Nate Diaz Wants Top-Three Opponent at Lightweight or Welterweight
by Nick Thomas on Sep 6, 2010 12:06 AM EDT
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"Whatever (the UFC) want(s) to do with me, I’m fine."
"I’d like to get someone in the top three contenders at either lightweight or welterweight rather than against some tough guy that’s not as popular or not as high in the rankings."
"I want to try and get a belt here sometime."
-- Nate Diaz says he wants a top contender during the UFC 118 post-fight press conference.
Nate Diaz (12-5)
Win Marcus Davis - Technical Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 118
Win Rory Markham - TKO (Punches) UFC 111
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too much too soon
guys like Pierce, Ellenberger, Story and Hendricks could conceivably give Nate problems at WW. He needs to win a couple more before fighting Fitch, Alves, Kos, etc. I have no interest in seeing him drop back down to LW because I think he is a better fighter at 170. WW is a stacked division and no one is getting a quick ride to the top.
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nate days!
he lost to guida so guida or gomi, or even bj penn
at 170 – i say alves fuck it throw him in there…. or maybe karo panic-sian!!!
thats it the panic attack parisyan
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by Geno Mrosko on Sep 6, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Seriously.
Besides, everyone knows the proper term is Karo Decisiyan.
So much cock. A cock guy.
by inadvertentgroinstrike on Sep 6, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Kenny Florian?
or how about George Sotiroupulousousous?
Really slow news day today.
It’s been brutal.
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exactly
what i was thinking. why is this news when he said this after the last ppv
bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch……………
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 6, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wasn't saying it
in a derogatory or negative way. I was just saying that it’s been a slow day. I’ve had trouble with things to throw up for Cageside. Was sympathizing with the plight here.
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Well he ain’t gonna fight shields so that’s out of the question…how bout kampman, wouldn’t be a good idea to fight any wrestlers
Depends on whether they want to build Diaz as a contender
If so, and if Kampmann loses to Shields, then he’ll be a good choice to improve his standing. Another couple options are Hardy and Swick. If he wins, then he’ll be one fight away from a title shot at WW and can possibly fight for the LW belt right away if Maynard is the champ.
If not, then give him Pierce or Fitch. Given how easily Stevenson handled Diaz with wrestling, I expect Diaz to lose, but it will put either Pierce or Fitch on the path to a title shot. Well, Fitch has already earned the rematch, but he needs some filler fights.
I would love to see him fight BJ Penn at 170. There is no possible way this’ll ever happen, but I’d like to see BJ fight a Diaz brother at some point.
"You hear people say, 'You're the greatest,' and all this stuff. It's BS. It's fake, it's all fake. You've just got to keep training as hard as you can. The only thing real is the fight, everything else is fake." - BJ Penn
As a career Diaz brothers hater
I agree.
Feed Nate to Florian, or BJ,
or Alves, Fitch or Kos.
I’ll watch it.
by CstBoog on Sep 6, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Let Alves beat him up.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 6, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
2nd for snuffaluffagus
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Sep 6, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Best nickname.
They both have very long trunks.
by Verklemptomaniac on Sep 6, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the attitude he has but you can’t lose 3 of your last 4 fights at Lightweight then move up to Welterweight and win two in a row and start talking like you deserve a top 3 guy in either weight class. Bring in Jay Hieron and give him that fight. Or the winner of the Serra-Lytle fight.
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by Geno Mrosko on Sep 6, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
slap yoself
last year when i watched ufn 19 i saw guillard beating the hell out of him until he ran right into a submission. atleast thats what i saw. i don’t know whats the deal wit you and this “who” stuff.
In the end
It doesn’t matter if you were getting dominated all that matters is in the end if your hand is raised or not.
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 2:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no duh
these mma fans hollering about a chael vs silva 2 after silva won. so lets see a guillard diaz 2.. only thing is chael aint beating silva, guillard would run through nate now
Rematch
Is a waste of friggin time. As is gsp rematch. I’m starting to get real aggravated by these Dana hasn’t made $hit up to the fans and these title rematches are getting sickening. Silva isn’t giving the fans the more important fights. I think silva vs gsp is long over due there needs to b more super fights the fans pay the bills. Also I’m bs about the lhw strap sitting idle for so long. There is no way in hell rashad should b allowed to sit and wait. When a number 1 contender can b made even more clear if rashad truely is he shouldn’t worry because if he is he won’t lose if he does then he shouldn’t have been fighting for the strap. I personally believe the machida vs page should fight bones then the winner of that fight tashad for contender it’s 3am so maybe I’m a little delusional but I’ve been upset by the main events and co main events. No way in hell toney should have been co.
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 3:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Daddy?
Is that who your implying?
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anton's trying to be funny...
Because you called Jeremy Stephens, Stephenson like Guillard did after he knee-fucked Waylon Lowe’s stomach. Because it’s funny to act holier than thou and kind of make fun of a fighter who is all fired up after a highlight reel drubbing for forgetting the name of the guy he wants to call out (keeping in mind that everyone probably forgets who the hell Jeremy Stephens is from time to time.
