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I sat down and played the EA MMA demo for Xbox 360 for about an hour today. The demo comes with four playable characters - Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, Bobby Lashley, Jason "Mayhem" Miller, and Jake Shields, a Fight Now mode, and an "MMA 101" tutorial. My thoughts below.

The Good

  • The character models are excellent. The four playable characters (Overeem, Lashley, Miller, and Shields) and two non-playable characters ("Big" John McCarthy and Jimmy Lennon Jr.) look fantastic. All the faces are recognizable, the body types are correct, and the textures have a lot of detail. 
  • Basic striking with the right stick is fluid. I played a fair bit of the Fight Night series, so this wasn't completely jarring for me. Kicks are performed by using the left trigger as a modifier. Putting together combos felt natural. Everything felt intuitive, so while I by no means have mastered the striking system, I feel comfortable with it.

The Bad

  • Grappling still sucks. Another MMA game, another disappointing grappling engine. The grappling system is simple: press "A" to improve position, press "B" to prevent your opponent from improving, press "X" to attempt a submission, and press "Y" to try disengage. While THQ's series uses the right stick for positional advancement, grappling ends up as the same back-and-forth improve/deny position game in EA MMA as well. Never mind that this isn't an accurate representation of real-life grappling, it just feels clunky and disjointed. I'm beginning to worry that a fun, fluid, and simple grappling system is out of reach.
  • The tutorial is worthless. The in-game tutorial pits you as Jason Miller against Jake Shields in a Japanese ring. Every so often, notifications pop up telling you what you can do. A lot of the notifications popped up after I already figured out how to pull something off (whether on my own or looking it up under the "Controls" menu in the pause screen). You're better off just jumping in headfirst and figuring out the game on your own.
  • Special striking was not responsive. I kept trying to throw a flying knee with Alistair Overeem, which is accomplished, according to the menu, by pressing forward on the left stick and holding the left trigger while hitting up-diagonal forward on the right stick. Intuitively, to me, this means that I should be able to press and hold forward on the left stick and then perform the second part of the move. Instead, you have to flick forward on the left stick, which makes it very difficult to perform with any sort of consistency.

The Ugly

  • Movement looks unnatural. Fighters move their legs while they move, but they don't feel like they're actually taking steps.
  • I'm not sure what to make of the submission system. There are actually two different systems. Chokes use something of a modified "Shine" system. Instead of twirling a stick in a circle (in this case, the left stick), you're trying to find the "sweet spot," which you identify by controller vibration. Arm and leg locks involve repetitive button pressing. I gather that you want to keep pace with the rhythm on screen. It's a better effort than the grappling system, though it still doesn't feel right. It's also difficult to judge without playing against another human being.

Overall, it was a fun little demo, but I'm not exactly rushing to find out the release date. I predominantly fought as Overeem against Lashley and the fights ended up taking a familiar path: Lashley dives for a takedown, Overeem sprawls, strike from the front headlock position, Lashley tries to escape, I block, rinse, repeat. Sometimes I would transition to the back, put my hooks in, and work from there. Sometimes, rarely, Lashley would escape. Striking on the feet became worthless because it became apparent that I could just sit back and wait to counter Lashley's shot.

That said, it seems like a good, ambitious first effort. I'm not sure how committed EA is to the game or the series, but it's a nice little foundation to start on in any case.

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So overall, how does it compare to Undisputed? You keep comparing specific parts but never say how the overall experience compares to that of the latest Undisputed demo. If you had to bring one of the two demos to a deserted island, which one would you pick?

by Disco1Stu on Sep 28, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

EA

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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 28, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t like Undisputed either. I’m not sure if one is better than the other.

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or significantly better, anyway.

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spot-on review.

I’m frustrated and disappointed that neither MMA game this year is worthy buying. EA’s grappling system is too simplistic and unsatisfying. The punches don’t feel like they land with any force. The game in general doesn’t nail the feel of MMA at all.

by Gitaroo_Dude on Sep 28, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

I agree with everything you said. I would like to add that I have yet to knock anyone out on their feet, and submissions are way easy to get. I think the total control system works better for boxing and does not translate well for MMA, especially on the ground and in the clinch. – The walk outs add nothing to the game and the ring girl in the center of the cage between rounds is weird.
I was looking forward to this game but there seems to be more wrong than right – It really feels that EA was cashing in on MMA. I am interested in the Career mode and online fight cards. But I will wait to buy.

by a kick in the punch on Sep 28, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It's very hard to implent if you think about it.

