Nick Diaz Considering a 2011 Boxing Fight?

That’s why I can’t see him having any chance against Mayorga. Mayorga is a brawler for sure, but he’s also a brawler who can box when he needs to and whose toughness will walk through those little pitter-pat punches when they’re thrown with boxing gloves. And Mayorga hits really damn hard.

I honestly don’t know if he even cares about how well he does as long as he’s taking home a big paycheck. But I think he has Don Chargin whispering in his ear that there is way more money than there truly is. And, knowing boxing promoters, I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s because he wants to promote Vargas and thinks that it’d be an easy “welcome back” fight for him.

the big paydays at Super Middleweight would be against the top level guys like Ward, Bute, Froch, Kessler, Dirrell, Bika, Andrade, Abraham or Glen Johnson.

None of those guys are wasting a fight against Diaz (not to mention that they’d murder him)

He ballooned up pretty big when he had initially retired

Diaz/Noons 3 would be a ShoBox undercard fight at best.

I don’t know that it’d have a huge impact. If MMA fans aren’t paying to watch MMA cards, I don’t know that they’d suddenly pay (rather than stream) an undercard boxing match.

That’s if the UFC feels strongly enough he’d be a legit contender. And he could earn Fight night bonuses. But I doubt they’d pay him higher then any other WW’s

Oh, it’s absolutely smart for them to leave those clauses open. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for Diaz to look for money in boxing.

good incentives but I guarantee you they wouldnt be offering any of this if they had the $$ and marketing value the UFC does…I like SF but lets be real theyre swimming with the big FISH

What do you mean? They have to do that, otherwise who would sign with SF?

Honestly, if they offered the same contracts as the UFC, maybe not the same money or even in some cases the same money, your far far far behind the UFC, your on SHowtime, not on PPV, your considered second rate org by casual fans, you have limited depth in your div, why on earth would a fighter sign with them instead of the UFC then?

So they have to have these things, they have to let them fight in K 1, Japan etc its the only way they can get fighters to sign with them for the most part, why on earth would a top fighter sign the same contract with SF instead of the UFC thats exclusive.

They might as well go to the UFC, make more money, sponsor money, PPV money, be on the biggest and best stage in mma fighting the very best, so SF has to offer them something else, a chance to make money fighting more times outside SF, in Japan, in K 1 etc.

But allowing fighters to fight elsewhere is risky, Daley/Diaz is the third biggest SF fight htey can make behind Fedor/Reem and Diaz/Miller, what if Daley loses in the UK fight? You just killed a huge fight for them, atleast if he lost in a SF fight then the winner who beat him is a contender and could get the shot, but allowing fighters to fight in other mma orgs, boxing, K 1 if they lose sure in boxing or kickboxing you can say its a different sport but that doesnt help them, and thats why the SF brand will never be as big or close to the UFC brand, cause they dont know how to build the brand, allowing fighters to fight in other orgs, confuses people as to who is a SF fighter, who fights for who etc.

I get why they do it they have no choice but sometimes it backfires on them.

Reem defending his title 1 time in 3 plus years cause he can fight and make money in other orgs is example number 1, they can just go fight in another org and screw your org, in the uFC you cant do that, M 1 couldnt hold out for a new contract cause UFC would own them, he couldnt fight for someone else, its either fight who we say or dont fight, I dont care, In SF they piss Reem off he can just go fight K 1, Dream etc.

So yeah it helps them get fighters from Japan, I’m sure some would rather be in the UFC, Jacare I believe would rather be in teh UFC, but he was signed with Dream, and UFC wont sign him if he has a Dream deal but SF will, so he goes to SF.

Um…a ten is phenomenal. A 7 is nothing special. I’ll take the ten

I’m no Nick Diaz fan but he’s Strikeforce’s biggest draw, hardly “promotional poison”.

Diaz has an excellent chance of becoming semi-relevan in Boxing

No he doesn’t. Not at super middleweight. Not at middleweight. Not at all.