And for the record Guild probably wouldn’t fight Joe Stevenson because they are both at Jackson’s camp and Greg Jackson refuses to let his fighters fight each other because God forbid someone supercede his control of his fighters.
by Josh Grant on Sep 6, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I almost
rec’d that for this line:
he knee-fucked Waylon Lowe’s stomach
that’s just brilliant, sir.
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Nm
I’m an idiot I thought you were implying Nate fight Stevenson and you typed Stephenson but you were talking bout Melvins upcoming fight then Diaz my bad.
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 2:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Never will happen
I simply don’t think Nate will ever be good enough. To hold a belt. Maybe from Edgar because Maynard will beat him. He just happens to have Penns number I think he was the only man in the division that could beat Penn. Anyways back to my point I don’t FBI k Diaz is good enough plain and simple I dint believe he is even mature enough to hold a title. David almost had him in trouble when he decided to show bout (which personally I think is disrespect and there’s no room in fighting for fighters who don’t fully respect they’re opponent you don’t have to like them but respect is the first thing taught in any art). Diaz would get slaughtered by GSP or any top 5 ww. At light weight I think Penn or Maynard or any top wrestler can beat him don’t get me wrong Diaz is growing and stands more of a chance at LW then he does WW but he couldn’t beat the top 3 guys. In any division. I do believe however he could beat Edgar I still can’t pull myself to beloved him the true champ he beat Penn but every Goliath has his David. Like I said hrs the only man in the div that can beat Penn. O believe there’s a few problems for Edgar in the lw div and he will not reign it ends at Maynard then Penn will beat 2 fights away from a shot.
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 1:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Top 10
I think he couldn’t beat the top ten slot of people don’t realize how stacked ww really is because of gsp dominance.
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 2:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know why......
I’m a BJ nutthugger but I give Nate a good shot at beating BJ right now. I think BJ’s flame has went out. He’s just looked so hollow as of late.
No way
People tend to drop faith for a fighter and all he has done and judge him after his last 1-2 fights. I really think Edgar has his number.
by Bloodsport on Sep 6, 2010 2:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Everyone gets old.....
I agree Frankie has BJ’s number, but I think BJ’s gotten old before our eyes. Like Matt Hughes is happy to get wins over guys like Almeida, I think BJ’s best wins are going to be against lower teir guys these days.
Guys like Almeida?
Wtf? Just because Matt Hughes beats you, that does not mean you are a lower tier fighter.
by Patrick John McGreevy on Sep 6, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Almeida
is not a lower-tier fighter.
by Scott Haber on Sep 6, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Im not a big Hughes fan...
But wins over a tough Matt Serra and Ricardo Almeida are very good reasons for him to be happy.
I actually thought that Almeida would beat Hughes and was proven wrong. Hughes is not fighting lower tier guys
that is class A punking of almedia.
almedia is a top notch fighter. Anyone should be proud to have a w over him.
by the-gentle-way on Sep 6, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Nate will NEVER (ok probably never) win the welterweight title
Nate is essentially a downgrade version of his brother Nick. Almost identical body types and fighting styles but what Nate does, Nick does just a bit better. Along that line of thought, the Diaz brothers, despite training with Melendez and Shields have just completely thrown out the concept of wrestling in their game. What fighters rule the welterweight division? Wrestlers. GSP, Josh Koscheck, Jon Fitch even still Matt Hughes are the sharks swimming in the upper-echelon waters of the division. Who’s Nate lost to? Clay Guida and Joe Stevenson, strong wrestlers but nowhere near the level of the welterweight elite not to mention the sheer size difference. If Nate ever hopes to hold the welterweight crown, he either needs to spend serious time on his wrestling or develop such an unbelievable bottom game that even the most wt-blanket wrestlers will be afraid to go there.
by dreamers_12345 on Sep 6, 2010 3:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Feed him Kampmann
if he looses to Shields that is. That should be a good fight
by Kim Hvid Johnsen on Sep 6, 2010 5:46 AM EDT reply actions
People’s comprehension of words has gotten really fucking awful. exampled above. shit. nowadays everyone’s a can and feeding someone involves trying to make someone eat a human who is still alive. i tell ya, kids these days.
perception is reality
by Marvin Malehooves on Sep 6, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
People’s comprehension of words
perception is reality
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by Drunken cutman on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Why does Col. Sanders keep the 11 herbs and spices of Kentucky Fried Chicken's original recipe a secret?
