UFC 120 Preview: Michael Bisping Working Towards A Title Shot
by Nick Thomas on Sep 3, 2010 4:29 PM EDT
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"I see myself as the favourite in this fight (against Yoshihiro Akiyama) and if I don't win, then I'll be very disappointed.-- Check out the full interview at blogs.mirror.co.uk.
"I've been a proud ambassador of UK MMA, I've worked hard and I've helped grow the sport to where it is. I haven't disappeared off to America, like some Mohican wearing people (Dan Hardy) and lived there and trained there, but then come back here and pretend I'm English.
"My roots are here in England and I stay here and I train here and I'm proud to be English. You know, I don't go training in America because the trainings better, but then come here and try and get all the UK fans on my side. I'm English and this is where I'm from and this is where I train".
"I'd love to fight Chael Sonnen. He's looking phenomenal. ...I think personally he's a bit of a tool to be honest. He's awesome at promoting a fight, but he's delusional and he's so far up his own arse it's unbelievable".
"I think if I beat Akiyama well, I think either a rematch with Wanderlei (Silva) or Chael Sonnen or (Nate) Marquardt or whoever the top guys are in line for the title - I want to fight one of them contenders and then hopefully get a shot".
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As I just said on WKR, I agree with him about Chael but think he is being a bit of a tit about Hardy.
Regardless, if he does manage to beat Aki (I think he will) he should be much closer to a #1 contenders match. That would be a great feather in his cap.
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I hope Bisping gets some sort of title shot.....
because I would LOVE to see him get demolished again. Like in his Hendo fight. I never liked Bisping and never will.
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by DJ Pullout on Sep 3, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really hope he doesn't beat Akiyama
I’ve got big walnuts. Gorilla nuts.
by Austin Martin on Sep 3, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Same here
doesn’t mean I don’t think he will. He is gonna get Aki on his back and beat the piss out of him.
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i wrote something below
Bisping has a heavy ground game but his takedowns aren’t the greatest. I’m not sure he can get Akiyama to the ground with his judo experience. I guess we’ll see.
Aki
isn’t super hard to get on his back and when Bisping gets you there he f’ing wrecks you.
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agreed about the wrecking part
he didn’t take long to finish of kang when he finally got on top.
but i haven’t really been impressed with Bisping’s takedowns, and as he demonstrates in his comments, he doesn’t seem that interested in really working on them.
i could see this playing out like the w. silva fight. bisping takes the first round but then starts to get rocked.
anyway – i think it is a great match up, i’m looking forward to seeing.
Kang had already gassed
In the words of GSP, I am not impressed
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 3, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I Effin' Hate Bisping....
i think that Akiyama wont lose two fights in a row, and i think he is getting more and more comfortable inside the Octagon, as it takes time for a fighter coming from Japan and switching to a cage, Learning how to fight the American style and i think Akiyama has a chance at stopping “Glass Joe” Bisping!! then i hope Dan Hardy moves to 185 and beats Bisping’s ass~!
by Curtis Wooden on Sep 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
All contenders should have to go thru
Sonnen, Marquardt, or Maia. Once you beat one of them, you get a title shot. If not, those three keep rotating title shots.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
agreed
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Please no
PLEASE. I don’t want to see Mike out-point Chris on his bike for 3 more rounds.
"Don’t quote old fucks to me" – Brent Brookhouse
Sonnen destroys Bisping.
What can MB possibly do to avoid the takedown and brutal G+P??
He has pretty poor TD and poor submissions.
Good luck with that.
um
I wouldn’t exactly call Chaels GNP “brutal”. Relentless, perhaps, maybe smothering…but brutal? Silva’s face looked baby fresh homie.
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by nicey on Sep 3, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apart from the relentless part.
Against Silva and Marquart he just smashed them on the ground,imo.
And i thought Silva totally looked like he had been in a fight.More so than i’ve ever seen before.
Well, heres a screenie of his mug immediately after the fight.
Do you even see 1 scratch?
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Maybe he doesn’t mark up that bad.
I know he got punched in the face regularly and generally got his arse kicked for 4 1/2 rounds,whatever the picture shows.
