Judo Chop: C.B. Dollaway Gets the Elbow Lift Guillotine
While it's true that UFC 119 was marred by a lousy headlining fight, the undercard included some sparkling action. In particular, C.B. Dollaway's quick submission over veteran Joe Doerksen impressed everyone watching.
With his third submission win, including one using the Peruvian Necktie, Dollaway is showing flashes of evolving into a Matt Hughes or Jake Shields style wrestler/grappler.
As any reader of this series knows, I don't train myself and have no martial arts or sport combat experience whatsoever. As such I'm always on the lookout for bright students of the game who can explain what I'm seeing. Today's guest is Andrew Foster, who has been studying No-Gi submission grappling and BJJ since 2005. He trained at the Chapel Hill Quest Center under Hardee Merritt (purple belt under Royce Gracie) and is currently a blue belt at Evolutiion MMA in Wrightsville Beach, NC. Our BJJ is from the Nova Uniao lineage. My teachers are Jeremy Owens (black belt) and Dave French (brown belt), and Neal Zumbro (brown belt) under BJ Penn's BJJ coach Renato "Charuto" Verissimo.
Here's Andrew describing the guillotine variation that C.B. Dollaway used to such deadly effect against Joe Doerksen:
The hip drop/elbow lift/leg over the shoulder/side crunch/Marcelo Guillotine is absolutely the best variation of the choke in existence. You're squeezing the neck very tight, but the elbow flare and lift pulls the forearm right up into the trachea. It cuts off the blood, and you can sleep from it, but the primary action for this Guillotine is attacking the trachea. Matt Arroyo showed the choke and had a student puke on him. Most people tap immediately. There's really no time to think or ride out the choke once it's on. For someone to be able to even stand the pain for 3-6 seconds to even go to sleep would be a great feet.
The elbow lift accomplishes a few things. It prevents the opponent from bulldozing into you to relieve the pressure. That works with the old-school full guard Guillotine, which I haven't caught anyone with in forever, and I do think it will be phased out as time passes. The elbow lift can also be used to help keep someone on all fours if you are on your knees setting up the choke. Leo Vieira did this beautifully against Ryan Hall at ADCC 2009. Ryan was on his knees in the front headlock, and Leo was on his knees. He lifted the elbow up and over Ryan's back so Ryan couldn't posture up. Then Leo threw the leg over the shoulder and the tap came almost immediately.
The elbow lift also makes it so that the choke can be finished anywhere. In a full guard Guillotine, if your opponent jumps his body to your left side, and you have his head under your right arm, you lose the choke. With the elbow flared up, they are typically completely on the choking side of your body (let's pretend the right side again). If they do manage to jump over you before you can throw your left leg over their back/shoulder, they will still be in the choke as they land. If you finish from the mount, the elbow lift allows you to post your forehead on the mat when finishing from the mount, giving you more stability.
Those are some of the details about the workings of the choke that make it so special. Literally all you have to do is get control of their head, and then get to the front headlock. This Guillotine can be finished from so many positions it's scary. The elbow lift is almost as secure as getting the non-choking arm behind the neck in the Rear Naked Choke.
Let's look at the action in the full entry. We'll also look at how Sean Sherk managed to escape Evan Dunham's guillotine chokes, a grappling battle between Marcelo Garcia and Jake Shields, and Marcelo Garcia and Matt Arroyo demo'ing the choke so effectively that his demo partner vomits.
Gifs by Chris Nelson
Here's Andrew Foster breaking down the action:
Here C.B. throws a right lateral shin kick to Joe's ribs. Joe catches the kick, and it appears that C.B. is attempting to turn away and pull his leg free, but Joe follows up by sweeping the back of C.B.'s support leg for the take down. It's hard to tell what caused Joe's initial forward fall, maybe overcommitment or simply the angle at which C.B. fell. Either way, C.B.'s high grappling IQ allows him to turn into Joe, forcing him up against the fence with minimal resistance. C.B. has a very clear sense of where their bodies are positioned in space, and this lets him keep his cool to take the top position with Joe against the fence.
C.B. shifts his hips to square up with Joe. C.B. is momentarily in a postion to drop to side control or attack from knee-on-belly, but Joe re-shoots from his knees. C.B.'s wonderful wrestling skills allow him to square off with a solid sprawl, and he has many options to attack from the front headlock, before Joe get to his feet and presses C.B. up against the fence. It is important to note that as Joe re-shoots, C.B. takes the time to create enough distance between himself and Joe to shoot for a right underhook. So even though Joe has C.B. against the fence, C.B. is still in a neutral position because he has gotten an underhook under Joe's left armpit.
