George Sotiropoulos vs. Joe Lauzon in the Works for UFC 123
by Nick Thomas on Sep 8, 2010 10:06 AM EDT
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According to mmamania.com:
There's a fantastic lightweight match-up brewing between up-and-coming division prospects Joe Lauzon and George Sotiropoulos, as the Ultimate Fighter (TUF) veterans are currently in talks to throw down at the upcoming UFC 123 pay-per-view on Nov. 20 in Auburn Hills, MI.
MMAmania.com confirmed the pending match-up earlier today.
George Sotiropoulos (13-2)
Win Kurt Pellegrino - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 116
Win Joe Stevenson - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 110
Win Jason Dent - Submission (Armbar) UFC 106
Win George Roop - Submission (Kimura) UFC 101
Joe "J-Lau" Lauzon (19-5)It look's like the news from the Sydney Morning Herald of George Sotiropoulos possibly facing BJ Penn or Kenny Florian was incorrect.
Win Gabe Ruediger - Submission (Armbar) UFC 118
Loss Sam Stout - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 108
Win Jeremy Stephens - Submission (Armbar) UFC FN 17
Win Kyle Bradley - TKO (Punches) UFC FN 15
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Going to be a sick fight for sure
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
sick fight
but does this give sot a title shot with a win?
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Fuck no.
Lauzon’s loss to Stout is way too fresh to let either guy have a title shot off of this win. Sot needs to go through a name like Maynard (or Edgar pending the outcome of that fight)/Penn/Florian before he’s getting a title shot.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 8, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
thats what i was thinking
but im kinda thinking sots gonna get it anyway if he wins, who else is more deserving?
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Why?
Why should the UFC squash potential contenders by putting them in against fighters who would be favored against them? If Maynard or Edgar were to face the winner and win, you’ve just completely snuffed out a potential contender for a fighter who’s already had his crack at the belt and probably doesn’t warrant another one so soon.
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The reason why is because decisioning 3-4 gatekeepers is not equivalent to beating one legitimate, proven talent and doesn’t lend itself to a good title fight. For evidence of this see your beloved GSP vs. Hardy.
"Sometimes hype just ain't enough." - Jens Pulver on his win over BJ Penn
by lowellthehammer on Sep 8, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The champ needs to fight someone
And you can’t kill contenders having him fight someone who’s already had his crack and won’t gain anything from the victory. If you have to insist on another fight put him up against a Dunham or something, at least in that scenario you walk away with someone who can fight for the title regardless of who wins.
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…so instead of having either prospect step up in competition to figure out where they rank in relation to the rest of the division, you’d rather have one eliminate the other and still have no idea where they fall in regards to the established upper tier? You’re right, that makes a ton of sense.
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by lowellthehammer on Sep 8, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It does make sense
It’s a legitimate number 1 contender fight where either guy can lay a legitimate claim to a title shot. You may burn one contender but you’re guaranteed of having someone to fight for the title. What happens if neither one can get by an Edgar or a Penn? Then you have no one to fight your champion. How does that make anymore sense?
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Plus, if it’s a number one contender match, the loser doesn’t need many fights to get himself back into the running. This also sets up the possibility of a rematch.
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by Ephemeral Artery on Sep 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point!
I think this fight would be a great one, but I certainly think that the UFC is prolonging Sot’s rise to contender status.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 8, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that this is not scripted
If Hardy fought Koscheck instead of Fitch (and Kos fought him instead of Rumble), then there’s a good chance that he would lose and we’d have nobody for GSP to fight.
With Swick-Hardy, a win by either would be good enough to grant a title shot (and by that I mean create an illusion that he has a chance).
You can’t make every contender go through the #2 or #3 guys, because then you’d have very few contenders. WW is a horrible division for making compelling high end matchups, because Fitch so clearly dominates everyone in the division except GSP, and GSP destroyed Fitch.
Kos would take fight if they ever fought...
