To remove Mike Goldberg from the UFC announcer team
by Sean Concannon on Jan 31, 2011 6:48 PM EST
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PrintIt has become clear to me over these recent months and years that Mike Goldberg is no longer an asset to the UFC announcer and analyst team. He is a good promotional man and has a great voice but he has increasingly delivered poor performances. His job is the Play-by-play announcer, this means that he is spouse to tell the viewers at home what is happening in the fight. His partner Joe Rogan's job is to be the color commentary, this means he contributes analysis, back round information, explanation of movies, etc. I have noticed that Joe Rogan has been playing both the color commentary and play-by-play roles. Mike Goldberg is not delivering on his end of the bargain. I have read comments and stories in this blog and others that have discussed Goldberg's weak commentary and overall lack of knowledge about MMA. The UFC has grown so large that Goldberg no longer a suitable commentator. When the UFC was smaller he was good but at this level he is not. This will be followed by a petition to remove Mike Goldberg.
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Sign me up. He is terrible. Watch the Beltran fight. He did not call on 4 of Beltrans flurries in a row and instead insisted on giving info on Barrys fight with Crocop. Joe had to interupt him and call it. Such BS. It happens all the time now.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 6:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I just read
I just read the Mike Goldberg: “You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn.” At the bottom of your thing. I never heard that but it is really funny.
by Sean Concannon on Jan 31, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks :P
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
THIS.....
Yeah, i just wanna give you some “back round” info here on this guys intelligence!! as opposed to background…bahahhaha
I like to Compare my Fighting Style to like, say a Honda Civic.....Im Not The Biggest, Fastest, Strongest Car on the Lot, but Im Efficient on Gas...-Nam Phan
by Curtis Wooden on Jan 31, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
(south park moment)
You see, i learned something today. We mma fans have it pretty damn good. Sure some of the best moments have passed us by, but many more are undeniably ahead of us. Criticism is a good thing; growth cant happen without it. But a blogger who criticizes Goldies fight knowledge and the management decisions of a multi billion dollar industry while mangling the language that his own blog is written in should take his own advice and leave the commentary to someone else.
by ODBasyoucansee on Feb 1, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh
He really is brutal. Not sure I’d go as far as starting a petition, though, as I will miss the ridiculously uncomfortable stares whenever he’s on camera and someone is responding to him lol. He seriously leans in and stares at Rogan(or whoever he’s interviewing)in a way so very intently that it makes me laugh so fucking hard. It looks BRUTALLY uncomfortable, hahaha.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
War Miller Bros.
by Jay Bittner on Jan 31, 2011 7:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I just want to hit him
I honestly look at Mike Goldberg and want to hit him in the face. Mostly at the end of The UFC Unleashed show. I think that is some of the draw of him, people want to hit him.
by Sean Concannon on Jan 31, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Unleashed
That’s a great example. He does it constantly on unleashed lol.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
War Miller Bros.
Goldberg does this hilarious thing before every main event
where him and Joe are discussing the fight (read: Joe is telling Goldberg what’s going to happen), and then they pan over so that it’s only Goldberg on screen and he delivers some cheesy line before they cut away to the hype video. Every single time Goldberg does this thing where he leans his head back at the beginning of the sentence and then midway through he lowers his voice and does the patented lean-in stare to the camera. Cracks me up.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
YES
He is worth it sometimes for the laughs involved. My buddy and I were dying laughing watching one of those recently. He did the uncomfortable lean in to Rogan while they were talking, then did what you described. It’s so great to watch. You can kind of hear the annoyance in some people when he does it.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
War Miller Bros.
If you notice he's usually sweaty too. Eww
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Goldberg is still far better than Mauro or Schiavello
The Rogan-Goldie combo is my personal favorite commentating team.
Militech as their 3rd man would be the only way I think they would reasonably improve it. Schiavello, Mauro, Gus Johnson, Shamrock, they all aren’t as good. Quadros isn’t bad either.
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 7:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Mauro is better than Goldie
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Jan 31, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
"They say someone is Adonis, but Bobby Lashley is THE Donis"
“Who wants a KO for Christmas!”
On Petruzelli KO-ing Kimbo “The biggest upset in MMA history!”
No he isn’t
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
The Kimbo KO thing was Gus Johnson.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
My apologies then.
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, both of them are bad
But Mauro is more knowledgeable.
