No, Nick Diaz Doesn't Want to Talk With You About His Fight Next Weekend
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 9:54 AM EDT
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Nick Diaz is fighting K.J Noons in the main event of a Strikeforce card next weekend. Between Chael Sonnen's failed drug test and the aftermath of UFC 119, I can forgive you if you missed the blurb as it was buried by a slew of other stories. It's tough for Strikeforce and other groups to get press coverage with the UFC running so many shows - but when it is their time to shine they hardly make the most of it.
Not only does Diaz cut himself off from the world before a fight, refusing any and all media requests, he doesn't even make an effort of the cursory variety. Yesterday Diaz and Noons were supposed to meet the press on a conference call to tout the fight. Noons was there. Diaz was a no show.
"Pretty unprofessional," Noons said. And he was right on the money. Noons and Diaz had a custom built feud, prepackaged and ready to sell to the media. How often can you say that in Strikeforce, a promotion with limited history on the national stage?
In 2007 Noons upset Diaz in an Elite XC bout, outboxing him and stifling any attempt to take the fight to the ground. Soon words were flying, later water bottles and other assundry during a 2008 brawl. After Noons defended his title against Yves Edwards in June 2008, Diaz hit the cage to challenge the champion to a rematch. "Don't be scare homie," Diaz famously said. No one looked too scared, especially Noon's father Karl who cursed, carried on, and chased the Cesar Gracie team out of the cage.
Two years later, Diaz and his team are trying to downplay the incident. Diaz's manager/trainer Cesar Gracie won't even acknowledge this is more than just another fight for Diaz. It's inexplicable, and MMA Fighting's Mike Chiapetta looked to get to the bottom of Diaz's reluctance to sell the fight:
"He just doesn't operate in that mindset of this is a sport and we're going to talk about it, and shake hands in the middle of the ring," Gracie explained when asked by MMA Fighting about Diaz's conference call objections. "It's contrary to what makes him tick. He's not going to talk to someone on the phone that he's going to fight.
Whether Diaz wants to meet with the media or not, it's his obligation. He doesn't owe it to us or to the fans. He owes it to Strikeforce and Showtime, two entities that put their trust in Diaz to carry their show on his back. The main eventer has a special duty, not just to do a few media spots, but to sell the fight. It's your job. Time for Nick Diaz to put in work.
UPDATE: Reader "Ruckus" points out something very interesting indeed. Diaz's no-show of the conference call has created a ton of stories about how unprofessional he is, what a loose cannon. Him not appearing at all generated more attention than a few tepid and disinterested quotes would have. Is Nick Diaz an unintentional marketing genius?
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this is the second article I’ve read in the last 5 minutes about how Nick Diaz isn’t doing enough to garner media attention
Kinda funny
by ruckus on Sep 29, 2010 9:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That’s interesting. Nick Diaz is an unintentional genius.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
those might generate some stories in the mma world, where it isn’t neither. People in the mma world already want to see the fight because they love/hate nick.
This comes off as unprofessonal to outside media, and could turn them off, especially if they weren’t given a heads up that nick wasn’t going to be on the call.
meh
Its kind of ridiculous that we always assume that MMA fighters are doing things that the main stream sports media have never had to deal with and will react strongly to.
People always seem to say… how will the main stream media react to this? or how will the main stream media react to that? There is NOTHING an mma athlete can do that the main stream media hasn’t already dealt with and doesn’t deal with on a very regular basis.
MMA would have gone main stream a long time ago if MMA guys were doing something terribly unique. (other than fighting like champions of course)
also
unprofessionalism turning off the media?
come on….
yall are bein silly
he just got high and forgot
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Diaz and genius. What an oxymoron
Forever indebted to CroCop's left leg for getting me into MMA
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 29, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions
If he has a history of not hyping his fights and the promoter still books him as the main event expecting him to do something that he never does, wouldn’t the blame be on the promoter?
What're the odds of this happeneing again?
