An upset Jon Jones responds to Aaron Simpson:
Aaron Simpson tweets: "I don't think jon jones has any idea what he is getting into with Bader. I hope he is up for it."
Jon Jones tweets: "Didn't you lose your last 2 fights? Please don't piss me off, I actually have respect for Ryan. Don't you have a fight scheduled? Focus on yourself instead of weather I'm ready or not? Are you familiar with the strike policy in baseball?"
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Jon Jones. . .
seems like a touchy little mamas boy. Anytime anyone mentions him an a less-than-positive light, he whines and whines like a little primadonna.
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by Erasedhead on Jan 25, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
You already got nine recs, you dick!
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Yep, he seems to pretty consistently sound like a teenage girl with comments like these.
by Empty Thoughts on Jan 25, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ultimately...
He’s just a kid. I mean, I find it annoying too, but you weren’t exactly Buddha at that age.
Jones seems to be losing fans here and there as he seems to have a goody-two-shoes personality. He just needs to get more emphatic wins so MMA fans will forget anything he says.
I won't jump off the bandwagon just because you lost.
I've been getting pretty tired of his grind-it-out decisions, myself.
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It's the fault of that damn Greg Jackson! Look what he did to Melvin Guillard.
I won't jump off the bandwagon just because you lost.
by chrisbboy82 on Jan 26, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
seriously
3 strikes your out…is he subliminally telling me Im going back to prison for life?… I better do something quick
I guess he should laugh and let simpson talk smack to him and tell him he doesnt know what hes getting into ( Mr T wouldnt do that)….. Id say he countered the comment well and humorously ,, and i think all keyboard warriors can agree he knows what hes doing…i guess i just tend to appreciate someone who i can learn from…starting with the bonnar fight body to body suplex followed by the kick defense to spinning elbow..DAMN ( and no he didnt finish bonnar and yes Bader is one of the worst match ups for him stylistically(IF he can close the gap).. its gonna be good
by spidathon on Jan 25, 2011 8:27 PM PST reply actions
On the other hand, I think every one is overlooking Bader. I think he will be able to take Jones down and I think he will win this fight. Either that or he will get Annihilated in the first round.
So, you think Bader will win or lose. You might be on to something there, unless, of course, it’s a draw.
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 25, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Haha very funny. I think Bader is a bad match up for Jones because he’s more of a freestyle specialist and he could end up taking Jones down at will. Either that or Jones will starch him as he has been doing. So basically if Bader can find a way to hang with him he will win.
Have you seen any Jon Jones fights?
Both the Janitor and Matt Hamill had legitimate wrestling pedigrees, and Jones absolutely fustigated them. Hamill has a virtually identical collegiate wrestling background to Bader (they even fought at the same weight). If you think Bader is going to take Jones down “at will” when that’s not really even his game, you are out of your mind. If Bader wins it will be by catching Jones with one of those big power shots. Also, he’s not going to win.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Dont forget Vera
He had a fairly good Greco career. Not that he showed it in the cage. Actually, Vera has probably the most underwhelming MMA career when you consider his credentials
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by sitnam90 on Jan 25, 2011 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To this day
I still can’t believe how he turned out. I remember telling my friends who were just getting into MMA that this Vera guy is going to annihilate everyone and be the HW champ. Then he broke his hand against Big Tim and decided to get into a contract dispute, and he was never the same.
BOOSH
I argued constantly with a guy at work who thought the same thing. I won’t say I’m happy to be right as I don’t wish him ill or anything, but I just never believed the hype.
He is young yet though and could still turn things around if he really wants.
by Empty Thoughts on Jan 25, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
He’s 33 and he just looks worse every matchup. He isn’t ancient but I just don’t think he is young in sporting terms. I don’t see a turnaround ever happening
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by sitnam90 on Jan 25, 2011 3:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1. The Janitor is nowhere near as athletic as Bader.
2. Matt Hamil is too fixated on his improved stand up
Bader will come in with a game plan to not do anything stupid on the feet and time his takedowns in a Greg Jackson style game plan. I think Jones is getting a bit over confident too and is becoming a bit of a prick. He needs his arse kicked and I hope Bader is the one that does that for him. It will be the best thing that could happen for him.
by Ilias on Jan 25, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But Jones murdered those guys
Even if Bader is a substantial improvement over Hamill, they are they same basic type of fighter (big, strong, pedigreed wrestlers with heavy hands). Hamill had absolutely nothing for Jones. He was a blocking dummy until the ref stopped the beating.
Also, from what I’ve seen of Bader, he’s not really a Chael Sonnen type fighter, where he will just go for the takedown relentlessly, throughout the fight. Bader is in love with the power in his hands, and will likely look to use it against Jones. Frankly, I think that’s his best bet, because I really don’t see him getting Jones down and holding him down consistently.
And as for a Greg-Jackson-style game plan, that sounds great and all, except for the fact that Jones will be able to counter it with a …um…. Greg Jackson game plan.
I know the haters want to see Jones knocked down a peg, but Bader is not going to be the guy to do it.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t care about Hamil’s wrestling pedigree tbh because he’s not good at MMA. What people need to appreciate more is MMA is a martial art. That is why GSP out-wrestles everyone. Because of his timing and his ability to mix the striking with the wrestling effortlessly. If Bader does fancy his stand up in this fight then he will get taken out. But if he mixes the striking and goes up and down he will beat Jones.
