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Frank Mir Against Banning Steroid Users

Frank Mir talks to Lavar Arrington and Chad Dukes on 106.7 The Fan. He talks about potentially banning steroid users and the strictness in testing policies.

He also offers a pick for Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez.

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Plus, who really wants to hear Frank Mir talk for five minutes?

"The common denominator of the Universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder."

"Opinionated weather forecasters telling me it's going to be a miserable day. Miserable to who? I quite like a bit of drizzle, so stick to the facts!"

"Shoot him again... his soul is still dancing!"

by Ephemeral Artery on Sep 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually

he wasn’t a douchebag at all during this

surprised the hell out of me

Next victim: Cain Velasquez

by HitokiriX on Sep 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mir picks Brock by having better wrestling.

by Nick Thomas on Sep 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Drink to remember, drink to forget.

by doonerthesooner on Sep 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks as well

…no flash at work either.

"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield

"A good word that I got from the Mike Tyson Documentary... I'm going to absolutley decimate this motherf**ker, I haven't been in the dictionary to see what it actually means but I'm guessing it's going to be something in the way of just killing a motherf**ker." -Paul Daley (on the definition of Decimate)

by WeaponElDeem on Sep 23, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

well he also beat the shit out of him, twice

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Sep 23, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I’m on a iPhone at work so I was wondering also. I Also wanted to know who to bet on cause Mirs word is Money in the bank/

by Bloodsport on Sep 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The “well, Brock was a nationional champion and Cain wasn’t, so Brock HAS to be a better wrestler” is the most simplistic argument ever. It not only overlooks the technical aspects of each man’s wrestling games, it overlooks that Cain Velasquez wasn’t national champion because he wrestled in the era of Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco, two of the best heavyweight collegiate wrestlers of the last 50 years. Guess what? Brock Lesnar wouldn’t have been national champion if he had to wrestle against those guys either.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

by Brian Mayes on Sep 23, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saying Brock Lesnar wouldn’t have been national champion if he had to wrestle against those guys either is the most simplistic argument ever.
Brock’s own coach said that Brock wasn’t technical in college. He won on strength and speed. So what’s your breakdown of why Cole and Mocco would have rolled Lesnar?

If you want to hear my opinion on Les Miles go to BJPenn.com.

by DayGeaux on Sep 23, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please don't say shit to people on forums

that you wouldn’t say to them in real life.

/banning myself from this site

by GutenDirk on Sep 23, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I stopped telling people not to be lazy in real life I'd be out of a job.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 23, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we have very different definitions of lazy.

by Erasedhead on Sep 23, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mir packing a parachute here?

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."

by menckenstein on Sep 23, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't want to say it, since I'm a Mir fan...

but I agree with you here.

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin

by Snatchl on Sep 23, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

title is somewhat misleading

come on guys, that’s not really what Mir said. I don’t really like the guy and he sure is good at shoving his foot in his own mouth, but here what he said was more along the lines of “it depends,” rather than an outright “no we shouldn’t ban steroid users.”

by sunzlight on Sep 23, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I expect better from BE

I am with Sunzlight. That’s a misleading title.

by AngryTwinkie on Sep 23, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Expect better than what?

The question is, should the UFC have a zero tolerance policy towards steroids. “it depends” means “there shouldn’t be a zero tolerance policy.”

by Phildo on Sep 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

It depends means exactly that it depends. It means maybe this maybe that.

by Bloodsport on Sep 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It depends, and zero tolerance are complete opposites.

by Phildo on Sep 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends...

…is precisely the opposite of outright bans. Sorry, no controversy here.

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by Luke Thomas on Sep 23, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree if it said 'outright bans' in the title

but Mir mentioned that it would be ok to get rid of people in certain cases depending on the situation, which would constitute a ban. Not an outright ban, but still a ban.

Of course, we’re arguing semantics.

by verloc on Sep 23, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

The headline says “Frank Mir Against Banning Steroid Users”.

It doesn’t say “Frank Mir Against Banning ALL Steroid Users.” That would be accurate.

Since he actually said he’d be okay with banning SOME steroid users, the headline is misleading.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
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by jemaleddin on Sep 23, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shocking that

a man who went from 250 to 265+ in 3 month while maintaining a the same bodyfat % is against a lifetime ban for steroid users!

by TheChairman on Sep 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Obviously I’m being fallacious here, but I think this interview does show a little bit about where Mir’s head is at.

This is a man who was absolutely obsessed with size for the last year or so. He was attributing a lot of his shortcomings as a fighter solely to his weight and strength—both functions of size. To that end, you would expect that Mir would be 100% against anything that would possibly increase the size of his opponents and create a larger gap between him and them (for example, Shane Carwin being a 300 pound monster earlier in his career). But, obviously, he isn’t. Now is that because he isn’t against using steroids to try to make up for some of the size gap, or is it because he has a more forgiving view against others who use steroids to increase the very thing that make them bigger and stronger than he is?

by TheChairman on Sep 23, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gross and his zero tolerance policy are full of shit. How can he write this column this week and remain silent when Strikeforce signs barnett?

People need to stop holding the UFC to a higher standard than the other more established sports leagues..

by Phildo on Sep 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

True

But a way a journo looks at it is UFC is bigger pulls in more money and fans there for it requires more attention from the media. It’s not that it is held at a different standard it just requires more attention. Majority of fans know UFC there for it is a more important outlet to blog/report on because it carries more interest then that of a lesser promotion.

by Bloodsport on Sep 23, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understand why Jim rome doesn’t care about Josh Barnett. But Josh Gross had time to write about Antonio McKee, Shark Fights, and how the athletic commissions can’t regulate stuff on Indian Casinos (Shine fights) for SI, in the last month. Barnett is a bigger story than all of those.

by Phildo on Sep 23, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smashing Skulls?

Mir’s talking about Barnett, right?

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin

by Snatchl on Sep 23, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

bullshit headline

he says it should be a case by case thing.

He also said it could be cough medicine that got Sonnen failing the drug test, so he’s clearly packing a parachute here.

..!..

by nostraboris on Sep 23, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Mir saying

that most heavyweights cant fight from behind and get frustrated when things dont go their way is very ironic of him to say

by omegared07 on Sep 23, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think so at all

Mir is a cerebral fighter and very aware of his shortcomings. What he says when he’s hyping a fight doesn’t necessarily mean he’s not self aware. Look at the Brilz/Nog Judo Chop on the front page where he’s talking about how Brock beat him by trapping his legs and the mistakes he made thinking it was a strength deficit and not a technique issue.

Of course, when Mir loses it’s always been in the first round (with the exception of Brock II which was the second round), so take that for what it’s worth.

Get rid of the ramp!

by ihateemo on Sep 23, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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