Mauro’s problem is horrible pun and hyperbole.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Shiavello is the one who fires hyperbole and puns to no end. Mauro just does enough to make the commentating a little more fun, IMO.
We had a guy in Toronto commentating for the Raptors named Chuck Swirsky, and some people hated his over the top catch phrases. However, when he left for Chicago, the broadcasts have felt so lifeless.
I think Mauro is good for Strikeforce. Gotta take the little bit of bad with the good.
Do you really want somebody to compile the stupid shit Goldberg's said?
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by Neil Manich on Jan 31, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Goldie highlights
Random Quotes
Goldberg: “He’s unrelentless!”
Goldberg: “You know Roy Jones Jr. respects the hands of Forrest Griffin.”
Goldberg: “That eye is rocked!”
on Travis Lutter
Goldberg: “He’s like the Michael Jordan of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu!”
Rogan: “No he’s not”
Goldberg: “Exactly right, Joe!”
(sherdog forum)
Mike Goldberg: “Anderson Silva is back!”
Joe Rogan: “He didn’t go anywhere man.”
Mike Goldberg: “And here is Nakamura…entering the octagon for the 1st time…touching the fence for the first time.”
Joe Rogan:“[laughs] You running out things to say?”
Goldie: “thats some weird choke hes got there”
Rogan: “thats a rear naked choke”
Goldberg: “Kendall Grove has been questioned by his chin Joe.”
Goldberg: “The Lil Eagle soars again”
Rogan: "I think its “Lil Evil, Mike”
Goldberg: “Tito taking a book out of chuck’s chapter”
Goldberg:“Marcus has literally fallen in love with elbows”
Goldberg: “If Jardine’s last name were Johnson, the nickname Dean of Mean would make no sense.”
Goldberg: “His precision is very…well it’s very precise Joe.”
Goldie: “This is a way of life for Jon Fitch. If he’s not training he’s training and when he’s not training he trains some more”
Goldie: “He’s worked his guard tremendously, significantly with Jorge Gurgel.”
Goldie:“The one consistent thing about randy couture is that he’s always consistently a competitor”
I stopped because I got bored, but there is more.
Boys becoming men...Men becoming wolves
by spectaa on Jan 31, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 17 recs
If Frank Mir sees this picture
he is gonna be sooooooooooooo pissed.
"2 queens on casino night..... I'm gonna drop a deuce on everybody" - Michael Scott
by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I forgot the exact quote, but there’s one where Goldberg is wondering what language is being spoken, and then Rogan chimes in and says it’s Japanese, and then Rogan comments that Goldberg’s wife is indeed Japanese.
I won't jump off the bandwagon just because you lost.
As I recall
Goldie: A little Portuguesa!
Joe: That’s Japanese, brother.
Goldie: Ah.
Joe: Aren’t you the one married to a Japanese chick?
Goldie: That is correct.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 1, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I pee'd alittle.
Goldie: "thats some weird choke hes got there"
Rogan: "thats a rear naked choke"
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Mike is comedy gold, which is why I like him.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Feb 1, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mauro actually isn't terrible when paired with the right person
I really liked the dynamic Mauro and Bas had during their tenure in Pride
I agree with you for the most part.
I distinctly remember one of the later PRIDE events where Mauro was complaining about fighter inactivity while the dude in side control was actively kneeing the dude on bottom in the head. They did have a good back-and-forth though, in some part because they disagreed with each other rather than sycophantically saying “Exactly right, Joe!”
I’d prefer to have Quadros. Knowledgeable play by play without feeling the need to talk every damn second.
oh dear god.
It ain’t broke, guys. And the guy knows more about MMA than all the geniuses commenting here, guaranteed. Flaws, yes. But he’s likable personally — and that counts for a lot. As for wanting to hit him in the face? Hit yourself. It’s within reach and will do more good.
by Charlie Custer on Feb 1, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Goldberg is far better than Mauro or Schiavello?
At what? Yelling teep like it’s the only technique he knows (possibly because it is)? Talking in vague generalities? Ignoring action to talk about the only motorcycles fit to be in the Octagon, or how drinkable Bud Light is, or how BK is still letting you have it your way? Bringing up Chuck/Randy/TUF for no apparent reason?
Because if that’s what you meant then you’re right. But if you were trying to say he’s better at analyzing and commentating a mixed martial arts bout you have no idea what you’re talking about.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Uppercut from the Reem almost took out a low flying aircraft!"
“The UBERKNEE! IT’S GOODNIGHT IRENE!”