The big thing is what method do you use? The Shine? Button Mash?

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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 28, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

no idea

and no suggestions really. just know what i dont like. wish i had some suggestions, but personally, i’m clueless

by Body Triangle on Sep 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only "controller" that'd be reflective of RL grappling would be something like the Kinect

But then we’d all be screwed the moment you see that the game’s Find Match function paired you up with one “DemianMaia” with a good ping next to his name. :)

At least it wouldn’t be Naked Kombat: The Video Game…

by Chortles on Sep 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grappling with a DamianMaia wouldnt be so scary. But if there was someone uncomfortable to play with it would be ‘JonFitch’

by IRodC on Sep 28, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because it'd just be awkward to the point of self-defating trying simulate being held down for 15-25? :)

 Whereas at least with “DemianMaia” you could at least take a swing at his noggin and hope he’s judging the in-game distances wrong on his wannabe LHK. :P

by Chortles on Sep 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm

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by Geno Mrosko on Sep 28, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

No you didn't

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by donkeypunch on Sep 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gianna Michaels has a face like a Louisiana swamp rat

She looks inbred

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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 29, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

id prefer them to keep commentary out of it

fuck gus johnson

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by milk72 on Sep 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

IT’S A DEMO.

Game Developer ProTip #47: Don’t release a shitty demo.

by HarmlessNinja on Sep 29, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Demos/beta's

Get released as unfinished products by
The developers feedback.

by Brandon Degaph on Sep 29, 2010 9:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Edit;

By the developers FOR feedback

by Brandon Degaph on Sep 29, 2010 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And are the first impression

Jab, jab, towards, short, fierce.

by asa on Sep 29, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got to be kidding....

this game was trash. I had an open mind. Not even Minowa could save this garbage.

MMA IS EVERYTHING!

by jmooby on Sep 29, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

For you to say grappling sucks especially makes me laugh. Of course it’s an advance/deny format, what else would it be? Spamming transitions with no regard? Give me a break. Horrible review. Next time get somebody that actually knows what they are talking about.

by Mr Pulla on Sep 28, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

1. About the takedown spamming – Shields and Lashley have the highest takedown attempt AI in the game. By far. Maybe not a good idea featuring them in the demo, but that’s why the constant takedowns. He also said they will tune it.

I have no problem with Lashley shooting early and often. That’s not my issue. I didn’t like that I could just stall from the front headlock or spin to back control and basically just keep him there as long as I wanted, even on the highest difficulty.

If you don’t like using the right analog (I do) you can switch to classic controls.

Did you read my review? Because I specifically discussed how I like the right-stick striking.

For you to say grappling sucks especially makes me laugh. Of course it’s an advance/deny format, what else would it be?

Something else? I’m not a game designer. I do grapple though, and this doesn’t feel anything like grappling. Nor is it very interesting. It’s quite possible MMA games will always suck because of this.

Give me a break. Horrible review. Next time get somebody that actually knows what they are talking about.

I’ll give you the chance to apologize before I ban you.

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA!! The last part is awesome.

I was gonna fake ban him but…..what the fuck does that even mean?

by Brandon Starr on Sep 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

while he came across douchy, I’ve got to agree. No offense but you don’t seem to know as much about games and game reviews in general to do a review. Judging from the footage though, most of your points are valid. I must disagree grappling wise though, as there is really no other system that would work, the only thing that can be done is tweaks to make it appear more realistic.

by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 28, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

**don’t seem to know enough

by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No offense but you don’t seem to know as much about games and game reviews in general to do a review.

and

Judging from the footage though, most of your points are valid.

These two statements don’t really mesh.

Listen, I’m a dude that plays games casually. This isn’t a video game reviewing site. I’m judging this game as an MMA fan first, video game player second.

I played the demo. It’s all right. I detailed my thoughts. If you want a comprehensive review, check out a video game site when they’re available.