WW will be exciting again soon enough, once GSP disposes of Shields after Kos some of the new talent with high (and rising) level MMA Wrestling will be getting seasoned enough (Askren, Hendricks) to keep it entertaining…one of those guys will eventually displace GSP as he did Hughes, unless GSP moves up sooner rather than later.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't sleep on the hitman!
As far as i remember we haven’t seen Kampmann get neutralized by a wrestler, so Shields is not a lock to win this.
Don’t sleep on the other Hitman either…. Too many damn hitmen imo!
I agree
Martin’s ground game seems to get contineously underestimated, and Shields, while formidable, does not posses nearly the sort of elite takedown ability that a GSP has – if Kampmann can stuff him, even some of the time, this could get ugly fast…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Just to take my line of thinking further...
Say Maynard beats Edgar, then Edgar goes on to beat Sot. You’re now in a position where you have a champion who’s beat the seeming number 1 contender twice. You’ve got Penn who’s lost twice to the guy that the champion beat twice. You’ve got Florian who’s so far out of the title picture by that point he’s not even worth discussing as a contender. Maybe you have Dunham if he beats Sherk, but by your logic he should have to beat Edgar or Penn, two fighter who can’t get near the belt themselves.
Who does the champion fight in the interim? Do we put him on the shelf indefinitely just because of some insistence that Sot have to beat someone who already had his shot at the title?
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Am I really supposed to take this seriously? Too many hypotheticals and variables to even bother. Suffice it to say that the answer to making things interesting in the division is not to give guys that have been fighting middle of the road competition a sudden boost to the top just because you’re afraid they won’t do well against the upper tier fighters. If that’s the case, they probably shouldn’t be fighting for the belt anyways.
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by lowellthehammer on Sep 8, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not at all what I'm saying
What I’m saying is don’t make number 1 contender fights where only one guy is going to get a title shot. Why should Maynard or Edgar be put back in a number 1 contender fight right after losing a title fight? How does that make any sense?
And cut the condescending crap please, we can have a discussion without resorting to being assholes.
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Possibly...
It depends on how the fight goes and who else wins. A win over Penn or Florian would have been way more impressive.
great fight!
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by The Omaplatapus on Sep 8, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions
however i thought Gsot was higher in the mix then this.
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by The Omaplatapus on Sep 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Great match making
However it looks to me like they’re doing their best to protect a G-Sot title shot in Sydney next winter, short of giving him a complete softball of a fight.
If J-Lau wins, where does this put him?
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I’d say he’d get an opportunity at a subsequent #1 contender fight. Possibly against the winner of Sherk/Dunham.
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by Blackout612 on Sep 8, 2010 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Awesome fight
But does anyone else think that J-Lau has thus far gotten a pass on the competition he’s had to beat to get to where he is? Out of 5 UFC wins, two of the guys he’s beaten (J. Stephens and Ruediger) are still in the UFC. I mean, the guy lost to Sam Stout in his last fight, and now he’s fighting G-Sot who is coming off of 2 very high quality wins? Someone in the UFC is doing J-Lau some favors
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Or doing so a favor…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Me either.
I kinda wish they gave Lauzon another fight or two to build off of. I think Sot takes him here.
I thought for sure we were gonna see Lauzon vs. Guida as the next UFN main event
but I guess this makes sense too
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The flip side
Is that if Lauzon wins it will catapult him right into the mix.
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This is true. I am a big Lauzon fan,
but I don’t really see him having an advantage on the feet or on the ground
my sentiments exactly
although i’m hoping he can pull this one out. where does that leave BJ though? and/or Florian? I was kinda hoping for a Sot/Florian fight but i’ll take this
Florian is in a bad spot right now
Tough to make fights for him, you don’t want to put him in with contenders simply because Kenny gains nothing and you burn a potential contender. I think Kenny is going to get a bit of a gimme in his next fight.
As for Penn… Gomi, Gomi, Gomi, Please Gomi…..