Great angle on that pic
Did you purposely pic that akward angle to hide the swelling? I mean Silvas face definitely wasn’t beat up, but looking at it straight on there was alot of swelling.
by RoB_ex on Sep 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The pic
was the first one I found that I thought was relevant, not intending to “show a certain angle” I mean come on. Anyways, here is the pic of Silva from Snowdens post-fight result. Again, Silva does not look like he was “brutalized” at all. He was punched what, 200+ times in the face, so that is why I say Chaels GNP isn’t brutal.
And if this isn’t the right pic, then I just give up and y’all win!
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yea. again.
HERES THE REAL ONE! Christ can I fail any more? Anyways, he looks like he was sparring, not getting brutalized.
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Now
if only we could edit posts so I could look slightly less dumb…Regardless I wasn’t arguing Chael didn’t beat up Silva. I’m not even a Silva fan, and was very, very impressed by Chael. Epic fight, looking forward to the rematch. Just saying his fact looks much better than anyone else who’s gotten fisted a couple hundred times. In the face I mean.
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fact = face
sigh. Going to go play in traffic now..
Don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver or gold.
he still has a point
Sonnen, as most wrestlers, has limited power in his GNP.
If Silva had connected 200 times with Sonnen’s head, it would be marinara sauce…
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The real picture
shows blood in his teeth and a badly swelled face.He got smashed up for 4 1/2 rounds.
You forgot to mention that Silva has always had an excellent chin.
His face has never looked like that after any fight previous to the Sonnen one.
Wrong Fight
This picture doesn’t really help your case because this was after the Demian Maia fight.
Nope
by NaciremaDream on Sep 3, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Smothering's enough to beat Bisping though
I don’t think his jiu jitsu’s crisp enough to pull off a submission against Sonnen from his back. And he will get put on his back.
Bisping’s a hell of a scrambler, though. I’d be intrigued to see how long Chael could keep him down.
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"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
Yea, Silva is content on his back, way more dangerous than Bisping from that position. MB will be trying like hell to get up slash work to stuff takedowns. You envision this fight coming to fruition via Bisping beating Aki and Sonnen beating Silva in the rematch I am gathering.
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Not sure I see it happening anytime soon, just speculating.
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“Recently, (Chael Sonnen) is looking phenomenal. I think personally he’s a bit of a tool to be honest. He’s awesome at promoting a fight, but he’s delusional and he’s so far up his own arse it’s unbelievable”.
Someone forgot what happened the last time he fought a wrestler from Team Quest
I think the funny part is him calling Sonnen a tool. If thats not the pot calling the kettle black I dont know what is.
In all fairness:
If Chael’s tool-ness is considered a pure black, Bisping is more of a darkish grey.
I'm British
And I cant help but cringe whenever Bisping opens his mouth.
Sure Mike, what a fool Dan Hardy is for heading over to America in an attempt to improve the weaker area’s of his profession. He should probably just stay in England with the lack of wrestling coaches, because that’s the cool British thing to do. Sure the fact his girlfriend is American has nothing to do with it either.
“He’s awesome at promoting a fight, but he’s delusional and he’s so far up his own arse it’s unbelievable”."
Pot, meet kettle.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
by NE188 on Sep 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
I dont know what qualifies as British, so I need your help
Wasn’t Bisping born in Cyprus? Doesn’t that make him closer to Greek/Turkish?
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." -Will Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
I suppose it really depends on how you define nationalities? I mean, if he was born in Cyprus, lived there for a matter of months and then has lived in England for the rest of his life, i’d class him as British.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
Exactly
He is delusional when it comes to Hardy. Hardy is being a smart fighter and, if successful, will bring much more attention and accolades to UKMMA than staying home to train while letting your game suffer.
"Don’t quote old fucks to me" – Brent Brookhouse
I think the torch was already passed...
when Hardy got a title shot before Bisping…let alone actually being far more entertaining.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
He is criticising Hardy for doing the right thing,imo,going to America to better his game,especially the wrestling,while Bisping sticks to his ignorant ways(although he has had Rampage over here a few times).
I imagine Bisping is jealous in reality because no one in America likes him and none of the gyms would accomodate him. :)
by Matt Mosley on Sep 3, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think with his beard and his power Bisping could be in for a rough night. His wrestling is no slouch either. And he’s training with Greg Jackson!
Should be a great fight – people are down on UFC 120 but it’s free, with a lot of high quality fights, and even a decent undercard. I’m looking forward to this one.
