Sizzling September: Five Fights That Will Heat Up This Autumn
Thirty one magical days. That's all it took to rekindle a passion for MMA that had been slowly slipping away. Before August began, in the midst of a summer doldrums, I predicted it would be a heck of a month for the fight game:
All that is about to change next month when the summer finally heats up with great shows all over the map. The fights are amazing across the board, but there are several that I am chomping at the bit to see-five cards, five fights, in four different promotions.
I've never been happier to be right. Last month was one of the most amazing in MMA history. There were a series of great fights all over the map, the kind of fights that don't fade from memory, the kind of fights that make an impact. And as Cageside Seats writer Gene Mrosko points out, it wasn't just the usual suspects delivering the tremendous bouts. Even Japanese MMA pulled its head out of its fourth point of contact long enough to wow us all:
Sengoku though gave us what may have ended up being Fight of the Year. Jorge Santiago and Kazuo Misaki had an unbelievable rematch that went back and forth over the duration of the fight until Misaki's corner threw in the towel with less than 30 seconds remaining in the fight. The scores may have revealed a win for Misaki so the fact that his corner threw in the towel was questionable at first but he later revealed that it was the right decision. Instead of any sort of controversy involved in a decision we got a clean victory in an unreal fight.
August is now behind us and September is off to a great start. Two days in, and we've already got a classic: Bellator's Joe Warren and Joe Soto put themselves on the map as two stars to watch with a tremendous clash for the Bellator Featherweight gold. What else can we look forward to this month? I've got five fights that have me salivating after the break.
5. Antonio McKee vs. Luciano Azevedo: MFC 26 "Retribution," Sept. 10 -- Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
McKee is one of the sport's most controversial figures, at least amongst hardcore fans. Casual fans have no idea who he is - and to him, that's the problem. McKee, to put it kindly, fights very conservatively. You know the fights that fans boo in the arenas, the ones fans decry as "lay and pray?" McKee sometimes makes those fights look like Nick Diaz-Takanori Gomi. He hasn't lost since 2003. He's also only finished a single fight in that time frame (another opponent had to quit with an injury).
This time though, this time will be different. McKee promises he will finish the fight or retire. And Azevedo is no easy mark. He once choked out WEC Featherweight champion Jose Aldo and has fought some serious competition like Hayato Sakurai, Din Thomas, and Rodrigo Damm. This could be a very good fight, good enough to warm a chilly Canadian night.
4. Paul Daley vs. Jorge Masvidal: Shark Fights 13, Sept. 11 -- Amarillo, Texas
The former UFC bad boy is looking to come back strong. Jorge Masvidal is in the way. Although Daley has the UFC pedigree, I think Masvidal (at just 25) is actually a more promising prospect. This is just one of a smorgasboard of incredible fights on this Shark Fights card, headlined by Keith Jardine vs. Trevor Prangley. The announce crew of Bas Rutten and Don Frye is worth $29.95 on their own. Very promising night of fights in Amarillo.
3. Ryan Bader vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: UFC 119, Sept. 25 -- Indianapolis, Indiana
UFC 119 has one of the worst main events in the modern era, a fight between Mirko Cro Cop and Frank Mir that might have wowed them in 2005, but in 2010, leaves my blood cold. What it does have, lurking just beneath the surface, is a great fight between Bader and the twin brother of his Ultimate Fighter coach.
Bader doesn't really get his due. In truth, he's probably the UFC's best prospect at 205 pounds. And this is the night he proves it.
2. Jeremy Horn vs. Bryan Baker: Bellator 30, Sept. 23 -- Louisville, Kentucky
It's a barely hidden secret that Jeremy Horn is one of my all-time favorite fighters. And I realize that his fight with Bryan Baker may not be on the minds of the masses. Too bad! This is my list; if you don't like it make your own! Seriously though, this is one of those interesting fights that shows how a young fighter is progressing. Baker has held his own with several UFC vets. If he beats Horn, I'd expect Joe Silva to be dialing his cell by the end of the night.