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Dos Anjos would be good, Etim maybe. Kenny’s really beaten a large portion of the division so it’s tough to make fight for him right now.
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Ken Flo vs Guillard would be fun.
Good fight for both guys. If Kenny can get past him, then do Kenny vs Sherk and see if he has beefed up his wrestling.
If Kenny looses to Guillard, then Guillard truly has his shit together and is an exciting contender.
This ^
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 8, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
C+ or better sub game> Guillard
(maybe Team Jackson can turn that around)
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Guillard isn't easy to take down
Well, unless he gets sloppy. He has all the physical tools. If he gets past Stephens, I want to see what he can do against legit competition. He has looked good since joining team Jackson and he has been there for about a year now. I think Kenny would be a fun matchup.
I hope he’s matured. Rich Clemente showed it’s not hard to get into Melvin’s head and make him mess up.
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Jackson doesn't work miracles
"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity" -Henry Miller-
Tyson Griffin, Jim Miller, Nate Diaz, etc.
No shortage of credible opponents in the UFC LW Division for Florian. But obviously, he is not on the level of Maynard, Edgar or Penn.
Florian and BJ gotta rebuild
Neither guy should be fighting for a title in their next two or three fights. Fighting guys like Sherk, Stevenson, Gomi and Guida who aren’t in the title picture makes the most sense.
This makes sense
Penn and Florian rebuilding. Let’ see some fresh storylines at the top of lightweight before the get the chance to reenter the picture.
by dribblebib on Sep 8, 2010 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know
I think he’s the stronger, better athlete of the two and sometimes those physical advantages can make the world of difference.
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I think Lauzon has the physical advantages
We’ll see if that can win him the fight but I definitely wouldn’t count him out of this fight by any stretch of the imagination.
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I won't completely count him out either. He is one of my favorite fighters,
but watching Stout beat him in such one sided fashion did take a little bit of the shine off. Will he be able to get Sot down? Will he be able to do what Stevenson and Pellegrino couldn’t? Will he be able to hold his own on the feet? I’m not sure.
Jeez if talks of a Sot title in Aus are true, they’re really giving him an easy road. This has Sot by dominant top control written all over it.
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by shotokai_ on Sep 8, 2010 10:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sot vs. Bj would have been great. I like J-lau, but I think he gets out-classed by George.
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Completely agree. It looks like they’re feeding Sot with Lauzon. I would’ve preferred to see Sot. fight Florian or BJ. I don’t see what Sot can get out of winning this fight. It’s a gimme fight for him and if he loses it’ll be a terrible blow.
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I look at it kind of like I did JDS-Nelso
At first I was like wtf, but upon reflection it made sense as an exciting, although likely one-sided fight. And, like with JDS, if he loses, he is not who we thought he was…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
This fights going to be nutty. But its a bit left field.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Dude probably picked against him as far back as Stevenson and can’t get on board now.
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by Blackout612 on Sep 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know if he’s better, but he is different.
Those guys are cookie cutter North American wrestler/BJJ hybrids.
Joe has a wacky grappling style that looks more like your typical Japanese grappler than what we are used to seeing in North America. He’s not afraid to drop for leglocks or go for flashy but dangerous moves like a fireman’s carry.
Wow
Rampage/Machida was enough to make me go, since it’s long been one of my dream fights, but they’re really stacking the deck it seems. Met Lauzon and he’s a very cool d00d, but I’ve been a Sotiropoulos supporter since day one. Future champ? I think so.
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by Blackout612 on Sep 8, 2010 10:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Word. Soon George will be getting Puji Money!
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by Barack Lesnar on Sep 8, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like a step down for Sot
either A) its an “easy” win so he can fight for the belt in Australia or B) Silva thinks a lot higher of JLau than we do.
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 8, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
We? Do you have a midget in your pocket?
Lauzon is not an easy win for about anyone and many of us think Joe is a potential contender. A lauzon win wouldn’t surprise me at all.
That said, excellent fight.