I can’t stand that stuff.
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
You keep pointing out the puns and catchphrases as evidence of why they’re terrible commentators when they’re still 100 times better at calling action than Goldberg, which is the key point. Can you think of a time Goldberg has contributed any sort of technical analysis to a broadcast in recent memory? I sure as hell can’t.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
You are saying he literally sits there and calls nothing but the plugs? That’s not true.
I’ll take him mostly calling teeps and leg kicks over Mauro and Schiavello’s annoying hyperbole all over the damn place getting in the way of the real commentating.
Goldberg does the bare minimum and he lets Rogan, who knows what the hell he is talking about, do most of the work, and that’s fine by me.
Schiavello and Mauro try to hard to always be talking.
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I have to question how much of Mauro you’ve really heard if your opinion is that he tries to be the star. Mauro is constantly asking Pat/Shamrock what they think as fighters, what they would do and how they would react in the scenarios that are playing out as well as accurately calling the play-by-play action himself. That’s what a commentator is supposed to be doing, not taking up space in the booth but contributing nothing (which you seem to think is a positive quality for Goldberg).
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
You are overplaying how little Goldberg does
He mostly plays the part of the question asker and set up guy for Rogan, who I would rather hear talking anyway…I like that.
I don’t like the things Mauro says, and Goldberg NOT saying those kinds of things more than makes up for his lack of action calling.
Mauro throws in too much hyperbole into his commentating for it to be worth anything ‘Cris Cyborg using those kicks to make her opponents leg a shade of purple like her purple belt in jiu jitsu’
Something like that was in Cyborg’s Coenen or Finney fight…if you are going to throw in crap like that into the action calling, I’d rather you not call it.
CPG
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by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
When your justification for someone being a good commentator is that they don’t call the action because they don’t know what’s going on, your standards might be a bit low.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Goldberg does call some
And of course, if he called more I’d like that.
Mauro and Schiavello do call more, but it comes with the horrible price of them shoving in their horrible attempts at wit…if it’s that or Goldie, I’ll take the lesser of two evils, and go with Goldie.
Goldie isn’t the blueprint for the greatest play by play commentator ever, but he’s a better jumping off point than Mauro and The Voice.
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ranallo's voice induces the urge to spinning backfist the midget in closest proximity to me.
His shrill, strident voice labouring on every excessively enunciated syllable while awkwardly competing with his booth mates for points of analysis is cringe-worthy.
This is also to say nothing of his almost petulant attitude when the spotlight is being taken away from him, or when another on the broadcast team disagrees with his assessment. Examples would be his incessant shrieking that K.J. Noons’ last strikes on George Jurgel were foul (they were, but that is beside the point), or worse, his idiotic behavior after the Strikeforce incident when he was nudging past Jake Shields, the fighter being interviewed, to speak his last piece.
Watching his show “the MMA Hour” on the Score (a Canadian sports network) is nearly unbearable.
by Disco-Platypus on Feb 1, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
His shrill, strident voice labouring on every excessively enunciated syllable while awkwardly competing with his booth mates for points of analysis is cringe-worthy.
I wonder if you meant for this sentence to be ironic, considering it is just as labored and cringe-worthy as the commentary you’re criticizing.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 1, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if you meant for yours to be ironic as well?
You know, considering it was nowhere near as witty and/or clever as you anticipated it to be.
Aside from all that, you seem to personalize this debate around commentators, Mauro.
by Disco-Platypus on Feb 1, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions
lawl
Quit coppin’ my style b.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 1, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Also, your definition of irony is off.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 1, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was only shrieking about the illegal knee because it was so obvious to everyone except Frank Shamrock that it was, in fact, an illegal knee.
Shamrock just kept arguing that it was legal when the world could tell that it wasn’t. Mauro was just incredulous.
Schaivello is a student of the game.
He’s a true historian of combat sports, be it MMA, kickboxing, Judo, contact karate, taekwondo… everything. Read his blogs.
http://www.hd.net/blogs/2011/01/andy-sadly-the-life-death-of-a-modern-day-samurai-michael-schiavello/
http://www.hd.net/blogs/2010/12/deliciously-vocal-by-michael-schiavello/
He knows what he’s talking about. He studies. He calls things by their proper name. He does in depth interviews with MMA personalities and actually gets great info out of them. Goldberg can be replaced by the text-to-voice function on a netbook running through the online schedule of Spike TV.