In MMA Freestyle wrestling > Greco Roman
I’m sorry, you’re trying to make a logical argument to support your emotional bias and I’m not buying it. Nobody is taking Jones down consistently. Nobody is holding Jones down at all. He is rag-dolling legitimate fighters like they were children and beating the crap out of everyone he faces. He’s got superior reach to Bader, he’s more well-rounded and he’s got the best camp in MMA. Also, despite Bader’s vaunted strength, I think Jones will come into the ring with a not insubstantial weight and strength advantage. These are the reasons why Bader is +360 or whatever it is, not because of Jones’ “hype.”
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If Bader really showed that he mixes his stand-up with his wrestling effectively then I’d say you have a point. The problem is, he doesn’t. He’s a good wrestler with decent stand-up, but he’s not this genius at mixing it up. He’s more of a Dan Henderson type fighter. If anything you described Jones (his takedowns seem to completely surprise his opponents.
Taking nothing from Bader, he’s a really good fighter with plenty of power.
Jon Jones also has some excellent scrambling ability on the ground, so if bader did take him down I’m inclined to believe Jones would scramble back to his feet
by TheBiggertheyare... on Jan 25, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Damn. He is REALLY trying to make me cheer for Ryan Bader…..and everyone else he fights from here on out.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 25, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions
In ancient times, god would send large stones down from the heavens to
shut up people who defied his power. Not that I believe in that story, but I wish there was some way to shut Jon Bones up. Even for like a day. I think the Pope might make him a saint or something if he continues faking it like he is.
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 25, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Jon Jones seems like an asshole.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jan 25, 2011 10:10 AM EST reply actions 23 recs
I’m trying to decide weather (whether) or not I agree with you….and…I do.
by mjw2e on Jan 25, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
but but but...
He´s just expressing his opinion.
by edtSD on Jan 25, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Which is ...
Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.
by MarcoDos on Jan 25, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
he seems overly sensitive to light comments
Hope he doesn’t thank Coors and embarrass UFC in his victory speech
Some people just aren’t good with jawing back and forth without making it sound like you got their goat. I am not going to base his personality off of what he says on twitter. You can’t determine the tone he is trying to express. For the most part in his interviews he comes off as pretty humble. From his reaction to Vera at the weigh-ins he seems to not handle smack talk very well though. Seems pretty typical of a younger sibling with big older brothers.
It was Simpson’s insinuation that Jones is ignorant that likely set him off. He’s does seem a tad impetuous, but he’s young. He also seems to value his intelligence and that of the team around him. And then there’s that thing about being African-American and therefore being chronically underestimated with regard to matters of the mind. All of that may be in play here. But, if you want to think he’s just a plain old A-hole it’s your right. Jones opened himself up to it, I guess.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Insinuation that Jones is ignorant? I’m not seeing it.
by sgiblin on Jan 25, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"No idea what he's getting into with Bader."
Why would he not have any idea what he’s getting into? It’s an example of how a seemingly benign statement of support for someone can be construed or misconstrued as a personal dig in the light of certain context which most tend to ignore.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Dude. We don't need any more Al Sharptons.
Simpson is just talking shit. Basically saying Jones is going to get his ass kicked.
by sgiblin on Jan 25, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's a common turn of phrase
If Jon Jones sees anything overly condescending in that cliche, then he is really, really dumb.
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by Anthony Pace on Jan 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
he is really, really dumb
Well, he did confuse weather with whether….
by Jonathan Snowden on Jan 25, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
It amazes me how often I see things like that...
College / University grads that confuse things like
weather and whether
too and to
and one of my all time favorites
minus well with might as well
Seriously WTF is wrong with our education system. Asians aren’t smarter, we are just dumb as shit on the whole.
than/then is a bad one
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People do need to learn the difference between “looser” and “loser” especially when the former is used multiple times in an entry, signifying that the user really doesn’t know the correct usage.
by Pantherhare on Jan 25, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Spelling is no longer graded in most schools which is just furthering this problem. My much younger sisters were all essentially told to give it their best try and if it was readable as the word they intended, it was correct enough.
Add to that internet shorthand somehow becoming acceptable outside of the internet…
by Empty Thoughts on Jan 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, you beat me to it. Call me grammar or spelling police or whatever, but I can't stand when people mix up words like that.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying, if you're gonna play that card
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Respectfully, your agenda sucks.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, according to you, Jones’ minor show of intemperance means that he’s an asshole, and a dumb one at that, really no different than Latrell Sprewell. It seems to me like you may have an agenda. Nothing Personal! I may not like it, but I would only speculate that, for you, there is a certain rationale involved and that it’s not merely an example of you being an A-hole. I wish you well on your endeavors! The world is what it is.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think he seems like an asshole. I don’t know if he’s stupid or not, just think it’s funny to make that mistake.
SC knows what the Sprewell refers to. It doesn’t have anything to do with Jones.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jan 25, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well, you obviously called him an asshole. The word “seems” does not inoculate intent from meaning. Whether or not the Sprewell thing is an inside reference, your use of it would seem to have a lot to do with Jones given the context of the conversation. Anyway, it strikes me as a pretty clever smear job. Someone mentioned Sharpton, you toss in Sprewell — keep going, fellas, maybe we’ll make it all the way back to Nat Turner.
