fighter has for the preceding 4.5 minutes.

by Cocytus on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

This is pointless to fret about because Silva is going to fight whomever Dana tells him to. It is going to happen, the DW has decreed it and therefore it shall be so.

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by crizzy on Oct 13, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well here we go.

Let’s hear your other brilliant ideas for opponents Ed. Unless you’re fighting GSP or Hendo next, this is crap. Oh well, Chael’s response should be entertaining.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

"Hell, Ed Soares lives in the ruins of an ancient temple deep in the jungle, dosed with ayahuasca by his pygmy hordes, reading poetry, quoting philosophy, while his servants worship the pet bus the Nogs brought home from America. He won’t bring his stupid blood drinking savages out to meet me on equal footing. He wants me to get on a boat, and travel deep upriver into the Amazon, where supposedly this fake idol, Anderson Silva awaits me dressed in pink with his stupid hat on backwards. Well guess what. I will BUY that TICKET and take that RIDE!!!"

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Its like he is cinderella and after the 4th fight he will turn back into a pumkin.

by nsiegel on Oct 13, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It's like he's made millions and has no need or desire to fight into his 40's

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by Chris Hall on Oct 13, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever Ed. Silva/Sonnen has to happen cause Silva/GSP, Silva/Jones, and Silva/Dollaway ain't ever happening.

Or maybe he thinks Bisping does deserve the shot?

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by pud333 on Oct 13, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

“Hell, Ed Soares lives in the ruins of an ancient temple deep in the jungle, dosed with ayahuasca by his pygmy hordes, reading poetry, quoting philosophy, while his servants worship the pet bus the Nogs brought home from America. He won’t bring his stupid blood drinking savages out to meet me on equal footing. He wants me to get on a boat, and travel deep upriver into the Amazon, where supposedly this fake idol, Anderson Silva awaits me dressed in pink with his stupid hat on backwards. Well guess what. I will BUY that TICKET and take that RIDE!!!”

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva’s last fights SHOULD NOT be bisping munoz and leban…. .. I dont care how many dumb fans want to see him “knock out bisping” …….total waste of his last fights…….. Who the hell does silva want to fight?

by folsomprison on Oct 14, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen is the only realistic fight that makes sense

But this is strictly posturing. Of course they’d rather go out with a couple huge $ superfights and I’m sure that’s what they are looking for. Otherwise, who, Bisping? No thanks.

by aptar on Oct 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to see Bisping vs Silva

Should be a fun destruction.

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would soares say such a thing.

he is putting a limit on his fighters abilities. if he is so dominate in the weight class and continues to put away people like he has then 4 fights seems a little low. Soares obviously doesn’t want an opponent for Silva that will actually challenge his title

by Sonnyshit on Oct 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s the way it seems to me………Henderson, Sonnen and Belfort if he wins again all good

by folsomprison on Oct 14, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen lost to Jeremy Horn. Then he proceeded to lose two more times.

Light snack for though

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Filho even knew he was fighting Sonnen the second time around. Just sayin’.

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by pud333 on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that...

was a 2 v 1 tag team match.

by Wokko on Oct 13, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That invisble fight verbally distracted Paulo and left him open to Sonnens strikes. It was a sad handicapp match.

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by dandeman on Oct 13, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree it's about money or ego

I think about putting Sonnen in his place. Let’s be real, Sonnen has now built his entire career out of one fight and on one factor; that he lasted 5 rounds with Silva. That’s it. how many quality fighters have Sonnen beaten?? He lasts 5 rounds with Silva and now walks around as if he invented MMA.

Would it be a huge fight? Absolutely. but bottom line is Sonnen had his turn….AND TAPPED. Nothing his fans can ever say can erase that!

This is one time I would welcome Silva’s decision to skip this fight. Haters will say what they want regardless. If they want to say the greatest fighter in MMA history is ducking a guy who couldn’t make it past Damiam Maia, great. More power to them

Let Sonnen fight Henderson and see if he can get past that fight. Then perhaps Silva should consider giving him a shot.

Bottom line, Silva is the champ and the champ should not play by the loser’s rules.

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by stainlesssteel on Oct 13, 2011 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Who do you suggest he fights then?

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by Earl Montclair on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly what I was wondering

who can actually challenge silva? Who would be even the slightest threat to his title? Maybe once strikeforce is absorbed we can get some credible opponents but sonnen is at the very top as a current threat to the MW belt.

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

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by El Pablo Diablo on Oct 13, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Silva’s next opponent is?