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-Randall Munroe
I'll agree with you there
But once he gets on air, he falls in love with his own schtick. I can’t decide which I’m more sick of, “IT IS ALLLLL OVERRRR!!” or “THE BIIIG KABOSH!! IT’S GOODNOYYGHT OYYYREEEAAANE.”
One of Goldie’s jobs is a sort of unofficial duty, which is to dumb everything down for any new, causal fans who are tuning into the UFC for the first time, so they get a decent understanding of what’s going on. I think it’s the way he does it that rubs people who know what IS going on the wrong way. He asks Joe these really obvious question, and Joe gives an obvious answer, as best he can and as dumbed down as he can. If that makes any sense.
While Joe gives good commentary on what’s going on when two fighters reach the mat, It’s hard to understand what’s going on and what Joe is trying to get at, if you are a casual fan watching for the first time. Goldberg comes in when he realizes Joe isn’t “catering” to the casual fans, by asking a really simple question that makes Joe come up with an easier explanation of what is taking place.
I’ve entertained many casual fans at viewing parties with friends where the newer viewers get distracted by SF’s commentary because of 3 people talking at the same time, without explaining any of the action in simple, layman’s terms, where during a UFC fight, those same fans found Goldie’s question’s and Joe’s explanation of the action quite refreshing and rather informative. Out of all the casual fans I’ve hosted, I’d say 1/3rd of them have turned into more moderate MMA fans. I don’t think SF’s confusing commentary had much to do with that as much as seeing Goldie ask these “dumb” (other people’s description, not mine) questions and Joe’s ability to explain it in the most simple of ways.
by Unquestioned Answers on Jan 31, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Both are better than Goldie.
Goldie never even describes the action. Schiavello and Mauro both go into so much more detail.
by Cunny on Jan 31, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe because they're true fans?
You ever hear Goldy say anything about anyone outside the UFC? Never. Not on Twitter, not on ppvs, not anytime. And if he does it’s because Joe brought a name up which Goldie will repeat and straight up mispronounce the name. Goldy = the male version of Arianny. All she knows and follows is UFC but says she loves the sport.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Shiavello, Mauro, and Shamrock are all much better
And Gus is on par.
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by Neil Manich on Jan 31, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's harsh on Goldie, don't you think?
Gus is a drooling cretin who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow.
Much like Spike TV and TUF, Goldberg is no longer needed for the UFC to succeed.
The organization has outgrown all three of these things.
Jon Anik for pbp?
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
While Anik would be good as play by play
I still think they need Joe at PbP and someone like a Miletich at analysis. keep Goldie but as a hype man and product placer.
"i don't believe in isms i just believe in me" - Ferris
by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 1, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Replacement?
Who should replace Goldberg?
I was watching the Strike Force event this weekend and the dude the had was amazing. I don’t know who was but he was awesome.
I'm guessing Pat Miletich
Was it the guy speaking matter-of-factly about technique while the other two screamed about inane shit?
"We all think we're the best. That's why we're fighters." - Frankie Edgar
Miletich is really good. The thing that was very informative to me was during the Jacare vs Lawler fight. Miletich was asked why Jacare puts his head to the center of his opponents while going for a takedown instead of having his head more towards the side. Miletich then explained that Jacare can more easily put his arms around his opponent and clasps his hands better. It’s something that’s really small and minute, but I thought that was extremely informative nonetheless.
I won't jump off the bandwagon just because you lost.
This post is very oddly timed.
Every time that I listen to a Strikeforce broadcast, I am so thankful for Joe and Goldie.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 31, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
You and me both
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by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
I like Rogan, but Goldberg contributes less than nothing and acts as little more than a distraction.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Joe
Joe had improved a lot in the last few years. He is one of the faces of the UFC and he has been doing so well because he is doing Goldie’s job.
Mauro and Schiavello's voices are some of the most annoying sounds my ears have ever processed
Like when I hear Lil Wayne’s horrendous voice on the radio.
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
You can't be serious?
You know how many people set up these retarded ass petition’s to get Goldie sacked from his commentary duties? Every month there’s at least one or two. This goes back to about the time TUF blew up and since then, every new fan, post TUF/Dark Ages UFC with zero understanding to what actually goes into being a PBP announcer, comes out with a hair up their butt, claiming how Goldie is offensive and drags down their evening with his horrendous hyperbole. As dumb as it sounds, that old saying “it could be worse” fits this situation very well.