Here C.B. immediately secures a front headlock. It is hard to tell whether he secured the headlock because Joe was going for the takedown, or whether C.B. initiated the front headlock and Joe decided to go for a takedown afterwards, This all happens in a split second. Joe turns to take C.B. to the ground, but C.B. uses his right overhook and his grip around Joe's head to create an arm-in Guillotine choke. C.B. uses his left leg to aid the momentum of Joe's on take down to sweep Joe overhead. At the end of the GIF we can begin to see C.B. turn onto his his right side to lock in the closed guard.
Sensing that he his in danger, Joe does a very good job of trying to jump to the left side of C.B.'s body. In a traditional, closed-guard guillotine, jumping your body to the side away from your trapped head will prevent you from being choked. It will also give you the options to attack with a Kimura on their choking arm, or even try the famous Von Flue choke. C.B.is obviously well versed in the Guillotine and traps Joe's jumping body with his left leg, preventing the jump that would cancel out the Guillotine. From here, C.B. locks in the full closed guard and is ready to submit Joe with the arm-in Guillotine. Joe knows he is in danger and wisely posts on his feet, driving his shoulder into C.B.'s chest to help take the pressure off his trachea and arteries. It is interesting to note that when Joe jumped to escape C.B. closing his guard, his right leg came very close to the fence. We may have been in for an interesting scramble if the fence had blocked Joe's jump.
At this point, both fighters had been in the arm-in Guillotine for some time. This Guillotine is harder to finish than most unless you're Jake Shields. It appears that C.B. wants to go from the arm-in to the arm-out Guillotine, which will allow him to put an insane amount of pressure on the neck/arteries/trachea. He moves to his side, which is smart because the oblique-crunch Guillotine is arguably of the most powerful. All C.B.needs to do is free his left hand and reconnect it to his right hand, but in front of Joe's shoulder to create the arm-out Guillotine. This hip/side-drop gives a split second opening for Joe, giving him a chance to try to jump to the safe side again. C.B. catches Joe's right leg with his foot, preventing the jump. Joe ends up almost doing a cartwheel, but landing on his knees. As he lands, C.B. has the arm out Guillotine and his left elbow is lifting. This is KEY! The elbow lift Guillotine does a few things. It prevents your opponent from pressing their weight into you to create space for their neck. It gives the fighter doing the Guillotine more leverage to create a more powerful choke, causing an almost immediate tap. it also negates the safety of being able to jump to the safe side. There is no "safe side" when the elbow is lifted in the Guillotine.
Now that the elbow is lifted, C.B.'s main goal is going to be to get his left leg IN FRONT of Joe's right shoulder. He attempts this but Joe front flips in an attempt to escape. C.B. gets back to his knees, posts his left foot, and almost does a baseball slide motion with his right leg bent to get to his side. Notice the lifting left elbow throughout t the process. As he slides, Joe flips once again. The third time proves to be the charm. C.B. manages to not only get his left leg in front of Joe's shoulder, but he also blocks Joe's right leg with his foot, preventing another roll/flip. From here, the Guillotine is all but finished.
C.B. has really followed Marcelo Garcia (the master who reinvented the Guillotine) by following the Guillotine through until the very end. C.B.'s best bet here is to finish the choke by going to the full mount. C.B.'s kept his left leg in front of Joe's right shoulder, so when he floats over to the mount, he has even more leverage to finish the choke. Notice how C.B. is not posting on his knees from the mount and arching his back to finish to choke. His right foot is posted along with his own forehead. This is much more powerful than staying on your knees and arching your back. Also, if somehow Joe's head popped out, he would have the full mount and even a strong chance to set-up a Triangle choke from the mount.
On the left is a bonus gif showing the choke from another angle.
Here's Andrew Foster again explaining how Sean Sherk escaped from Evan Dunham's guillotine at UFC 119:
In the first GIF we see Sherk in Dunham's Guillotine while both fighters are standing. Dunham has his left elbow lifted like the Marcelo Garcia style Guillotine. Although Sherk could still go to sleep from this pressure, Dunham's forearm cutting like a knife into Sherk's throat is the primary threat to Sherk tapping. Sherk is in luck, as his body is not controlled since both fighters are standing. Sherk explosively turns to his left, until his chin is in line with Dunham's elbow. As Sherk turns, he is still in danger, and is having a hard time getting his throat off Dunham's forearm. It is not until his right hip touches the mat that he appears to be safe from the choke. Although he is out of the frying pan, he is in danger for the North/South choke, also famously referred to as the Monson choke. Jeff Monson made this choke famous at UFC 57, and Marcelo Garcia used the choke at the 2007 Abu Dhabi Submission Wrestling Championships to score the Gold medal. He also used the choke twice in a row at the 2010 Mundials (World BJJ Championships).
It appears that Dunham might be thinking about going for the North/South choke. He was definitely in the perfect position to do so. There are several reasons why Dunham may have elected to not pursue the North/South choke, discussing it here would be mere speculation. Instead, Dunham transitions to the seatbelt grip and elects to take Sherk's back. Regardless, this is a very smooth transition from an excellent grappler.
