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Harris Interactive Ignores MMA, but That's Not So Bad

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There was recently quite a bit of hand-wringing over a Harris Interactive poll that tried to measure which sport did Americans identify as their favorite.

While it's obvious MMA deserves to be at least measured alongside other sports, I'm not necessarily crowing about its lack of inclusion. MMA's numbers that underscore or prove its popularity aren't those that measure it against other sports, especially in terms that marginalize a niche sport by narrowing choices.

The survey doesn't ask us to list our favorite sports or which sport we prefer in certain circumstances. It asks us to identify a singular favorite. Given that MMA is only truly popular when a confluence of factors act together to draw in huge swathes of an otherwise casual base, how many people actually identify MMA as their first love? Asked another way, how many hardcore fans are there? Or, even among hardcore MMA fans, how many prefer MMA as their top sport? Relative to the 31% who chose football as their top sport, it's a less than negligible number.

Second, this poll isn't really reflective of other data that demonstrate how enormous the sport can be at times. Consider tennis. The sport has a huge participatory rate between both genders among non-professionals, is highly international, has a long history as a spectator sport, notable television deals, recognizable stars, blue chip sponsors (Wimbledon's recent replays were sponsored by Rolex) and every other conceivable measurement to reflect its size. Yet, among respondents, only 1% said men's tennis was their favorite and 3% chose women's tennis as their top choice.

There are ways to prove just how viable MMA is, of course. The UFC's run in pay-per-view is literally unmatched. Television ratings routinely do well or even beat other traditional sports including sports named in the Harris Interactive poll. Fan attendance, icon awareness, online participation and general pop culture influence all attest to MMA being a niche sport capable of mainstream awareness or appreciation. There is a different, but equally valuable balance of goods that demonstrate the size and popularity of mixed martial arts.

And MMA fans should take steps to make sure MMA is on the sporting radar of fans, executives, researchers or other interested parties. As I stated earlier, MMA deserves to at least be measured. The abbreviations MMA and UFC should be part of every sports fan's lexicon.

But MMA does not always look quite so pretty when we're defining its place by sports fans' enthusiasm. In a different world or a future era, things might change. Perhaps the UFC or Strikeforce can grow to be much larger. But for now, that is simply a fight MMA cannot win nor look good losing.

UPDATE: Here's me last night on with Bill Rohland and Danny Rouhier discussing this very topic.

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It’s kind of hard for me to choose a favorite between NFL and mma since they really don’t compete for my attention. They’re rarely on at the same time, if ever. I might be more inclined to choose NFL though if pushed because of the ease of switching between NBC, CBS, FOX instead of having to purchase a majority of mma fights.

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by merryprankster on Jan 28, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

However

I do find myself watching old fights on Spike or youtube all the time, even if I already saw them. I never re-watch a football game.

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by merryprankster on Jan 28, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear you on this one, but since mma is primarly on the weekends, at night, I watch it way more than anything else.

I get up at 5 am, EST, so I haven’t seen a full Monday Night Football game since college.

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by Snatchl on Jan 28, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

we gotta remember this sport is insanely young

and when was the last time a sport broke through into the mainstream from being a niche?

i mean its gonna take time, look at whats been accomplished in 5 years. in another 5 years it’ll be insane to see where the sports at

plus football is my first love, i woulda had to have voted for it.

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by milk72 on Jan 28, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

MMA is my fav by far,

but it would probably get 1-3% at best in a poll like this.

UFC Win Finish % (Top 15 & 6 UFC wins): Belfort 100, N. Diaz 100, Penn 92, Florian 91, Velasquez 86, Belcher 86, A. Silva 83, JDS 83, Mir 83, T. Silva 83, Franklin 77, Kongo 75, Hughes 72, Sotiropoulos 71, Alves 70, Couture 69, Marquardt 67, Lytle 67, Maia 63, Koscheck 62, Bisping 60, Rivera 57, Rampage 50, Kampmann 50, J. Miller 50, GSP 47, Sanchez 45, Okami 40, Evans 40, F. Griffin 38, Machida 38, Fitch 31, Sherk 25, Edgar 25, Maynard 13

by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 28, 2011 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

I mean, bowling got 2%, and women’s college basketball got 1%.

