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B.J. Penn, Jon Fitch, and What Happens After UFC 127

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Whether B.J. Penn wins or loses the main event bout of UFC 127, the former lightweight kingpin will still be a lightning rod for compelling fights and consideration as a contender. Jon Fitch, on the other hand, has no such guarantee – or does he? (Photo Source: Wikimedia Commons)

Dana White and the UFC have never had a problem quite like Jon Fitch. Despite five straight victories, an impressive 13 wins in the UFC overall, and a reputation as one of the sport's pound-for-pound elite fighters, Fitch is nonetheless considered an instant excuse for a bathroom break for the PPV audience. For most casual fans, watching him fight is less exciting than watching paint dry. Coca-Cola and Pop Rocks generate more fireworks than a typical Jon Fitch fight. And so far, every fighter not named Georges St-Pierre has had almost no answer for the smothering ground game of the American Kickboxing Academy star.

But, regardless of the perceived boredom, Jon Fitch meets the only criteria that really matters in MMA – wins, wins, and more wins against elite opponents.

B.J. Penn, on the other hand, has quite the opposite problem. Despite a lackluster 16-7-1 record that underscores his raw natural talent, Penn is a PPV draw and a consistent fan favorite in many of his bouts. People flock to Penn's fights to witness his lethal hands, brilliant Jiu-Jitsu, and iron chin. Dana White and Joe Silva could schedule a fight between Penn and a pack of fourth graders and it would still sell over 500,000 PPV buys. Simply put, B.J. Penn is an exciting fighter, win or lose.

If Jon Fitch beats B.J. Penn, it will undoubtedly be considered his biggest victory to date, regardless of how long (or tepid) the fight runs. But will a win at UFC 127 finally get Fitch a second crack at Georges St-Pierre? And let's ask the bigger question – what happens if B.J. Penn defeats the world's Number 2 welterweight?

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Strangely enough, it's possible neither man will get another shot at GSP. Dana White's reluctance to headline with Jon Fitch in the Octagon is a long and sordid history of "giveth and taketh away," and to be honest, Fitch hasn't shown the drastic improvement in skills that would suggest he'd have anything different to show GSP in a second fight. Despite winning six of his last seven matches, Fitch hasn't suddenly shown anything in the vein of knock-out power, flashy judo, or sneaky submissions. Instead, it's more of the same consistent (yet effective) grinding punishment that quelled the likes of Paulo Thiago, Ben Saunders, and Mike Pierce.

And in a way, that lack of development can be said of B.J. Penn.

B.J. Penn gave GSP a sound thrashing in a spirited loss the first time the two met in the Octagon, but UFC 94 was a different story. GSP battered, bruised, and bullied Penn from bell to bell after the first round, and it still remains the most methodical beating that "The Prodigy" has ever lived through. Since then, GSP has been on a dominant 9-1 run in the welterweight division, while Penn has gone a middling 2-3 over the same span of time. Granted, most of the damage to Penn's credibility is a direct result of Frankie Edgar's "hummingbird-on-crack" boxing and the two loses that they caused. But ultimately, B.J. Penn's game hasn't consistently stayed at the level that we've seen from victories over Diego Sanchez, Kenny Florian, and Sean Sherk.

As it stands, neither Penn nor Fitch have any guarantee of a rematch with GSP, and there's no reason to expect that the winner of UFC 127's main event will do anything more than wait for "Rush" to begin his ascent to the middleweight division. And that just sucks. Regardless of what happened in their last fights with GSP, those rematches are still fights that should be made, and Jon Fitch was a better candidate for that even before his UFC 127 match with Penn was made official.

After all, Georges St-Pierre said it best himself:

"It's never the same competitor. It's never the same guy. (Fitch) isn't the same guy he was when I fought him the first time. He's a much, much better [fighter]. And I'm not the same fighter I was when I fought him the first time."

At the very least, GSP recognizes that Jon Fitch has earned another shot at his belt, and may even have a new surprise or two up his sleeve. At the very worst, another GSP/Fitch fight would be another 25-minute study in how much punishment the human body can take. And at the very best, it could provide St-Pierre with his last fitting challenge in the UFC's welterweight division.

If B.J. Penn wins this next match, I could see him getting passed up for another match with GSP, considering how soundly he got beat the second time at UFC 94. But if Fitch comes out on top against the Prodigy and still doesn't get his second chance at avenging his only loss in almost eight years – that's the textbook definition of robbery. Sure, Jon Fitch bores the casual fans to death. Sure, Fitch looked like a spousal abuse victim after his first run-in with GSP. Even conceding those facts, it's my sincere hope that Dana White and Joe Silva will grant Jon Fitch the title fight that he deserves against the opponent that he wants, regardless of how much camera time Fitch's sponsors get from the back of his shorts at UFC 127.