1. Mark Hominick vs. Leonard Garcia: WEC 51, September 30 -- Broomfield, Colorado
Leonard Garcia is an exciting fighter. Over and over again, from the USWF to the UFC, he's wowed the crowd with a level of violence that's unusual even for cagefighting. Hominick could be a great foil for him. Both are more than willing to throw down, and both have sneaky submission games as well. To top it off, Jose Aldo will follow the two in the main event. Another triumph of WEC matchmaking that no one will watch.
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RE Bader as the best 205 prospect
Do you think he has the highest ceiling, or are you looking at JBJ’s eventual move to HW?
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I think Bader has better wins and a better pedigree.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 3, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure who I think is the better prospect, but on the subject of better wins I think it’s a matter of timing and context. JBJ may not have as high profile wins but he’s stormed the fighters he’s defeated. I know this doesn’t mean much but Hamill beat Jardine pretty handily and JBJ dominated him before the DQ.
by BurtBacharach on Sep 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, Bader definitely has a better wrestling pedigree but it’s hard to compare with Jones who had such an unorthodox way of getting into MMA. Also I’d say Jones is from the better camp. All that being said, I’d have no idea who to pick in a matchup since it’s too early to say for Jones.
by BurtBacharach on Sep 3, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
bones has way better wins
vera, matyushenko, hammil, bonnar > jardine, schaffer, carmello marrero, and vinny magalhaes
plus jones has never lost a round in the ufc
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
by milk72 on Sep 3, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you are probably right. Doesn’t have a win over Hammill though.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 3, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
ur right but cmon
he basically does
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
Child please...
That’s like calling Fedor’s pre-Werdum loss a loss, except in this case Jones totally destroyed Hammill in a totally one-sided fight…
A rematch would probably have Jones at -1200 or more…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
By rule he doesn't
Kevin Burns also knocked out Anthony Johnson.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
This
He lost that fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 3, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish he knew the rules better
Because if he did there was no way Hamill was going to win that fight and if he survived the end of the round it would’ve been stopped due to the shoulder injury.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Prospect
For predicting who is a better prospect. I think its better to count that as a win. Sure we can question Jones’s in ring composure a bit, but he dominated Hamill and that is what counts for forecasting purposes.
And had the refereee...
bothered to figure out why Hamill couldn’t continue before ending the fight, Jones would be sitting with a TKO on his record and not a loss.
Jones may have committed a rules violation, but it was a reffing error that earned him the L for the Hamill fight.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Exactly
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 4, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he learns from that loss.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 4, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually none of Bader's wins you mentioned are against guys still in the UFC
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Excellent point
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jardine’s still an impressive win.
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jardine’s still an impressive win.
Sure, in 2008…
But even the 2010 version stuffed too many takedowns and survived too long for me to think too much of him…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is 205's best prospect.
Cyrille Diabate? L.A. Cane? Meh?
I can’t think of a better young/new fighter at 205 than Bader.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure that Diabate could be considered a prospect anyway. He’s been around.
Sergio Non,
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I said new or young
Diabate hasn’t fought in the UFC that long.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are the England Patriots?
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
I can only hope there are many more like-minded people out there...
Then sooner or later maybe we’ll get a Jones fight with him under -400 where at least a little money can be made…
At this point, if the fights were announced tomorrow, I can only see Machida as potentially giving him real difficulty at 205, but that could be a great, great fight, or a very one-sided fight for either guy…
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by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
To me the Santiago/Misaki fight is too tainted to be foty.
I know everything over there was legit but that shit wouldn’t fly back here in the states.
Cry me a river, a good fight is a good fight.
Until you can bust out the kind of tenacity and heart those guys showed you should probably keep your mouth closed. firmly.
by destructivist on Sep 3, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure some of that heart and tenacity came in the from of an injection back stage.
Not crying a river it just seems tainted to me.
It wasn't an adrenaline shot
He was given a shot in the ankle. Fuck it.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
The fight was good but definitely not FOTY worthy. Too many lulls on the ground in the early rounds. 4th and 5th can both be ROTY candidates but fight as a whole was slow at times.