But I have a question. How many well-known fighters have you referred to as “assholes” in your career writing and commenting on MMA?
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well, you obviously called him an asshole. The word "seems" does not inoculate intent from meaning.
I disagree. I said seems because I don’t know him. I’ve interacted with him once.
Whether or not the Sprewell thing is an inside reference, your use of it would seem to have a lot to do with Jones given the context of the conversation.
How so? Did Jones choke Greg Jackson? You’re reaching. I was referring to SC not Jones.
How many well-known fighters have you referred to as "assholes" in your career writing and commenting on MMA?
Almost all of them.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jan 25, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
When did SC choke Greg Jackson?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I'm in the rabbit-hole, now.
Have you really referred to almost all well-known fighters as “assholes” in print? Why would anyone, particularly a journalist, choose to do that? I’m rather new to the sport, and certainly new to your writing (which is usually provocative in its way) but I don’t remember your making that kind of judgement about any single fighter, and certainly not “almost all of them.”
Being a good writer and thinker, it’s obvious that you have the ability to use meaning aggressively while covering your flank with passive language. But for example if someone were to say to someone else about me that I “seemed like an asshole,” I would safely assume, if I heard about it, that they considered me as such. If, when confronted, they said something like, "Well I didn’t call you that, I just said “seems” because I don’t really know you," I would probably think even less of them. It’s an expressed opinion based on a personal judgement you made about his character. Weather or not you know him, you surely know what you think of him, and more importantly, what you want others to think about him.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He does.
Is it because he’s “dumb?” I think it’s because he’s inexperienced and perhaps too sensitive. You know what may be a cliche to me can be condescending to someone else, and for legitimate reasons. It’s all I was saying. Jones’ decision to turn up the rhetoric was his own, and was unwise. In general though, he seems like an okay guy to me. Someday, I’m sure he’ll learn to deal with the subtle condescension of meatheads better.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Fighter Bashing! Where's the Banhammer?
…oh, wait.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
One of the new mods will ban him
They’re just bound to make a rookie mistake.
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If Subo was a mod....
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
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There'd be a lot of people missing
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by Krimson on Jan 25, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So constantly CONSTANTLY laying the wood?
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by Krimson on Jan 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Holy shit, you're right.
Should be a last name…
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I want that to be my last name now.
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It doesn't work as a last name, but I also like to say
Fish hatchery, but squish it together and treat the h as silent. Fishactchery!!
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"seems like"?
If it sounds like an asshole, acts like an asshole, and treats others like an asshole, he is an a-hole?
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 25, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
because I like things in 3s
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 25, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
haha. I don't know man.
I thought maybe If I use it 4 times, it’d be fighter bashing. haha. You guys always ask the toughest questions. Why is a circle 360 degrees? It just is ;)
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 25, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
why don’t you like things in 4s?
by TheBiggertheyare... on Jan 25, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
because 3 is a special number in numerology. and it is a prime number.
Just saying
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 25, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Jon Jones an asshole
it’s definitely possible, but I imagine it’s pretty hard to be humble if you’re so much better than everyone you’ve faced?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
What’s here? You’re predicted Jones-backlash?
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Blacklash?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, it's been here for a while
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by Drunken cutman on Jan 25, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
uhhh. fighter bashing?
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Jan 25, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
What did he say that was so upsetting to everyong?
For a bunch of fans and experts in the art of violence, you all are pretty sensitive.
He replied to a somewhat taunting tweet and stated that he respected Bader… and the guy is 23 years old… five years out of high school. C’mon now.
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by KillerInstinct on Jan 25, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Add Jon Jones to the list of humans that should be banned from Twitter.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 25, 2011 10:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Jones seems a little wound tight. Dude needs to gear down.
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by Worldisart on Jan 25, 2011 10:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
And if he don't calm down I'M GONNA KICK HIS ASS...
…erm, err, oh right. Never mind.
:)
BL likes to call everyone “emotional.” I wonder what he’ll say about this.
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 25, 2011 10:14 AM EST reply actions
Racism.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 25, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was originally going to say that Jon Jones is just a lil too sensitive
But yea, I think the Race Card is in play with this one. Clearly.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Now I’m going to associate abused/neglected dogs with you.
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 25, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
You mean, you weren’t doing that before?
Weird.
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by timetraveltome on Jan 25, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think Jones has an attitude problem, and he has for a while. On the other hand, that cut to 205 may be starting to get to him, not that that is an excuse
Thiago Silva was right
“this guy is a jerk”
by nastyem on Jan 25, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Thiago?
Lets not pretend Thiago is exactly the most respectful fighter out there.
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what does that have to do with Jones beings a jerk?
if another asshole calls you a jerk, something must be up
by TheBiggertheyare... on Jan 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not really. If an asshole like Thiago calls someone a jerk then it doesn’t mean much to me. All Jones has been doing is voicing his opinion on twitter. That’s nowhere as bad as openly taunting a seriously hurt opponent
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by sitnam90 on Jan 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Jones is acting a bit childish. However, he is still going to run over Bader
by devious1 on Jan 25, 2011 10:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I love Jonny, but Goddamn, dude needs to calm down.
So much cock. A cock guy.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on Jan 25, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions
Jon Jones is challenging anyone out there to a good old fashioned
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 25, 2011 10:33 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
maybes you will take him up on it.