 

[McKinley Noble is an MMA fan who got into the sport during the first season of Ultimate Fighter. When not watching MMA, he's usually playing weird video games like Kingdom Hearts and Harvest Moon. McKinley can be easily stalked on Google, but most people can talk to him over at his Twitter profile.]

Poll
What should happen after UFC 127?
B.J. Wins: Who cares what happened at UFC 94? Give him GSP.
27 votes
B.J. Wins: That last fight made it pretty clear. Give him a title shot after GSP moves up a division.
27 votes
Fitch Wins: Give him GSP!
51 votes
Fitch Wins: Make him fight Shields/Koscheck/Kampmann/Condit.
16 votes
Fitch Loses: Cut him loose.
3 votes
Fitch Loses: Make him fight Shields/Koscheck/Kampmann/Condit.
12 votes

136 votes | Poll has closed

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Can I take none of the above?

Neither one of these guys will fight GSP again. UFC is looking like they’ll probably have GSP move up if he beats Shields. There’s just no interesting challengers in the immediate horizon. The winner of Lytle/Condit has a better chance of getting a title shot than the winner of the main event. B.J or Fitch will only get a crack at the belt if GSP vacates IMO.

by Tim Koskuba on Jan 18, 2011 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

Well, I suppose?

Sure. If the UFC was going to give Paul Daley a title shot, I don’t see why Lytle or Condit wouldn’t deserve a crack at GSP by now.

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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 18, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd also take none of the above...

As I think it’s a very strong possibility NEITHER guy earns himself another a date w/ GSP. BJ’s already lost to the champ twice, and Fitch has shown no growth since his loss to GSP to show that the fight would go any differently. Regardless of GSP’s comments, I think BJ had it right when he said Fitch will come out and try to grind out a win like he always does because that’s all he’s been showing us.

If BJ wins…I have no idea what’s next. I could see him easily take a fight at 155 again, or another top WW guy.

Fitch…maybe if he were to finish BJ, that would be enough to finally get him his second title shot. But if it’s by his usual method of Fitching, he might fight the loser of GSP/Shields, the winner of Diego/Kampmann, or something like that.

by Hardcase on Jan 18, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

The UFC wants to sell PPVs and Fitch will deliver little in the way of PPV sales. I am a hardcore fan (and HS/college wrestler) and I don’t care to see it. BJ could get a shot if it wins, it would deliver PPVs which is what the fight game is all about for the ufc

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Jan 18, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If i wanted to

watch amateur wrestling, I would go watch it.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Jan 18, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If B.J. Penn won?

Given the deep waters of the WW division, I’d be excited to see him fight Shields, Condit, or even Kampmann.

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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 18, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Those would all make for some good fights.

by Hardcase on Jan 19, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP's complete dismantling of these two makes it tough to give them another shot

It’s not like Silva-Hendo or Silva-Marquardt where you think the loser was doing fine until ____ happened.

That’s what makes GSP’s wins so impressive and, unfortunately, the welterweight division rather stagnant. Whether he finishes or not, we just can’t imagine his opponent ever beating him. However, those guys aren’t falling down the ladder like Stevenson, Leites, Cote, etc. They are sticking around and handling the newcomers.

So there isn’t much choice; morever, I’ve never seen a guy earn a second title shot the way Fitch has. Not only that, but he’s the last guy to give it his all against GSP, and not go into survival mode. It would be a fitting farewell for GSP in the WW division.

by Mint on Jan 18, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

Fitch has earned another shot at GSP, regardless of how much he got beat up the first time around. It’s a sad thing to see potential PPV numbers ground his chances. If anything, the UFC should just support that title fight with a heavy main card if they’re worried about boring the crowd.

I mean, shit, it couldn’t be worse than Cro Cop/Mir.

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MBN's Current 5 Favorite Fighters: Nate Diaz / Phil "Mr. Wonderful" Davis / Miesha "Takedown" Tate / Shinya Aoki / Georges "Rush" St-Pierre

by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 18, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Fitch

and I think he should get a title shot if he beats BJ. I wanted to see Fitch vs Shields rather than Shields vs Kampmann, and give the winner of that fight the shot.

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on Jan 19, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree that would of made sense

by The Evil Dr Pork Chop on Jan 20, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It would have made sporting sense but not business sense

There’s already a problem with fans becoming less and less interested in GSP’s title defences. Realistically, Fitch v Shields would be an almost guaranteed snoozeathon which would probably make a lot of folk even less stoked to see the winner challenge for the belt.
Don’t get me wrong, that would have been the ‘fairest’ thing to do, but I can also totally see why DW swerved the idea

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by Mattyjudo on Jan 20, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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