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by Damon O. on Sep 29, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
cant believe i missed this gif.. awesomeness.. for some reason the odd remark of the random hot girl just makes me laugh hysterically since it has no relevance to the situation.
me too
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 29, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
All talk about Diaz professionalism = whatever
It’s a fight not a conference call.
The job of a fighter is to fight.
The job of the promoter is to promote the fight. ’nuff said.
Just because some fighters have the gift of gab or mindstate to sit down and answer questions, or provide cute anecdotes that does not necessarily mean they’re “selling” the fight.
Do you really want Nick Diaz attempting to sell ad space in local airwaves to a radio station’s sales department? I didn’t think so.
This is my position and I’m sticking to it.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That’s a position that loses fighters and promoters a lot of money!
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s a history of belligerent fighters that were never media friendly or saavy that still raised interest in their fights. Not to mention there’s a lot of coaches and athletes that view the media with open contempt in the NBA, NFL and MLB. How does it hurt their potential earnings . . . we don’t know.
- Charles Barkley was never a sweetheart but his attitude and loudmouth eventually became his schtick.
- The last thing I want is for all my athletes to be camera-ready with the camera-ready awkward smile.
Promoters need to get creative.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Name one MMA star who drew big money that didn’t know how to work with the media?
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Name one MMA star who drew big money
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So Fedor is not an MMA star? What about Brock Lesnar? He doesn’t seem to really like to engage the media. i.e. everytime the roids issue comes up or post UFC 100
Brock Lesnar projects a great image for the media and does everything the UFC asks (for the most part). He did Bill Simmons and tons of other stuff in support of Carwin and did lots of UFC 100 stuff.
Fedor is a great fighter who wasn’t a great draw. Of course, Fedor and his people did a great job of working the media before his CBS fight.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
How on earth can you claim that he didn't draw big money?
He’s the the only fighter that can ask for and get $1M a fight without being in the UFC.
He’s the difference between 5.5M viewers on CBS and 3M.
Anyway, I agree with your premise. Diaz is costing Strikeforce by downplaying the rivalry and shunning the media.
Did Chuck Liddell ever really work the media?
He usually offers cliche statements about how he’s going to knockout his opponent. Chuck, in my opinion, never really had a super personality. The main reason why he’s an icon in the sport is more or less his in ring performance. I respect the fact that you have a greater knowledge of the history of the sport but can you name one great Liddell moment outside the cage? All Liddell has to do to work the media is simply show up for a scheduled appearance, he does nothing special beyond that.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Chuck and his team did as much media work as anyone. UFC All Access, ESPN: The Magazine, nationwide media tours in support of the UFC.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Was he ever really engaging?
Did his personality ever transcend what he did in the cage?
I like Chuck. He’s cool for a cameo role in a music video or film but he’s doesn’t compare to Tito Ortiz when it comes to “working” the media.
A guy like Chuck Liddell makes obligatory appearances.
A guy like Tito Ortiz makes media stories, he sells passion and drama.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
… but the point is Chuck makes the appearances. He puts in the work. Whether he is any good at it is entirely beside the point.
I get that.
For the most part, most fighters simply show up and answer repetitive questions ad nauseum. That’s definitely a part of being professional.
Now would I say that they’re “selling” the fight because they answered easy questions and showed their face? Not really. If you’re the champion, opportunites will be appearing at your doorstep daily. There’s no real extra effort.
Guys that really work the media and the fans:
- Tom Lawlor
- Jason Miller
- King Mo Lawal
- Chael Sonnen
- Frank Mir
- Forrest Griffin
- Josh Koscheck
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
With respect, I don’t think you’re understanding the difference between helping sell a fight and being a charming cad.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I got the difference but I just don’t see the big deal between a fighter that simply answers questions compared to the guy that doesn’t want to answer questions or even show up.
We all know Diaz doesn’t want to “play the game” as Dana White put it. This is not the first time Diaz has done this to Scott Coker. It baffled Frank Shamrock’s mind because he felt Diaz could be a bigger star in MMA.
