Todd Duffee Comments on Being Cut by the UFC
by Kid Nate on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT
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"Emotionally, I'm hurt," Duffee said. "I'm hurt more than anything because I don't know why. As a man, you just want to hear why so you can understand."
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"They had talked about me fighting Madsen," Duffee said. "I asked if I could get some time.
"I had a knee injury going into the Russow fight. I'm not making any excuses because I lost that fight, and all props to Mike, but I definitely feel like it affected my gameplan and my mentality going into the fight. I didn't want that to happen again with Madsen. I wanted to be able to go out there and fight to my full potential instead of just boxing, basically. I asked for more time, and as far as I knew, they had granted it to me."
"I've lost a lot of things this year," Duffee said. "I went from losing the biggest fight of my life to losing my dad two weeks later to losing my best friend a week after that. I lost a coach, and now I've lost my job. At this point, it isn't the worst thing that could ever happen to me. There are people who would kill to be in my situation, and I just have to stay positive and keep moving forward - tuck your chin and keep moving forward.
Duffee also said that he was happy with the terms of his contract and expected to complete the two remaining fights. He wants to return to action late this year and fight as much as possible in hopes of a quick return to the UFC. He is also considering returning to college.
This certainly has been an abrupt change in fortune for the young fighter. We wish him the best.
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bet you guys all feel like dicks for the duffee jokes now eh? :P
by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 8, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hindsight is 20/20
And I feel fine with what I said. My comments were based off of the information that was available to me at the time.
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by Damon O. on Sep 8, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yeah,
I don’t feel bad.
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If I were defensive
I’d have gone all subo on you.
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by Damon O. on Sep 8, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Whining like Friday night sissie fights?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I can’t wait until I don’t have any more piece of shit organizations to complain about anymore
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
so just to clarify, if by the off chance you used a “your mother” joke on someone only to find out later that their mother died recently, you wouldn’t feel like a dick? yes I know this is hyperbole.
by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 8, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
As stated earlier
I base my actions off of the information that is available to me at the time.
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I love that I'm now a verb.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You can only aspire to the status of "fuck" in the vernacular...
Noun (proper, plural, possessive), verb, adjective…no part of speech is spared…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll suboing subo that subo subo.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Now we're getting somewhere...
Rec’d
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha I know the feeling
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
wow that really sucks
All of that piling up on him is terrible, I wish him the best of luck
by majuca8 on Sep 8, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No mention of the movie.....has that been confirmed?
GSP is an alien sent here to humiliate our men and mate with our women
I hope not
Such a movie sequel sounds like an affront to humanity.
Movie was a joke...
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by William Wilson on Sep 8, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
im still confused by this
dana doesnt cut guys like this usually, theres gotta be something else to it
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
by milk72 on Sep 8, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dana not doing something wrong? Unpossible
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
business wise dana doesnt usually screw up
this seems like a screw up to me, duffees marketable
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
I think they screw up all the time, but since the long term trend is in their direction, we tend to view everything as being positive. For example:
-Not having Faber in the UFC when he had the belt was a mistake in my opinion.
- Having Toney fight Couture.
- booking Anderson Silva vs Damian Mai in front of their new partners.
- booking Dan Henderson on TUF and against Bisping at UFC 100 when he only had one-fight left on his contract. What a waste of exposure on a fighter that ended up leaving.
- Dana’s youtube harangue on Hunt was horrible PR wise.
- Cutting Fitch and threatening to do so with the other AKA guys over not signing away their image rights.
All were fuck-ups. All get ignored because the overall trajectory is moving their way.
It's not the trajectory
It’s the fact that for every thing they do wrong, they do about 150 correctly, with no friction.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The wrongs are not catastrophic, that’s for sure.
They wisely put off short term gain for long term gain and growth.
If Dana could just be a little less petty, we’d all be good…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll never please his detractors
Abandoning that cause was probably a pretty good call.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
He’ll learn to be a bit more PC, at least in his public and PR stuff, for the good of the sport.
