Quote of the Day: Josh Barnett Talks Dana White
by Nick Thomas on Jan 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST
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Print"Anything to be a detriment and it's not even just with me, it's got to do with anyone that isn't UFC, (Dana White) wants to cut it down. He wants to ruin it."- Click here to watch the full episode of The MMA Hour With Werdum, Barnett, Coker, Marquardt, Walker and more.
..."His end of it is entertainment. (But when) The actual root aspect of fighting is concerned, he's is a hindrance. He's unnecessary. You don't need any of that if you talk about fighting."
..."This whole clip (of Dana White’s interview) is trying to make the UFC look better and me look bad. He is very emotional and responds off the cuff. He wanted to deteriorate Strikeforce’s image in the public eye. I think Dana White often is far over the line of being unprofessional, it's too much."
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I wish he would've said the same about banned substances instead.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions 15 recs
Barnett is so guilty he can't even stand
that video being played. He does NOT deserve to be in Strikeforce’s tournament. If there is any justice in this world, he gets knocked out first round by Brett Rogers and saves Strikeforce the grief.
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I dont care too much for Barnett so I hope the same. Plus I wanna see AA vs Rogers 2! =)
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 13, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Just imagine Barnett
winning this tournament. That’d be disaster of epic proportions for Strikeforce
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 13, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Hell yeah it would be teh suck.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 13, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
If he's being tested every fight that'll help some...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
he’s GOT to have his cycle down by now
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by cosmic fist technique on Jan 13, 2011 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
He is correct in that for pure fighting you don’t need a person like Dana. For example, if Billy Bob and Joe Bob want to have a scuffle out back of Billy Ray’s they don’t need anyone like Dana. However, if you get outside of pure fighting like say you want to have the fight on PPV and pay the fighters 6 figures each for the fight….. then you need people like Dana.
by carpediem on Jan 13, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I know its a dead horse
But is the guy with three failed tests really talking about being unprofessional?
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by Chris Hall on Jan 13, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions 11 recs
i would think
Barnett is the authority on being unprofessional, with his inability to pass pre-fight drug screens. Not trying to fighter bash, but for me to take Barnett seriously on any level, he has to do three things.
1) Pass a pre-fight drug test.
2) Get his license to fight reinstated.
3) Actually fight someone relevant.
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you forgot
showing up to the actual commission hearings 3 times.
oh, good point.
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by bobthewriter on Jan 13, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
he's only got to do 2 of those things
To fight in the SF GP. so he may be on his way to your approval
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1) won’t happen because it’s not the standard for any fighter. Post-fight will have to be passed.
2) Is going to happen.
3) he will certainly be doing so in the tournament
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Will he need to test to get his license reinstated?
That was how California got him this most recent, wasn’t it?
I think Barnett has done more to hurt MMA than Dana White. Being caught on PEDs numerous times certainly didn’t help…
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by ProfessorBLove on Jan 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yea…I’d say causing an entire promotion to collapse thanks to his inability to pass a drug test is much more of a detriment than anything White has done
by MemphisMike on Jan 13, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Well you can’t rally point the finger and put all the blame for the collapse of Afflciton on Josh Barnett’s shoulders. That ship was sinking way before that 3rd show failed.
As for Afflictions 3rd show getting canned he the one responsible for the cancellation of the 3rd show for his failed drug test. There is no doubt the 3rd show would of went along as planned if he did not fail the pre fight drug test. Thats for dam sure
Even if that 3rd show went as planned Affliction MMA would of went under sooner or later ?But who really knows what would of happend in Afflictions future if that 3rd show went as planned and the PPV buys were alright ? Maybe we could of got a few more shows out of them and the fighters could of gotten a few more fat pay days ? Who knows what the rankings land scape of MMA today would looked like also ?
All in all I am pissed still and I myself put all the blame on Barnett for the final nail in Afflictions coffin. I am really pissed that I never got to see the fight play out on that 3rd card. I still hope hopes that one day we will still see Santiago vs Belfort ? Boy was I looking foawrd to that fight and that whole card.
The idea that Dana White has "hurt" MMA at all is patently absurd
I don’t agree with everything DW says and does, but he has, by any reckoning been a huge net positive for his own company and the sport.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 13, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Now’s probably a good time to point out that being a dick and being a good businessman are not mutually exclusive.
Glad you changed the title of the article...
because my takeaway is less that Dana is a hindrance and more that Barnett is a complete hypocrite.
Love him or hate him
Dana White has done more to MMA than anyone else in history.
Yes he can be an unprofessional spiteful man, but an exciting unprofessional spiteful man lol
And I think Barnett, Sonnen, and Shamrock are the public image for PEDs use in MMA. I kinda feel sad for Barnett though because he’ll be forever associated with the fall of Affliction.
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Prick
Wow Barnett is a douche.. To Ariel Helwani, no less. I like Barnett as a fighter, but what a prick.
Josh is a joke...
It’s amazing how Josh feels he can bash other people in this sport but at the same time forget how he’s failed 3 drug tests and hasn’t faught anyone of relevance in years…
The most prolific thing he has done since 2008 is singlehandedly destroy Affliction with one drug test… and still deny’s ever taking roids….
So if anyone is a detriment to this fine sport of MMA, it’s Josh Barnett, the guy loves the attention and loves to yap, but he obvioulsy has a very selective memory as well,
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Often, those with the most glaring deficiencies rush to point out the problems in others. A famous man once said “Why do you look at the speck of dust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?”
Come on, Josh…
by Kungfucious on Jan 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Ding ding ding
Those quotes sure make it seem as if you are implying that I did not know who I was quoting.. could just be me though.
by Kungfucious on Jan 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I assumed you knew who you were quoting
people don’t usually go around reciting bible verses without having an idea of the source material.