For the most part, I think the charming cads, the characters and some of the assh*les actually helps sells fights.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Who could forget his fine work on 'Good Morning Houston'
by Steve4192 on Sep 29, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, that’s funny but that’s a cheap shot.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
No Incentive
That happens when they have incentive to increase viewership. In the UFC, if you make the company money, it may not be returned immediately, but there will be an opportunity down the road. What does he have to gain if 375,000 watch instead of 350,000?
Strikeforce gets to stay on the air, gets more money per card, gets to pay fighters more or continue paying fighters at all?
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody Cares
The sad thing is that nobody knows and most people don’t care that the fight is even happening. Considering that Showtime says they measure success by new viewers, their outside marketing blows. I watch nearly everything I can MMA, but if I didn’t visit the various MMA sites daily, I would have no idea their was a fight on Saturday. It does look terrible for him to blow them off and perhaps they should punish him, but what long-term harm is done if nobody was listening anyways.
I signed up for Showtime for Heavy Artillery and so did two other of my friends
If you like MMA why not plus they have Dexter I would like to know how many new viewers theyve signed on? Plus not everyone watches it live theyre showing more and more old strikeforce events.
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 29, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor promotion.
I’m not saying that it doesn’t attract subscribers, just not very many. As long as the only people that know about a fight either get Showtime, or are hardcores on Sherdog or BloodyElbow, they are marketing to a very limited group. I understand it costs a lot to market in other places, but no matter how good of a product you have, people won’t buy it if they don’t know about it.
Casuals wont be listening to a conference call
If they want to market him or the fight they need to do it in a mainstream way. Maybe have a quick 15 minute Showtime sports special on OnDemand or somewhere.
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 29, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, so did I
The had a two for one going on, too, where you get Starz and Showtime for $13/mo.
If Nick has now decided he is "unwilling" to fight Mayham at 185
Can they just have a catchweight fight so Mayham can at least tap him out, if not make him STFU…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
If = Since
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick doesn’t strike me as a guy sharp enough to be doing this intentionally. Maybe he realizes how much of an ass he’ll look like if he talks big and loses. Just maybe.
by kanodogg on Sep 29, 2010 10:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Hey Snowden . . .
Whether Diaz wants to meet with the media or not, it’s his obligation.
If he has contractual obligation to make all media appearances and he does not then does he get fined? I don’t think so. I don’t know if it is written in his contract.
The main eventer has a special duty, not just to do a few media spots, but to sell the fight. It’s your job.
Come Saturday night, I don’t think any one will reallly care if he missed a conference call or some media obligations. Remember, he’s only obligated if it is in his contract or if it will affect his purse. Other than that, his job is to train (or not), enter the cage and fight. Simple.
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This is not the NBA where guys get fined $10,000 or more for blowing off the media. This is the fight business. It is what it is.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re right, the people watching won’t care. The people not watching, because there was little media coverage, they didn’t care, and they didn’t remember to set their DVR – those are the key people.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Very well put.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s the whole point of this media stuff. Try and make something pop that transcends the die hard fans and accumulate new ones. Very difficult, especially for a group like Strikeforce.
by BurtBacharach on Sep 29, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
As an aside
Any theories on why Mayhem has been marketed more effectively? Guy has been finished twice, a tko 4+ years ago and submitted 8 years ago. Since then, he has held his own against some of the best MMA BJJ guys in the world (Shields, Jacare) and is an entertaining presence.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
because mayhem busts his ass to be a media whore.
he is marketed more effectively because he doesn’t sit back and wait for someone else to do it for him. He got himself a tv show, he wandered into the cage in nashville, he does a million interviews for himself.
Good points
I actually intended to ask why he hasn’t been marketed or promoted more effectively by his orgs.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I know why the people not watching didn’t care, because there’s a serious lack of ad spots on Sherdog, BE, or mmajunkie.