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by AusEagle on Oct 13, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would prefer to see anyone next other than Sonnen

even Michael Bisping

And if anyone should ask you, I've got the gamblers blues.

by stainlesssteel on Oct 13, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

so u just got beef with Sonnen then? He is the #2 man.

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by Earl Montclair on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a bad example.

I’d love to see Bisping get clowned.

I’d go with,
i would prefer to see anyone next other than Sonnen
even Kalib Starnes running away for 5 rounds.

by Diz D on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got beef? no

i just don’t think he deserves an immediate rematch, just because he lasted 5 rounds. also the right to face the champ is a privelege, not a right, granted by the promoter and the champ. a fighter deserves a title match because he eliminates all other contenders, not just because he was the last man to give the champ a tough fight and there is no one eles around and he talks smack about the champ, his country and his wife.

my point is Sonnen’s BEHAVIOR, should delay his title hopes. when he learns to condust himself with some class and show respect for others, then others will show respect for him and Silva will grant him the opportunity to get submitted again.

And if anyone should ask you, I've got the gamblers blues.

by stainlesssteel on Oct 13, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather never should have been allowed to fight for titles.

What were the sanctioning bodies thinking?

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by pdl on Oct 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

when tyson fought for the title

he had wiped out most contenders, many in less than one round.

sonnen has one lonely bone in his graveyard: hanging with Silva for 5 rounds. let him go fight, Henderson, Belfort, Poulhares, Tom Lawlor, Cantwell, Munoz, then he would have some standing other than, I only tapped in the last minute.

And if anyone should ask you, I've got the gamblers blues.

by stainlesssteel on Oct 13, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia would suffice for me. Go avenge that loss and then, after all the drama and nonsense Chael was involved in, talk about his title shot.

It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
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by memitim on Oct 13, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tom Lawlor? Steve Cantwell?

I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.

by SSreporters on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you one of those people that thinks the UFC offers up title fights based on merit? really? i accepted long ago that title fights are awarded based on potential PPV $’s.

to wit: matt serra, travis lutter, brock lesnar, dan hardy, kenny florian, joe riggs, diego sanchez……all fighters that were awarded title fights based on, um, needing to make a fight for the champ.

by tha dude on Oct 14, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could justify all of those except for Riggs.

by Diz D on Oct 14, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen is 4-1 in his last five

with three top 10 wins. Two of those were actually top 3. Only loss is to the champ. Who at MW has a better resume right now? Bisping, who barely avoided getting KO’d by Wanderlei last year? Munoz, who got rocked by Maia en route to what was likely a draw and he was lucky to get a win out of? Stann, who just lost to said Chael Sonnen?

Oh wait, you mentioned Cantwell who is 0-1 at MW and hasn’t won a fight at any weight since 2008. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

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by pdl on Oct 14, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you think anyone deserves a shot

except the guy who could actually beat silva and the only guy to ever give silva problems in the ufc? Right. Your blind hate is…..blinding. Big surprise. Someone doesn’t like sonner

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by El Pablo Diablo on Oct 13, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

“….how many quality fighters have Sonnen beaten?? He lasts 5 rounds with Silva and now walks around as if he invented MMA.”

Setting aside the Silva fight, I would say steamrolling Marquardt, Okami, and Stann buys him some serious MW credibility. Add to that, taking 4 1/2 rounds from a dominate champ, and you have a pretty good reason for a rematch. His headache in getting a rematch is due to his testosterone sidelining. An immediate rematch would have been lined up and wanted by most until his T problem. Now he is in an earn it situation, not helped by his Nevada commision issues. So I don’t buy your claim that he has earned it by his in cage fights. He has…..and that is not the problem here.

by Snake_Pliskan on Oct 13, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

pls dude, don't even mention stann and thanks for the testosterone issue

forgot about that. add to that the real estate drubbing he took from the courts.

has there ever been a challenger less deserving of a rematch??

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by stainlesssteel on Oct 13, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're comparing sonnen to st pierre??

really?

plus if GSP had been running around shooting his mouth off at Serra and his ethnic background, insulting Serra’s wife and generally making a mockery of the sport, then yes Serra would have had every right to tell him take a walk and kick rocks. When I am good and ready, you will get a rematch.

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by stainlesssteel on Oct 13, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

GSP beat two top ten opponents before getting his rematch

I know it was Serra first defense, but GSP still earned the rematch.