For what it’s worth i think it will be a pretty close fight with Bisping using his range and fighting cautiously.I would def expect Akiyama to be the aggressor and the wrestling at Jacksons should be a factor.
The home crowd will def help Bisping though,once again,but if i had to make a choice i would probly go with Akiyama.
OK Mikey
I liked you on TUF, defended you a few times (not on the Hamill fight, but a few times after it even), and believe you’re a much better fighter than most commenters here give you credit for. There is a lot of hate (hater’s ball type hate, not the literal kind) directed at you for being a Brit, even though no one will admit it.
But then, there’s also a lot of hate directed your way for the dumb shit you say. You seem like Tito, except not so much of a nice guy. And when even your fellow countrymen say they don’t like you, well…
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
stupid thing is
I’ll cheer for Bisping at the 02, no doubt, because he’s British and it’s exciting to see hometown fighters infront of a hometown crowd. I think his abilities are underestimated alot of the time but then he comes out with shit like this and you suddenly stop wondering why the majority of America thinks he’s an idiot.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
I think if he kept his mouth shut more often and improved his punching power,he might become more popular.He’s obviously got reasonable skills or he wouldn’t have been in the UFC as long as he has
not to mention
he’s like 22-3, with his only losses being to henderson, w. silva and r. evans. (and okay, the win over hamill was dubious).
To be honest
I think he’s one of the better grapplers the UK has to offer and I also think his GnP is highly under rated. He hasn’t got one punch KO power but he’s a cardio machine and is the type of guy that will just keep on punching when ends up in a dominant position.
It’s just the way he sells himself that rubs people the wrong way. At first I was confused and thought American fans gave him grief purely because he was British. I’m sure there are fans that do so because of his nationality alone but he doesn’t help himself with idiotic statements like this.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
Well I can testify that him being British didn't help him gain any fans stateside. ( Americans still think we're better than europeans because of WWII)
But he has gone on to solidify his status as a complete tool since then.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
WWII????
Just to remind you,the UK and the USA were on the same side.
I’m English and i don’t think of myself as European at all.We are an island on our own,imo.
Any of this nationalism talk is just immature BS.
I either like or dislike people because of how they are,not where they are from.
And by the way,for any of you American’s that do hate Brits in general,i can assure you the feeling is mutual among many of the younger generation over here.
As i said above,i do not include myself among them. :)
I was joking dude no offense intended
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I think the English are by far our biggest European friends. I thought anti-Americanism had gone out of style.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
I mean there are always some jokes/jabs we’ll take at one another but it’s usually in good humor and not genuine animosity.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
I'd make a bad teeth joke but I'm from the South so.......
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I was told UK doesn’t put fluoride in the tap water like US, is this still the case?
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by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
HA!
I’m half-Brit, half-amurican. Lived in Ipswich, England til I was 11 and then moved to Mississippi. I’m doing well to still have all my teeth I guess.
But the hate shown from both sides is incredible. When I moved here, I still had the English accent…you have no idea how many fights I got in to stop the nickname “English muffin.” Lost most of them, but gained my respect.
Now, everytime I go back to UK to visit my family and friends, I hear “go home Yank,” “fuck you you yankee cunt,” so on and so forth.
UK being pretty tight with US globally means dick to an individual.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That is pretty universal
Among the ignorant, especially the young and ignorant, throughout the world towards all sorts of groups…
I half expected a bunch of “if it weren’t for us you guys would be speaking german, so clean this damn mess (oil) up” but then I remembered that most younger (under 30 or so) Americans, even the college grads, are almost completely ignorant of history due to what/how it is taught…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
I’ve been other places before, and in all of them there seems to be a pretty widespread appreciation for America as a whole sometimes. There’s always just some bad apples that wanna be pricks. Of course, the same goes for the US and people from other countries.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 3, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
well said.
Your above comments sound about right too.
And yes,we have fluoride now.Got it in 2007 i think. :)
From my (admitedly limited) travels it seems there are many who appreciate America in the abstract but dislike Americans…lol…then again, I always try to go places where the tourists are not so…
Kind of like in Clerks “you hate people” “yeah, but I love crowds…” or something like that…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally
i’ve talked to American’s on my travels over the years both in their homeland and in Australia,Mexico,etc and 90% of the time i found them to be intelligent,friendly and welcoming.
