Ring Psychology Exclusive: Maximum Fighting Championship Owner Mark Pavelich on Dana White, Georges St. Pierre and His Partnership With HDNet
To Maximum Fighting Championship owner Mark Pavelich, being the best MMA promotion in Canada is like being the best hockey team in Israel. It might be a nice accolade, but it doesn't place you among the world's elite. Pavelich joined me on Ring Psychology (streaming at Angry Marks and downloadable at I-Tunes) today and said he wants more. With a new business like approach, he's looking to take MFC to the next level - and with a new six card contract with HDNet in his back pocket, fans throughout the continent will be along for the ride.
Pavelich calls himself the second best interview in the sport, taking a back seat only to the UFC's Chael Sonnen. Does he live up to that hype? He talks trash about everyone from the Georges St. Pierre to Scott Coker and pulls no punches. Have a listen and see for yourself or download from iTunes. Some highlights:
On Learning from the Best: Of course I followed DW's (UFC President Dana White) show. I watched what he did lots. When I got Jason MacDonald on their show, because I used to manage and train Jason MacDonald for years, I used to sit in the arena and watch the setup of their shows. Because there's no university to go to learn to promote mixed martial arts. I would sit there and watch how they did the lighting, watch how they did this and that. It was funny. My son was real young at that time and Dana would call him over 'Hey Dave, come over here and I'll show you how this works.' We had a nice relationship.
On Why He Hopes Dana Cleans Up His Act: You'll notice when we do an interview, I don't drop the F-bomb. Just a basic fundamental of life. When you're in the professional sports business, you don't do that. Does it go through my head 47 times during an interview? Of course it does. But it doesn't come out of my mouth. Those are the little basic things. Because I know owners of sports organizations...the number one thing they say is they can't believe how certain people act in our business. They think that's the reason why we can't get to that next level. Because of that type of thing.
On GSP: I can't stand watching Georges St. Pierre fight. I put him in the same category as watching Scott Coker talk. God, it kills me. You know? I want to watch people like Ryan Ford fight. I want to watch people like Jon Jones fight. I want to watch Clay Guida fight. I want to watch people like Tom Watson from England who fights for the Maximum Fighting Championship. I want to watch him fight. Because I know he's going to do dirty shit to people. I know he's going to kick someone in the head.
Clarifying his Promise to Fire Anyone Who Pulls Guard: Internet geeks don't know me. They don't know me in a personal way. The make all the stupid comments at all these places. They say these things...when I say pull guard, I mean when you are standing flat footed in front of a guy and all of the sudden you jump to your back. And then you try to butt scoot around the ring trying to catch up to him. While he's still standing? That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. If you're getting the snot beat out of you and you jump to guard, I understand that....but when I see a guy chasing another guy, butt scooting on the ground, trying to pull him into guard? If you do that in my organization, you can go to one of those shows that's going to be out of business next year.
MFC 26 debuts on the network live on Friday, September 10th. The show is headline by Antonio McKee versus Luciano Azevedo and features Tom Watson, Jesse Taylor, and home grown prospect Ryan Ford.
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Interesting.
when I see a guy chasing another guy, butt scooting on the ground, trying to pull him into guard? If you do that in my organization, you can go to one of those shows that’s going to be out of business next year.
I assume Dana said the same thing right before Thales Leites got signed by MFC.
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by pdl on Sep 7, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Bahahahaha!!!
Excellent point, I had forgotten about him…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 7, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well done.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 8, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand this guy... total douche.
I like how he calls GSP boring, yet he has talked up Antonio McKee on multiple occasions.
He discusses this in the interview. I had the exact same response And called him on it!
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not really
He was basically dissin McKee on Inside MMA
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 7, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So in one interview Mark Pavelich calls out Dana White for swearing, but then swears himself
Mark Pavelich:
“I want to watch people like Tom Watson from England who fights for the Maximum Fighting Championship. I want to watch him fight. Because I know he’s going to do dirty shit to people”
Remember the message he left for Drew Fickett's manager?
It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed.
Interviews are different than private phone messages
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What manner of fool
Leaves a recording like that one…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this the " Just Bleed " guy? He talk’s shit about GSP, one of the, if not most skilled fighter’s in the world and then attempts to tell me a stand and bang guy is who he wants to see. This guys clearly does not appreciate mixed martial arts, he wants to see two guys throw bombs for 15 minutes. Not that I dont enjoy the occasional slobber-knocker, but I appreciate a true MMA fighter like GSP for what he does.
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pavelich very clearly likes MMA, he’s just trying to say shit to keep his name out there.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
pavelich very clearly likes MMA
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by Chris Barton on Sep 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Say what you will about Pavelich being a douche (he is), but give credit where credit is due. The guy puts on high quality MMA cards and his fighters never bitch about not getting paid. That makes him one of the good guys in the sport, no matter what you think of him personally.
He does put on good cards
I won’t take that away from the guy.
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by Chris Barton on Sep 7, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And particularly in this economy...