Can’t see how anyone could say any fight other than Zombie/Garcia or Jabouin/Homenick is FOTY at this point.
Best in UFC has to be Condit/McDonald
Lesnar-Carwin :-D
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure! And still a few months to go..
by Horselover Fat on Sep 4, 2010 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, couldnt agree more with the Cro-Cop vs. Mir main event matchup. This one is being done a few years to late to hold any relevance. No matter who wins, I have no desire to see them in contention for the championship.
"Pain don’t hurt" James Dalton
"take the biggest guy in the world, shatter his knee and he’ll drop like a stone." James Dalton
Why can’t we care about fights and fighters without titles? Those two fighters create extreme emotional response from viewers. I completely disagree with the idea that it’s a throw away.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 3, 2010 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed.
I have more emotional investment in Cro Cop than any other fighter I’ve never met.
This could be a very good fight too. Cro Cop historically has strong takedown and sub defense while Mir has awful takedowns and notoriously poor cardio. Mirko by TKO (PRIDE NEVER DIE), late in the second.
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Totally understandable
For myself, I enjoy any good fight, titlr or not, this one just does not interest me. I cant get past Mir being totally destroyed in 2 of his last 3 bouts and Mirko’s better years are behind him. Im not saying the fight is a total throw away, just a terrible main event that does not interest me that much.
"Pain don’t hurt" James Dalton
"take the biggest guy in the world, shatter his knee and he’ll drop like a stone." James Dalton
Don’t be ashamed, I’m as big a Horn fan. I hope either victor gets a call up. You actually just made me aware of this fight! Awesome..
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 3, 2010 12:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How could anyone not be a fan of J. Horn?
The dudes got like 3,462 fights, and he’s won most of ’em!
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by RearNakedChoker on Sep 3, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
after what happened last night...
I want to see how warren deals with Omigawa’s boxing. its gonna be a crazy fight.
and what i meant by that is I had hoped that fight was on this list, but I definitely agree that masvidal is one to look out for.
by destructivist on Sep 3, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Warren-Omigawa too. Should have done 10. Miller-Tibau is another one that could be competitively fought at a high level.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 3, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed!
I think it will happen, but not until both are belt contenders or holders.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
so you are predicting a double KO?
"He sucks weiner! He sucks weiner!" - II SMASH II
by Earl Montclair on Sep 3, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha? Has there ever been one of those in UFC history?
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No sir.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 3, 2010 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maynard vs. Emerson?
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by Damon O. on Sep 3, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I remember that. That had to be the one of the if not the most frustrating situation you can have in your career if you’re in Gray Maynard’s position.
by BurtBacharach on Sep 3, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
AHHHH! Right! I forgot that one!
Yeah, that was kinda a crazy situation for Maynard.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
"I wasn't out Joe!"
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"Bro... Bro... Bro... Look at the replay!"
You’re completely unconscious!"
Haha! Classic Rogan.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
"But I wasn't out though!" - Maynard
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Pain don't hurt...
Totally!!!!
Maynard actually achieves a finish, only for it to be himself that he finishes.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Yep
Hughes said he was out but he apparently woke up first.
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
Ref hadn't reach a 10 count, apparent.y...
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
wouldn’t be suprised if Jones knocked himself out with one of those crazy elbows he loves to throw.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 3, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Certainly would be a wrestling exhibition...
… Featureing PLENTY of slams and takedowns.
I’d pay to see it.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m definitely interested in seeing Jones face some adversity, and seeing how he does off his back. But I’m thinking if Jones got the first takedown, he’d end it quickly.
I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not yet, anyway. Title fight in the making.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Needs more Zombie

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by Damon O. on Sep 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This is great fights
Not executions.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Sep 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know right? Where is the Korean Chris Leben when you need him?
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 3, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He's fighting George Roop on the same night as Garcia v. Hominick
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If he walks out to Fela Kuti "Zombie"
I think I’d die.