The only time i found them annoying was when i was on holiday in Cancun on the 4th of July and it was full of 18-20 year olds on vacation.
They couldn’t handle the booze but then they were only young and i was in my mid 20’s so maybe i was forgetting my own teenage years.
I think everybody looks up to the US as a country,whether they admit it or not but i have usually enjoyed their company on an indivdual basis.
It depends.Most people are OK i think,wherever they are from.As someone said earlier,you get a few bad apples wherever you go.
I guess that rules you out of the “random bad apple prick” category. Good for you bud.
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by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 3, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohh and about the european comment my bab I should have known better.
I did get a little offended when I was referred to a Canadian.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha!
The same over here.
The Irish and the English have a bit of a rivalry,and the Scots and Welsh too.
They all seem to hate England?
I think really they look up to us but they’ll never admit it….. :)
There's a fellow over at MMAforreal that's Irish (he keeps me up on Hurling)
I was telling him how when I was over there, there was this bitter English fellow I was talking to. He was talking about how in England they always root for Wales(I don’t know if that’s spelled right) and Ireland when they a playing anyone else but how the Irish root against England in everything it was pretty funny.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re Scottish, Irish or Welsh, you pretty much dislike the English, lol. It’s mainly down to our Media. As far as football is concerned the media seem to think its our god given right to be favourites for all major tournaments etc. I currently live in Scotland and the majority I know claim to hate the English. when the World Cup hit they were selling “Anyone but England” T shirts all over the country.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
I can’t blame them for that.I hate football personally and everything that it is about and especially our own English football and how the media build us up to be something we are not.
To be honest i was glad when we got trounced in the WC.
Full of nancy boy,overpaid prima donnas who are scared of breaking a fingernail. :)
I don't care for the world Cup myself or football (Soccer not real Football) in general
But my woman is Colombian so not only did I have to watch the damn thing I had to watch it in Spanish.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
you just end up waiting for the GOAAAALLLLLL!
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Its like
The New York City, Mexico City or Texas attitudes towards the rest of their countrymen – and it goes both ways…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They should be grateful
We civilised them (almost), stopped them wearing kilts and playing the focking bag-pipes(most of the time) and opened their minds to a better diet (almost)…
Being honest, the Scottish are a good lot. Just the bitter, deluded, chip on their shoulder neds who you need to keep clear of….
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Sep 3, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I was watching UFC 66 the other week and when he fought Eric Schafer on that card he showed some really respectable power,i thought,when he caught Schafer with a Muay Thai knee to the head and finished him with punches.
Admittedly that was at light heavy and maybe the drop in weight decreased his power but i also think he looked pretty good in his last fight against Dan MIller.
I think his lack of power is a real thing. Akiyama doens't seem to have the best defense but I've only ever really seen one other person rock Leben like that
Bisping wants another pity-patty kick-boxing match
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Being a neutral Swede (that’s what we do best, after all), I’ll say that my dislike of Bisping has nothing at all to do with him being British. He’s just a dick, plain and simple.. you summed it up pretty well in your now greened comment earlier in the thread. Why does he go shitting on Hardy all of a sudden? As someone mentioned below, Hardy usually seems pretty respectful of Bisping when asked about him (as far as I’ve seen).
Some of the gripe is of course also the fact that he was sort of given an easy path in the UFC and heavily promoted because Dana wanted a British star. Nowadays though he has been getting some rougher match-ups so that’s not too much of a factor anymore IMO. Also I guess the fact that he lacks power and often fights a little scared / for points may also contribute. Bottom line though, Bisping is a major douchebag and that will most likely never change.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think him shitting on other British fighters is down to the fact that he’s aware he is widely regarded as the “British heel” of MMA now and is trying to embrace it. What he doesn’t seem to realise is that turning on fighters from your own country when you’re involved in a sport that isn’t widely recognised in said country just makes you look like a prick.
Along with this, Hardy isn’t the best guy to pick on. Bispings smack talk generally sucks and Hardy is probably the best British talker the UFC has. He’s intelligent, articulate and would probably make Bisping look an idiot should he choose to publicly reply.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
Probably just because his last fight is fresh I really like Brad Pickett (no homo)
I will never be a fan of Hardy simply because I’m a Swick mark and I won’t let myself do that.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Aha, okay. Makes sense, in a stupid kind of way.