UFC Win Finish % (Top 15 & 6 UFC wins): Belfort 100, N. Diaz 100, Penn 92, Florian 91, Velasquez 86, Belcher 86, A. Silva 83, JDS 83, Mir 83, T. Silva 83, Franklin 77, Kongo 75, Hughes 72, Sotiropoulos 71, Alves 70, Couture 69, Marquardt 67, Lytle 67, Maia 63, Koscheck 62, Bisping 60, Rivera 57, Rampage 50, Kampmann 50, J. Miller 50, GSP 47, Sanchez 45, Okami 40, Evans 40, F. Griffin 38, Machida 38, Fitch 31, Sherk 25, Edgar 25, Maynard 13

by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 28, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people could have interpreted it as their favorite sports to play…

by truck on Jan 28, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet, among respondents, only 1% said men’s tennis was their favorite and 3% chose women’s tennis as their top choice.

This is a valid point. I will drag my ass out of bed to watch tennis in the crazy early AM for stuff like Aussie Open matches. Does that mean I would vote for it over MMA, football, baseball or boxing? No, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have my attention. And that’s the same for most people I know who watch MMA.

Most of them would say football or baseball, a few would say boxing, some would say basketball. But they still follow, order and give attention to MMA. What your “favorite sport” is matters far less than an overall “which sports do you care about.?”

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

All I watch is MMA, no other sports…. anyone else like that?

by Nick Thomas on Jan 28, 2011 4:16 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

In the last month I have devoted multiple hours of my time to watching NBA games, NCAA men’s basketball games, NFL games, NCAA football games, tennis, boxing and golf. Once the MLB season starts that would go on that list as well.

I’m well rounded

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a ton of TV

You must:

A.) be single

or

B.) possess serious pimp hand

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by Snatchl on Jan 28, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

multiple TV’s and a wife that tends to go to bed early…

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Same for me

If you take out all NCAA and plug in every Barcelona game and a few hockey games here and there.

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by Neil Manich on Jan 28, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I work at UNC

So the whole town goes pretty crazy about basketball, and the boss takes our lab out to a bar during the NCAA tournament. Other than that one day a year, the only sport I ever watch is MMA.

When I was a kid I watched LA Kings hockey with The Great One (and McSorely, fiiiights) but that’s it.

by hardlyworking on Jan 28, 2011 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m the same way. I’ll occasionally feel passing interest in a particular team or a particular athlete but MMA is the only sport qua sport that I’d spend time reading about regularly.

by TheWillows on Jan 28, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I watch MMA and NFL religiously...

I watch hockey here and there, although I watch almost every game during the playoffs.

Basketball I watch here and there. I might watch golf if it is on and I am bored as shit, same for tennis, but I will be online browsing the whole time.

I might watch a bit of soccer here and there. Baseball is one of the worst inventions ever, fun to play, but you can’t make me watch it. Baseball is terrible!! Oh and by the way, baseball sucks.

by truck on Jan 28, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

The moment I saw Matt Hughes slam Frank Trigg, I ceased watching all other sports altogether. Literally, overnight. I used to watch Hockey regularly and some Football and Basketball. MMA is my one and only true love.

by pud333 on Jan 28, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

How many choices would there be?

Just MMA
MMA, hockey
MMA, football
MMA, hockey, football
MMA, soccer
MMA, soccer, hockey
MMA, soccer, football
MMA, soccer, hockey, football
MMA, basketball
MMA, basketball, hockey
MMA, basketball, football
MMA, basketball, soccer
MMA, basketball, hockey, football
MMA, basketball, hockey, soccer
MMA, basketball, football, soccer
MMA, basketball, hockey, football, soccer
MMA, baseball
MMA, baseball, hockey
MMA, baseball, football
MMA, baseball, soccer
MMA, baseball, basketball
MMA, baseball, hockey, football
MMA, baseball, hockey, soccer
MMA, baseball, hockey, basketball
MMA, baseball, football, soccer
MMA, baseball, football, basketball
MMA, baseball, soccer, basketball
…and so on and so on…

by truck on Jan 28, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe more like:

a) Only watch MMA
b) Regularly watch MMA and at least one or all of the following: Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey.

I just want to know what % of people here only watch MMA and nothing else.

by pud333 on Jan 28, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm getting there

I used to be the biggest sports fan in the world. But as I get older, I don’t give a damn about any of them, other than the NFL (my interest is slowly fading) and MMA (my interest is rising on a daily basis).

So, I’m not that way, but it wouldn’t surprise me if I get there.

by Rich Hansen on Jan 28, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I only follow MMA & occasionally other combat sports.