I think Lauzon is a potential contender but
I still think this is a slight step down for Sot. Then again, Penn and Florian are really the only steps up available and the UFC obviously has other plans for them.
And is it just me, or does the UFC seem more willing to pit their contenders against each other recently? May be out of necessity, but they seem to be putting together a lot more “eliminator” style fights.
I think the UFC is secretly running multiple contender brackets most of the time.
Just in case one guy loses or puts on a boring fight.
I suspect the same
Much like they simultaneously tracked Cain/Carwin/JDS at HW (although with the shallowness they couldn’t afford to burn one), and much like I thought Jones / Bader / Davis were being treated (not so apparently, unless their opinion of Bader is considerably less than the internets).
Jones I can somewhat understand, given his age, but I am still not sure why they are slow-tracking Sot though.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Just like Maynard and Edgar running in different brackets at the end.
Sot being unlikely to fight Dunham and Hardy getting a shot without fighting a true top guy. Condit and Kampmann probably won’t fight Fitch or Alves just in case. They also do a great job of keeping their options open at LHW, but that is an easy one because of the abundance of talent.
I agree
HW and MW, those are the areas where they have to protect guys, just to be able to put on credible title fights consistently.
I’m really interested to see how, after the current round of contender fights, they sort out the high level non-UFC guys (Askren and, to a lesser degree, Hieron) as well as the up-and-comers at WW (Hathaway, Pierce, Hendricks, Ellenberger and the like).
Its a deep division, but barring any rules changes only Askren and Hendricks look like viable threats (after 3-5 more fights each). Fun times at WW…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it comes down to
The UFC is going to give Penn somewhat of a gimme rather than risk a 3-loss streak at LW.
I would guess Florian gets something of a tune-up fight as well next, but if G-Sot wins this one I could see him getting Florian next. He hasn’t had a legit loss in over 5 years, including 6-0 in the UFC, at his age they better do something fairly quickly.
Has the date for Sydney been announced yet?
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you really think JL is top UFC lightweight a couple wins away from the belt?
You and a couple other posters in this are the first I’ve seen to ever say that. Let’s see a string of wins longer than 3 and include competition stiffer than Kyle Bradley, Gabe Reudiger and Sam Stout. He’s got like… two top wins in his career, Pulver and Stephens. I want to see quite a lot more out of someone with ~25 career fights before I give him a shot at Edgar/Maynard/Penn/whoever has the belt 10 months from now. Sot is a big step up for him, just as JL is a step down for Sot.
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 10, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s sleep deprivation, idk. But “is there a midget in your pocket” actually made me break out into laughter.
by seanerk88 on Sep 13, 2010 2:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Guida tweeted a few days ago that his next fight was a "big one"...
I was thinking Sotiropoulos, but given this news, I’m thinking it will be Guida-Gomi.
Seems like a good fight, but one that doesn’t do much for Sot. If J-Lau wins it’ll boost him a bit though. I see Sot taking it without TOO much trouble. I’d rather see him fight Guida or somebody on that level though.
I’m hoping we get Florian/Guillard and Gomi/BJ II as all the fighters next fights.
Am I the only one who thinks Guida may be overrated a bit? I like him and enjoy watching him fight, but his movement and hair flying around seem to be making him appear to be doing more/landing more, than he actually is.
I may be way off here, lol.
i don’t think you’re way off, at all. Guida is relentless and gives guys fits, and we all know he can take a punch, but i don’t see him as a contender; ever. I’m curious to see who they’re going to put him (Guida) up against next though, b/c from what i’ve read, it’s supposed to be a big name fighter
Wonder if maybe it will be BJ?
I don’t think he is as technical as Edgar, but he could present some of the same quickness problems.
Might be a good tune-up fight for BJ, although I don’t see Clay threatening him much – he is nowhere near as good as Edgar.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You're not way off
Guida is a name, with a fanbase that stays through losses, although his fans don’t seem to be as vocal with the excuse making as those of BJ, Rampage, Griffin and the like.