Bika annihilates him, are you kidding me? Bika just went the distance with Andre fucking Ward.

However, a fight with Andre Dirrell intrigues me.

I’ll clear that up. I didn’t mean to mix that as his biggest payday but rather as his last payday but it reads really weird.

Put Nick against Sakio, it would do a killing. Hopefully nobody gets killed during post-fight. Jim Gray better shut his gibs asking Nick those probing questions.

Jim Gray: “During the Live telecast, did you attack Mayhem first? …don’t be scared homie.”

Nate busts Jim in the head with a water bottle

same way people who fought in japan a lot have that natural instinct to throw the knee – see Silva, Wanderlei as evidence #1

Diaz isn’t smart so they would probably throw him in with a top ten contender where he would start decent then lose on cuts or TKO.

Cyborg, Daley, Woodley, A rubber match with Noons, Miller (fair enough, that isn’t at WW). he has at least 4 legit fights at WW and one outside. And other fighters will emerge during the time it takes to get through those (even without the Miller fight).

I honestly thought that the sentence about long line of challengers was intended as a joke, as it’s generally thought that there aren’t any besides Daley and maybe Woodley. But opinions differ of course.

Nick would school Vargas the same way Roy tooled Tito at LHW. By that I meant Nick is a natural 170. Vargas’ was fighting with Mosley at 154 — back when he was semi relevant. That was three weight divisions ago.

Vargas would be in the ring for a paycheck.

Nick should be given the same handout.

I look at it this way. Toney was lucky because he was choked out — Toney suffered little brain trauma. If Nick thinks he has a chance going against a top five Super Middleweight, it could end his MMA career.

Not for the better either.

I’m not hating on him at all. I’m saying he’d make more money in the UFC and it’s a safer route for him to go. And a lot of boxers no one have ever heard of would beat him in a boxing ring. Having good MMA striking is a different beast. It just is. I mean, I’ve covered boxing and MMA in my life and Diaz has outstanding hands for MMA but it’s a different beast in a boxing ring against a guy who ONLY trains boxing and has done so for his entire year.

He talks about the kind of money Pacquaio makes and he (and a LOT of MMA fighters I’ve talked to) don’t seem to understand that it takes a long time and a lot of dedication to make real money in boxing. His MMA career would have to end for him to make the kind of money he wants from boxing.

That Zaromskis typo is my fault as I added that in after the initial posting.

I don’t wanna hear any talk of eating ass….whether amateur or pro, boxer/mm artist or porn star.

In the UFC — He would get something in the neighborhood of $90k against a mid-level fighter plus a possible KOTN/SOTN/FOTN bonus?

or…

Fighting for SF, he can get less plus fighting on a possible Showtime Boxing event in hopes of doubling or tripling his income?

Vargas is a “maybe” in the “could Diaz win a boxing match?” discussion while Mayorga is a “no.”

From the article. The point of what I wrote was less about his chances to succeed than this myth that going to boxing equals more money. The focus of an article dictates what you say in it.

Then there is the fact that I’ve spent the entire comment section here talking about how little of a chance he would have of succeeding in anything resembling the top levels of boxing.

if takedowns and jiujitsu are allowed in this “boxing” match

I guess if Diaz takes a shot from a mid-level striker in MMA, takinf one from a Pro-Boxer equates to instant knockout?

I believe Diaz’s style makes it interesting. You have a lot of Boxers who have been Professional’s don’t even deserve to be in a Boxing ring.

So his chances are just as good. Am I saying he’s the next 168lb champ? No. However, I believe he decisions Vargas or Mayorga.

I am merely stating give the guy a chance. Toney was given a pass. Diaz may not have the ring experience of a professional with 100 amateur fights, but he’s a fighter with plenty of heart.

I mean Toney had a chance…

There is an enormous difference between “good boxing” in MMA and “good boxing” in Boxing. KJ Noons has good MMA boxing. He couldn’t hack it against James Countryman. It’s simply a different thing to box a boxer.