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by The Omaplatapus on Jan 25, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
aw that was sad for you.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 25, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
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I wish all your hot tubs cold.
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I wish you ill, Black Lesnar.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 25, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
That was you that called my house, telling a ninja's wife that he was cheating on her
Trying to destroy what little family unit I had put together.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Success gets to his head
Bader alleviates the pressure in his brain through sloppy right hand that connects.
Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.
Don't know why you are all so sensitive.
This guy is a fighter. Not only that, but he has a fight coming up. So what he’s a little tightly wound. Most fighters are; especially before a fight. Most fighters are… At least ones that I have met (which admittedly aren’t many).
by SkeezinSteevin on Jan 25, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
It's Anti- Hype Train Backlash
The same thing (to a lesser extent) happened with Cain Velasquez. With any heavily hyped fighter certain people will latch onto anything they think is negative, so they can have the opposite opinion.
by BilboMcFonzie on Jan 25, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah exactly. I understand it’s somewhat annoying for the UFC to market him like that, but there’s a very good business reason for them to do it. It seemed like kind of a silly thing to be bothered by.
by BilboMcFonzie on Jan 25, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
At least there will be some steam when they eventually fight.
1) Silva ducks Jones and says he isn’t as good as Tim Boesch
2) Jones calls Silva a jerk
3) Silva calls Jones a jerk
4) Potentially a great fight
5) Profit
If Silva manages to get past Rampage
and Jones manages to get past Bader
or if they both lose…
I would gladly pay to see it.
But you can’t bitch and moan like an impotent jerk if you take things in context. That would be like reasonable and stuff.
by Danthemmaman on Jan 25, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing wrong with these comments IMO
Nor the Thiago comments. In the former he called out a fighter for what he saw was a disrespectful act in the cage. In the latter he was just firing back at his opponets teammate. He doesn’t talk smack well, but that’s all this amounts too.
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I'm with you.
Though I thought the three strikes thing was quite a zing.
I am impressed with his performance.
Koscheck has frosted tips.
The real question is
Is GSP impressed?
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by sitnam90 on Jan 25, 2011 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
Simpson didn’t mean it the way Jones took it, but who cares. He just gave Bones more motivation to tool up Darth.
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Its not like Simpson said anything out of the ordinary. A training partner hyping up a fight? Hardly the first time its ever happened
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by StevenGiles on Jan 25, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
He mad
I wonder if an upset Jon Jones is likely to make mistakes. Some upcoming opponents might give it a try.
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Whos really over-reacting
Jones…or the fans and media…Hmmmm
chicken or the egg??
by MMA_Revolution on Jan 25, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
The egg
Obviously.
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by Drunken cutman on Jan 25, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
ok so
who laid the egg…the virgin mary? lol
by MMA_Revolution on Jan 25, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking fans and media.
Fighters do this crap all the time, but because Jones always comes off as the good guy, this kind of talk has become more shocking out of him.
And Jones might be overreacting a bit too…
by SkeezinSteevin on Jan 25, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it sounds like Jones is going to lose sleep over Simpsons' comments.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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i like jones so much but he’s starting to come of like a prick
by The Evil Dr Pork Chop on Jan 25, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions
Same, I want to like Jones...
…but he’s a bit preachy.
Rule of thumb: if you don’t follow ubereem, rampage or ariel helwani on twitter, but you do follow the dalai lama you’re probably an ass.
For balance I should add that skill and potential-wise...
…Aaron Simpson isn’t fit to make jon jones a sandwich.
Simpson would gas just taking out the bread.
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by SSreporters on Jan 25, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think Jones doesn't know what he's in for..
..with Aaron Simpson’s BLT.
Koscheck has frosted tips.
Damn everyone crying over Jones' comments.
by Crazynutts on Jan 25, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
What movie is that from?
I’ve seen that gif for years and I have never been able to figure it out
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by sitnam90 on Jan 25, 2011 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I always figured it was a candid moment in the life of James van der Beek.
She blinded me with Xyience.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 25, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Same amount of people saw Varsity Blues as well
They made a video game about Yakuzas. It’s called Yakuza. And it’s about Yakuza
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Varsity Blues
Was a fun movie, if you were in the young adult target audience when it came out. Also, what’s-his-name (Jolie’s dad) was an awsome villain/coach.
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by outlander78 on Jan 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Jon Voigt
He’s given us such great things as angelina jolie and the funny bit in seinfeld about george’s le baron
Also, he did a great job getting raped in
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I get what you're saying..
I really do. But that is the weirdest, most cringe-inducing comment I’ve ever read.
Voigt didn’t get raped. Ned Beatty got raped. Squeal, piggy!
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 25, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Point is
Dude got raped and that’s not something we condone nor wish to know
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Gender double standard
Funny if it is a guy; serious business if it is a girl.
It wasn't funny
in Deliverance either. First time I saw it was before my first white water rafting trip. I didn’t laugh.
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by Chris Barton on Jan 25, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I kinda dig it.
I don’t think this makes him an asshole. I’d prefer to see him showing some emotion to him using some canned “We will see what happens….INSIDE THE OCTAGON” response like every other guy. Helps set him apart.
But come on Jones…‘whether’, not ‘weather’.
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by lowellthehammer on Jan 25, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions
i love it
stay arrogant, stay cocky, and stay hungry jon jones
alot of the greats are like this, look at mj’s hall of fame speech, and everything ali ever said
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by milk72 on Jan 25, 2011 11:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Whoa...