I like watching many other sports (esp. tennis, hockey, rugby & soccer), but I don’t care enough to want to learn anything about them.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 28, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

I will come across as an even more arrogant prick but i consider people like us ‘true’ mma fans in that I have no (zero, nil) interest in any other sports. As a kiwi Rugby is a sport I know and when in NZ am pretty much forced to follow, but I care little for it. Tennis and Formula 1 are pretty cool. But I only follow MMA. Furthermore it is still quite weird for me to think of MMA as a sport. It’s a fight. An article like this goes a long way to explain why I am often at odds with fellow commentators. A lot of you guys are twenty something, live in North America and while watching MMA you also follow American Football and Baseball and Basketball. We do not view MMA in the same way, I don’t think. No hating only an observation, mostly for my own benefit. Thanks therapist.

by jwalker on Jan 29, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Poll: 3-time Canadian Gimmick Athlete of the Year

Dana White buys polling awards when he needs them.

by bjpurity on Jan 28, 2011 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

only mma

For me too. Everything else is just fodder.

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by Submit24 on Jan 28, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

MMA is my favorite by far and I dont even watch any stick/ball sports. I just watch combat sports.

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by Tokyo Sandblaster on Jan 28, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Same for me, combat sports only. Well I watch the world cup and the champions league when my teams are playing. But that’s pretty rare events.

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by spectaa on Jan 28, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I"m pretty strictly an MMA fan

but holy crap, do I feel the “niche” aspect of our sport. Case in point- As a late birthday present, my wife let me drag her to the pub to watch UFC: GSP Vs. Hardy.

It was a great card and the entire bar was loud and loving the action. Meanwhile, my wife (dead sober BTW) fell ASLEEP at our table. Later, she said MMA was too boring for her and she watched a KC Royals game instead. Because baseball is way more exciting than MMA.

Anyways, we’re getting some counselling on this now.

by Ziggy325 on Jan 28, 2011 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

I will hit you!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought pertaining to the popularity of MMA. If the UFC decided to put Anderson vs GSP and Lesnar vs whoever on ESPN (ignoring the likely case of ESPN wanting to produce and the UFC not wanting to give that up), would it be worth the financial hit of not being on PPV for increased mainstream popularity in the long run?

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by ChiCubs23 on Jan 28, 2011 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

I think the biggest mistake we can make is pushing too hard in these kinds of realms. There is a wave of people brought up on boxing that will never give our sport the time of day. Luckily, they’re dying, every day. Over the next decade, I think we’ll see the needle slowly but steadily moving in the right direction.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 28, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

I think you're right on here.

MMA won’t eclipse the NFL in America, but it will continue to grow world wide.

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin

by Snatchl on Jan 28, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really think boxing fans going away changes anything.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Old, crotchety boxing fans – they’re probably MMA’s biggest detractors.

Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 28, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

And you think that actually has any legitimate impact on people who watch MMA?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

They are disproportionately represented in the media. If everyone covering boxing other than Bert Sugar was hit by a meteor tomorrow, I wouldn’t shed a tear.

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Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 28, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I just like sports

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by Neil Manich on Jan 28, 2011 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Last fall Esquire magazine ran a survey directed at 20 year old and 50 year old men. The goal was to determine how their attitudes towards sports, politics, etc. differed. Here is the question on sports:

11. What’s your favorite spectator sport?
Baseball 15% 20%

Football 33% 57%

Golf 4% 5%

Basketball 22% 11%

Ultimate Fighting 26% 7%

The percentage on the indicates what proportion of the 20 year olds chose that particular answer, while the number on the right is for the 50 year olds.

Here is their methodology:

“20/50: The Esquire Survey of American Men” was conducted exclusively for Esquire by Beta Research Corporation, an independent firm located in Syosset, New York. The six hundred respondents were randomly selected from a pool of Internet-connected adults and results were weighted to reflect a national sample of American men aged fifty and twenty. Margin of error on totals is +/ — 4 percent at the 95 percent level of confidence, and for a sample size of three hundred it is +/ — 6 percent at the 95 percent level of confidence. The respondents completed the online survey between June 21 and June 30, 2010. Because of rounding, some percentages may not add up to 100.

http://www.esquire.com/features/facts-about-men-1010

by zorba on Jan 28, 2011 4:49 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I remember reading that

Good to be reminded of it in this context. Thanks for posting it.

by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Jan 28, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

MMA is my #1

but I live in Cleveland Ohio and my teams consistently suck in Football, Baseball, and Basketball (lately…LBJ sigh) so I might not be comparable to people who can actually sit through their teams performances in those sports.
I’d rather watch a BJJ tourney over Baseball anyday, it’s not as boring, and hard tackles in Football just don’t do it for me like a flush combination or headkick out of no where