But that’s besides the point. Any douchebag can come out and say, “Oh I could do Goldie’s job better”. Really? First, how would you know this? Have you ever done commentary in any way, in front of over a million people? No? Why not? How would you know you could do better if you’ve never attempted to do so before? Our sport is filled with anonymous keyboard warriors who think they know everything about MMA, through and through, all because they’ve lived the MMA life, vicariously, from all the time spent watching live events and clips of older shows they might have missed being a new fan, Post-TUF, there is a lot of histoy people have missed out on that Goldie was a part of.
I appreciate all the time spent by Goldie in the UFC. I’ll be the first to admit he’s done a below average job this past year. But he’s called some of the greatest matches in MMA history, many of them happening before the ultimate fighter. He was far and way much better when he first started. But because he’s not what most of you expect he should be, or because he doesn’t live up to your standards of how an MMA PBP/Commentator should be, or even worse, he doesn’t do as good a job as you would do it, you think he shoud be canned? Opinions. Yeah, we all got em. Skills. Very few have them.
by Unquestioned Answers on Jan 31, 2011 8:36 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
What up Goldie.
You seem so much more chill on TV. Take a hit with Joe and mellow out.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
As was your rant.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Acting like a smart ass/hard ass over the internet.
How’s that working out for you. I’ll never meet you in real life, you are aware of this, is this reason you act like a dick behind your computer screen?
by Unquestioned Answers on Jan 31, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like a question that could easily be redirected at yourself.
I haven’t said anything particularly dickish to you. Relax.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Dickish, no. Maybe that was uncalled for,
but so was your smart ass remark comparing me to Goldie. It’s all good, I’ll go back to doing what I was doing, You’ll go back to being a smart ass with an internet connection and a vague understanding of just how hard it is to get in front of millions of fans and call fights for the largest MMA organization.
by Unquestioned Answers on Jan 31, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't compare you to Goldie.
You’re supposed to do that shit. Somebody goes against the grain, you accuse the person of being the party they’re defending.
Hold the fuck up. We are "Supposed to do that shit"?
Really? That’s in the rulebook or something? Was it in the owners manual when you get the internet? Where does it say we are “supposed” to act like a moron whenever there is dissenting opinion?
That’s what’s wrong with forums. Everyone thinks it’s their job to act uncivilized on the internet, solely because everything is supposed to anonymous. It’s commonplace to hide behind a screen name and act out differently than you would in your own home. And this makes what kind of sense. Try this instead. Stop acting like you have no intelligence. When you see something you don’t agree with, say so, but do it an a manner that doesn’t make you seem like a bitter pillow biter.
Proof that this is the current state of commentary on internet forums is the response I’ll get, the flak that’ll be thrown my way for calling you a dick, for no apparent reason (to some). With little attention to the point’s both you and I have made. Just because two guys on the internet see things differnt doesn’t mean they are dicks in real life. It’s just perceived that way. Perpetuated by idiotic exchanges like this one.
by Unquestioned Answers on Jan 31, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, seriously.
This is getting kind of sad. He was making an offhand joke. Calm down.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Dude you pissed off Mike Goldberg. Awesome.
'cause the heart that betrays itself willingly, Is like a nation that trades freedom for stability, its so seductive to be cold and corrupted and isolated and try to be an independent republic, But liberty to be loved on the surface is worthless, The sacrifice of revolution with no purpose
by ImmortalTechnique92 on Jan 31, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
That's me brah
actin’ like a hard ass on the interweb.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
You know,
He made some nice points in defense of Goldberg, and since you had nothing in response, you chose to imply that he was merely biased, or had some kind of crush on the guy, or was — in fact — Goldy himself. He’s right. It’s just too easy to be flip on the internet. Many people seem to have tossed authentic thought and feeling aside in a sometimes sophomoric, sometimes clever game of one-upmanship. It’s frustrating, and I think he was feeling it right there. But I give him props for his original point of view on the subject. It’s all well said. Those other guys (Maura, Schiavello) have their strengths, but clearly so does Mike Goldberg. And I like that he’s a quintessential good guy, which unfortunately is the the main reason he takes such abuse.
by Charlie Custer on Feb 1, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
im in agreement with this post.
Just cause someone makes one hundred percent in an opposing view doesn’t mean you have to snuff it out with an overused and stale internet joke. Man up and debate…or woman up. Either way…up.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Feb 1, 2011 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
damnit
Makes one hundred percent sense.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Feb 1, 2011 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure it is difficult.