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by Chris Hall on Oct 13, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

sonnen shouldn’t fight silva because sonnen was a shady real estate agent? that’s comparing apples to elephants.

by tha dude on Oct 14, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

he didn’t just “last” 5 rounds, he dominated 4 rounds. Silva had to get the finish to win the fight. Silva did get the finish, kudos to him. But it is seriously disingenuous to act as if Sonnen merely “lasted” 5 rounds.

Leites “lasted” 5 rounds, Maia “lasted” 5 rounds. Big difference.

by jhf884 on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The cyclical nature of MMA news is so funny to me

I could compare these comments to the comments on an article from a year and probably see 75% of the exact same thing

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year ago*

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by Austin Martin on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth. This just goes on and on. At least Roy Jones is out of the picture at the moment.

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just Soares' opinion, and that's it.

Yeah. I remember Soares saying that Belfort shouldn’t get a Title shot against Anderson either. The thing that MMA fans tend to forget about Soares is that he is asked a question, and he gives a very honest answer. However, that answer is not law and generally doesn’t come to fruition as shown in the fact that Anderson did fight Vitor even though Soares said that he didn’t deserve the fight. Just because Soares feels that Sonnen shouldn’t get a rematch, that doesn’t mean that Anderson and Sonnen won’t fight. Soares isn’t the matchmaker, and he has said something similar to this before, but Anderson still fought who the UFC put in front of him.

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by chrisbboy82 on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing no one cares what Ed Soares thinks!

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by mmazing on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

wish i had thought of this

brilliant!

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by stainlesssteel on Oct 14, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Die, Joe Buck. Die.

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by Earl Montclair on Oct 13, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

This^

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

see!

even Ed Soares knows bisping should be at the front of the line!

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by Chronic on Oct 13, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

What's with the Hendo/Silva talk?

Silva destroyed him the first time and Hendo isn’t to hot at MW lately. Unless Silva moves up, but I’d rather fight GSP or Jones or just keep his MW legacy intact.

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I would also rather see GSP or Jones but Hendo isn't that bad of an option...

he’s coming off some wins and one of them is a full blown KO of FEDOR (yes, I still capitalize his name) so you know he always has a punchers chance. I definitely don’t think Bisping either though….. hopefully Mayhem takes care of that little situation.

by MauiPimpin on Oct 13, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo fighting for the MW championship would not happen. Hendo can not fight at 185 reliably, he gasses out quickly and he is just getting too old for that crap. He can do just fine at 205, he is one of the top fighters there so why suck weight to fight Silva? Then if he wins, what is he going to do? He would have to stay there and defend the title.

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by crizzy on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s stated that he would go back down to 185 for a rematch with Silva, so so none of the reasons you gave against him going down matter. Also, Dana has said that if he beats Shogun he could go down and fight Anderson. That rematch actually has a good chance of happening

by savik on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is that Hendo would have to STAY at 185 if he were to win. It isn’t a weight he can stay at long term at his age IMO.

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by crizzy on Oct 14, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn right

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by warren305 on Oct 13, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit

That is amazing

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I probably wouldn’t have enjoyed your angry rant, and I enjoyed this immensely.

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by POW on Oct 13, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't stop watching

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by warren305 on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

I don’t have a clue what the fuck this is. Is it a dog riding a goat? Then how is it wearing shoes? Or it is a midget/child? I DONT KNOWLETSMUTHERFUCKERS

by Andy Davis on Oct 13, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a monkey riding a goat/ram/whatever. And its wearing shoes because that’s what monkeys do.

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by Tim Bernier on Oct 13, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for my FB status update

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by Chris Hall on Oct 13, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no! There gonna eat MONKEY!

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by El Pablo Diablo on Oct 13, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fuck....

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by TorQus on Oct 14, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was better when Deo did it

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by Chris Hall on Oct 14, 2011 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Avoiding Sonnen would be the most troll-tastic move possible

I hope Silva fights 3 other guys before Sonnen. In the meantime, Sonnen will probably lose again and it will be awesome.

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by Farthammer on Oct 13, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean… other than Maia or Palhares, both of whom aren’t contenders currently.

by Diz D on Oct 13, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia's not?

What about Jeremy Horn? Or Filho? Or Terry Martin? Or Babalu? Or Trevor Prangley?

I mean, the man has 11 losses. Why is he unbeatable now?

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by Farthammer on Oct 13, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia is probably won win away from a mid tier fighter before he’s back in contender status. By contender, I mean possibly one win away from a title shot… which, IMO, he’s not.

by Diz D on Oct 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's 3-1 since losing to Silva (I think)

I would love to see him fight Chael for a #1 contender spot.

