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Professor of Sanshou Open To MMA in China

This quote is taken from an article on Kung Fu Tai Chi magazine's website. The original article was published in 2009. They interviewed Professor Zhu Ruiqi, the Deputy Director of the Board of Referees for the Chinese Wushu Association. I thought this would be relevant because of the UFC's desire to establish itself in China. The rest of the article is a good read because he talks about the problems Sanshou and Wushu have in China, which illustrates the uphill battle Zuffa faces. He's open to bringing in MMA, but one thing he talks about that is relevant for American fighters, is the poor health and medical coverage for fighters, which could become a hindrance for getting more people to compete. 

http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=826

 

GO: So what do you think of MMA in China?

ZR: I think transferring the techniques from sanshou fighters to MMA is not the problem. Chinese fighters are already competing in Thai boxing, kick boxing and K1 competitions. K1 uses strikes and kicks mostly, but no throws. Sanshou uses kicks, strikes and throws, which are the first three techniques of Chinese grappling (shuai jiao) without the 4th technique, qinna (joint locks qin). MMA uses kicks and strikes when standing. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is equivalent to qinna on the ground. The results of our Muay Thai contest prove that our kicks are not inferior to Muay Thai. So I think the transfer will not be a problem. A successful game is not determined by the type of fights; rather it is determined by its economy and efficiency. This is established by the vision of upper management, its direction and ability. If the powers that be have the guts not to be afraid of doing wrong, if they have the mentality that this is the last resource it has going for it, it will succeed.

MMA still lacks general acceptance in China. MMA uses thinner gloves and more aggressive techniques and rules, which results in larger impact and injuries. Most Chinese audiences aren't too fond of blood sports. Chinese medical insurance is not so good either, so fighters are afraid of getting hurt. The Chinese purses are not big enough to attract more fighters. Therefore, both the management and general public are not backing MMA 100%. From 1979 to 1988 was the sanshou testing period. From 1989 to 2008 was the development period. After almost 30 years, commercial sanshou is still not completely developed.

General audiences like two kind of games. One is "beautiful" such as beach volleyball - players with healthy body, beautiful skin and so on. All these games are easy on the eyes. The other one is "exciting" - watching people get hurt and getting hurt yourself are very different. People won't mind to watch other people get hurt, but won't necessary join the sport. The reward just isn't high enough. But MMA can offer the excitement that any audience likes. A high level MMA game will still have the market in China, but it will be like a small group playing and a large group watching. I think MMA will need some time to get accepted. Its health benefit still needs to be proven.

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Interesting article

Thanks for posting.

I trained with Steven Seagal.

by B.H. Farnsworth on Sep 24, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks..

I came across this article by accident. I subscribe to Kungfu Taichi, but I don’t remember this story. After reading it, it makes me wonder if Zuffa might be going in the wrong direction.

by Akorn on Sep 24, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

good stuff

thanks!

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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 24, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

No problem...

I feel Zuffa should focus on getting MMA accepted in America first. But that’s just me.

by Akorn on Sep 24, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel

it is already accepted in America.

Facts don't come with points of view.

by Robert Livingston on Sep 24, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

But I mean more on the lines of sport and not novelty. I still feel some outside of the hardcore community still see MMA as a gimmick. I know it’s still a young sport and that will improve with time, but the energy used to enter a new market could be better served solidifying your home country. China is going to be hard. At the very least, they should’ve went to the Philippines or South Korea. They would accept UFC quicker and would potentially have access to more fighters.

I know they are smaller markets, but Zuffa would have a better chance of establishing themselves there to get a feel for the Asian market. I know they aren’t the same as China, but at least they could show these fights on Chinese television, building Chinese fighters along with Korean and Filipinos.

by Akorn on Sep 25, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

theyve

got enough energy to go around.

either way, i’m no businessman; I’d trust their judgment. Needless to say, they’ve come a long way in America and if MMA were as accepted in China, or any other country for that matter, as it was in America, we would be debating something trivial, like whether or not some people considered it a gimmick. Bottom line is, doesn’t matter.

Fights taking place in Korea or the Phillipines would be just as interesting to Chinese and would have as much chance of airing on Chinese TV—which is provincially divided, btw—as fights taking place in any other country. Them taking place in Asia doesn’t carry an added appeal.

China’s is now the second biggest economy in the world. From what I can gather, the UFC is looking solely at countries with moolah, so Philippines is unlikey.

They want China, and getting it > convincing some people outside of the hardcore community MMA isn’t a gimmick.

Facts don't come with points of view.

by Robert Livingston on Sep 25, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice find

Again we find someone involved with combat sports in China saying the same two things: 1) San Da translates well into MMA, and 2) MMA does have a future in China, but it will be an uphill battle.

Facts don't come with points of view.

by Robert Livingston on Sep 24, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Most Chinese audiences aren’t too fond of blood sports. Chinese medical insurance is not so good either, so fighters are afraid of getting hurt. The Chinese purses are not big enough to attract more fighters.

by DirtyML on Sep 25, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Ugh meant to quote this above section I’m replying to.

But, it would not be out of the realm of possibility for the UFC to pay for medical insurance for Chinese fighters, sure it would be a huge slap in the face for the American fighters, but they will never find out about it!

by DirtyML on Sep 25, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, if you’ve ever studied kung fu in china you know that teachers there love to brag about how their style is the best and every martial art comes from kung fu… so it doesn’t surprise me that he’d say that qin na is similar to brazilian jiujitsu.

But obviously they have very little in common, qin na is actually much closer to japanese jiujitsu or aikido techniques.

by koroshiya on Sep 25, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what Jackie Chan thinks of MMA?

by Bandaka on Sep 26, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

he

has stated he feels it’s too violent and is not a fan.

Facts don't come with points of view.

by Robert Livingston on Sep 26, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn. We could have really used his support.

by Bandaka on Sep 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know, who would you pit him up against? He seems like he is 160 lbs of pure muscle and is 5’8" inches tall.

by Bandaka on Sep 26, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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