That is irrelevant though, as other commentators are better at his job than he is, which is what I’ve been driving at this whole time.
We’re both smart asses with an internet connection. You just happen to be in denial.
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
"as other commentators are better at his job than he is, which is what I've been driving at this whole time."
That’s an opinion. A subjective opinion. You say there are better commentators, I’m not denying that. What I’m saying it that Goldie has a job to do, and he does it well. If you’ve followed his career, (anyone who followed the UFC before and during the dark ages would understand this) you’ll see his main role other than to push the UFC and it’s sponsers, is to ask the “dumb” questions and Joe answers them in the simpliest form possible. If you realize it or not, hardcore fans (I hate that characterization) are not the only people watching the UFC. They have to cater to the casual fans more than anything and that means that someone has to explain, on a consistant basis, all the action taking place in the Octagon. Anyone else you know of doing a better job at keeping the casual fan base on lock?
by Unquestioned Answers on Jan 31, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm throwing in with the new guy on this one...
Goldie has so much more to do during a broadcast, other than call the fight. He and Rogan both run interviews, set up and come back from pretaped clips, and fill when fights end early, or unscene issues arise.
He’s not perfect, but I don’t understand the vitriol from the hard core members of the community.
I know it frustrates some of us that they seem to show bias during a fight, but they aren’t influencing the judges…just the audience, which either knows better already, or will question what they hear on forums like BE or more experienced people in the room with them during the PPV.
FWIW, I enjoy Schiavello too, but perhaps I like outsized personalities, particularly when I’m watching mma from Japan at 2 am, alone in an otherwise sleeping house.
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by Snatchl on Jan 31, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks man,
but I’m not really new here. I just got burnt out on this exact scenario being played out over and over again, no matter where you go on the internet. Everyone has to be clever, or original, which ends up no one is being original or clever. It got old real fast. Things haven’t changed one bit, so it seems.
by Unquestioned Answers on Feb 2, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Goldie's job description has also changed with the sport
of course he started out letting the viewer know what is going on in the octagon, but since the sport and the UFC brand has come along so far, certain changes NEED to happen. its called business people, yes Goldie slips on calling the action in the fight, you know what Mr.Clean thinks about that, he fucking loves it, LOVES it when his sports casters are giving its sponsors air time.
dana-“Goldie, make sure you slip in the new predators movie every chance you get, really push it”
Golide-“i want a bonus if I hit 50 times”
dana-“DONE”
who cares what he says, does he keep the sponsors happy? YES does he give sponsors as much air time as he can so our beloved sport can be broadcast on the grandest stage possible? YES
you criticize the man for doing what he is told, yet who would you replace him with? someone who wants to do what they want, or worse yet, what the fans want?
remember Goldie:
HAAAATTERRRS GOOOONNNNNNAA HHAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!
ufc fan boy all the way
by georgehouse on Jan 31, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Dude Mike
Calm down
'cause the heart that betrays itself willingly, Is like a nation that trades freedom for stability, its so seductive to be cold and corrupted and isolated and try to be an independent republic, But liberty to be loved on the surface is worthless, The sacrifice of revolution with no purpose
by ImmortalTechnique92 on Jan 31, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yea that has to be the most unfunny joke on the internet. It sucks that someone has to do it everytime a spirited debate takes place. You are NOT clever, or original my friend!
by MRR1 on Feb 1, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What I’m saying it that Goldie has a job to do, and he does it well.
but the point is that he doesn’t commentate on the action very well. He’s been in the game for what, 8-9 years, and still hasn’t boned up on technique being displayed…he leaves that to Rogan. So what we have are 2 color commentators. I have to give credit to Rogan for learning about technique & even getting training in certain disciplines so that he can identify what’s happening.
Goldie is a pitch-man pure & simple. He doesn’t help the new UFC fan understand what’s happening & irritates the ‘hardcore’ fans.
I do applaud him for not taking the WWE contract because he wanted to do ‘real’ sports, and I’m not going to campaign for someone to lose their job. But the UFC crew does need to add someone with fighting experience to give a different angle than Rogan & cover up for Goldie when he gets sidetracked by advertising.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
But he’s called some of the greatest matches in MMA history, many of them happening before the ultimate fighter.
Does Goldy have any memorable moments or calls? No, he does the exact same thing every ppv. He is a robot.
And here we…GO!
And it is ALLLLLLL OVER!
Everything else is virtually identical.
