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Nik Lentz vs. Tyson Griffin Set for UFC 123

According to mmaweekly.com:
Two very tough lightweights with wrestling pedigrees will match-up at UFC 123 in Detroit as Nik Lentz, coming off a win at UFC 118, takes on Xtreme Couture fighter Tyson Griffin. ... The bout was confirmed to MMAWeekly.com by sources close to the fight on Wednesday.

There's been no word if the fight between Lentz and Griffin will take place on the televised portion of the card or not.
Nik "The Carnie" Lentz (19-3-2)
Win Andre Winner - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 118
Win Robert Emerson - Decision (Unanimous) UFC FN 21
Draw Thiago Tavares - Draw UFC FN 20
Win Rafaello Oliveira - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 103
Tyson Griffin (14-4)
Loss Takanori Gomi - KO (Punch) UFC Versus 2
Loss Evan Dunham - Decision (Split) UFC 115
Win Hermes Franca - TKO (Punches) UFC 103
Win Rafael dos Anjos - Decision (Unanimous) UFC FN 18

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We rarely see wrestling match between two wrestlers, most of the time it’s stand and bang, and more stand and bang, followed by a crap decision.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Sep 8, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

Lentz shouldn’t be able to use his wrestling to force this one to a stall. Could actually be a fun match.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 8, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

was thinking the same thing. Joe Silva now knows that Lentz can only be matched up against superior wrestlers or the fight will be boring as shit. I’m hoping this resembles Edgar – Griffin, an all time great fight.

by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, all the people who claimed Winner had nothing to do with that fight being boring watch this one. I expect this fight will be a typical wrestler versus wrestler high-paced scramblefest.

It takes two to make a boring fight.

by Steve4192 on Sep 8, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

The Cartoon guy actually looks like Lentz.

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on Sep 8, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha!! Take that Lentz.

Put people to sleep in a nationally televised fight and they make you pay. Good luck blanketing Griffin.

by truck on Sep 8, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

I honestly think Griffin should consider WEC but yeah he’ll beat Lentz easily.

Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Its too bad about that. Who doesn’t think Griffin would be a monster at 145?

by sadface on Sep 9, 2010 2:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’ve never thought he was too small for 155. What fight made you think that?

by IWillPartyHard on Sep 9, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lentz prolly has better stand up

but griffin is going to be the better wrestler which will give him the edge

by 19Miles on Sep 8, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Lentz has nowhere near his level of standup.

And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.

by James Brady on Sep 9, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tyson is coming off two losses and will be looking to make a statement

I hope he beats Lentz after that horrible 118 performance.

Complain about Fitch and Maynard all you want but at least they complete the takedowns and do damage. As opposed to just neutralizing your opponent against the cage.

People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.

- Helen Keller

by The Blackula on Sep 8, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Lentz makes top five UFC list....

top 5 worst fights ever. I hope Tyson does to Lentz what I wanted to do to him while watching his UFC 118 fight. Woop that ass!

by Lil_Machete on Sep 8, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

The only difference is Griffin actually has a decent chance of doing it, while you would get killed in seconds.

by ufc4 on Sep 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He’s 150 and a pro fighter. Respect. But I’m 240 and in good shape. I did wrestling for all of High School and I was pretty solid at it. Size plays a big part in wrestling. Some of my freinds are pro fighters and others working their way up. They could teach me enough to get by while I use my size to wear him out with my wrestling. He would win most of the time but I would have a solid chance.

by Lil_Machete on Sep 8, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played sir. Lentz is no Huerta though so…… I never said I would win. I just said I would have a small chance with my wrestling and bigger size.

by Lil_Machete on Sep 8, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

^This

I still can’t figure out how he won the fight by FAILING to complete a takedown for 2 rounds

by Chris Hall on Sep 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t start that, you’ll get Anton all riled up aboot Couture/Vera again.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by Sam Cupitt on Sep 9, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well shit, let’s see if Griffin can drag a good fight out of anybody.

by BVandDietPepsi on Sep 8, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

If an englishman can defend your takedown, you are going to be in trouble against the higher level guys at 155.

Its only going to get harder as he progresses and I doubt his striking or subs will be enough to save him.

People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.

- Helen Keller

by The Blackula on Sep 8, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

the very fact that he chose to wrestle meant he won (see Couture-Vera).

Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...

by frosnt1 on Sep 8, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am still confused on this

Machida vs Shogun 1 = Machida defended Shoguns takedowns and was seen as the successful grappler.

Couture-Vera = Randy pinned Vera against the cage but couldn’t get or keep Vera down, and was seen as the successful grappler.

Which one is correct? Does neutralizing your opponent make you the aggressor or does stopping the takedown = effective grappling?

People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.

- Helen Keller

by The Blackula on Sep 9, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neither is effective grappling. You have to stop looking for consistency among judges – they’re fucking stupid.

"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn

by crazybones on Sep 9, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

effective

It’s a tricky word. I’m not sure there’s an answer. Effective striking means hitting people. Effective grappling is more elusive.

Use more judges.

by MasonA on Sep 9, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Griffin can’t get an entertaining fight out of him, then I don’t think anyone can.

by dpk875 on Sep 9, 2010 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

So the way I have 123 right now is

Definitely televised:
Rampage-Machida
Lauzon-Sotiropoulos

Definitely preliminary:
Ruediger-Kelly

In Limbo:
Parisyan-Hallman
Griffin-Lentz
Brown-MacDonald
Davis-Boetsch

About right?

by BVandDietPepsi on Sep 9, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's hoping that

Davis-Boetsch and Griffin-Lentz make the television cut…

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer

Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...

by BigDNotDallas on Sep 9, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brown-Macdonald will be aired, that is an exciting fight. Davis-Boetsch will be aired too because the winner will start to be relevant in the division.

I don’t think they put Karo on TV, because of his history, he has to prove he will show up and deliver first.

by dpk875 on Sep 9, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is either Tyson’s bounce back fight or his swan song, he’s been a huge disapointment since he’s become obssessed with striking and losing to Lentz will be the end of his UFC career.

"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/76866807deabe3c1/

by Nightwhistler on Sep 9, 2010 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was saying that if Griffin lost another fight, he wouldn’t be out of the UFC. But if it’s against Lentz … well, yeah, he’s done.

He won’t lose, though.

And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.

by James Brady on Sep 9, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will be attending 123 in Detroit, and have seen rumors of Jon Jones fighting, any conformation from anyone? will be attending no matter what, but def. a plus. Oh yeah, what if u like rampage but know machida will win? who do u root for? lol

blumpkin king

by blumpkins on Sep 9, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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