Kendall Grove vs. Demian Maia Set for The Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale
According to Kendall Grove on twitter:
December 4 live on spike tuff 12 final grove vs maia
Kendall "Da Spyder" Grove (12-7)
Win Goran Reljic - Decision (Split) UFC 116
Loss Mark Munoz - TKO (Punches) UFC 112
Win Jake Rosholt - Submission (Triangle Choke) UFC 106
Loss Ricardo Almeida - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 101
Demian Maia (13-2)
Win Mario Miranda - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 118
Loss Anderson Silva - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 112
Win Dan Miller - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 109
Loss Nate Marquardt - KO (Punch) UFC 102
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True, but I see this fight going the same way that the Kendall Grove vs Ricardo Almeida fight went, or how Demian Maia vs Mario Miranda went. I can see Maia getting the takedowns and working top control for three rounds. I don’t think that Grove is going to get submitted, nor can I see Grove finishing Maia in any way.
Man they hate Kendall
I take him in this fight (as a bet) if he’s +250 or above.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
I am ready to laugh my ass off when Grove pulls this off.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 7, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
Oh ye have so little faith.
Demian by whatever choke he feels Kendall deserves.
More optimistic prediction, only because it would be hilarious to see happen to Grove: Demian by heel hook.
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Maia’s take downs are straight garbage (STILL don’t know how he did that to Chael) and Grove is a big boy. I see a stylistic issue, even with all dem long limbs to grab at.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 7, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean Maia can't beat
a tall BJJ black belt with ok stand up?
Kind of like… Mario Miranda?
Touche
But Grove’s stand up >>> Miranda’s “stand up”
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 7, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And Miranda has better wrestling than Grove
Maia takes a decision easily against Grove on the ground.
Demian has the second best takedowns at middleweight
second only to Chael. Who he took the fuck down. Seriously, outside of Anderson, who has stopped his takedowns? Dan Miller went down as soon as Maia wanted him there. Chael got thrown like a child. Apparently earning a judo black belt teaches you to throw a motherfucker. He went 6/7 on takedowns against Miranda, who everybody touted as a strong anti-wrestler and a live dog.
Demian is a legit top 5 talent and scary dude in the ring. Doubters be damned.
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by pdl on Sep 8, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Demian has become one of my favorites lately but I just don’t see him threatening Silva. He played scared but maybe Chael has taught everyone a lesson. We’ll see.
Or he destroys Chael if he can beat Silva.
Demian is another one of those guys too smart for MMA.
He overthinks sometimes, but sets it aside and just does work in the ring (octagon). I think his fights with Marquardt and Anderson were both times he let his brain take too much control. You’ll notice when he stopped giving a fuck and stopped trying to out-think him, he started landing serious punches.
There’s a balance between mental and physical in MMA, and if you don’t get it right given your opponent, things don’t go your way. Normally he has a close enough balance to make shit happen and win. I think with new perspective on how to fight Anderson, it looks much different in a rematch.
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by pdl on Sep 8, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His brain didn’t get much of a chance against Nate.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He'll be the first to admit he done fucked up in that fight.
In my honest opinion, Demian can win any fight at middleweight or welterweight on a given day. Any. The Nate fight happened to not be the right time for him, and I don’t know if Wand Fight Team was the right place for him to be at the time. He’s since moved on amicably and his only loss since is to the pound for pound king of the sport. Your assertion that Kendall should win is… not well thought out. I just don’t see what Grove does significantly better than anybody Demian has beat aside from be really fucking tall.
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by pdl on Sep 8, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
you certainly have a lot of faith in your boy.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
There's a long list of things I've been accused of
not having convictions isn’t on the list.
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by pdl on Sep 8, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly. wrestling ≠ MMA wrestling.
Maia can take this to the ground, you better believe it.
by destructivist on Sep 8, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Nate Marquardt……………………………………j/k
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 8, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Watch Grove’s fight against Ricardo Almeida. Grove got taken down a lot by Almeida, and Grove doesn’t have that good of takedown defense. I can see Maia being able to get the takedown on Grove especially if Almeida was able to.
This is such shit. “Especially if Almeida was able to.”
Do people seriously forget that Almeida takes almost everyone down at will?
I think Maia has good takedowns. But shitting on Almeida to illustrate a point about someone else’s takedown defense is so dumb.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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Clinch and Twist
His take down game is all about the clinch and using little finesse arm drags and trips. It’s looked pretty damn effective against everybody except for Anderson. Grove is a long boy but not a super strong boy so I don’t see him throwing around Maia who as looked a little beefier of late.