Right, Joe?
Robotic in his commentary, is Mike Goldberg.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
How could I?!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I've been watching early(ish) UFCs again lately.
36 and 37.5 in the past few days. Goldy was the same back then. The only difference I noticed is that Rogan fills in the blank spots better than the old guys and has expanded his role well as he learned what it really entailed.
And no, I can’t think of any memorable Goldy calls beyond Lil’ Eagle and the like. Can somebody suggest a card for me to watch where Goldberg does a good job? Serious suggestion, I will watch it and get back to you with my earnest thoughts.
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I very much so prefer Renallo over anyone right now.
Mauro knows his stuff and does his job which is called PBP. Goldie does PBP for about 20% of each fight he calls. This is just unacceptable. I can tolerate Rogan even though he is biased most times because the poor guy is doing two jobs at once.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The KO for Christmas!
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by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/72330-hilarious-mike-goldberg-quotes.html
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
I love making fun of Goldie to
But Mauro seems to say stupid sh!t on purpose
CPG
Alistair Overeem - StrikeForce HeavyWeight Champion, K-1 2010 World Grand Prix Champion, DREAM Interim HeavyWeight Champion
by Chris Groves on Jan 31, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Some of you in the L.A. area
will know what i’m talking about. Chick Hern was the best play by play anouncer in basketball ever. Many people in L.A. would turn down the tv broadcast and listen to the radio while Chick Hern would call the game. It was perfect pbp. You didn’t need the tv because he knew what he was talking about. You should be able to only listen to Goldberg and know whats going on. That is not the case.
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller
Goldie is just there to plug the sponsors
They need to add a third man to do play by play so all Goldberg has to do is occasionally chime in with a few words about Spike TV’s latest show.
I vote for...
Don Frye!!!
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by Jay Bittner on Jan 31, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You guys F***ing clowns!
Goldberg’s commenting is better than anything you find on Hdnet or Strikeforce! They sound like they’re calling an over the top WWE match. Bunch of clowns.( With the exception of Bas Rutten) I’d take Goldie over any one on those other shows! All you haters can bury your chins in my guard!!!
by Monz on Jan 31, 2011 9:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Goldie sounds like a WWE commentator
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Jan 31, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 31, 2011 10:25 PM EST reply actions
Damn them for not going through with it!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 31, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
If so the UFC should poach JR.
BAH GAWD JOE IT LOOKS LIKE BROCKS GOING FOR A TAKEDOWN
I know less about recognizing true fighting talent than George W. Bush does about finding weapons of mass destruction. From now on if I wanna pick a winner I will ask the-gentle-way.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 31, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I say The Voice or Bas!!!!
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by DK_Monster on Jan 31, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Eh
I’m not in the business of asking folks lose their job nor do I think he’s unbearable. He’s no different than your big time play by play guys in any sport. I know he was color but TONS of people thought Joe Morgan should have been fired years ago and the (mis)information he constantly gave was WAY more egregious than what Goldy does.
Want another example? Folks have been all over Jim Lampley for years. Watch an Oscar De La Hoya fight and you’ll see some of the best examples and way worse than what happened in Beltran-Barry.
Goldberg says some wacky stuff from time to time but more often than not I just find it entertaining. I don’t need him to tell me what’s going on during a fight.
Goldy will be on Inside MMA this Friday.
I’m really interested to hear what he has to say on things not related to UFC. Or if he’ll just give a blank stare and say pass.
I remember Varner being such a Zuffa schill when he was on there and look where that got him.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
"Well I'm looking forward to Silva's fight this weekend, PRELIMS LIVE ON SPIKE"
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
by SSreporters on Jan 31, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
Can totally see him plugging it too. More than once.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 1, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
I’m a little confused by what you guys expect. You know the only reason he would go on the show is to promote a UFC event? They aren’t bringing him on there to talk about the SF tournament. WHy would he discuss anything but UFC shit, when thats who he works for and thats who sent him on the show… to promote their shit.
That like saying ‘Steves going to walk outside in the rain!’ , ‘OMG, how much you wanna bet his hair gets all wet’, ‘Man you are so right, i bet his shoes do too!’, ‘That would be hilarious!’, ‘totally’!
They’re going to cover non UFC topics like they always do. Like the Strikeforce results. They usually get the guests feedback. All I was getting at.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 1, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
thank you
.. but before he goes i would just like to hear him say " Bj Penn uses his legs like arms"..just one more time for the road
i nominate chael sonnen
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by Body Triangle on Feb 1, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think this thread needs pdl and me to bring back our "Goldie and Rogan commentate on sex" routine.