Marcelo Garcia explaining his Guillotine:
Here is a link to Marcelo Garcia's Guillotine as taught by Matt Arroyo, who learned the choke from Marcelo personally: He talks about floating over the mount also.
Here's a Marcelo Garcia HL video with plenty of his trademark guillotines:
Here's Marcelo Garcia using the exact same finish on Jake Shields in a submission grappling match:
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I cant stand his face
But wish him all the luck in maturing into a great fighter!
Awesome write up.
This was the highlight of the night for me.
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by soxrule!35 on Sep 29, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
At first sight it seems like CB intentionally put all his body weight into that dive to make Doerksen fall on his face (Excuse my english, please)
Actually I think you're half right
Dolloway was expecting Doerksen to let go of his foot, but he held on and Dolloway’s body weight dragged him down.
Your English is fine. :)
Get rid of the ramp!
I wish you'd stick to these
as opposed to opinion pieces. These are easily some of my favorite articles on the website. Great write up
by Patrick John McGreevy on Sep 29, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Guess that sounded pretty dickish. I really do like these though
by Patrick John McGreevy on Sep 29, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Neil Manich on Sep 29, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Read these and ignore the opinion pieces then
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Get rid of the ramp!
by ihateemo on Sep 29, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where can I get that magazine??
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thanks for your help on this one KJ!
I might’ve been looking for a granby roll in there for weeks without your guidance.
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anyone else loving the mw division recently?
Dollaway, Gerald harris, Dave branch, mark Munoz, Tom Lawlor, Aaron Simpson, Miqual Falcao, Kyle Noke and Brian Stann all look like they could be solid up and comers and with Anderson, Chael, Vitor, Okami, Wandy, Leben, Bisping, Akiyama, Nate Marquardt, and Maia all legit upper echelon fighters it’s actually got some depth to it.
by mcpeepants23200 on Sep 29, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
A lot of those up and comers just look too flawed to ever really be looked at as dangerous. Dolloway showed real improvement here, but Stann and Lawlor haven’t really impressed me. Munoz has realy failed to develop. Then, a lot of the established upper tier fighters are really aging or a bit over rated. Anderson, Vitor, Chael, Nate, Maia, and Okami are definitely the cream of the cream, but the rest have some question marks. Bisping can’t show up in big fights. Wandy only has two wins in the Octagon. Akiyama has failed to set the UFC on fire. And Leben has been up and down his whole career. Belcher was the real spark in the MW division, and I hope he gets healthy again and fights some more.
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Stann was overhyped because he beat Doug Marshall
Lawlor, however, has impressed me. Maybe not in a “this guy is the next big thing”, but his fights are usually very entertaining and he has a lot of power in his hands.
The Simpson/Lawler fight had me on the edge of my seat and I think he was robbed in that one. But you know, judges, etc.
Get rid of the ramp!
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I love every one of these, and I always feel obligated to comment and let you know, but it takes me a few days to really parse through them and get to the gnitty gritty. So, I’m not really going to add any commentary, just wanted to say thanks.
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by Neil Manich on Sep 29, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Always great work!
Thanks for the bonus Sherk/Dunham chop. Let the speculation begin as to why Dunham didn’t drop his hips and try to Monson him!
Get rid of the ramp!
He might have felt that Sherk was too strong and had too much of a short, thick neck to make it worth the while. If Sherk escapes from that, it’s a scramble and Dunham has better options if he goes for the seatbelt and take the back.
If Sherk manages to free himself a bit, Dunham is behind him. If Dunham retains control, he can take the back and either improve his score or go for a choke.
I’m still kinda pissed that he tried the “BJ Penn vs. Kenny Florian” hook removal trick. Sherk was too fresh and savvy to be suckered into that. The hook that was removed let Sherk get the leg torque necessary to free himself from the RNC.
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Thanks, Andrew
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on Sep 29, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions
Can't wait to see you man!
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by Andrew Foster on Sep 29, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome chop.
The Arroyo vid was a great help too.
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by Well Read Idiot on Sep 29, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
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Judo Chop never ceases to amaze … I recommend this series to everyone at my academy. Absolutely some of the best combat sport analysis anywhere.
by burien top team on Sep 29, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
Great stuff, as always.
Between this, and the Mayhem video on how to run a Darce it makes me think that turning into a guy is a quick way to lights out :P
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with C.B's awesome wrestling combined with some of these
slick moves, he’ll be a contender in no time.
Good article.
This choke was the highlight of the ppv imo. Really glad that CB got a massive bonus for it.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 29, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
thanks
but keep in mind this fight was free on spike tv, wasn’t part of the ppv.
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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 29, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
True it was on Spike,
but I still consider those fights as part of the PPV myself. I expect that his next fight will be on the main card after that showing.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 29, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I love these
Bloody Elbow Judo Chops are always the highlight of my day. Nothing like mixing in some education with my daily MMA fix.
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