That covers a lot of sins…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote an article on MFC and Pavelich a few years ago, and one of the things that was said was that he runs his organization the way that a professional fight promotion should be run. Fighters are taken care of, paid up front, they have food available after weigh ins, guys are picked up from the airport, and so on.
pavelich can be an absolute DICK, and has made some very questionable decisions. But between him and whoever he has running the logistics side of his show, he’s doing a better job at promotion a regional (sometimes larger) MMA show than most others. Jesus, just look at Shine.
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by AJB on Sep 7, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mark Cuban of MMA?
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 8, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone that defends the MFC really watch these shows? If it wasn’t for HDNet no one would talk about them at all in any way.
by VirtualBalboa on Sep 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I watch ’em.
They are all solid shows. Nothing spectacular, but lots of good fights involving solid pro fighters. They’re a step down from Strikeforce/Bellator/DREAM but a step up from shows like KOTC/Sengoku. I enjoy all MMA.
You like watching Ryan Jimmo fights? In all honesty, most of the cards they do are cataclysmically bad. Being a step up from KOTC? Aside from the good HDNet cards, KOTC is unwatchable crap. Has been for 7-8 years. Sengoku is generally terrible except for Jorge Santiago fights. MFC is kinda the same way, just sub Pete Spratt for Jorge Santiago.
by VirtualBalboa on Sep 7, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly don’t care who is fighting as long as the fight is good. Some of the best fights I have ever watched have been in tiny promotions with no-name fighters. I don’t need big names to enjoy the fights.
MFC 24 was one of the most entertaining cards this year. Kong Watson & Jesse Juarez won via monster head kicks while Dwayne Lewis & Yves Edwards scored nasty ground & pound stoppages. It was a fun night of fights.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 7, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There are entertaining lower level promotions. KOTC’s last HDNet card was fantastic. Most of them have been, actually. And when the same guy was making the cards for ShoXC, those were great too. But MFC ain’t on that level. Pavelich will just about sign anyone who gets released from the UFC, match them with guys who fight the same boring style they do and then complain about how they didn’t stand and bang. Apparently this makes him a great promoter instead of an idiot who should have known better than to put Leites and Lister in the same ring together.
If he didn’t have the support of the River Cree, he’d be out of business. Period.
by VirtualBalboa on Sep 8, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve watched plenty of no-name MMA. Tons, actually. Point is, the occasional MFC 24 card doesn’t make up for MFC 25, MFC 23, MFC 22, MFC 21, etc. The guy is a terrible matchmaker.
by VirtualBalboa on Sep 8, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
To me what he is saying is he likes a fight, not MMA.
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by James Dalton on Sep 7, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
do you view what Nik Lentz did to Andre Winner as “MMA”? i don’t, there was no “mixed” part. which is what a lot of fighters are doing these days. running away from their weaknesses and not “mixing” their martial arts into a dynamic fight. There needs to be more.
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by eastcoastatlas on Sep 7, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Never said anything about Lentz
I was referring to his comment on GSP. I appreciate a fighter who is skilled in more than one aspect of fighting. I do not like a wrestler who does not evolve as a fighter and just continues to take people down with no attempt to finish. A guy like Kos has improved immensely since his debut. I just think it is an ignorant comment to say you dont enjoy watching GSP fight, the man is a phenomanl athlete, and gameplanner. He may not like it, but GSP is a fantastic wrestler and will use that against opponents who can not stop his takedowns. Once he gains a dominant position he is looking for ground and pound or submissions. He puts on great cards, but that reply makes me see him as nothing more than a douchbag who I can imagine screaming at his TV for the ref to stand up a fight every time it hits the ground.
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"take the biggest guy in the world, shatter his knee and he’ll drop like a stone." James Dalton
Should've seen him on Inside MMA
Pissed me the fuck off.
Then again, he only represents the fans’ mentality
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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to post on the UG quite a bit
and as such, am firmly entrenched in the “Pavelich is a dirtbag I don’t want in this sport” crew.
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The guy is a jackass, but he pays his fighters and his promotion seems to be on solid financial footing. That puts him head and shoulders above 80% of the MMA promoters in the business today.
If you were a fighter and MFC, Shine, and DREAM all offered you a contract (to be paid after the event), who would you rather work for? I don’t know about you, but I’d go with the guy who has a reputation for paying his fighters.
As long as I'm not Drew Fickett
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by Chris Barton on Sep 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He likes watching Clay Guida but GSP is boring?
Does…not…compute
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 7, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Pavelich is obviously gay.
He enjoys Guida’s humping offense
(I know he’s not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that. I’m not homophobic so nip that shit in the bud)
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You don't get to see GSP's pretty hair fly around in a fight
Pavelich just likes his men a certain way.
There is some neat stuff in here about Jason MacDonald and Rich Franklin and Ryan Ford. Worth a listen I hope.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 7, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I want to listen, but can't at work
I’ll see if I can sneak time in at home.
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by Chris Barton on Sep 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t stand watching Georges St. Pierre fight.