I see Grove’s best chance as ending it with a knee but that might play into what Maia wants. It’s also worth noting that Grove nearly ripped Almeida’s arm off but I don’t think that having a good/underrated guard is enough against a ground God.
by RightTriangle on Sep 8, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Maia
By whatever fancy bjj technique he wants.
Kendal is good, but Maia is going to make him look… Well like what silva made him look like for 5 rounds.
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by We All Hate Caleb on Sep 7, 2010 11:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maia fought a guy just like Grove in Mario Miranda
And it was an ass whooping.
Strange how Grove just got yanked from prelims for shitting on Spike and TUF and here he is in a headliner on the TUF Finale.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 7, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Probably hoping he gets embarrassed with a sub loss
And he gets tossed.
TUF winner most likely to get cut: Grove, Danzig, or Wilks?
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Danzig
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 8, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
That was my first thought as well
That they want to use this fight to cut him, or at least begin the case for cutting him. He will never be an elite fighter in the UFC.
Who said it was headlining?
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Nobody, but if Maia v. Belcher was headlining a fight night it’s not that far fetched to say Maia v. Grove would headline the TUF Finale.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 8, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Maia can try to take one of da spyders 8 legs home.
by seanerk88 on Sep 8, 2010 12:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
rec for corniness.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 8, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
lol I felt like it had to be said granted it didn’t work out too well last time.
by seanerk88 on Sep 8, 2010 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really hope so
Kendall Grove is my second favorite fighter. Everyone else is my favorite.
by monkeyfightclub on Sep 8, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...
At least Demian Maia’s going to win two in a row. I mean say what you will about Maia’s takedowns but grove couldn’t stop Ricardo Almeida’s to save his life. So whatever, Maia gets the fight to the ground, Grove tries to make it respectable and either ends up in 18 different submissions and survives until the bell or taps.
The UFC just straight hates Kendall Grove. I’m pretty sure they just like watching him lose at this point.
Ricardo Almeida is generally a takedown machine.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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Wow
Maia is going to run through Grove.
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And honestly I hate Grove but he could win this
Has he ever been subbed?
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Savant?
nicccccccce.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Maia should win but it all depends on which Grove shows up, he seems so inconsistent.
by seanerk88 on Sep 8, 2010 12:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
With his chin
Maia’s mediocre stand-up could knock him out.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
What chin?
Anderson kneed the fuck out of him and he wasn’t even rocked. He got caught flush by Marquardt (on of the heaviest hitters in the division) and still wasn’t unconscious. Dude’s got a decent chin that got cracked ONCE in his career. I’m tired of hearing talk like he’s Jonothan Goulet. The guy can take a punch.
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he is talking about Grove’s chin
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 8, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Well don't I feel silly...
Yeah, Grove is more glassish. To be fair though, Cote, Riveira, and Riggs all have pretty nasty power when they land.
I still have Demian by whatever choke he wants.
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i said this same thing when it first happened and got my balls broke
To no end by my friends. That punch was so perfect and Maia was off balance. That Maia wasn’t drooling all over the canvas for the next several mins impressed me very much. Well as far as his chin goes that is. His high kick didn’t impress me so much…….
by the-gentle-way on Sep 8, 2010 2:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I meant it in more of a how entertaining of a fight it is, not so much as Grove taking it to Maia.
by seanerk88 on Sep 8, 2010 12:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess there’s no truth to the rumor that Maia would be dropping to Welterweight. Who wouldn’t enjoy seeing Maia vs any of the grapplers at the top of 170?
Man if he could use his weight he would be dangerous. He said he walks around at 195 which is around the biggest WW’s. A fight i think would be great stylistically is stun gun kim vs maia.
by destructivist on Sep 8, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Given anything can happen but...
I really think Damian Taps him out in a gogo Grove is overrated IMHO. He can’t even cone up with an original touchdown dance he’s gotta steal it from Bighead. I don’t think groves stand up is so dominant compared to Maia that he can control it easily there and prevent a take down. He’s not gonna b as effective with his kicks cause unlike the stand up Maia holds a ginormous advantage on the ground. So grove doesn’t wanna go there in the slightest the advantage is so huge. And that will effect his stand up even though it is better but like I said it’s not as much as it is on the groundcabd it will be significantly hampered because he wants nothing to do with the ground. Groves only hope is his reach working those keg kicks from the outside it opens him up for a take down but if he doesn’t do or die the first round and he works it the first 1-1/2 2 rounds then after Maia is significantly worn and battered go in for the other wise Maia wins by gogo 99/100 times. I don’t think grove wins Maia takes this easily
by Bloodsport on Sep 8, 2010 12:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is so silly it can't be real
Gogoplata sub 99 out of 100 times? Really?