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh touchy. and yeah, I might have worded it wrong. What I meant is, while none of your points are really disagreeable, I don’t think you touched on enough points or really went over legitimate ways that the issues you have with the game can be improved. But, you are correct. This is an mma site so I guess it’s not that big a deal.

by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 28, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love when people insult someone, that person defends themselves, and the insulter calls them “touchy.”

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think he meant touche, not touchy

Ahahahahaha

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by S.C. Michaelson on Sep 29, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could have made his point without being an asshole.

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by Worldisart on Sep 28, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if we all did that….the internets would die.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don’t seem to know as much about games and game reviews in general to do a review

Well, I like to think that I do. In fact, I’ve played video games competitively, and have written pieces about them academically. In my opinion, the game is poor, and Fagan’s analysis almost isn’t critical enough.

However, it is important to remember that EA often put out demos which are a weak representation of what the game will actually amount to.

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by Drunken cutman on Sep 29, 2010 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But due to size restrictions a lot of things were left out from the demo.
Remember, it’s a demo with a size restriction from an earlier build.
this build is from JULY and due to size constraints they had to strip it down immensely

I got your point the first time.

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by zakkree on Sep 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s more frail? Fagan physically or his over inflated ego?

by Mr Pulla on Sep 28, 2010 9:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dude just stop. He didn’t like the game. Who cares? Are you the lead designer or something? Disagree fine but it’s not the biggest deal in the world. And I should know, I freak out about everything.

by Josh Grant on Sep 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprisingly likely

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Sep 29, 2010 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

... and somehow physical frailness is a mark of moral weakness or being wrong?

facepalm Thanks to whoever posted the more refined version of the controls though. :)

I’ll give the demo a try, but hopefully a revised demo can be released; sometimes demos could be a good selling tool, but it seems that the developer doesn’t care to fix a “lesser than the finished product” demo that’ll discourage the customer, unless it’s gotten to the point like Medal of Honor where the PS3 beta was actually driving players AWAY.

I do share the pessimism though over the possibility that we won’t have controls for a while that can really replicate the… awesomeness that submission grappling can be. Well, unless this game has the 50/50 guard. :P

by Chortles on Sep 28, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well aren’t we mature?

by 775assassin on Sep 28, 2010 11:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

dont blame fagen for a lame game

by Riley_96 on Sep 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sad part is when you google EA MMA Review you get this as the main story

So Mike even though you are not a game designer your opinion does matter and weigh strongly on initial thoughts of this game. The weight is heavy on your shoulders lol

by Papercut Elbow on Sep 28, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Single handedly bringing down a game with a mildly disappointed review.

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take an honest mildly disappointed over a myriad of fawning “9 out of 10!” from paid-off gaming sites (AKA every review for Civ 5)

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best kind of video game review to "read" is

 Some guy who actually gave the game a chance before you did.

Agreed re: gaming site reviews… look at how bamboozled we ended up being by UFC 2010. Although GameInformer is interesting/intriguing, as they took a epic DUMP all over Metroid: Other M, and several months back an article was pretty blunt about both MW2’s multiplayer problems and Activision’s likely unwillingness to have Infinity Ward fix them unless there was money to be had up-front.

by Chortles on Sep 28, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

fawning "9 out of 10!" from paid-off gaming sites

Cough IGN Cough

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Sep 29, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You just don’t know your own strength
haha

by Papercut Elbow on Sep 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was alright.

I generally agree with Fagan’s points. It feels basically like UFC 2010 with different controls. There probably won’t be a good MMA for a couple years. Then again THQ seems to be addicted to the Shine and EA basically just uses a smaller version of the Shine. I dunno. Hope it works out. If not, the oh well. Something’s don’t belong in other formats. Maybe MMA and video games just don’t mix.

by Josh Grant on Sep 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

xbox live marketplace isn’t up now. FUUUUU

by philibuster968 on Sep 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re really not missing much.

by Josh Grant on Sep 28, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game of the Year according to Mr Pulla

by Mike Fagan on Sep 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

what an odd way for someone to go out

can we get a list of the top BE banhammer moments

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by milk72 on Sep 28, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

its sad this game is gonna bomb

UFC undisputed tanked with the whole zuffa promotional power behind it, this game has randy and a chubby bald russian on the cover and that dude who screams during the ncaa tourney is the commentator, what chance does it have

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by milk72 on Sep 28, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Undisputed 2010 didn’t tank. It still sold something like two million copies and was incredibly profitable.