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Some Zombie funk
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
snowden u dont like mir vs crocop?
i agree that as a main event it sucks but its still a real interesting fight that im gonna be pumped for
im a huge fan of both guys though so i may be biased
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
As a fight, it is very interesting. As a main event, I don’t like it. That’s a co-main.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
totally agree
but ur whole leaves my blood cold comment makes me think u have 0 interest in the fight
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
same here, I would of been much more interested in this fight if it would of happened when Cro Cop was considered death to anyone besides Fedor at the time, & when Mir wasn’t Mir’d. Although I am really looking forward to seeing this fight only because I really like both fighters. When it comes down to who needs a W more, I would say Mir.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 3, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree about the main event sucking. Pat Barry cro cop fight was one of the best comeback wins i’ve seen in awhile and who doesnt love cro cop. When he took the mic from Rogan and started pacing and talking in croation(pride style) i flipped out! Cro Cop is a huge underdog in this fight but if he can beat Mir he will be contender status. Main events that are title fights are not always the most entertaining and to be honest I’m usually a bigger fan of the other fights on the card.

by mr. gogoplata on Sep 3, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The fight isn't quite as hyped because most people realize it for what it is
Yes Mirko is winning fights, but we all know hes not headed towards a championship anytime soon.
And Mir is Mir.
Cruisin on the interstate/just follow while I innovate
Too many try and imitate/medallion like a dinner plate
Front and get ya dinner ate/chinchilla for the winter, wait
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Not at all
Its not really a main event fight. For the reasons I stated above
Cruisin on the interstate/just follow while I innovate
Too many try and imitate/medallion like a dinner plate
Front and get ya dinner ate/chinchilla for the winter, wait
I'm trying to bring the "Sexy Back" like Timbaland and Timberlake
regardless of how you think they fit in the division you cant deny they are exciting fighters to watch.
by mr. gogoplata on Sep 3, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say they weren't
Cruisin on the interstate/just follow while I innovate
Too many try and imitate/medallion like a dinner plate
Front and get ya dinner ate/chinchilla for the winter, wait
I'm trying to bring the "Sexy Back" like Timbaland and Timberlake
I don't respect this fight
Barry went from the aggressor in rd 1 to a “love fest” for the remainder of the fight. He walked into kicks and punches and laughed and “blew kisses” at Cro Cop from his corner in between rds.
It was a weird fight in my opinion.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not taking anything from either as “fighters”. I just thought the fight lost it’s luster after Barry seemingly turned into a fan.
((waiting for “boos” and vegetables to be tossed my way)) :-/
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I somewhat agree, but I think you have to remember that HD broke his foot AND his hand in the first round. Otherwise we might have had a different outcome..
by Horselover Fat on Sep 3, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what does that have to do
with blowing kisses?
i definitely agree it was weird but also think HD has a bright future if he can find his inner-beast.
No I definitely agree that there were too many showings of bromance in the cage, I’m not a fan of that kind of stuff during a fight. It’s best left to after the job is done, in a shady motel room..
What I’m saying though is that you could cut Pat some slack on not being as aggressive after he broke hand and foot, if he’d had all his weapons intact I think rounds 2 & 3 would not have turned out the same. He was obviously hesitant to strike but he had good reason, I don’t see it as just being too much respect for Cro-cop (but I agree there was some of that as well).
by Horselover Fat on Sep 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hominick - Garcia
Now that’s going to be fun. Hominick is way more technical, creative and patient. He will murk Garcia, but it will be fun while it lasts.
Probably. But the truth is that Leonard Garcia could fight Brock Lesnar, make it exciting as fuck
and win a controversial split decision.
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by pdl on Sep 3, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
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by Derek Suboticki on Sep 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hominick is going to nuke Leonard
I’m sorry as entertaining as Garcia is he’s won one too many favorable decisions.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
yep
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton
Hominick vs Garcia is #1 for me, for obvious reasons
Bader vs Nog gets me a little bit because I want to see how Nog handles the wrestling of Bader after that piss poor showing against Brilz.
Cruisin on the interstate/just follow while I innovate
Too many try and imitate/medallion like a dinner plate
Front and get ya dinner ate/chinchilla for the winter, wait
I'm trying to bring the "Sexy Back" like Timbaland and Timberlake
Damnit! I almost forgot about that fight..