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by Pillow Pants on Jan 28, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

I guess it is hard for me

to say that MMA is my favorite sport over baseball and football. Well I might say I enjoy it more than football, but definitely not baseball. For me it comes down to two factors that will change in our culture as time goes on. First, I grew up playing baseball and i know the game inside and out, and it holds a special place in my heart. Obviously some people have grown up doing some form of martial arts and have turned it in to a career, but it is only the current generation of kids that can really grow up and train in MMA. As the next generation of kids grow up it will be the same for them, and so on and so on. As time keeps going and children are exposed to the sport at an earlier age they will start looking up to whoever is the GSP or Anderson Silva of the sport at that time, like I looked up to Ken Griffey Jr. growing up.

That brings me to my second point of why I just can’t place MMA over baseball quite yet… history. I am a huge MMA fan and have followed it’s history pretty closely. The thing is, MMA itself only goes back to 1993. and it can be argued that in its current form it came around a few years after that. Yes we have always had fights as long as humans have been around and the martial arts are thousands of years old but that isn’t MMA. To me, baseball is magical. The place it held in American culture for so many years is astonishing and has helped it develop quite the history that contains a lot of near mythical heroes. I hear about Babe Ruth and just how good Shoeless Joe was. You hear about Ted Williams and get shivers thinking about the man who could be the greatest hitter to ever live. Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier was a monumental moment in sports history. MMA doesn’t have these heroes, or these huge historical sports moments. I am sure years from now guys like Randy Couture and GSP and Anderson Silva will be talked about like some of the great baseball players, and at some point it will produce some moments that transcend the sport. For now though it doesn’t.

For those reasons it isn’t my favorite sport, but as we expose the next generation, and they expose the generation after, and so on and so on, MMA will become a lot of people’s favorite sports. I just can’t wait to tell my future grandkids one day that I saw GSP in his prime, or watched Fedor pull off some amazing comeback victories or saw Anderson Silva’s epic record winning streak, or watched as Jon Jones went from talented prospect to world champion (come on… we all know it is eventually going to happen haha). When the sport starts getting handed down from generation to generation is when we will see it truly accepted in the mainstream and respected by the media (who at this point would have grown up with it).

by jpooch on Jan 28, 2011 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Rec'd for troof

Thanks you for saving me the trouble of typing this up. Well put sir.

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by dgonz on Jan 28, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

But I also hate the NFL, David Stern, Fifa… They still get my dollars.

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by Neil Manich on Jan 28, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I basically only watch MMA and kickboxing / Muay Thai. I stopped watching all other sports in my teens, and then I found combat sports in my early 20’s. That’s all I need! It’s enough just to keep up with these two niche sports, I don’t see the point in half-ass following loads of different types of sports. I guess I’m usually quite dedicated to what few things might interest me, it’s basically a requirement for me being able to enjoy it. It’s a beautiful thing.

by Horselover Fat on Jan 28, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

MMA #1 Football#2 other combat sports#3 for me...

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by mmafanfolife on Jan 28, 2011 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

I am a die hard sports fan

I watch and know just about everything when i comes to MMA. NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAABB, NCAAFB, and Nascar. I also watch Golf, and Tennis. I watch all of them on a regular basis and keep up with the stats and everything.

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by 40 Cal. on Jan 28, 2011 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

i love mma

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by Bonedoctor on Jan 28, 2011 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

I’m a huge Lakers fan, but unless it’s playoff time, I’m always going to choose a UFC event over their game. Strikeforce, or anything else on the other hand, not so much. So it’s not a matter of MMA being my favorite sport, so much as the UFC being my favorite sports organization.

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by zakkree on Jan 28, 2011 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

I very much disagree

MMA is my favorite sport. If you knew me, you’d know I get obsessive with my sports. All of my obsessive sports behavior prior to MMA was football, and I love football. But when I started watching MMA I immediately liked it. After seeing more and more fights I was absolutely immersed, wanting to know more and more. I am a fan of learning, and a sport that had so much learning opportunity while still providing entertainment was part of what lead me to like MMA more than football. I began to dislike the way football was becoming, and certainly hated its "President," Commissioner Roger Goodell. I then saw Dana White and liked him much more than Goodell. He may be rough around the edges, but he runs the company as a fan would. What do I wanna see? I still love football, but MMA is the best sport in the world to me.

by bash91 on Jan 28, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

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