It just didn’t meet the inflated expectations of THQ based on last year’s sales. They mistakenly assumed that they would be able to sell three million copies every year and the market just isn’t willing to support that kind of volume. They have pretty much acknowledged their mistake by announcing that they will not be releasing another new Undisputed title until 2012.

by Steve4192 on Sep 28, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

With regards to its value and demand

I barely see anyone wanting the game now, though that’s not surprising considering the impending “holiday season lineup.” The game’s pretty much worth little at GameStop now, I think it’s like around $10 store credit/$8 cash, and at most $40 new, $30 used.

I might hold onto it IF THQ is going to keep supporting the game, i.e. fixing the online for PSN (read: less lag, but I want STABILITY and being able to get a match with anyone!), maybe bring back that Outside Leg Trip after nerfing it. If they’re going to abandon it the way Infinity Ward/Activision’s abandoned Modern Warfare 2 though, I’ll just trade this in towards Black Ops or Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood.

by Chortles on Sep 28, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s definitely on another level compared to UFC 2010/9.

by ontite on Sep 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

But that “other level” is just a price bracket $20 above UFC 2010.

I’m not buying either but EA is gonna tank very hard.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you even play it? It’s so much better then ufc 2010.

Every MMA game will do shitty simply because mixed martial arts isn’t mainstream enough.

by ontite on Sep 28, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares how it plays.

Come Christmas it will still be $50+ and UFC will be around $30. Cheaper, more recognizable cover star. They’ll probably release a DLC pack around the time EA comes out.

Its like how the PS2 still outsold every new gaming system the first christmas they came out.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care. How much money the game makes doesn’t effect me. I’m gonna enjoy a better MMA game, and any logical mma fan will choose this over UFC.

by ontite on Sep 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any logical MMA fan will be spending the $ on UFC 121 instead.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we talking about MMA fans with a limited amount of money? If yes, then yeah, i agree.

by ontite on Sep 29, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the internet.

We are all rich and get mad bitches. And have black belts.

by Brandon Starr on Sep 29, 2010 2:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I could buy the game and order UFC 121 too… but I’m probably just going to watch it on a shitty stream :D

by ontite on Sep 29, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I played it for awhile after my classes. It was alright. Not that much better than Undisputed.

by Josh Grant on Sep 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares how it plays.

Come Christmas it will still be $50+ and UFC will be around $30. Cheaper, more recognizable cover star. They’ll probably release a DLC pack around the time EA comes out.

Its like how the PS2 still outsold every new gaming system the first christmas they came out.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

do you think it was any more effective the second time you wrote it

with all that cut n paste you’d think you’re tryin to get a job at bloodyelbow

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by Johnathan Willis on Sep 28, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It crashed when I posted it and when I reloaded it posted at the bottom. So sue me.

But I’m glad the forum police were here to badger me. Best get back on your routes… somewhere theres a tool posting “FIRST!” who must be mocked.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here's a tip about posting about Bloody Elbow: Learn to take a freaking joke.

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by RobertGBP on Sep 28, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh…jokes are funny.

The guy correcting grammar and whatnot is annoying.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Sep 28, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a final solution awaiting you.

Grammar Nazi ahoy!

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by timetraveltome on Sep 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ threatening to ban someone who disagrees with you. Get over yourself.

by JimmersonzGlove on Sep 29, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s too bad. You had such a cool username.

by Mike Fagan on Sep 29, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The worst part was neither scrolling to the end of your review

You know, the part where you said:

That said, it seems like a good, ambitious first effort. I’m not sure how committed EA is to the game or the series, but it’s a nice little foundation to start on in any case.

by Chortles on Sep 29, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I, for one, thought the grappling was horrid. And I understood how it worked. I enjoyed the UFC 09 grappling better than this (UFC 2010 just didn’t feel right to me, probably the auto-transition block). I couldn’t get much going on the feet but that was probably just because I was unfamiliar with the striking. The jury is still out on that aspect. With submissions, I liked that you can get one at any point in the fight, unlike in UFC were you have to beat up on them a whole lot before a submission is possible. I didn’t like the methods of getting the submission though. Seemed off.