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by Farthammer on Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is 3-1… but he lost to Munoz and just beat Santiago coming off a loss. He needs to beat someone coming off a win now… That’s the way the UFC usually does it.

Winner of Munoz/Leben would have to be above Maia right now.

Sonnen won’t fight Leben, but I think Munoz could potentially pose some problems for Chael.

by Diz D on Oct 13, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if all of the contenders have to fight each other first, then who is silva supposed to fight? face the facts: there is no ranking system in the UFC. title shots are given randomly. dan hardy?

by tha dude on Oct 14, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Hardy was on a 4 fight winning streak.
Demian Maia is on a 1 fight winning streak and already got embarassed by the current champion.

You were saying?

by Diz D on Oct 14, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s beatable, but he has a good skillset for the division he’s in.

You either need to be a very, very solid wrestler (Okami level won’t cut it) with better striking or someone who can submit him off their back (Maia, Palhares came to mind) in order to have a clear path to victory.

Other than Silva/Filho/Maia, those losses came in another division/over 5 years ago/etc. I don’t think you can reliably state that Martin/Horn/Prangley would have a good shot at winning these days…

by Diz D on Oct 13, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make Sonnen

fight Rockhold as a title elimination match

by Patrick Hughes on Oct 13, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to see Rockhold in a little lighter in his first UFC fight.

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by POW on Oct 13, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the day will come but....

The thought of anyone else currently in the MW division holding the belt when Silva retires makes me weep inside.especially Sonnen.

by I_Mad on Oct 13, 2011 7:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Anyone know if......

Rashad could truly make 185 I would be very interested in seeing that.

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by Bloodsport on Oct 13, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I've always thought he could

But he looked huge his last fight, so IDK. I think he has a great chance of beating Silva though

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by sitnam90 on Oct 13, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't look that big

And still looked smaller than his opponent.

by Worldisart on Oct 13, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looked pretty big for Rashad and more solid than before

And don’t forget Tito is a pretty big LHW himself

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by Chris Hall on Oct 13, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito is a fucking brickhouse.

He made me feel small. It’s not just his build; it’s his fucking domepiece.

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by Farthammer on Oct 13, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Titos head alone is LW

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by Bloodsport on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Assuming they ever fight

The ass whipping Jones is going to put on him will make Rashad think long and hard about escaping that division, especially with Anderson on the way out.

by The so-called Beautiful on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know if......

Rashad could truly make 185 I would be very interested in seeing that.

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by Bloodsport on Oct 13, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He’s stated that he would rather go to heavyweight than go down to middleweight so the talk of him coming down is pointless

by savik on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It pretty much has to be Sonnen. Ain’t no bigger fight for Silva than that. If he’s confident he can beat him, why not do it again?

by Horselover Fat on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

in order: Sonnen, GSP, Jones, Bisping (ensure he goes out on a win, regardless of what else happens).

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by Cory Braiterman on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a huge Andy fan

not so big a fan of Soares though. I’m going to chalk this statement up to some really really great stealth like fight hype. Just as Chael falls into his role as the heel, Silva has to fall into the roll of the “guy who doesn’t want the fight.” This does nothing but hype the fight even more because Sonnen will be talking so much. It’s a great game that they are playing and it is really going to work (not that this fight needs any more hype).

by Hart Thorson on Oct 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Munoz

or Palhares

or Rockhold if they can get him from Stirkeforce

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by T.P. Grant on Oct 13, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

All three of those guys get smashed. Munoz almost got TKO’ed by maia, Palhares might fare well but he would lose in the stand up bad, and Rockhold did have a solid performance against Souza but I still think it wouldn’t be that competitive because he only has 9 or 10 fights under his belt

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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Oct 13, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make it three if you don’t mind…

by Clark Griswald on Oct 13, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

why is anderson ducking chael. i thought he said his rib was hurting in there first fight and that is the reason he perform poorly

by sandvilage on Oct 13, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Its also going to be pissing off Dana White.

Even Anderson Silva won’t make Anderson Silva money if he’s looking to fight 4 bums and leave like a thief in the night.

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by sBruce24 on Oct 13, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best chance of Anderson being beat is

Jon Jones, GSP, JDS or Cain, Overeem, or jason miller.

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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Oct 13, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Might as well add Joe Louis to that list.

Come to think of it…that’s a fight I’d like to see.

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by POW on Oct 13, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Bisping?