Overall he does an excellent job, and if you don’t rule something like the UFC with an iron fist, you get Strikeforce…
Occasionally the innocent suffer, but every large undertaking has some collateral damage…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC has something no one else – and it’s not Dana – it’s a huge share of the market. They are rolling in revenue while others are fighting to survive. It goes a long way to explaining why all the problems they had pre-TUF (champs leaving, cards being cancelled, production being a joke) are no longer there.
And that is not a criticism of the UFC or a hidden jab. That’s just the truth. Money is really the cure for a lot of life’s problems.
That is very true
They have the luxury of working with an eye on the big picture and a view toward the long run.
Much of this helps, like a tide, to lift all of the boats. Things such as making inroads and getting approvals into more states and more countries.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
EliteXC & Bodog both had money. Tons of it. They both burned through $50 million in their first year. Money doesn’t cure stupid.
True, but having money and making money are two different things. Look at how the UFC was doing pre-TUF. They had a recognizable brand that sold 300,000 ppv before they bout it and were struggling to sell over 100,000 and were reportedly $30 or $40 mil in the hole until they were forced to do a reality show. Without TUF and Spike they might not have made it either. And their success now makes it even harder and more expensive for anyone else trying to get into the game.
But Bodog, Elite XC, and Affliction were all run by idiots. no argument here.
Nobody said it does (though I’d argue corruption was the problem, as they certainly didn’t pay much of that $50M to the fighters). But it does help you maintain a monopoly over an equally capable competitor.
As long as no-one is willing to challenge them for restraint of trade, nobody can compete with the UFC.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It could....
Also have to do with his track record.
He fought Sept 08, Sept 09 & May 10. Hardly and active fighter. He could be snake bitten with injuries, he could just be training poorly.
If you want to complain about being broke, I think you need to put more “full time” in front of that fighter. Make 8-12k for a match then win bonus on top of that but only fighting twice in two years doesn’t pay the bills. Mebbe Dana felt he had more than enough “time” up to this point.
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Can the UFC just cut fighters like that?
I mean, he still has two fights on his contract. How does that work?
They can cut you after you lose at pretty much any time.
If you want to hear my opinion on Les Miles go to BJPenn.com.
So UFC-contracts have some sort of losing clause.
“If the fighter loses a bout, the remaining fights in his contract can be cancelled by the UFC”?
So my question remains: how can the UFC cut people just like that, without having to answer for a breach of contract?
Answer to whom? A union? Hahahaha
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
NFL has a Union
NFL can cut players.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Don't confuse him with facts
That would get in the way of his cynical hate of all things UFC management related.
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Other sports the orgs. still have to pay some to all of the salaries
MMA usually isn’t like. UFC contracts are certainly not like that.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
The NFL doesn't have to pay them anything
Which is why players try to front load their contracts with garunteed money in the form of signing bonusses.
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by Worldisart on Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Right
In sports with a union it depends on the collective bargaining agreement. NBA teams need to put up a buyout, but NFL teams can cut a player at their discretion. If the UFC had a union, this is likely not something that would change.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Yep
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Signing bonuses and guaranteed money are paid in the NFL
However you are correct that standard contracted salary isn’t paid to to a cut NFLer.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
And they can be cut at any time for any reason.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not just the NFL.
In baseball the cut rookies and certain veterans (NRIs) any time they want without paying them either. Ditto for the NBA and veterans on 10-day contracts. Every sports league has a mechanism in place for cutting loose guys who are on the fringes.
You can't compare a 10 day contract to getting straight up cut
If you get cut in the NBA, you get paid. Same in baseball once you’re an established player.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You are partially right
They do have the ability to effective release people with long term contracts, but only by buying the contracts out. MLB and NBA contracts are guaranteed.
NFL players have only part of their contracts guaranteed, even for the most elite of players.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They still get the guaranteed money
Something most in the UFC don’t get.
Among the other things.
I’m not championing for a union. It’s a dumb thing to want because it’ will never happen.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and it’s going to be interesting to see how this all plays out in the next few years. Labor deals are expiring, and people aren’t enjoying paying people to do nothing when they aren’t useful anymore.
Owners in the other sports have made mention about getting rid of guaranteed contracts, it’s going to be interesting to see how things play out.