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 8, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Gogo
I’m exaggerating with the gogo but. Not with the sub 99/100 times
by Bloodsport on Sep 8, 2010 12:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
IMHO
Just so this doesn’t start a tun(the ultimate noob) not funny but it makes me laugh cause I’d rather half the tuf generation not watch I like the money they fund the sport with bit they pollute real discussions in these sites and troll bloody is getting wAy too many of em.
by Bloodsport on Sep 8, 2010 12:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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by Geno Mrosko on Sep 8, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Idk
If that’s insulting me or not bit it’s awesome.
by Bloodsport on Sep 8, 2010 2:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I fucking love watermelon, but I think that bitch is dead.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 8, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol
It’s like one of those things u see on real tv where someone gets messed up bad and u turn away then immediately reach for the remote and watch it again.
by Bloodsport on Sep 8, 2010 2:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I’m gonna be the first asshole to rec it. I’ll see the rest of you in hell.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 8, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
She actually was totally cool.
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That’s one of the most brutal things I’ve ever seen.
Also, cool gif.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Gif
Could u shoot me an email tell me how to gif I’d appreciate it. Smitty024@gmail.com
by Bloodsport on Sep 8, 2010 2:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
chick has some forrest style striking defence
by DirtyML on Sep 8, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not sure if she is alive but if she is ....
She ain’t happy.
by the-gentle-way on Sep 8, 2010 2:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“So how did she die?”
“Got nailed by a watermelon.”
“Oh, word?”
“Yeah. RIght in the face.”
“I’m sorry for your loss.”
“Under cause of death, they put ‘watermelon.’”
“People are going to think she ate herself to death.”
“Yeah.”
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by crazybones on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bah! I can’t see this image and everyone’s talking aboot it. It’s like Amy from Futurama’s obscurist tattoo.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
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by Brent Ducharme on Sep 8, 2010 2:16 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I hated that show
that is all.
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Hating ass just mad you couldn’t do a 1080 on a skateboard while nine years old and living in a cartoon universe…. Don’t worry, I felt the same way.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 8, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope
I would just wonder to myself “why are they playing this shit while Angry Beavers could be on?”
Josh Barnett is a thrice proven juicer with a pro wrestling mindset and a personality that would lead you to believe he's never had a romantic encounter that didn’t start with "you gotta pay me upfront."
Angry Beavers= great cartoon
Terrible sex position.
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Word, that was a good show. You ever happen to catch the World Series of Poker on ESPN? I was convinced for years that the one guy who announces that shit did the voices for the beavers. I never actually looked the show up on IMDB to find out. I think I really just want to hold on to the idea of it.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 8, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss that show
90s cartoons are way better than the shit they play now.
I just got the original Spiderman animated series from Fox kids and Darkwing Duck. I hope Pokemon dies of parvo.
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by Barack Lesnar on Sep 8, 2010 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Wikipedia tells me they came out of the same studio.
by Brent Ducharme on Sep 8, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Maia should obviously win; he’s the more highly ranked fighter, far superior with submissions, and his throws aren’t half bad. Grove, though, can punch and is 6’6’’. If he doesn’t fight like he’s terrified of the clinch, he could KO Maia in 30 seconds. Ultimately it comes down to how Grove approaches the bout. Its all mental, because with the kind of physical gifts he has and the kind of target in front of him (Maia is immobile, holds his hands like a newb, might not be able to outbox Royce Gracie). Maia, meanwhile, will pull guard immediately should he get his hands on Grove and probably work for something from the bottom. Again, not really the best spot.
If Maia is going to get a long buildup of mediocre fighters before he reemerges as a title threat, this is a tough one to beat.
i disagree with the 30 second
Ko part. The real spider couldn’t do it but “da spyder” can. DAMIEN BY SUB rd.1
by the-gentle-way on Sep 8, 2010 2:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no i disagree with all of what you said.
Maia will not need to pull guard he will Out wrestle grove And then rape him on the ground.
by the-gentle-way on Sep 8, 2010 2:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Grove is weak
Maia will submit his ass in 2.2 seconds. Da Spyda would have already been cut if not for his TUF stint.
Kendall has some good bjj, i agree, but he has shown, that once people get passed his guard to half guard, he isnt very good at retaining gard or even half guard.
Maia will sub him.

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