I heard a rumor from an incredibly reliable source that he stood a great chance stylistically against the champ.

by Lodz on Oct 13, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Superman, the Hulk, Jesus, Putin, Minowaman

by Horselover Fat on Oct 13, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some how this is vaguely familiar, was this a set of toys at some point or a cartoon?

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by Kefka on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this was it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYF_B037zI

the 80s were so much better.

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by DirtyML on Oct 14, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what exactly are Ed's ideal picks for Silva's last four fights then???

Being his manager, I would assume he would want Anderson to finish his career cementing his legacy and taking fights that would draw Silva some decent PPV points money. Aside from the Jones and GSP fan fantasy match ups, who the hell does Soares think makes a remotely interesting middleweight defense? Anderson has already beaten everybody at 185 that nobody cared about. People would pay to see Sonnen Silva 2, end of discussion. And after 4 and a half rounds of their first meeting going the way it did, does Ed really want his fighter to retire without putting an emphatic end to the Sonnen question when people talk about Silva’s legacy?

by Lodz on Oct 13, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Penn vs. St. Pierre
Silva vs. Franklin
Penn vs. Edgar
Edgar vs. Maynard
Shogun vs. Machida

Just a couple of title rematches off the top of my head. Out of those I don’t see any that are more less valid in it’s need for a rematch than Sonnen vs. Silva. We literally just got out of months of promotion for Edgar vs. Maynard, and the fight went the complete opposite way. Yet still, Maynard seemed the favorite of anyone in the know. So how in the world is this fight not an obvious or deserving fight to be made? Silva doesn’t want his legacy tarnished with such a dangerous fight having so few left, and everyone else is just doing a troll job because they don’t like Sonnen as a person. Let’s call a spade a spade.

by GogoPlatter on Oct 13, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Soares be trollin

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by Chris Hall on Oct 13, 2011 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

and we all eagerly await Sonnen’s response.

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by AusEagle on Oct 13, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

silva would whoop up on sonnen in a rematch.

Whoop him. And whoop him bad. It was obvious that Silva was injured in their first fight

by XingYi on Oct 13, 2011 9:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I have probably watched Silva/Sonnen 15 times and

I get so fucking pissed every time I see Sonnens bacne.

by b2tharad on Oct 13, 2011 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

It was super distracting in HD

Especially with Sonnen being on top most of the fight

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by Bar Belle on Oct 13, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I was paying too much attention to the fight to check Sonnen out.

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by Bloodsport on Oct 13, 2011 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just look at his ass instead.

by Horselover Fat on Oct 14, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen should get the fight. Who else at that weight class is a threat to Silva? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Sonnen has the perfect style to deal with Silva, but a huge weakness that plays to Silva’s advantage in a five round fight. If Sonnen wins you get to have a huge upset and an trilogy match, and if Silva wins you can continue to hype him up as the greatest of all time. You could have a scenario were anyone rooting for Sonnen is going to be nervous anytime it hits the ground, and Silva’s fans are going to be concerned for every second that he’s on his back.

Finally, Silva having a rival who can promote a fight is not a bad thing at all. This fights a no brainer.

by discoandherpes on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

But… (Insert long drawn out argument against this idea because the person dislikes Sonnen)

Saying that, it’s obvious he doesn’t deserve the shot.

by Empty Thoughts on Oct 13, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scared Spider?

All this makes Anderson sound scared to loose to Sonnan
What does everyone think?

by piojopeligroso on Oct 13, 2011 9:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

He should fire Soares

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by warren305 on Oct 13, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some really funny, redundant, idiotic and smart comments posted here.

Uhh . . . Brent thanks for the information. Mr. Tom Mendes, thanks for the translation.

Damn only 4-5 fights left.

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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 13, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe 4 fights left at middleweight

He’s going to move up to LHW for the money fights

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by kellly on Oct 13, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soares is obviously trying to protect Silva's legacy

He knows that Chael would most likely dominate him once again.

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by TDITZ on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

which part of dominate..

is losing decisively and tapping out?

by Canis.Majoris on Oct 13, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 20+ minutes leading up to the triangle.

If you think Anderson wasn’t being dominated, then you are blind.

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by TDITZ on Oct 13, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I know if you’re looking for a sub off you’re back you can let a wrestler do pitty pat strikes for 20 min.

by Canis.Majoris on Oct 13, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah that was the game plan. Get beat up on his back and risk losing a decision because he wanted that sub.

I can’t believe people still somehow believe this was the master plan for Silva.

by Empty Thoughts on Oct 14, 2011 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU ED!

Keep Firing, Assholes!