Yeah that is true, he’d bury Bisping if he made the effort.. I like Hardy, he’s obviously a smart guy who manages to do some funny stuff with his trash talking. Even though I think he might be slightly overrated and was rushed to a title shot, he’s a very likable guy who lacks any clear motive as to why you’d want to shit on him like that.
Ah, all this Bisping talk made me think of Bisping’s Island!
by Horselover Fat on Sep 3, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
we're both Texas boys so gotta stick with your own. I knew a guy that did time with Mike's brother.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, almost as if he’s saying “lets really ride the heel image and start to talk shit about British fighters, that’ll shock everyone”, aka “that’ll make me look like a right twat!”
I have alot of time for Hardy. I thought his comment about Marcus Davis’ website looking like a St Patricks day gift shop had exploded was hilarious. There’s alot of Brits who are billed as over rated. I think it’s partially down to the fact that they’re pushed early in an attempt to boost the sport over here. For me they’re not necessarily over rated, they’re just thrown in the deep end early on in their career. For instance, Hardy is working hard on his wrestling, but everyone knew he didn’t know enough to have a chance of staying on his feet against GSP. Even the Brits knew fine well he’d be taken down at will. What I did like was how well he did on the ground and the fact GSP acknowledged that. I still dont know how GSP didnt tap him, he’s like stretch armstrong.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
Yeah, at the time I was like who the fuck is this guy Hardy?
Davis will always have a huge following so people don’t take to kindly to an upstart talking shit to him, But Hardy ruined Davis in that fight. One thing about Hardy is he backs up his shit talking.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Hardy but of the 2 or 3 fights i’ve seen him in i thought he seemed a bit one dimensional and his supposed strong point,his striking,is not exactly top notch,imo.
A lot of the time he just walks forward with his fists at his chin and when he does actually throw,his punches aren’t the quickest.However he does have some power there as he has shown.
Personally my favourite Brit fighters are Ross Pearson and John Hathaway,though they are relatively unproven.
They seem to both have the right attitude,Pearson just needs to stop comparing himself to BJ Penn. :)
I like Pearson
THis is his first real one though, Miller can and prolly will take him down cause there ain’t too many LW that want to stand with Pearson.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hathaway is English?
Damn he schooled the “American Wrestler”
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, totally agree on Hardy, he showed a lot of heart in that fight and managed to go the distance without getting too hurt in the process. Also it’s a great thing that he’s sucking it up and going to the US to improve his wrestling.
Hathaway and Pearson are also looking very good.. I used to like Daley too up until his suckerpunching Kos, which wasn’t very nice.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 3, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Beware of what you ask for Michael...
You just might get it…and I think that Sonnen, Marquardt, and Silva are are all bad fights for you.
Sonnen takes you down, and ground and pounds your head in.
Marquardt is just better than you at everything.
Wanderlei…you might out-point him, but that’s it. I think he knocks you out in your next fight.
I like Mike…he seems like a good fellow, but it also seems that he buys into his hype more than anybody else. Dude…you are a gate keeper. You excel at beating lower tier fighters, but I don’t think you have what it takes to fight the upper echelon. Anderson Silva would probably murder you.
To be fair to Bisping i thought the Wanderlei fight was very close and could have gone either way but obviously i realise that that was an old Wandy and he looked a bit drained at 185 to me.
Totally
I thought it was a close fight as well, but I think as Wanderlei finds his feet at 185, it only gets better. Also I think that Mike has looked a bit tentative since getting knocked out by Hendo.
Mike wins fights by cumulative damage. He doesn’t really have knock-out power, so Wanderlei has no worries of being knocked out and can pursue aggressively.
by funkywanderer on Sep 3, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If he beats Akiyama (hope not) hope to see him fight Maia.
I have a feeling Maia will fight Leben though.
I’m British and Bisping is being a dick. No need to slag off Hardy. His camp is always at Rough House, he trains wrestling and BJJ in the US which is fair enough due to the lack of wrestling coaches here, and the fact that his girlfriend is American. Where was all this talk when he was coaching James Wilks on TUF?