I’m a fan and I don’t know too much about the event outside of “Diaz did not participate in the conference call.” That’s a news item.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
The people not watching, they wouldn’t be watching if Diaz came out to the conference call.
MMA is polarizing. Either you like it or you don’t and those who like it enough to pay for it will pay over and over, regardless of what kind of hype there is before the fight.
I have lots of friends who like it but wouldn’t pay for it, ever. They’ll watch at the bar if that is where everyone is going and they’ll watch the free shit. But they always say no if they are asked if they want to order a PPV.
I’m not trying to insult you or anything like that. I just don’t think the MMA media has nearly as much of an impact on the revenue generated as the MMA media thinks it has.
I remember hearing an interview with Dana saying he’d love to have Nick Diaz back in the UFC, but wouldn’t do it until he was convinced Nick can “play the game.” I think this is a perfect example of why it’ll be a while before we see him back there.
If he really wants to back up his GSP smack talk he’s gonna have to prove to Uncle Dana that he can be a team player. Then again, maybe not if GSP ends up whooping Koscheck, Shields and possibly Fitch. They’ll be pretty damn desperate for contenders at that point.
By that time
Guys like Hendricks and hathaway will be top contenders, as well as Askren once he comes to the dark side.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Nick Diaz
There’s a kind of purity in what he does. He’s never been caught up in his own hype or fame, he doesn’t like to spread himself thin and answer inane questions for the media. He’s just an angry dude who likes to beat people up. I like that.
"There's this image that you have, this interior image of something that's absolutely perfect, and that's your signpost, your guide. And you'll never get there. But without it you'll never get anywhere."
by crazybones on Sep 29, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
exactly
Nate is the same too. I remember how he got friendly with a guy called Wayne Weems, by far the weakest fighter there, on TUF 5. A bully would have ridiculed Weems the way Chris Leben did Jason Thacker. I think a lot of the Diaz brothers, two hard working, dedicated tough guys who don’t give a shit, but aren’t bullies.
The difference between Nate & Nick is that one has a boss who commands respect and the other has a boss who is a complete pushover.
Just another example of fighters walking all over 'Mr Nice Guy' Scott Coker
Can you imagine Nick blowing off a conference call that Dana had put together?
I didn’t think so.
Say what you will about Dana’s abrasive personality, but at least he doesn’t let the inmates run the asylum.
I was referring more to the “inmate running the asylum” comment. Brock can pretty much do what he wants.
http://www.instrength.com
I think UFC 100 proves otherwise. Brock dissed a sponsor, Brock got read the riot act in the locker room, Brock showed up at the press conference contrite and asking for a Bud Light.
Asking a guy to do a Primetime show is not part of the ‘normal’ expectations placed on a fighter. That is asking a fighter to go above and beyond what is normally expected of him. Dana asked. Brock declined. Fair play.
That is very different than a guy blowing off something that is considered part of the normal everyday expectations placed on a fighter.
At whatever point Brock loses again
I suspect he will be more receptive to going to even that extreme…
Then again, the guy has walked away from big money before…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Regarding your comment...
Had the identical thing happened in Strikeforce, would Coker have nutted up and done something about it?
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Strikeforce brawl was a good thing for them though….
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
True
But it could have been a much better thing for them – and it still could.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember when the Strikeforce brawl happened
Strikeforce brawl was a good thing for them though….
Everyone on here was bashing Strikeforce and saying how unprofessional they are if that would fold the promotion. Also Gus Johnson saying this sort of stuff happens in MMA lol.
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 29, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Other thoughts from the community:
It was a horrible black eye for MMA on national television.
It was a great setup for a rematch of Miller and Shields.
Gus Johnson ruined a fight with commentary.
War Diaz probably called Nick the greatest sucker puncher of all time.
A black eye no casual viewer remembers or even cares about
The guardians of MMA are us. We are hypersensitive to stuff when it goes down. Bad PR to us was a blip on the radar for people going on youtube and checking it out.