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After all
It is kind of pretentious and self-righteous to throw out jesus quotes in the format of "Jesus says “this”, so you should do that." At least in today’s social climate.
by Kungfucious on Jan 13, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody fucks with the Jesus!
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Jan 13, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Did anyone else feel like he was being deliberately
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by spudsucker on Jan 13, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Helwani loves him some DW.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Helwani is doing a heel turn
Dana called him an idiot the other day for questioning Brock. Remember how cofield used to get all those interviews with Dana. I don’t think he is even allowed at events now :)
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by SheepleBuster on Jan 13, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
true
and when DW called him an idiot and that ‘it was the most stupid question he had ever made’, Ariel apologized immediately. DW put fears into reporters from doing their jobs, I wish Ariel wasn’t so weak.
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As long as he keeps asking them, it’s clever to play to Dana’s tune to be in a position where he can ask them. He’s only a coward if he refrains from asking the difficult questions. Being able to present and phrase them in a way that gets him access is actually part of being a good journalist.
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
given the world DW has created for the UFC where he's a dictator
I can understand him not trying to piss Dana off, so he does continue to have access to him and the UFC and keep his job. But that’s not to say it’s ‘good journalism’ though, good journalists don’t shy away from asking tough questions.
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
That’s not what I said. He did ask the question, no? As long as he asks them, it is irrelevant if he apologizes afterwards or phrases it in an especially polite fashion or whatever.
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
Yup, I doubt Jim Grey would pussy out if he asked Oscar or Top Ranks old fart owner. His name escapes me.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
i missed the question
he asked that dana shot down..
can someone fill me in please
Warning: PRIDE goggles in use
Yeah I asked Cofield on Twitter about it and he just brushed it off. Its pretty crazy.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 13, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Is this on video? I’d love to see it.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 13, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
He's far better than DW ruining things...
He ruined Afflicttion and his own career in a heartbeat. He’s the master.
Him calling Dana unprofessional would be like Dana saying Barnett needs to watch his foul language.
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Dana White’s job is to entertain us plebs while the real men (Fertitas) work behind the scenes. He’s grown to be largely unnecessary in today’s UFC.
This doesn’t mean Josh Barnett isn’t being a hypocrite.
You would know this, how?
From all the UFC board meetings you’ve sat in on?
How long have you been dana’s personal assistant? This is quite a scoop!
Anything to be a detriment and it’s not even just with me, it’s got to do with anyone that isn’t UFC
Josh is really upset at Dana White because the UFC keeps refusing to negotiate with him. I would imagine he would do a complete 180 provided there was a fat UFC contract involved. He does makes some good points but he just ruins it due to his own past actions and that in the end Josh is also very much a businessman too.
His end of it is entertainment.
Says the Japanese pro wrestler :D
I’m sure that Barnett recognizes the difference between MMA and pro wrestling. We know for damn sure that Brock does.
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by exsanguinator on Jan 14, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
At the end of the day,
Josh does Dana’s work for him, and he does it all too well…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Chael Sonnen cost the UFC Sonnen vs Silva 2
Does that mean he is a scumbag and unprofessional and will never fight in the UFC?
BOTH White and Barnett are full of shit IMO.
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by nostraboris on Jan 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Barnett tested positive 3 times
big difference…
Plus, Barnett is a pro-wrestler who has talked about being an “entertainer” for years, but now Dana is wrong for being about the “entertainment”. Guess what, the second we are not entertained…we change the channel and stop buying PPVs.
by Bob Loblaw TX on Jan 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Does that mean he is a scumbag and unprofessional and will never fight in the UFC?
1. Chael’s proved he’s a scumbag in numerous ways
2. Yes it was unprofessional
3. If Chael does it two more times then he probably will be on the outside looking in too. Of course who says Barnett will never fight in the UFC again? Just because they haven’t shown any interest in him now doesn’t mean they won’t in the future.
DW interviews are always entertaining to watch
BUT he needs to tone down his bashing of non-UFC fighters. They deserve more respect than that. Sometimes I wish UFC would stumble financially just to see DW humbled a little bit. I wondered what Fedor meant when he said UFC doesn’t treat fighters like people, but if you watch the latest list of fighters released from UFC, it gets more translucent how these fighters are treated under UFC umbrella. It’s “either you win or get ready to pack your stuff.” Think about the pressure. As much as I like and respect the UFC fighters, I kinda feel bad for them.
I actually
agree with a lot of the things Barnett said.
by Menime on Jan 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think a lot more people would if it wasn’t Barnett saying it
by simpsycho on Jan 13, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Barnett is one of my favorite fighters. Ive liked him since Pride and his anime music entrances. I could care less of his steroid use. IMO steroids dont help you win fights, in fact they make you lose fights, like how we lost Fedor vs Barnett.
Phew, thought I was gonna be the only Barnett fan here
Dunno what it is, but despite the PED busts and no-shows I can’t help but like the guy as a fighter. I’m a total mark for CaCC guys so that’s probably it…
Amyway, I for one will be rooting that Josh takes Rogers’ arm home with him and I’m pretty certain that’s exactly what he’ll do
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by Neil Manich on Jan 13, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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And not one has addressed the substance of what Josh said.
Google Ron Paul!
by CaDreamer on Jan 13, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Including this one.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 13, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Josh uses a lot of words
But doesn’t ever really say anything.
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That's what makes him a good speaker.
You’re the only person in this thread who’s said that. Most don’t see through it.
I bet of a lot of the same people on here denouncing Josh...
…are also clamouring for a Sonnen-Silva rematch and are quite happy to cheer for guys like Marquardt who’ve been busted too
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