Bader via wrestling.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 3, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I give Nog a little bit of a pass because Brilz wasn't his initial opponent
But I personally thought Brilz won that fight
Cruisin on the interstate/just follow while I innovate
Too many try and imitate/medallion like a dinner plate
Front and get ya dinner ate/chinchilla for the winter, wait
I'm trying to bring the "Sexy Back" like Timbaland and Timberlake
I agree
Brilz got Machida vs Shogun 1’d. If that makes sense.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 3, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He got Cecil'd
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by Damon O. on Sep 3, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Disagree
I thought it was a close fight where Nog won the first round, Brilz clearly the second (10-9), and the third one was a toss-up but I still had Nog winning it by a slight margin if I had to choose one.
I think the fact that Brilz so clearly (and unexpectedly) won the second round is somewhat clouding peoples perception of that decision. The other rounds were obviously very close but as I said I had Lil Nog winning them anyways.
I don’t see it as a controversial decision at all, although I would’ve been fine with a draw or Brilz win too.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 3, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir vs. Cro Cop is an interesting fight because of the style matchup.
Cro Cop’s TDD will keep this fight on the feet and Mir’s striking is not in the same league as Cro Cop’s. This is a fight Cro Cop can definitely win.
word son Mirko is no slouch on the ground work either he has beaten better submission artist than Mir in the past.
by mr. gogoplata on Sep 3, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could figure out why Mir,
Prick that many feel he is, gets so little love for his BJJ game…not going to be winning the Mundial’s, but he has a very good, if a little unorthadox, BJJ for MMA game…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying he is bad at all but Cro Cop dominated Josh Barnett more than once and I consider him at a higher level than Mir. Mir seems to only be able to sumbit guys who are far below his bjj level.
by mr. gogoplata on Sep 3, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but Barnett’s catch wrestling style =/= BJJ, despite his no-gi success competing as a white belt.
Mir, while seemingly not as technical as some, has adapted his well for MMA, both for positional control and submissions.
If the guy could just learn to take people down…and handle getting hit…and cardio…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
Haters are gonna hate and bitches are gonna bitch...
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 3, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir has awful positional control
and just dives for submissions. Just because Drysdale can do it doesn’t mean you can, Frank. He leaves himself open all the time for guys with basic grappling skill to neurtalize and the punish him. See: Brandon Vera and Brock Lesnar.
Also, how many submissions does Mir have outside of the first half of the first round? I’ll give you a hint. It’s none.
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by pdl on Sep 3, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think its a riot seeing Snowden bash a Mir/Crocop main event and champion a Jardine/Prangley main event when he’s interviewing Don Frye. Because clearly Keith Jardine is a much more relevant fighter than Frank Mir.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
by Stanlee on Sep 3, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Right, because there isn’t a different standard for a regional event and a numbered UFC PPV…..
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 3, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I see what you’re saying… I’ve always taken the “great card is a great card” approach… not the “weak card is a great card if you lower your standards enough” approach.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
UFC 119 has one of the worst main events in the modern era, a fight between Mirko Cro Cop and Frank Mir that might have wowed them in 2005, but in 2010, leaves my blood cold
Funny I feel the same about this article, if these are the 5 fights that are supposed to heat up Autumn then it’s time to break out the winder gear. Seriously can we can 2 piece from you that doesn’t have a bitter anti-zuffa shot hidden in the article it’s becoming a bad running joke here. .
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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I AM SO BITTER! I hate it when they give me fights I want to see!
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, this is why we can't have nice things.
"I got a good Christian raising and a 8th grade education / Ain't no need in y'all in treating me this way." - Billy Joe Shaver
it’s becoming a bad running joke here. .
Ha.
Ha.
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
Well, I guess that's one thing we agree on Snowden
I love watching Jeremy Horn fight. He’s an mma legend and one of my favorites of all time. I can’t wait for his fight against Rosholt at King of the Cage in October either.

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