SO EXPLOSIVE, JOE!
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
I like Goldie, mostly.
Some of his off the cuff stuff is just flat out stupid, but you can’t tell me it’s not funny. I think with anyone else he’d be awful but I still like Rogan and Goldie as a team. Honestly, the thing that has been bringing Goldie down lately is all of the product sales pitches he does mid round, and that’s not his call. The UFC needs to scale all that back. I get that it’s a great revenue stream, but guys will literally be getting knocked out and we’re listening to the promo for some movie I’ll never see.
I’m not that fond of any of the play by play guys in the sport, really. Mauro and the Strikeforce guys are just unbearable to me, and while I like The Voice it’s hard to take him seriously. Honestly I think Bellator’s play by play guy is probably my favorite.
Goldie is one small step down from Lon McHeron
He brings absolutely nothing to the broadcast other than ignorance and awkwardness.
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by GDPofBLC on Feb 1, 2011 1:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Lon McHeron, Seriously?
One small step down, huh? Get the fuck out of here.
Goldie only brings ignorance and awkwardness, where as you bring what again? Oh thats right, you don’t do commentary for the UFC, you do it for your feeble minded brain. If you’re feeling awkard while watching Goldie do PBP, I doubt it’s Mike making you awkard, it’s probably those feeling you’ve kept hidden deep within your mind. You know that thing you did when you were young? It’s ok, We forgive. Jerk-off. And Seriously. Lon McHeron? I’ll remember that one. I actually hope the UFC hires Lon, just for you. We can blame you when they do.
by Unquestioned Answers on Feb 4, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
"That was kick was so powerful, you could hear it!"
I hate that Goldberg line & he uses it all the damn time…like there are silent kicks or punches.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
I hope he is replaced by Randy
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Goldie, Mauro, and “the voice” all like the sound of their own voices a lil too much but Goldie takes the prize for most inane. They’re not going to fire him so the obvoius solution is to get a guy like Quadros for play by play so Goldie doesn’t feel like he always has to be saying something. Now that Budlight is using his catchphrase I’m fearful might be even more aggressive with his mindless proclamations.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 1, 2011 1:32 PM EST reply actions
My take:
1. Goldie hasn’t changed (much). I think we’ve outgrown him. He IS good for the new fan, though.
2. I do hate how he exaggerates fighter staredowns as “hate” or “heat” or “don’t like each other”. 90% of the time, he’s completely wrong.
3. One time during a Spike show, the sound dropped for a good 3 minutes. Me being the life of the party (wannabe), I tried doing the “filler talk” for my less-than-amused wife. Massive failure. His job ain’t easy. And neither was sleeping on the couch.
Dude, how did filling in on commentary end with you sleeping on the couch?
That hardly even seems possible, the very concept of such causation is fascinating.
I used to be a Goldie hater...
then I realized how he really is good at what he does, it is hard to plug all the products like the latest video game/movie they are pushing over and over again and stay enthusiastic. He is like the grease that keeps the UFCs gears working.
Also, he seems to have a better understanding of the sport than most people gave him credit for, how could you not when you have been in the middle of it for so many years?
by Bandaka on Feb 1, 2011 2:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Goldie isn't perfect
But I’d be lying if I said I didn’t still enjoy the “it’s all over” bit.
I have only one point to make: Bas Rutten for the win.
And the only thing better than Bas as the commentator is Bas Rutten commenting on himself on his career dvd.
My favorite comment from from his career dvd is:
Bas Rutten on Bas Rutten “That is the liver shot that finished the fight and broke his liver”
I love that some of you dummies
Complain about Goldberg talking about Bud Light or Harley Davidson like he’s consciously making the decision to skip talking about the fight and not being told by the producer to read the advertisement as part of the agreement that they have with the sponsors.
It wouldn’t matter if it was Goldberg, Schiavello, Ranallo or John Madden, they’d still end up doing those cornball live reads .
by hoohoofred on Feb 1, 2011 3:34 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Wait
Joe Rogan analyzes movies?
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by Damon O. on Feb 1, 2011 4:39 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I have said, many times...
… that the UFC is leaving money on the table by not offering a PPV channel with Goldberg’s mike feed disabled for an extra $5. I’d be all over it.
by loydb on Feb 1, 2011 7:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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