…he’s not quite at that level yet. MJ / Ali changed their respective industries and also… in a very real way… transcended their industries and changed the world.
For now, Bones is just a tall, strong prospect in a stacked weight class.
The comparison of attitudes is valid
there’s no telling whether he will ever approach MJ’s level, but always being a little pissed off and hungry in a character trait of champions.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
But he's not a genius...
…MJ and Ali were geniuses.
I'm not feeding you troll.
If you disagree, I feel sorry for you.
Good question...
…Can I answer both? And throw in Mick Jagger too.
Jordan was a genius in that he got Nike to build his public persona for him
And was careful not to break that facade in public.
Both.
Nike for the persona they built, Jordan for being smart enough to realize the wisdom in giving Nike that control. No one else had done it to that level before. And Jordan again for keeping up that public face for two decades despite it being very, very different than his real personality.
Didn’t know that. I guess more credit goes to the agent then. Either way, I still give Jordan credit, as a perfectionist and control freak, giving up control of how the public sees you is a hard thing.
And he could umm... play basketball better than anyone in the world
ever.
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Oh. Pssht, right, that thing.
He never woulda won if not for Luc Longley.
by gzl5000 on Jan 25, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jordan's genius
Is bodily kinetic.
He’s clearly a basketball genius, along with a golf prodigy.
The reason he is so good, is because his mind thinks and feels the game entirely different than the rest of the world.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
The reason he is so good, is because his mind thinks and feels the game entirely different than the rest of the world.
Actually hes so good because he had unbelievable athletic ability mixed with a borderline psychotic drive to win.
If anyone’s mind actually perceived the game at a different level it would be Magic Johnson
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He's not even the most athletic player
not even in his early era.
Dominique Wilkins in the 80’s and Vince Carter in the 90’s and 2000’s are both examples of players with more explosion and quickness than Jordan.
mixed with a borderline psychotic drive
that’s pretty much the hallmark of genius.
Magic was a huge PG and also a very talented athlete.
He had a great feel for the game and super high basketball IQ, but so does Steve Nash, Jason Kdd, Chris Paul, John Stockton and a lot of other players in league history.
These guys all perceive the game very differently than other players. Even other NBA players.
A backup guard in the NBA sees the game on a level that very few players ever will know exists.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
I have to say this
Blaming his greatness on his athletic ability is really downplaying his intelligence.
I’m not calling you a racist, at all. Not even backhandedly, but this is the type of things racists have always said about any great black athlete. That they dominated because of athleticism solely. Like Mike Vick, Venus and Serena.
There were so many very athletic players in NBA history who played very well and even won championships before Jordan.
Most of them are totally unknown now. Why is that? Because they didn’t have the mind Michael does.
That drive you speak of is also a creation of Jordan’s mind. You made himself that person.
That is to say nothing of all the innovation he brought to the game. Which is, in itself, a physical manifestation of his genius.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Nobody's saying Jones is on MJ or Ali's level
The point Milk was making, that I agree with, is that many athletic greats go about their business with a chip on their shoulder, regardless of what they accomplish. They feed off of that (often false) sense of disrespect and anger to drive them to even greater heights. They are also very often, kind of dickish in person.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
This
Michael Jordan had a perpetual chip on his shoulder. I don’t care what Jon Jones does to keep himself angry, as long as he keeps taking it out on his opponents in entertaining fashion.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 25, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
NO
He ain’t that guy. He ain’t MJ. He ain’t Ali. He sure as s++t ain’t Jordan.
Not yet.
of course he isnt
hes 23 years old and unproven
his attitude is perfect though, hes a perfectionist with a chip on his shoulder
couldnt ask for anything more
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We can agree that he's great to watch...
…but I might just unfollow the guy.
To be fair
people didn’t like Ali either because they perceived him as too cocky.
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by lowellthehammer on Jan 25, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
alot of the greats
I’m not being a dick, and you really are free to spell as you wish, but “alot” is not a word.
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by Drunken cutman on Jan 25, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Personally....
I like Jon Jones, but I like him more when he is humble about everything. I think he lost his cool a bit here. Which is fine, he is only human and I am not about to make judgements.
Hell no.
Get your logic using ass out of here. We must OVERREACT! and make asinine INFERENCES about Jones and his character. Let our AGENDAS flow freely through our words.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Next Twitter Wars updates will look like this:
Aaron Simpson tweets: Hey Jonesy, I was kidding why dont you chillax and go cry to your boyfriend rashad…now go get ur F**King shinebox!
Jon Jones tweets: Listen you Jive Turkey! I will manhandle you and destroy whats left of your career…you dont know who you f**kin wit son!
by MMA_Revolution on Jan 25, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions
Jive turkey?
SCs racism sense is tingling.
She blinded me with Xyience.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 25, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You and comedy should never mate again.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
crickets
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jan 25, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like Aaron Simpson offered some canned hype and Jon Jones shut him down with a mildly amusing response. I enjoyed it.
by castleeb on Jan 25, 2011 11:10 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
If jones gets upset after teammate hype maybe he shouldn’t follow him on twitter. I’d hate to see Jones have to deal with someone like Sonnen
by tremblay6 on Jan 25, 2011 11:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Where do you see him getting upset?