It would be an exciting fight, and a better next choice IMO with Clay a wrestler. Clay and his 7-5 UFC record will never be more than a gatekeeper, but I guess Lauzon can be built back up if he loses.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Another thing
People still like to discuss how UFC is missing a lot if the top lightweights, but the truth is, it’s just a mega deep division world wide. Look at all of the contention worthy match making going on in UFC’s 155. Shit is awesome.
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by Blackout612 on Sep 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t like this fight. The Florian and Penn rumors didn’t make much sense either, because a loss, Soto would leave UFC with a challenger that isn’t going to bring much new to the table. Dunham would have been the perfect fight, ,where they would have been sure of a legit challenger, or maybe even Gomi coming off the big knockout win. Even Jim Miller is closer to the top 10 in my opinion.
Lauzon v Etim/Griffin/Stevenson would have been a better fight.
I think people are sleeping on Lauzon here. Lauzon’s loss to Stout was his first fight after major knee surgery and he simply did not look like the same fighter. His destruction of Ruediger gave an indication that he has made a full recovery.
I think this is going to be a very close and very entertaining fight. I’d give a slight edge to Sot in BJJ and striking, but Lauzon has the edge in wrestling. It’s kind of a toss up who takes this.
i wanted sot/penn
would be such an epic fight on the feet or on the ground.
good fight but makes no sense
why is george taking a step down in competition? we all know joe is a great fighter but he doesn’t have the wins lately to justify fighting george. IMO george is a contender at 155 and should be fighting penn/florian.
Penn and Florian need comeback fights, not top contender bouts. BJ is coming off 2 straight losses, and Kenny just got drubbed by Gray. Let them get an easier win before throwing them in there with Sot. Sounds like BJ may be getting Guida, which is a perfect comeback bout for him. Gomi would work too.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If all Dan Hardy had to do was beat Akihiro Gono, Rory Markham, Marcus Davis, and Mike Swick
To earn a title shot against GSP, then GSot should earn a title shot if he beats Lauzon. Not that I agree with it, but I don’t set the rules.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Agreed, Sot is already much more deserving than Dan Hardy was.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the matchup
I think some are being to hard on Lauzon. Yes he lost to Stout but it was his first fight after a year long layoff from knee surgery. Ring rust is real. I also think it is still a step up from Stevenson and Pellegrino.
Agreed - it is at least no worse
Than a lateral…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lauzon doesn’t deserve to fight Sotiro in my opinion. Sotiro is 1 fight away from as title shot whereas Lauzon is nowhere near.
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Who has George beaten that he is suddenly out of Joe’s league?
Nobody.
I like George, but let’s stop pretending that he has racked up a bunch of wins against highly ranked opponents. He has made his bones beating guys who are at about he same level as Joe Lauzon. Joe might not be a step up for George, but he sure as hell isn’t a step down.
It’s close but, I think I’d put Kurt Pellegrino and Joe Stevenson a step above Joe.
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Pellegrino and Stevenson not better than Stephens, Bradley,Ruediger etc?
You’re joking, right?
I agree
Lauzon doesn’t have any wins over anyone as good as Pellegrino and Stevenson. Those were quality, quality wins. Heck, Sotiro hasn’t lost in the UFC yet. Not sure why this fight is happening, I guess Lauzon is more popular or widely known.
YES!!!!!! This is our chance for an Aussie Champ!!!
He is getting a pretty easy (ish) road to the title, i will admit, but i will love to see him fighting edgar or maynard for the title here. I dont think he should have to go through penn or florian but with a win over lauzon, 7 UFC victories cant be ignored, especially when they are trying to break into foreign markets.
Awesome matchmaking was hoping joe would get a rematch with kenny you know the fight where joe took several illegal elbows to the top of the head..then he lost to sam stout after coming off serious knee injury and almost submitted stout.. I think alot of people are over looking joe in this match. Either way should be a war
by mlzybaby on Sep 9, 2010 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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