Because he’s ashamed of them.
perception is reality
by Marvin Malehooves on Sep 6, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
But you still crave it fortnightly
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I’d love to see Diaz vs. Guida.
perception is reality
by Marvin Malehooves on Sep 6, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions
I thought that was Nick and I though Diaz won that fight. I thought Nick Diaz won that fight. Well at least I have beer left.
perception is reality
by Marvin Malehooves on Sep 6, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Diaz is getting ambitious
which I guess is good. But he’s not ready for top 3 in either weight class. And he shouldn’t fight lightweight anymore. 170 is fine for him, he should put on some muscle while fighting some lower or mid-tier guys and see if he can get some momentum going.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
This is assuming, and we all know about that, but
It appears Diaz uses more of a weight loss approach (maybe mixed with some poor cutting techniques) to get to 155. Not quite Irwin-esq or anything, but not well done.
I could be way off, as one really can’t tell from pics, but he doesn’t appear to be a guy who walks around more than 170-175. As such, he should be able to easily make LW with a proper cut and still enter the cage at 170ish with full strength.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 6, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Diaz should stay at 170.
He just won his last two fights at 170 convincingly and looked great doing it. Why go back down in weight? Some comments here are suggesting Swick but I think he’ll move back up to 185, at least I think he should.
And all the talk of him having trouble with all the wrestlers at 170 is understandable but I would still like to see him fight them. Diaz looks much stronger and more comfortable at 170 and I would like to see him stay there. If he can’t handle the stronger wrestlers at welterweight then let’s see the proof. He’s an exciting fighter and it makes for some new and interesting matchups even if he never fights for the title.
I don’t think that he should fight a top 3 fighter yet but give him a step up in competition from Davis and see what he can do. The winner of Lytle-Serra or Sanchez-Thiago makes the most sense.
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt at LET
Edgar would have trouble with him, IMO. Maynard already showed he wanted no part of Diaz’s guard. I’m not sure he can out box him again. BJ is an interesting match up. I could see that being a wild fight. At 170 he doesn’t really have a chance. They’re just too big with too much sub defense.
I think in five years, if he isn’t brain dead, his Jiu Jitsu and strength will improve enough to make him a real threat at WW
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by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 6, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
WW is not for him
Its probably too late for him to add enough wrestling to be relevant, and he would have to add 15-20 #s of muscle to compete with the larger WWs. Not to mention that his BJJ won’t help much against GSP now or guys like Askren or Hendricks in the future.
His best bet is to learn to cut weight properly and fight where he belongs – at LW. Unless BJ has really fallen off a cliff with his BJJ, he takes Diaz with ease. Can’t see him having much for Edgar either, and hopefully Maynard has worked enough on his sub defense to not be so worried about that part any more.
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i disagree
He doesn’t have enough on his punches @ 55. He is too tall for 155, you can’t cut bone weight. I would like to see him bigger at 170.
by the-gentle-way on Sep 6, 2010 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You must really hate Diaz, if you're rooting for Maynard :P
I don’t know if he can beat Frankie, but his reach and constant punching could make things hard for him. I also think his long ass limbs would be hard for Edgar to contain on the ground. The way Gray acted last time they fought, I’m not sure he’ll ever want back in Diaz’s guard.
I don’t think BJ would even try to take Nate down. I’d pick BJ, but I think Nate could make it a fight.
"I trained with Steven Seagal."
by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 6, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
“The way Gray acted last time they fought, I’m not sure he’ll ever want back in Diaz’s guard.”
The way Gray fought against Diaz would probably lose against Florian, too. I don’t think Maynard will fight that way again, because he knows that he won by a slim and controversial margin with that poor strate. It’s pretty easy to predict a win for Maynard, or at least the outcome of the fight is 80% in control of Maynard regardless of what Diaz does.
Still, it’s a marketable fight, whether Maynard gets the title not. The only other contenders they have are Dunham and Sotiropoulos, who will probably fight each other to create a guaranteed contender.
Didn't we already do this song and dance?
After he beat Pellegrino, he asked for tougher competition, and lost two in a row to Guida and Stevenson. Now, he beats Marcus Davis, and he wants to fight tougher guys again.
Let’s say he doesn’t fight a wrestler. Let’s say he fights a guy on the top of his game with a lot of punching power, like Alves or Hardy. He’s going to get snapped like a twig. Aside from the fact that most top guys out there are simply better fighters than he is, they’re also going to be quite a bit stronger, and you can’t really work the jab when a guy considerably stronger has either kicked your legs out or put your brain on a proverbial skillet.
Both Nate and Nick are tough dudes, but I don’t really think either of them have what it takes to really hit the highest of highs at Welterweight. Aside from the lack of wrestling, neither of them has a lot of power either. No offense meant, but I think they’re overrated.
Diaz's punking of Marcus Davis was much more impressive than Hardy's SD.
I find a Dan Hardy / Nate Diaz fight intriguing. Just imagine the shit-talking leading up to the fight!!
I also think Nate would tool Swick, but there are much better matchups for Nate at 170. He doesn’t have much of a chance against the strong wrestlers at WW, but there are a lot of predominantly stand-up fighters in that division that would be exciting fights to watch: Hardy, Johnson, Howard, Swick, Thiago, list can go on and on.
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