I see him facepalming someone who hasn’t earned the right to knock on his door.
Koscheck has frosted tips.
I think its a slight case of Kanye-itis
he will be with proper medication
I got Jones by TKO in the 3rd..btw
by MMA_Revolution on Jan 25, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions
Jones hasn't done anything worthy of the heat he gets until now
This really isn’t a majorly big deal, but going after a dude like this with such emotion for simply tweeting support for his team mate is a tad ridiculous.
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What emotion?
He’s not crying. He was just keeping a brother in his place.
Koscheck has frosted tips.
Please don't piss me off
sounds like he is upset to me. He mad.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 25, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Or he's threatening Simpson.
“Don’t piss me off… you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.”
Koscheck has frosted tips.
A tad douchey, but it is close to fight time for Jones and I’m sure he’s anxious, nervous and angry like most fighters before a big fight…
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Emphasis mine.
It kind of bugged me, only because we all fight, and just losing alone is humiliating enough. It’s embarrassing. … Think about all the people who watched those fights. All his fans, all the members at his school, all the kids that look up to him.
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Wow. That was a really weird and overly emotional reaction by Jones. really weird.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions
While douchey.
That was a pretty sick burn.
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by Sebastiaan Tauran on Jan 25, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions
I hate being right, but.....
I knew this day would come.
Hey let’s take some comments and pick them apart for no discernible reason.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I thin people, are dissecting the comments because
Didn’t you lose your last 2 fights? Please don’t piss me off,
they seeem out of character for Jones and a little bit of a overreaction to a simple tweet about a teammate from Simpson
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He has varying emotions. He’s not a “character”. That’s “wrasslin”.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
A Christian goody-goody gets riled up, so we make fun of him. It’s simple.
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 25, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no, a Christian with the ability for emotions
Like 99.999999999999% of Christians out there.
When has he proclaimed to be a “goody goody”? Because he said he was the type to snitch on illegal potheads? Considering he was going to be a LO, that’s not too far out of pocket. Nah, fans gave him that label. They couldn’t comprehend this man who was so good and getting so much hype, yet he was a quiet guy and not brash and cocky. It fucked with the minds of MMA fans as it went against the preconceived notions they had. So he must be pious, they concluded. And thus, everything that he did that didn’t jive with that was overanlyzed.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FYI when people say “character of a person” it does not mean pro wrestling all the time :)
Jones can be emotional, but overreaction is a emotion to…
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FYI when people say "character of a person" it does not mean pro wrestling all the time :)
by Jonathan Snowden on Jan 25, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
People seem to have Jones pigeon-holed as a goody good
kiss babies and walk old ladies across streets type person. Just like they had Brock Lesnar PHoled as some mean, don’t give a fuck bastard. When Brock gave his speech after UFC 116, everyone tripped over themselves to say “Oh, Brock’s changed/he’s a new man” blah blah. People seem to think these FIGHTERS are characters like it’s pro wrestling and everyone has a gimmick. It’s not. These are humans with a variety of emotions.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's ok though
His latest tweet
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 25, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about everyone else here, but I’m shitting on Jon Jones for acting like a douchebag, which is what I generally do to douchebags.
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by Anthony Pace on Jan 25, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or that saying that he's acting like an ass isn't really picking anything apart, nor does it have anything to do with being "out of character".
His statement here was completely dickish for no real reason. At face value, it was a dick thing to say. Jones is mocking a guy for losing.
You can go levels deeper and analyze this, like with the quote I posted above where he says a loss alone is embarrassing enough without people rubbing it in. Or this one from an article where he places himself on a pedestal and calls himself a champion because of how he treats people well and growing the sport.
In some ways, I feel as if I’m already a champion by the way I treat people and the things I’m trying to do for the sport
We can talk about why this was an overreaction. We can talk about how Aaron was building up his team mate, not tearing down Jones, and not being disparaging. We can talk about how Aaron is 4-2 under the Zuffa banner, certainly a respectable record. But we don’t need to.
Nothing changes the fact that this was a completely classless statement. Whether it was Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, GSP, Brock Lesnar, or Frank Mir who said it, this was disrespectful and unnecessary.
So anybody silly enough to claim that this has been brewing for ages because of success, race, or any other reason besides Jones actually being a punk desperately needs reconsider their talking points.
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by pdl on Jan 25, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Let me add a little green to that statement.
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by JaeeJaee on Jan 25, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All well and good.
But you’re chalking Jones’ response to dickishness, and I would submit that he responded to something more subtle that he perceived (rightly or wrongly) from Simpson. It’s not at all silly to explore farther than “oh, he’s an asshole.” or “oh, he’s just a huge dick,” when examining the reasons for Jones’ weirdly extreme reaction to the words of Bader’s teammate. However, we can agree that it was a mistake. For God sake he suddenly appears to be right up there with Pretty Boy Floyd in the pantheon of uppity black fighters!
by Charlie Custer on Jan 25, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
He just REALLY doesn't like Jones for some reason
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Nah man, I'm naming my penis after him.
This way we only need one name for two dicks you won’t stop riding, even when they ignore you.
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by pdl on Jan 25, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
LOL coming from YOU I find this funny
Especially after your emotional outbursts in that fanpost comments section last week.
You’ve stated in the past that you don’t like Jon Jones and you have a reason you can’t/don’t want to say. Have you not?