Hardy always sticks up for Michael, so I don’t understand these comments
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Yes, I was a bit surprised to see Mike slag Hardy like that. I wonder if there is anything more to the story.
by funkywanderer on Sep 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Akiyama will school Bisping
He’s a permanent gatekeeper.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Bisping has no change
Akiyama by sexiness and better entry music
Sheeeeeeeee-it
by Clay Davis on Sep 3, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I've never cared about Akiyama one way or another
but suddenly, I’m his biggest fan. Bisping is horribly overrated.
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Also despite his record unless he fights the Jason Days of the world
He’s pretty much become a points fighter. He doesn’t have KO power and I thought he clearly lost the Hamill fight.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
i thought he lost the Hamill fight, too.
but i was really surprised how easily he handled a roided-up Leben.
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Bisping is gonna get wrecked
Okay, maybe not wrecked(hopefully wrecked) but Akiyama + Greg Jacksons = Bisping losing…Bisping talked about how his main strategy was cardio and outlasting, but I believe that will be the first thing Akiyama fixes after the Leben fight.
Bisping beats unimpressive competition, I’m working on an article about how babied he is, matchmaking wise. Wanderlei had loss 5 of his last 6, coming off of 2 straight losses when they gave him to Bisping, and Bisping lost a clear 29-28 decision. Then they give him Dan Miller coming off of 2 straight losses, now they give him Akiyama coming off of a loss…he gets babied into positions where he can win fights. Any time he really steps up a bit(Henderson, Evans, and even Wand) he loses, and sometimes he even loses when he doesn’t really step up, like the Hamill fight that was a total robbery.
CPG
I think they give TUF winners "winnable fights" on purpose
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Only Bisping could fight Leben, Henderson, Kang, Wanderlei, Miller and Akiyama in a row and be accused of getting “babied”.
Leben was 2-2 in his last 4 heading into the Bisping fight
Then they gave him the Hendo fight and he got destroyed.
Bounce back fight against Denis Kang, a perennial disappointment who went the distance with someone McFedries disposed of in 30 seconds, and now Kang is gone from teh UFC.
Wandy had lost 5 of 6.
Miller poses no threat standing and lost his last 2.
Akiyama “beat” Belcher (I scored it for Akiyama but upon further review I was very wrong) and lost to Leben.
He will always beat the B-level fighters but he can’t beat anyone better than that.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
When I first watched the Belcher/Aki fight I thought Belcher won and upon rewatching I think they made the right call.
I think it was the Superman Punch off the cage that wowed me at the time.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to agree with Sink that Bizzo hasn’t been as easily matched as some would say (though it did cross my mind as the UFC have used him as their main UK flag bearer for quite a while now).
If he wasn’t such a douche and so unpopular he would get just a bit more credit than he does,imo,though i do agree that he is B level.
What would you say Aki and Belcher are though.Same or B+ or what?
Belcher I would say is near A level but we'll never know if the eye injury is career ending
Akiyama is just slightly above Bisping in terms of ability.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Akiyama is a world class athlete I don't think Bisping can say that.
I think Belcher and Bisping are about the same level B, i guess. Shit I’d love that fight Bispings boxing is better I think, and their ground games are prolly a wash but I’d give a power advantage to Belcher.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Sep 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
At first, of course
But eventually they all have to stand on their own. Bisping seems like he will keep going 1-1 forever and never get cut, he’s passed the buildup stage, and has shown he can’t cut it against better competition. Beats Leben, loses to Henderson, beats Kang, loses to Wandy, then beats Miller, likely gonna lose to Akiyama, then beat some lesser dude, then take a step up and lose again.
3 losses in his last 8 fights, as soon as he hit the higher level at 205, he lost to Evans, then he dropped to 185, so they gave him a few gimmes to build him up, and now he is 2-2 in his last 4.
CPG
Not to mention
before that Evans fight, just stepping up against Hamill, he should have lost that fight, but he got lucky in a robbery.
CPG
The trouble with Bisping is that he’s never quite figured out if he wants to be a face or a hell. Sometimes I think he tries to be a face, but reverts to his “I don’t give a shit” heel attitude when he realises no one likes him, then reverts back to trying to be a face after he realises no one takes him seriously enough to be a true heel.
Was going to UFC 120...