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 29, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Embarrassing their main sponsors on the biggest show in their history is a lot worse than blowing off a conference call though. Brock has blown off things he doesn’t like his entire life. Him turning down a Primetime his boss asked him to do and explaining it away as “fair play” or “above and beyond” seems sort of hypocritical, considering what Diaz is being asked to do is “above and beyond” as well. Brock’s notorious for not wanting to do media stuff.
Basically, I think there’s a bit of a double standard and people are just trying to put all the blame on Scott Coker when there’s not much blame to be assigned here except to one person…Nick Diaz.
http://www.instrength.com
Him turning down a Primetime his boss asked him to do and explaining it away as "fair play" or "above and beyond" seems sort of hypocritical, considering what Diaz is being asked to do is "above and beyond" as well
LOL
Since when is asking a guy to pick up a phone for 45 minutes considered ‘above and beyond’?
I wonder how many lost PPV’s from Brock not doing a primetime?
by Papercut Elbow on Sep 29, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Snowden, we need a community interview with Nick Diaz. Don’t be scared homie!!!
If you want to hear my opinion on Les Miles go to BJPenn.com.
i suggest Snowden bring a couple blunts and throw them at the ground in front of Diaz… as kind of peace offering… before he gets too close and interviews him.
I can do this when he isn’t fighting. Start thinking of your questions.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn just like that?
Ask and you shall recieve folks!
If you want to hear my opinion on Les Miles go to BJPenn.com.
First question
What weight will you fight Mayhem at? That is one of the only readily hyped fights SF could push, and I suspect Mayhem might goad Nick into at least replying through the media, if not getting completely under his skin.
Coker is foolish for having let this one go untouched…
Then again, if I were Nick Diaz, I wouldn’t want to fight Mayhem at anything over 170, and even then very reluctantly…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
NIck Diaz is the new Brock Lesnar!!
He trains ALLL high up in gracie’s camp near the mountains..
Trains like beast..
chooses to stay quiet and to himself..
Unleashes mad hate and aggression when asked about random things…
Spouts off and doesnt give a shit about his promotion much less sponsors..
Doesn’t take conference calls,,
if only he would trade off the blunt for a tractor.. or axe.. and we would have.. Brock Lesnar.
scratch that..
IF nick diaz ATE the blunt then the tractor.. you would have brock lesnar.
by waldog on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why is anyone surprised by this?
This is standard Diaz brother protocol. Nate Diaz skipped the conference call for his fight with Guillard at an UFN. “Oh no the Diaz brothers doing what they literally all do…”
Just so no one is confused
Nick Diaz is my favorite fighter. I just wanted to say that.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Did you see my avatar?
Go Diaz . . . this should be a good fight.
Strikeforce as promoters . . . not so good.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen
They can’t even figure out how to make use of their most obvious issue and have Diaz and Mayhem fight…
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I realize the joke comment above, but is there a chance you might be able to interview him? That’d be cool as hell.
http://www.instrength.com
Diaz really is my favorite fighter and I really do think I can interview him. I’ve never had a single fighter in the sport elude my grasp except Chuck Liddell.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I never pursued too hard. I was set to interview him after UFC 88 in Atlanta, but he had to go to the hospital and I rushed back to put together a package of content that UGO didn’t publish for three days. Stayed up all night getting it done and it shows up on the site Tuesday I think.
by Jonathan Snowden on Sep 29, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If you do...
I would love to know what weight he enters the cage, both when he fights at WW and when he has fought at MW?
Looking at the difference in Nate’s physique in the cage between his fights at 170 and those at 155 lead me to believe he is dieting down rather than doing scientific weight cutting…not sure about Nick.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And I wasn’t referring to the favorite fighter comment being a joke, I was referring to agreeing to using the joint trail to get him close enough.
http://www.instrength.com
seriously tho
are you going to have a post where we can give some input on questions or do it here?
personally i have two interests.. from what i can tell diaz and his brother.. don’t have the best wrestling.. compared to either there skills set or there compadres at camp gracie. Does this have to do with there personal choice in how they want the fight to go? The camps choice based on strategy of body type and skill? or here is what I’m getting at..