So where did I misrepresent your words? More emotions.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
SC, I usually agree with you on issues of race and other multicultural considerations.
But I think this Jones thing is just Jon being kind of a dick. I used to be a big fan of Jones. I still kind of like him. I was willing to admit my own bias and flat-out racism in growing to dislike Rashad in this thread.
I like Jones’ fighting style, and at first I loved that he espoused and seemed to live humility and honor. This, despite the fact that his nickname should CLEARY BE “MARTIAN MANHUNTER.” But that’s beside the point. More and more (mostly through twitter), it seems to me that Bones is honorable and humble until he perceives a personal slight (as yes, I’m sorry, someone who calls Matyushenko a “talker” has some thin skin), which seems to be quite often, and then he reacts by, well….being a dick.
I’m no longer torn in allegiance between young, talented, athletic, good-looking African-American wrestlers in the LHW division. Phil gets all my love. Because he is the coolest dude.
I never (and the ROCK means NEVER) said this had anything to so with racism
My comments have been that Jones has a backlash because he was given so much attention and when that happens, there’s a backlash. I stated this on BE months ago. Never about racism. When people asked me was it about race, I said “NO, it’s not about racism.”
Why do people assume that it’s still about race? It’s like they WANT me to say “It’s about racism”.
Because it’s not.
But people keep assuming that it is.
And it’s not.
That’s said, people are nitpicking Jones’ comments as is what happens during a backlash (that isn’t about racism). People can say this was “dickish” and they have that right. I’m just laughin at the fact that I was right in the end.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
The winner effect. We love to tear down our most successful.
But this would get hated on regardless.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 25, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I don’t care if it was Nick Diaz, Fedor, GSP or Lesnar said it… it still was a huge leap about a tweet that wasn’t directed towards Jones and was more about trying to hype up Bader rather than tear down Jones.
That being said Jones is 23 and a lot of 23 year olds tweet stupid stuff, think he just misunderstood Simpson’s tweet.
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by some schmuck in texas on Jan 25, 2011 12:37 PM EST reply actions
i like jones
Simpson wants to talk shit to bones, he has a right to talk back.
by RobSchneider'sSuccessfulTwin on Jan 25, 2011 12:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jones is another one of those assholes who hides behind a respectful demeanor, kinda like Fabricio Werdum. His true colors are showing here.
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That was a good post until you put Fabricio Werdum in there.
Fabricio is just a goofy guy who is probably being pushed into saying whatever controversial things he is saying. I don’t think that is the case with Jones, who seems like a classic holier than thou.
He snitched on kids for smoking weed, which no matter what you think about weed, is a head scratcher. Someone snitches on kids for stealing or vandalism, fair enough. But if you see a bunch of kids smoking and laughing and generally just goofing around (because that is all that happens 98% of the time kids smoke weed) and you go tell the authorities, well that makes me wonder if you aren’t doing it because you enjoy seeing other people get in trouble.
And then he has these interviews where he talks about honor and respect and the samurai way, things that honorable and respectful people rarely talk about, while at the same time doing things that aren’t particularly honorable and respectful. Fedor hasn’t had a beef in his entire career.
Frankly, Jones should practice more of what he preaches.
by Luke Nelson on Jan 25, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He deserved to be put in there.
I think you should check out more Fabricio Werdum interviews, not just the latest one where he talks about Overeem being his “son” and how Overeem has been “talking alot”; which really hasn’t been the case at all. In many of his interviews from the PRIDE days, he takes a condescending tone to most of his opponents while at the same time, preaching about honor and respect (does this remind you of someone?).
As for Jones, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you have said. I respect his talents but I’m not buying the dude a drink anytime soon.
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by Horselover Fat on Jan 25, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
He's just a young dude...
though that’s not to say that you don’t make good points. But we cannot presume to know anything about his intent.
But if anything, the whole weed thing is as bad as it gets imho ‘cause if there was legal action involved, that could’ve screwed those guys’ future prospects real bad, like not being able to join the Army, or be considered for scholarships in college, etc.
by Unabomberman on Jan 25, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I always figures Bones was a bit sensitive when he called Vladdy (of all people) "another talker"....
But if this sensitivity leads to carnage I’m all for it…
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Both jon Jones and KenFlo put foot in mouth this week.
All in all it’s no biggie.
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Jones didn't put a foot in his mouth
his threatening to put a foot in Aaron Simpson’s mouth.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Nevermind. He's saying he's about to get fired. Misread that.
He better start his diet.
On the flip-side, if Aaron really wanted the fight he could just move up the ranks at 205 until they match them up.
I think Jones dropping down is the more likely of the two.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Jones dropping down would not happen. I know a few guys close to jones, he gets about as low as he can for 205. Best he could do would be like a catchweight.
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That's what I was saying
He’s a really big buy, and he’s ranked way too high to fight Simpson without a few losses first.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Just like the hysterical disdain that Rashad seems to get from certain sections of the public, now Jones can’t do anything right without some ridiculous backlash. The sad thing is, the more he wins (and imo he most certainly will) the hate he will get. I’m sure, just like Rashad, he will handle it well and continue to improve in the octogon. Who doesn’t occasionally act like a wanker and say some stupid shit? I’ve been lurking here for a minute so I can say that there are not too many…. Peace
Yeah that is true...
..However Jones has gone on record more than a few times talking about how awesome it is to be a true martial artist and how he is so into being humble and honorable.