Then I found out Bisping was headlining… and fuck am I seeing that pompus twat headline a card for £100+ pounds (I pay for my mrs too).. So yeah see ya @ the Joe Rogan gig and the expo.. but i’m skipping the event… I was pulling for Hardy vs Alves or atleast something worthy of the cash… personally the whole card stinks and this is coming from a guy who went to the last ufc in manchester.
amen to that. Just got to knock out the mrs and stuff her in a suitcase… no way i’m getting there otherwise.
by Perry Johnson on Sep 3, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
neither of them are all that exciting
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 3, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
122 isn't complete yet
But if Siver/Gomi is rumored I’m sold.
Belfort/Okami for #1 MW contender
Siver/Gomi
Rivera/Sakara won’t go the distance.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
i am a little sad about the Sakara/Rivera fight only because one of them is going to lose.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t going to bother with 120 but then the fan expo came around and I will be there for that. Having never actually been to an MMA event live in Britain i’d sort of be frustrated at myself knowing that I was down in London and not at the fight. In saying that I’m sure the cheapest ticket currently going is around 110 quid should you want a decent seat and when you look at 122 you could probably get a cheap flight and a hostel in Germany for a few quid more. Something that is more than appealing given the quality of the card in comparison to London.
Goldberg: "He's got him in some kind of strange choke I've never seen before!"
Rogan: "That's a rear naked choke."
Marq, Sonnen and Maia are a bit much for his skill set
Hes a good all around fighter but Chael has amazing wrestling, Marq amazing striking and Maia amazing subs so I can see him being abused by each of them.
So all it takes for Chael to get these amazing trash talking skills is submerging his amazing idea brain up his ass? Too bad there is not a chapter for triangle choke defense up his butt or would be the champ.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
are you talking to me?
your post didnt really make much sense in context with my post
Yeah I dont know what happened there. some kind of non-reply fail.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 3, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We now know that Anderson’s kryptonite is a guy with a good double leg, good ground and pound and good submission defence.
The Spider no can defend against Bisping’s patented standing GnP.
Bisping does not have Sonnen's wrestling ability
And Silva would murder him standing.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
a good double leg
His wrestling is decent for someone from the UK, but wrestling wise he is nowhere near Sonnen’s league.
by Lyrias on Sep 3, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A for effort.
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by Earl Montclair on Sep 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
“I’ve been a proud ambassador of UK MMA, I’ve worked hard and I’ve helped grow the sport to where it is. I haven’t disappeared off to America, like some Mohican wearing people (Dan Hardy) and lived there and trained there, but then come back here and pretend I’m English.
Hmmmm
MMAjunkie.com: I know you’re training a lot in Big Bear with Quinton Jackson. Have you thought about making the U.S. your permanent home?
Michael Bisping: I think about it a lot. I love the States. I love the lifestyle. It’s a possibility. You get a lot for your money here. Ideally, I’d like to do half and half — half my time here and half my time in England. I get great training in both places.
by Lyrias on Sep 3, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Was that before Hendo knocked some sense in to him
by skyhawkmd on Sep 3, 2010 8:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bisping - Jon Jones?
What do you think? I think it would be a great matchup!
To quote Chael Sonnen:
“Thinking that Bisping will ever hold a belt is like holding on to Jim Morrisson’s mail, VERY optimistic”
..!..
wonder if him and hardy will be in the same locker room after this. michael is just one of those dudes that doesnt understand why no one likes him right after he throws people under the bus.
That post fight appearance on MMA Live
in which he pretty openly told Couture to fuck off or shut the fuck up, or whatever, was the perfect example of both how big of a douche Bisping is and how he totally doesn’t understand how to win over fans.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Getting back to his old cocky self
I think he’ll beat Akiyama, he’s still a smart fighter who deserves respect. But it’s sad to see him stray from the more humble (and likable) Bisping we saw after the Hendo fight.
Bisping, how stupid can you be?
Why call out Chael Sonnen if you want to get a shot at the title? If you get that fight, he’ll take you down 20 times and pound your face in over the course of 15 minutes and you’ll be right back out of contention. If you want to call out and fight guys who can beat you and still get a title shot, head on over to strikeforce!
The best part of this interview was.............
Bisping calling Chael a tool. Wow!
That’s definitely the pot calling the kettle black.
I respect all fighters to some degree, but I absolutely hate Bisping. I like how he compares himself to the UFC greats and all those who has built the UFC to where it is. He has only been around since TUF 3 and he thinks he built the UFC?
The guy is a fuck….
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