Does the Diaz’s train with Melendez and Shields on a regular basis? and who are their main training partners that have a high ranking in wrestling?
(as far as I know all three have different schools in the bay area.. )
Also We know that Nick has amazing cardio beyond belief but I’m interested in other types of exercises he does outside of sparring and technique.
questions like.. Do you utilize plyometrics and box jumping on a regular basis.. What does he do for Explosive strength training? Weightlifting?
Does he feel the cut to 170 is perfect for him.? Could he put on more lbs of muscle to compete with a GSP.? or does he feel a constant pace is what he likes and pressure is his game.. more muscle would tire him?
Finally What is his favorite MMJ strain? does he prefer the Kush or is he more of a straight Afghan fan?
These are the hard hitting questions I want to know!
Well...
Don’t ask him about mayhem unless you lead in with “when are we going to get to see you ktfo of mayhem…”
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer
As for being well rounded... "The fox devises many strategies, the hedgehog only one, but he uses it very effectively." -Archilochus
by BigDNotDallas on Sep 29, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you being serious?
I understand if you are, but before you get on Nick about not being nice to the media you should get on him for not taking advantage of his earning potential.
plain and simple
nick diaz in my opinion acts like a little kid promoting a fight and doing media is part of the job. like it or not it’s the truth. he’s a fighter and fighting is the most important part of his job but it’s not his only duty that he must fulfill. if you sell cars then selling cars is the most important part of your job but it’s far from the only duty you must fulfill
that’s one of the reasons people didn’t like carwin not wanting to do the media shit before the lesnar fight. (among other things)
this is one of, if not the only reasons nick is not with the ufc. he refuses to do his job. he refuses to play by the rules. if me or you did this at our job we would get fired and that’s the only reason it brings discontent from me.
does it really matter enough to warrant all this silly arguing?
naw not really…..i mean i’m sure his bosses would prefer that he live up to his obligations nothing sells a fight like hatred and it’s always good to make that hatred seen and known. however strikeforce knew what they were getting into when they signed him. everyone knew this was the reason a fighter of his caliber wasn’t in the ufc.
in the end nick is hurting himself more than anyone else
once his career as a fighter is over and he’s neglected the spotlight that could have been shown on him all these years his star power will decline VERY rapidly. in the end his immaturity will come back to bite him in the ass.
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 29, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
i just re read that garbled mess and it's anything but plain and simple
my bad it’s early and i’m a lil high
happy national coffee day bloodyelbow
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
gettin’ high on a wednesday morning…oh, how that brings me back.
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Sep 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
hump day
and i figured since it was an article about nick diaz i could feel free to let everyone know i’m smoking on the earth’s finest
The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 29, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
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The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. It saves on introductions and goodbyes. The ride does not require explanation - just occupance.
by Johnathan Willis on Sep 29, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as the kid can fight that's all the matters...
I can give a shit if he does or doesn’t want to talk to the media.
If you want to hear my opinion on Les Miles go to BJPenn.com.
by DayGeaux on Sep 29, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
People don't seem to understand
that Diaz isn’t doing this for reason A B or C. It is just who he is as a person. He is comfortable with where he is at and what he is making. Big fish in a small pond. Strikeforce isn’t over bearing, he loves that. Coker doesn’t play dad, he loves that. He gets paid to do what he wants when he wants, he loves that. Those are the very reasons I love Nick Diaz.
Things to ask Nick:
Would you take triple your current pay to fight in the UFC but you would have to comply with ALL of Danas requests? That includes pressers, conference call, media days and all the other stuff.
We all know about your competing in triathlons, do you think this makes a serious statement about marijuana and the implied health effects?
BJ Penn stated in his book, his biggest regret was not giving Gracie a portion of his prize money when he started. Do you think the fences can ever be mended?
If you could pick any 5 people, dead or alive, who would you smoke with?
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