Guaranteed money isn’t going anywhere. At least, in the NFL, because that’s my specialty.
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fun news just in from the nfl today. Dan Orlovsky had a contract that said the Lions had to pay him 2.25 million dollars this season. today his contract says he will get paid 850,000 with a 25k bonus for every game he is the official backup qb.
Contracts changing and money disappearing is not limited to the UFC.
NFL players also have guaranteed money they can fall back on if they get cut
And 31 other teams
And pensions
And health insurance
And minimum salaries
I could go on.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
I hate the stupid “The NFL does the same” excuse.
It’s a joke that the UFC can cut a contract short whenever they want, but a fighter can’t leave his contract to work somewhere else.
Imagine if a company could hire you for some fixed wage, tells you that you can’t accept any better jobs somewhere else for two years (even though you don’t have any IP or trade secrets), and yet can still fire you for any reason they want. People would actually accept this with all the unemployment nowadays, but it’s illegal.
My example most certainly is illegal
At least in every developed country outside America. I’ve seen this first hand in my family. A company tried to prevent a relative from working in the same field after firing him if he wanted his compensation, but after getting a lawyer the company buckled.
I’m pretty sure it’s illegal in America, too:
http://www.google.com/search?q=restraint+of+trade
It's fair because it was voluntarily agreed to by both sides.
Zuffa just has more leverage because of the UFC’s brand identity.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Ever heard of labor laws?
You think a voluntary contract to pay someone $2/hour is legal?
You think a voluntary contract to make someone your slave in return for food and a room is legal?
Hmmm, maybe I’m seeing things too much from a Dutch perspective. In my country employees who have a contract can’t be fired at will… Their are protected by certain laws from their whimsical employers.
A contractor isn't restricted from providing services to someone else
That would be “restraint of trade”, which is illegal.
Several regular employment contracts in the corporate world and among lots of other job types are like that in America as well. The employee has to do something to be terminated or be bought out of their contract.
Welcome to the world of "at will" employment
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's up there with the "Clear Skies" and PATRIOT Acts
that allowed companies to pollute and the US government to spy on its own citizens. George Orwell would be proud.
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Without “at will” employment there would be a lot less jobs out there. It also gives employees the right to quit whenever they want. Of course “at will” employment has nothing to do with the UFC since they hire fighters as independent contractors, meaning all the terms are laid out in the contract. Most employees don’t have contracts with their company, and as such are “at will” employees.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Answer to whom? A union? Hahahaha
Lawyers.
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 8, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
this is America, employers have all the power, employees none.
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by some schmuck in texas on Sep 8, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
employees can quit whenever they want, just like employers can fire them whenever they want. They have the same power in that regard.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that is absurdly disingenuous
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by some schmuck in texas on Sep 8, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Except UFC fighters don't have that right either
If the fighter doesn’t like his contract because he’s being underpaid (i.e. someone else will pay them more), he’s stuck with the UFC.
If the UFC doesn’t like the contract because the figher is underperforming, they can fire him.
UFC contracts go against everything that America stands for.
They are clearly worded much like NFL contracts, with certain parts perhaps guaranteed and the rest not. Its basically a one-sided deal favoring the UFC, as would be expected.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC
Does not offer guaranteed contracts to anyone. I don’t believe Strikeforce or any of the other promotions do either.
Play Hard, Train Harder
That's the important part
These aren’t guaranteed contracts, the UFC can basically do what they want when they want.
by ufc4 on Sep 8, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Strikeforce contracts are fine
because they let the fighter fight elsewhere and let them quit. They don’t try to own the fighters like the UFC does.
Ever heard of restraint of trade? Or labor law?
Non-compete clauses are illegal except when trade secrets or IP is involved. With the NFL, NBA, etc, a player is bound to a team because of an agreement among the team owners. They can go leave for another league if they want, and occasionally they do.
that’s not what’s funny, what’s funny is your asinine claim about strikeforce.
Jake shields has publicly stated he wanted to go to the UFC since Elite XC died, did Strikeforce let him go?