Antonio McKee on the other hand…
(But the Coker line was funny.)
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by Barack Lesnar on Sep 7, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Didn't he threaten to kick Drew Fickett's ass?
May be a different fighter, but he def wanted to fuck up a fighter and his manager over some bullshit.
He never threatened Drew Fickett .....
Drew FRICKETT on the other hand, had a first class ticket on the Pain Train.
lmfao what a clown
he likes watching clay guida but cant stand gsp wow is all I gotta say
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Just a FYI to some of you guys who don't know Pavelich
Here is a voicemail he left Drew Ficketts manager. Fickett took a fight as a replacement on a Strikeforce card that was 4 weeks out from his MFC card. Not only did Pavelich throw a fit to stop Drew from getting to fight on TV for Strikeforce, he then went ahead of fired Drew off the MFC card too. Classy.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship. I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
"Don’t quote old fucks to me" – Brent Brookhouse
Granted, there’s a difference between leaving a voicemail for someone and speaking to the media. I don’t like Pavelich at all, but he’s just talking about interviews.
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When you’re in the professional sports business, you don’t do that.
I guess this statement only lends itself to interviews or anything else meant for public consumption. Just as long as you conduct your business like this behind doors it makes it all right, right? This guy is a phony, a hypocrite, and overall crappy individual.
I guess this statement only lends itself to interviews or anything else meant for public consumption. Just as long as you conduct your business like this behind doors it makes it all right, right?
Actually yes that’s exactly right
"You should work for 15 minutes to knock your opponent out, submit him, or improve your position to give yourself the best chance of doing either." - Dan Hardy
Listen, I don’t like hearing the figurehead of the world’s largest MMA promotion talking like a disgruntled teenager as much as the next guy but at least we can say they Dana doesn’t pull any punches about who is a person. This guy on the other, tries to act like he is above conducting self anything remotely close to how Dana conducts himself, yet he sends out a completely foul-mouth, insidious e-mail and you say no foul? What?!?!
Wasn't an e-mail
It was a voicemail he left for Drew and his manager.
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And another thing...
one kind of “respectful” business man (because that is what this guy is because he doesn’t swear in public), who is the head of a fairly large MMA promotion, leaves this kind of voicemail on someone’s phone and doesn’t expect it to get out?
To be fair
He was referring to Dana dropping F-bombs in interviews and professional appearances. That voicemail wasn’t meant for the press I would assume
by RoB_ex on Sep 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's getting on a plane soon tomorrow and going where you're at right now.
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by Matthew Roth on Sep 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
pavelich is totally douchey
but his cards are good and the fighters get paid, so sadly hes good for the sport
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Officials and taxes upfront just leave the fighters to wonder about getting paid.
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by Barack Lesnar on Sep 7, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Did someone not get paid after they fought?
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there is more to it than that
like the Fickett story. Other fighters have had issues with him and MFC, too. The Fickett one is just the easiest to site. The dude cost Drew 20K from Strikeforce (which wouldn’t be THAT bad) and then cut him from the MFC card last min which cost him that pay day as well.
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He didn’t cost Drew anything. Drew was in the wrong there.
His contract said he could take any fight he wanted outside of MFC as long as it didn’t occur withing five weeks of his MFC appearance. Drew then took a fight with Strikeforce which was only two weeks before his MFC fight. Pavelich had every right to protect his business and block that fight.
Pavelich handled it like a grade A jackass, but Drew was the one who fucked up.
Look, you’re missing the point. Drew DID have a contract to not fight prior to MFC. He didn’t know it, but it is what it is. Pav could have said “fuck it” and let him fight and get his 20K plus extra money. I’m not gonna hold it against him that he didn’t. UNTIL Pav cost him that fight purse and then ALSO cut him from the MFC fight that was supposedly keeping Drew out of the Strikeforce card.
That’s what fucked it up. He cost Drew 2 checks.
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This guys awesome ha
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by II SMASH II on Sep 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Snowden, were you as confused as I was when he said he fired the ring girls? His answer after your follow up question was even more confusing.
Good interview though, really looking forward to hearing more of these.
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by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that Pavelich keeps the record going about mentioning his father and his family! Every interview I have to hear him talk about his dad in the Hockey Hall of Fame. Softball interview Snowden, you really fed his ego, but it’s worth a listen.
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You thought softball? I pressed him on Ford and McKee!
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Valimaki? Why didn’t you ask him why he moved the show back to River Creek Casino? Maybe to crush the competition? TFC is holding an event in Edmonton and Pave is pissed about it. Why do you think they re-signed Ford? To steal TFC’s biggest draw. Why not ask why they revoked Topmmanews’ credentials?
Now I am competely biased. I dislike Pavelich because he is scummy, but he does put on entertaining shows. All ?’s and statements above though I think are very vaild.
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by Erich Vowell on Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
I would have cried laughing if you asked him if Jason McDonald could beat Anderson Silva now. I also like how he called Patry a liar and then lectures us on how to correctly and professionally conduct interviews.
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by Erich Vowell on Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

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