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Man I'd love to see Bones on the Reem diet. =)

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by xFenixKnightx on Jan 19, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

lol BE is generous with Recs.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Jan 19, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone mentioned it in the original post

The smaller guy is the heavy weight.

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by Snatchl on Jan 19, 2011 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

photographs do not tell an entire story

i would bet that if they were standing sideways, Arlovski would be much thicker from front-to-back. I would also wager that Arlovski’s legs are much thicker. it’s the same story of the picture of Bader and Cain where Bader looks bigger.

you cant make a complete judgement based on a front-facing picture from the waist up

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re probably right about Jones and Arlovski, but Bader might actually be bigger than Cain. Bader’s ripped and Cain’s kinda chubby.

by crazybones on Jan 19, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Muscle/fat composition vis-a-vis cutting

I’ve heard somewhere that cutting from a lot of body fat is harder than a lot of muscle since you can’t dehydrate the fat like you can muscle fibers. Could Bader be the same size as Cain and just cut down since he’s leaner?

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by asa on Jan 19, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

possibly. i still think Bader is probably slightly smaller than Cain. Cain has a big ass (pause). everybody’s body makeup is different. don’t forget about bone structure, too. the one thing you definitely cant cut is bone weight.

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

And Cain has the highest percentage of cranial weight in the UFC

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by Chris Hall on Jan 19, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This ^

Only rivaled by Big Nog.

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by ChicagoMarine on Jan 19, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahaha

flash back. Man I remember everyone ragging on this guy cause of his head. lol

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by DJ Pullout on Jan 19, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t believe its not locked away in area 51. That thing is clearly an alien.

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Jan 19, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The more muscle you have the more weight you can cut.

 Our body houses water and other fluids in several different ways and places. Knowing what system you can safely dehydrate is a key principal in weight cutting. Adipose tissue(body fat) in about 10% water. Muscle on the other hand, is composed of 80% water and is one of the few tissues that can be depleted of fluids without serious health repercussions. Therefore, the more muscle you have, the more (temporally)disposable water weight you have.

Guys like Thiago Alves, Gleison Tibau, Rumble have so much muscle they can cut massive amounts of weight. They also have problems with cardio. GSP has a perfect balance. Nate Marquardt is another guy.

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by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

damn i coulda used you back during high school wrestling

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

He honestly does look chubby when compared to shredded fighters like Bader or stocky monsters like Lesnar or Carwin. He has that Fedoresque mystique about him in a way.

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by sitnam90 on Jan 19, 2011 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When you compare him to pretty much any NBA player that weighs the same, Cain does look chubby.

by JTrain007 on Jan 19, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m pretty sure there aren’t any 6’1, 240 NBA players. they’re mad skinny. NBA players who weigh 240 are usually over 6’5

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 20, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, then compare him to 6’1 NBA players. Any way you stack it, Cain is comparatively chubby

by JTrain007 on Jan 20, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Jon Jones, watch where you’re poking that thumb, you might knock someone out!

by alterbridge on Jan 19, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Pause!

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by ChicagoMarine on Jan 19, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Liddell always did it

But that’s because it was something from his original gym.

But it seems like every fighter does that thing now, and I don’t understand it.

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by Major B on Jan 19, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a Hawaii thing. Hackleman teaches Hawaiian Kempo.

by Steve4192 on Jan 19, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the Hawaiian “Shaka” or “Hang Loose” sign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka_sign

by klown on Jan 19, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Funniest user comment in ages. Nice work MMARev.

by PackMMA on Jan 19, 2011 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Guy was on mobile.. no rec’s there. I covered for his ass though

by Horselover Fat on Jan 19, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you can mobile rec with droid phones

just change the settings to allow the browser to open standard versions of pages. helps if you’re in a well populated area with good 3G signal, but it can be done

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, okay. Well, I don’t use any of that fancy stuff anyway, I still have my shitty old phone that my buddy gave to me after he found it on the train like five years ago.

by Horselover Fat on Jan 19, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Andrei arlovski and I beat the crap out of each other Andrei arlovski tonight, good times

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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jan 19, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Time to compare:



by Nick Thomas on Jan 19, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i will forever shoot down things like this.

picture #1: what shoes are they wearing? AJ has a hat and baggy shirt. front-facing pic from waist up.

picture #2: what if they are comfortable sitting differently and have adjusted their chairs to different heights? also, AJ not in training camp mode is know to blow up more than most fighters.

picture #3: Randy has an 18 inch dong that weighs a good 10lbs and softball-sized nuts that weigh about 5lbs each.

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

picture #3: Randy has an 18 inch dong that weighs a good 10lbs and softball-sized nuts that weigh about 5lbs each.

And you know this how?

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by Brian Mayes on Jan 19, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Matt Hughes’ book

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I must have skipped that page.

http://www.instrength.com

by Tim Burke on Jan 19, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

extended publisher’s cut………or……i just made it up as a joke since that picture doesn’t tell us anything new. forrest is huge and cuts a ton of weight, randy is a true LHW and has brass nutz for fighting at HW sometimes

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Never gets old

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by MrTechnique420 on Jan 19, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Pause!