They extended Kaufman’s contract via the champions clause without even telling her. Joe Riggs sat on the bench for 8 months waiting for the last fight on his contract, unable to take fights in other orgs because SF kept dangling fights in front of him that never materialized, and then when they finally gave him a real fight they made him sign a special 1 fight contract because it was a challengers card and he was getting a cut of the gate.
In mma the player is bound to the org because of an agreement between the player and the org, if you don’t want to be stuck with zuffa, go pray that dream decides they want to pay you or that shine doesn’t’ cancel the card 20 minutes before it starts.
Jake Shields has always been free to fight in the UFC, just like Overeem is free to fight in DREAM, K1, Golden Glory, etc.
Jake Shields’ problem is that the UFC would not hire him until he has no more obligations to Strikeforce. Similarly, the UFC can put together the Brock-Fedor fight whenever they want. They simply refuse to do so until they can prevent Fedor from fighting elsewhere.
They wouldn’t let him quit from strikeforce, which you said they did. None of that fedor bullshit has any bearing on anything else in this line of conversation.
The contract is basically giving the rights to the promotion based on an agreed payment for services. The promotion also has the right to terminate the contract after a loss. There may be some stipulations about a buy out for termination after a win but I don’t think there is in most cases. The promoter can basically let someone out of their contract whenever they want if they’re not under a fight agreement. There may also be some stipulations for injuries. I am sure there is also some stipulations that force the promotion to book a fight so they can’t just keep someone under contract and not let them fight.
Scott Coker on line one…
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 8, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Coker
“So Todd, I heard you lost your last fight and got cut by the UFC. Would you like to fight Overeem?”
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by DayGeaux on Sep 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Scott Coker
“Oh wait, Bob Sapp just called me and said he wants the fight after the beats Minowa for the belt.”
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 8, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sapu ain’t beating Minowa
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It baffles me to no end
how this comment has been greened in hundreds of articles. Fighter loses, lame commenter says, “go to Strikeforce and get a title shot”.
It’s the “Did he die?” of the MMA world…
People do all the time
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
it's one thing to turn down a fight
but you don’t publicly complain about what the UFC is paying you, nor do you bash them on internet websites and/or twitter. that’s just stupidity at it’s best
Where did he bash the UFC
Or complain about pay?
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
I hadn't seen that
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
i'm working on finding them now
as of now i am only relying on what i’ve been reading all afternoon. apparently he openly complaining about being broke and was looking for work, or at least asking the internet community for part time jobs……allegedly
He did post on his twitter that he was broke and asked if anyone knew of any part time work, it was up as a fanshot not too long ago
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
I wouldn't really consider that bashing the UFC
Like, at all.
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
either would i
also, i just listened to the entire interview he had w/Jordan Breen, that took place before the Russow fight. Apparently Todd likes to talk “tongue in cheek” and enjoys “trolling,” so I don’t think that anyone can take any of what he tweeted or may have said on the UG forum in all seriousness. so, i guess i’m back to square one, and still confused as hell as to why he was released.
You gotta remember, MIKE RUSSOW knocked him out with one of the most sissiest punches i've ever seen.
hes the prime example of when head-hunting goes wrong.
OKAY.. maybe the two that sent him down weren't, but the hammerfist, yes.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 8, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Those hammer fists were just academic
Home boy was out cold
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
oh no doubt, but the hammerfist cancels out any enthusiasm I had for the KO, it was just that pitiful.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 8, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude was completely rocked and falling with that first punch, and the second one compounded that. He was already out by the time he followed up with the sissy hammerfist. It should be noted that the last strike of Nate Marquardt’s Tekken 10-Hit Super Combo to Wilson Gouveia was an even sissier hammerfist (which hardly mattered at that point as in both cases I think they were thinking “should I really hit this guy? I think he’s already done”).
I do believe Russow's left hand was broken at that point
Thus the right hands and weak hammerfist. Crazy comeback!
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He could have planted a flower behind his ear for all I care
Who cares, Duffee was already out cold.
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The fuck?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That was 2 pretty good shots
Not pretty, but appeared to have landed cleanly.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Just feels like there's more to this story.
Dana doesn’t give up on a guy like Todd just because.