Time to put some meat in your pain sandwich.

by Ubernoober on Oct 13, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, he's the best challenger at middleweight,

but since Anderson is injured and needs time to heal, I wish they would make the superfight between Ando and GSP (given that he beats Condit). I know Diaz is set for a title shot if he beats Penn, but if BJ spoils Diaz’ UFC return, then GSP/ Anderson makes A TON of sense.

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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has name value.

But he lost decisively.

Strikeforce matchmaking.

by Canis.Majoris on Oct 13, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He lost decisively by submission after winning the previous 4 rounds against Silva, a feat, mind you, that no one has accomplished since Silva joined the UFC. Henderson sort of kinda not really had one round that was similar. Context matters.

by Cocytus on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

winning rounds isn’t winning fights. A loss is a loss. This isn’t ultimate round winning championship is it?

by Canis.Majoris on Oct 14, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, a loss is a loss… but a loss isn’t necessarily a decisive loss because there was a finish… which was his point.

by Diz D on Oct 14, 2011 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn

 …Coker kinda looks like an old ass BJ Penn.

by pillowfists on Oct 14, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of excess neck, need pelican gif.

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by Kefka on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nooooooo

Stann title shot = Strikeforce matchmaking

by TheCode on Oct 14, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats why

they fed him to Sonnen. They knew Stann wouldn’t win unless he got some lucky shot.

by Canis.Majoris on Oct 14, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, SF matchmaking would be setting up Silva vs Stann next.

by Shnak on Oct 14, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he really only has 4 fights left I think chael has to be soon. I think Jon Jones or GSP would have to be last because both of them have people to fight in their divisions for at least the next 2 fights, but who else would Silva fight if not Chael? Probably the way for anderson (and the UFC) to make the most money if he really has 4 fights left would be Chael, Bisping/Mayhem, Hendo, Jones/GSP. The hendo one is a little iffy, maybe by then Munoz or someone will have worked their way up, but i can’t see that being a big money match.

I really hope this is some sort of negotiating tactic because this, like the Roy Jones thing really just doesn’t make sense to me, and I have no idea when Soares keeps throwing out insane ideas.

by Phildo on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Silva’s next 4 fights should be: Chael, Chael Chael, Chael.

Keep Firing, Assholes!

Time to put some meat in your pain sandwich.

by Ubernoober on Oct 13, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You must really like seeing Chael get caught in basic guard submissions

Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Oct 13, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why Chael has left Maia out of his gibberish rants. You think of all the fights against Brazilians he’d want to redeem himself of, it’d be that one.

by Juda_Ben_Heard on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’m with Brain Melter on this one. Calling Silva a chimp is pretty racist. You probably voted for him, POS.

by Juda_Ben_Heard on Oct 14, 2011 2:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Kind of an arbitrary number to be honest.

not that it’s incorrect… just arbitrary

Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Oct 14, 2011 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Laying in someones guard is not a dominant position

I don’t think chael looked that good against silva. he couldn’t pass the guard, ate as many significant strikes from andersons guard as he delivered,and got submitted in the guard.
           In my opinion the guard is a netural position and domination should be determined by activity and efficiensy. The only real success Sonnen had in that fight was the takedowns. In all other aspects, both grappling and stand-up-wise he got dominated.
           In some parallel universe a guy can lay between an other guys legs for 23 minutes getting punched in the face, get his head and arm stuck in a triangle and tap like a bitch, and people will actually belive he almost won.

by Mitso on Oct 14, 2011 7:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Can you send some of the kush you’ve been smoking? I want some of that for sure.
Last time I checked Sonnen dropped Silva with a punch in that last fight.

by discoandherpes on Oct 14, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but you’re insane. Sonnen dominated every single aspect of that fight, standing, on the ground, activity, octogon control, except, you know, obviously, the most important aspect of the fight, which was the last 10 seconds where he was submitted.

by Shnak on Oct 14, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man I really did not know Silva fans were like this

I mean we know GSP and Penn fans can be quite hysterical but you Silva fans claiming Sonnen is not worthy shows you’re scared as shit. I don’t like Sonnen’s antics (Never was a WWF fan) but I don’t deny his ability in the cage. There is no other fight at MW currently for Silva and Sonnen is no doubt the guy who next deserves the shot and quite honetly I think he gets it done this time. No wonder you fanboys will make any excuse to avoid this fight. Pathetic!

by JudgeSmales on Oct 14, 2011 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

translation

silva only has 4 fights left and we don’t want him to get smashed for 5 rounds by cheal

by master splinter on Oct 14, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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