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by ChiCubs23 on Sep 29, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Grappling in Undisputed looks like crap

The animations are so clearly stitched together with jerky transitions in Undisputed. EA used to be horrible with animations, but they cleaned up their act and now THQ is way worse.

I wish EA made the standup animations better, though.

by Mint on Sep 29, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind how it looks. It worked well. It was effective and clear and pretty easy to get used to. Although 2010 looks better, they messed with the major and minor transition directions which now make it confusing to grapple.

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by ChiCubs23 on Sep 29, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than undisputed

  Pros:
$ Career and Online should be awesome. And with fighter share, if u have played smack down or fightnight4, than u know there will be hundreds of free created fighters ranging from boxers to ufc champs to download.
$ Striking look and feals more real, move in and out smoother and I have always liked fight night’s stick striking.
$ Grappling has many more positions and is based more on timing instead of who can spin the stick faster.
$ Replays, and the camera is almost always moving instead of a tekken/street fighter-like side view.
 Only con:
I like the “shine” sweet spot subs but the button mashing ones I cant seem to get. Hopefully the full game will make them more achievable but that’s the only flaw I found.

I expect this game to sell good in japan, maybe even russia.

by DL2kold on Sep 29, 2010 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

...

Career and online are not prs, you havent used it

often dont see fighters clearing the cage in less than a second
grappling never was based on spinning the stick
replays- theres 3 -5 of them at one time all from different angles.

for subs, you dont mash the button, you get into a rhythm by keeping your stamina high

by Akatalinich on Sep 29, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I am just assuming career and online are better obviously since its not in the demo, but Undisputed’s online is garbage and career mode is ok, so this should be better.
Grappling in UFC isnt based on spinning the stick faster?? Obviously you cant be empty on stamina, but its all about how fast you spin it on subs and takedowns.
And I dont think the replays were in the demo either, but I know you can make highlights of your fights using REPLAYS.
U cant judge the demo playing against the CPU in my opinion. Playing with a friend really demonstrates the striking and grappling better. I did finally get those button subs down.

by DL2kold on Sep 29, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m definitely buying this game.

by Stroma on Sep 29, 2010 2:27 AM EDT reply actions  

have'nt read..

..all of the comments (shame on me) but is it out on PSN yet?

by the guy with the big nose on Sep 29, 2010 3:29 AM EDT reply actions  

grappling was better

but overall this vs. ufcu is a wash, they’re both equally mediocre imo. the community modes look like they will be good, however.

by Revolver on Sep 29, 2010 6:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I had fun with it

Overall I like their control set up over Undisputed, but as far as grappling goes I think a better system might be to have it be a hybrid of the Shine and Advance/Deny system, push a button to start advancing and if they time their denial right (and stats are close enough to warrant a struggle) you’ve got that crazy sweet spot thing they have for chokes going on with QTE button press prompts coming up.

I was gonna bitch about Bobby Lashley being way over inflated with his stats but if the fighters can’t be competitive at all there’s no point in them being in the game and every fight would be Overeem vs Fedor. Like how every game of NCAA is me against someone playing Alabama or Ohio St.

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by menckenstein on Sep 29, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Lashley look terrible

his model was a heaping pile of ugly muscles. His shoulders were way too big. Ugly Ugly model.

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by jmooby on Sep 29, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

That's jsut the way he looks in real life.

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by RobertGBP on Sep 29, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am looking forward to being able to download fighters, I loved that feature in FNR4.

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by RobertGBP on Sep 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Man this demo is crap

It sucks and blows simultaneously, other than that it’s not very impressive.
The controls are shitty, I believe the graphics looked terrible & the feel of it can’t be accurately complained about to someone until they’ve experienced it themselves.
The entrances were pretty bad & seemed really quite pointless. Good waste of pixels or polygons or whatever magic video games are built from these days. Also it is so bad that you feel like you’re doing no damage at all, very important for a fighting game to capture that..

Be like water..

by theredoctober on Sep 29, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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