Stupid move Dana. Keep bolstering your competitions HW divisions to prove youve got a penis, the fans and the fighters will only benefit.
Duffee will save Strikeforce!
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt, Todd Duffee brings the type of big time name recognition that can really push a promotion into the spotlight.
by ufc4 on Sep 8, 2010 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The article says he hopes for a quick return to the UFC, doesn’t sound like he is interested in Strikeforce. Also, word is he turned down the Madsen fight to film Never Back Down 2, and the UFC didn’t take too kindly to that.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Entirely possible. That was the reason that has made the most sense. If it’s something else, I’m even more intrigued. Maybe another crappy Hector Echavaria movie?
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He wants to return to action late this year and fight as much as possible in hopes of a quick return to the UFC. He is also considering returning to college.
Fighting as much as possible whilst going back to college is pretty ambitious. Sounds more like a fork in the road. Good luck, Duffee.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
he actually shouldn’t, thats what got him knocked out…
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Ultimately
I think he made a couple mistakes inside and outside of the octagon.
- Head-hunting
- Making the UFC look cheap and responsible by speaking openly about his financial status (after coming off a loss)
Dana is a troll when it comes to that shit, especially on Twitter. Duffee needs to find a good manager (once he can afford one) who can teach him about PR.
We don't know what happened
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Right, I was just giving my opinion of what I think he did that could of maybe contributed to the cut, but like you said were still not sure yet.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be awfully petty if that was why they cut him. With the headhunting, if you punish a guy who lost a fight he was winning due to his attempts at a highlight reel finish, you send the wrong message. If you want fighters to fight to win and go for finishes, don’t punish them because it doesn’t work out one time.
And bitching about being broke may reflect less than spectacularly on the UFC, but doesn’t seem worth cutting a guy for. If Dana felt he had to make some sort of a statement, he could just note that he offered Duffee a fight and Duffee didn’t take it.
Not saying you’re wrong, just that it’s pretty lame if that’s the case.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
this doesn't come close
to explaining why his own manager called him an ass, to the media!
Turned out to be a text-o typo…Asset, yeah, yeah, that’s what I meant…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
He received the first half of the text, Tweeted it, then got the rest.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well played sir!
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually saw that earlier on another post
But my comments, and probably many others, are gone…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF?
Must have gotten slapped by somebody’s lawyers…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is crazy
Duffee has so much potential, and his knockout loss only made me more interested to see what he would do next. Whatever their reason, UFC is missing a big oppurtunity here.
I'm guessing
Duffee films Never Back Down 2, takes a fight in a regional promotion, wins, and then is back in the UFC. Pretty sure they wanted to make a quick example out of him for turning down a fight to film a shitty movie. If a marketable prospect like Duffee isn’t immune, no one is.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Um
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gotta love the “I’m not making excuses but I wouldve won if my knee wasn’t hurt” excuse.
by ufc4 on Sep 8, 2010 8:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Except that’s not what he said at all. I don’t understand this attitude, why is it so wrong for fighters to speak about injuries or other things that might have contributed to the way they fought? Isn’t that the kind of stuff we want to hear about?
Here’s the quote:
“I had a knee injury going into the Russow fight. I’m not making any excuses because I lost that fight, and all props to Mike, but I definitely feel like it affected my gameplan and my mentality going into the fight.”
Don’t see him saying he would have won.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 9, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
So
is Duffee the new fighter to arbitrarily hate? Does this mean I can say I’m a Shane Carwin fan again? The parellels for me lie in the suddent pointless turning on a fighter lie in the events leading up to the steroid “scandal”(people report on scandals more frequently usually) and not following. i.e. blasting someone for out of context tweets, etc.(one example is enough for you to understand this etcetera)
I post on some basketball message board and when I first started there I would defend players from being called “idiots”, “thugs”, etc. based off of pure assumptions but quickly learned my lesson when I was bombarded by people calling me naive (at least that’s what I gathered from “ur stupid” and the like) or suffering from white guilt.
If I tried to defend Duffee and Carwin would I be accused of weak guilt? Fuck I’ll just add an image of a cute animal.
perception is reality
by Marvin Malehooves on Sep 9, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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