And so he is being hypocritical when he involves himself in these sorts of petty spats.
No one likes a hypocrite.
Rashad is a bad influence. His dick rubs off on Jones.
by Horselover Fat on Jan 25, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OOOOOOOH don't you say that, don't you infer that.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
"I know what I'm getting myself into. I'm getting into a title shot once I beat Bader down."
He could have come back with something calm and casual like this. Or he could have said nothing at all. For a guy who seemed to be such a cool dude before, I’m going to go ahead and chalk this one up to him having a bad day and Simpson rubbing him the wrong way with his comments. It could also be that the weight cut is getting to him, in which case he should probably just ignore them. I remember my sophomore year in high school when I cut 17 lbs. down from my natural weight to make 137. I didn’t want shit to do with anyone. However, if someone got on my nerves, I would just walk away and keep my mouth shut. It was hard to be reasonable and think of something to comeback with that didn’t make me come off as a huge dick when I was almost completely drained both mentally and physically.
So...
Jon Jones turns out to be a gasp normal twenty-something-year-old guy who doesn’t like to be trashtalked [sic?] in a public forum, and people get prissy about it? Dude’s the osn of a minister not a saint.
I meant...
son.
But ‘osn’ does have a nicer ring to it…
by Unabomberman on Jan 25, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not the problem. The problem is, he expects everyone to act respectful and humble (i.e. Thiago Silva) but at the same time, he acts like an asshole.
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A lot of guys, especially black guys
don’t like it when their name is in someone’s mouth. Especially for no reason.
Jon Jones doesn’t have anything to gain(at all) by Aaron talking about him.
I don’t see what’s wrong with telling someone to mind their own business and keep your name out of their mouth.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
It's not exactly him talking back but...
how he chose to do so. It makes him look petty.
I imagine he wouldn’t be fine if he was somehow on a losing skid and someone threw him a low blow like that, don’t you think?
by Unabomberman on Jan 25, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't reply
But yeah, this stuff seems beneath Jones. But who cares?
If he wants to be a dick he has the right to. He’s about to fight in 10 days, I’m sure he’s not thinking the friendliest thoughts right now.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Of course...
he’s entitled to act however he wants, especially as a fight approaches, and it is no reason for anyone to start hating on him. It’s just that it looks, well, silly (to use a different word).
But he’s still in the initial stages of his career so it’s no big deal. He ought to grow up out of it (given his age and success, it’s a small miracle he’s not a legend inside his own mind yet).
by Unabomberman on Jan 25, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I'm sure he is.
it’s a small miracle he’s not a legend inside his own mind yet
He just doesn’t verbalize yet. How would you feel about yourself if you destroyed Rashad(and everyone else) in practice everyday, then come fight night, you break your last three opponents within two minutes each time?
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Dunno...
I’d be up to my nose in strippers and blow by then that all feeling would’ve totally stopped by then…
by Unabomberman on Jan 25, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And Jones had anything to gain talking about Thiago Silva?
Hype a fight that many would consider a step back for Jones??
Yes he does.
Seeing as Thiago is a very relevant name at 205, some hype and the ensuing fight would make perfect sense.
Not only is Simpson not on Jones’ or Thiago’s level, he’s not in their weight class.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Well, I personally think that wasn’t his intention when he twitted about Thiago. But your point is valid anyway.
Jones does seem pretty douchey
but I think he did imply(indirectly) he wanted to fight Thiago.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Its like a Hip Hop Bible verse
May my name taste like ass when you speak it.
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"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
you
are an idiot. i forgot he has no right to state that he thinks his teammate is going to beat his opponent. get out of here with your black guys don’t like it shit. that’s some sucka shit.
by candy routure on Jan 25, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Jones is becoming a Rashad Evans clone. Way he dresses his ego everything…hopefully his style stills stays exciting. While its a great camp i hate to see yet another great fighter end up in the dullest crew.
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by Horselover Fat on Jan 25, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Two Black men who are friends MUST be aliike
It’s INEVITABLE.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Even if they weren't in the same camp, I'd still assume they were friends.
Don’t you all know each other? Say high to the POTUS at your next meeting?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Two meetings at once
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by S.C. Michaelson on Jan 25, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
So you only need one meeting hall?
Have my people been giving lessons to yours?
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by TheFilt on Jan 26, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The fake jew gold or real stuff?
cuz everybody knows you got both.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
I don't blame Jones for being upset
Simpson is jealous because he can’t seem to win. Maybe trying to keep his name out there so he doesn’t get a pink slip. Why all the hate for Jones? Bader is overrated and will be exposed imo.
I lump Brock and Jon Jones in the same categories.
Don’t care for them as people, but damn they’re fun to watch fight.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 25, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions
seriously...
3 strikes your out…is he subliminally telling me Im going back to prison for life?… I better do something quick
I guess he should laugh and let simpson talk smack to him and tell him he doesnt know what hes getting into ( Mr T wouldnt do that)….. Id say he countered the comment well and humorously ,, and i think all keyboard warriors can agree he knows what hes doing…i guess i just tend to appreciate someone who i can learn from…starting with the bonnar fight body to body suplex followed by the kick defense to spinning elbow..DAMN ( and no he didnt finish bonnar and yes Bader is one of the worst match ups for him stylistically(IF he can close the gap).. its gonna be good
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