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by ChicagoMarine on Jan 19, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Its funny to look at AJ and Maia and try to rationalize that Maia is a MW and AJ is a WW.

by Fedorable on Jan 19, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus Forrest is a fucking GIGANTIC LHW.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I always mistake jones’ tattoo for a watermark from a site or something..

by the guy with the big nose on Jan 19, 2011 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

If Fedor and BJ have taught us anything...

it’s that being totally jacked has nothing to do with being a great, highly skilled fighter.

Bones can definitely fight at HW someday, but there’s a long way to go at LHW before we should get too far ahead of ourselves, BE.

by PackMMA on Jan 19, 2011 2:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i still think hes a tad unproven

we’ve yet to see him respond to getting blasted in the face, some guys just cant do it

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by milk72 on Jan 19, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

good point. i totally agree.

In the wise words of Mike Tyson, “everybody’s got a plan until they get hit in the face.”

by PackMMA on Jan 19, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm going to be called crazy

But in my opinion if Jon Jones fought Anderson Silva or Shogun tomorrow I would give Jon a damn good chance of winning. I personally feel he is being held back a bit by the UFC. Now seeing him stand next to AA I can see him with the HW belt in the future.

Root for the home team jack ass

by KING FEDOR on Jan 19, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The crazier thing is...I agree with you, and

I suspect he would be somewhere in the -150 to +150 range in odds for those fights.

I am all for taking care of prospects, and even the progression of level of opponent has been okay, it just should have progressed much faster with far less down time for his (non-) recovery. He should have wrecked Maty a year ago or so…

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by The American Ronin on Jan 19, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones and Arlovski could definitely help each other out, but...

I can’t think of anything else Arlovski needs less than to start utilizing more unconventional striking. You know, like punching barrages and flying knees… but, maybe spinning elbows will yield different results than the other techniques did for Arlovski.

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by Captain Beyond on Jan 19, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

If anything, Arlovski could look into that Guida monkey dance in an effort to avoid shots to the chin.

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by Peter Nathaniel Fury on Jan 19, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

This just tells me that Arlovski should cut to 205.

by DirtyML on Jan 19, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

yup. every HW who isn’t a super-ripped 250+ should cut to 205

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

for the longest time

Arlovski was ripped as shit at 240.

Maybe Check Kongo should drop down too?

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by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely. also Mir, Schaub, Tim Sylvia and Stefan Struve. all gotta go to 205

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by eastcoastatlas on Jan 19, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine a lean, ripped Tim Sylvia

How weird would that be?

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by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

haven’t you seen the rico fight….. maybe that was too long ago to remember.

by suavemilagro on Jan 19, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He tried, but its not quite what I would call ripped.

Although he was pretty lean.

I mean Dominic Cruz/Manny Pacquaio ripped.

I just think it would be hilarious.

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by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Steroid Timmay was in pretty good shape.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Even though I disagree

Imagine the fights possible when Arvoloski was in his prime at LHW. Prime Chuck vs Prime Arvloski would of been awesome-possum

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by sitnam90 on Jan 19, 2011 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope Arlovski wins this tournament. Or at least gets a couple wins and a good showing in the final. Would be awesome. Hope he has a comeback this year.

Also, AA’s chin jokes are so lame.

by Tats16 on Jan 19, 2011 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

yeah.

since beneath his beard there is no chin… just another fist.

by suavemilagro on Jan 19, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Best of luck to AA in the Strikeforce Tourney

I miss seeing Arlovski dominate. The man used to be one of the most feared in MMA. I still think he’s got an amazing skill set and excellent hands, so I’m hoping he does well in the tourney. It’d be nice to see some solid KOs come from his fists.

by RoeNoMo on Jan 19, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Great skill set

I think either he gets poor advice or doesn’t listen to his corner. Patience would go a long way with AA.

Root for the home team jack ass

by KING FEDOR on Jan 19, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

bad defense and post-KO jitters.

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by sBruce24 on Jan 19, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too, I hope he wins it all, he was one of my favorites.

by T.C. Engel on Jan 19, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, size. I don’t really think that Brock or Carwin, as hard as they tried, could make LHW.

by T.C. Engel on Jan 19, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Poke a hole in their colon and it's on

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones will not be a LHW for long

Dude a natural HW

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

Jones said he's lost some weight and feels better

The cut was never that hard for him in the first place.

He is huge, but I think he’ll be able to maintain whatever body weight he wants. He is a professional after all.

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by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

didn

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

fact - didn't see that but I know he has said he anticipates a move to HW as his body adds muscle

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

fack* not fact. Do you think he'll stay a LHW forever?

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No,

he said he’ll be there a while though.

I’ll try and find the interview, its recent.

IIRC, he said he’s getting bigger naturally but that he has leaned down this camp and feels like he will be a LHW for a while. He said he’s below 220 right now. Like 215 or something. Maybe he is anticipating a long, brutal fight and wants to have his cardio at its max.

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by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried but I cant find it

He definitely said it though.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Jan 19, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I remember reading that now

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by Urijah Bieber on Jan 19, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think as a natural consequence of his training mixed with his age, Jones is going to add lean mass over the next 2-3 years unless he specifically trains to keep it off, sacrificing the gains in strength and power he should be making in the process…

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by The American Ronin on Jan 19, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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